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Friday morning Rangers things

Two big walk-off wins, and a sweep of the hated M's.  And now we have a pretty big series with Anaheim this weekend.  The Rangers really need to take two of three if they want to show folks they are serious contenders in the A.L. West this year.

Jeff Wilson emphasizes that the Rangers were able to get a walk-off win because of the great work Matt Harrison did, in pitching his second straight complete game.  Harrison has now allowed just 2 runs in his last 30 innings, dropping his ERA to 4.23 on the season and his FIP to 4.32.

Jeff Miller examines Harrison's start, and also discusses the book that Harrison's in-laws gave him right before the Baltimore start, that he says has helped him with the mental aspects of the game.

Evan Grant talks about Chris Davis's walkoff homer being the latest sign that he's coming around after a bad start to the season.  Davis is hitting .239/.299/.521 on the season now, with a .260 EQA.

Anthony Andro notes that, since Michael Young's walk-off homer against the Royals on April 19, the Rangers are 16-7.  That win broke a 1-7 skid that had the Rangers in danger of falling out of contention early on once again.

Jeff Wilson has a story up on Neftali Feliz, who appears to have no lingering issues after missing a start with some shoulder soreness.  It includes quotes from Derek Holland about how "effortless" Feliz throws, and Jon Daniels on the adjustments that Feliz has to make in moving to AAA.

M's beat writer Seattle Times national baseball writer Larry Stone is impressed with the Rangers.

Jeff Sullivan has a pitch f/x screencap up for the Davis 9th inning AB, and it shows that Brandon Morrow went with four straight high fastballs.  I'll wager that Rick Adair -- who was with the Rangers when Davis was coming up through the minors -- told Morrow when he went to the mound before that fateful AB that Davis was a low ball hitter, and to work him up and either make him chase high fastballs or else walk him and deal with the righthanded Andruw Jones and Elvis Andrus.  Morrow, I think, got the 4th pitch down farther than he wanted.

 

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Good times

i was able to watch Frisco beat Corpus on FSN last night. Go Rangers. Beat the halos

by BEW on May 15, 2009 7:41 AM CDT reply actions  

During the offseason we speculated that good defense

might shave about 1/4 of a run of the team ERA. According to Durret’s DMN blog entry this morning the team’s ERA is .47 lower right now than this point in 2008. We are all believers in team defense right now. Run prevention is an easier way to improve you pythag win total than run scoring.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 7:50 AM CDT reply actions  

If a team already has a a good offense.

I don’t think the A’s would improve much by investing in run prevention.

Phillies, Brewers, and Rangers are all evidence that a team with a good offense can get to another level just by adding good defenders.

I can’t wait for the day a contender trades for a glove to shore up their defense for the stretch run.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Texas did it in 1999

Boston did it one of those years early this decade, maybe 2003?

by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Boston 2004

That’s the year that they had the defensive and offensive lineups. Late in the game, they would switch out most of the IF for the guys who didn’t hit, but played good defense. I always found that fascinating.

by FuturePants on May 15, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

So, the Rangers were just ahead of their time.

I can’t remember who they picked up in 1999. Maybe you mean Goodwin in 1997?

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Clayton...

I know he came in and became our starting SS, but wasn’t he more of a throw-in with Stottlemyre, than a target? Who was the SS before Royce got here? Elster?

by Topgun22 on May 15, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Elster

Clayton was a significant piece of the deal. He wasn’t the #1 piece — Stottlemyre was — but Clayton was more than just a throw-in.

by Adam J. Morris on May 15, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

and Fernando Tatis is still hangin around the majors

i always kinda liked him

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

ah. I was confused because that was 1998.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right, sorry about that.

by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, not just if a team already has a good offense.

For every additional run you allow, you must score 1.15 runs to increase your pythag win total. No matter where you are in the offensive rankings, improving run prevention from that point pays more dividends than adding more offense. Now, of course, if you already have the best pitching and defense but a poor offense it’s easier to find room for improvement, and easier to find players that will be an improvement over what you have. I was speaking on a level of mathematical principle, but there are very few teams that would have no room for improvement on some aspect of run prevention.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wilson had this amazing tidbit

about Andrus’ magical play behind second on Wed night:

“Andrus actually extended his glove off his hand a little to make the play…”

Not just an athlete but also a technical virtuoso who must be spending all of his spare time working with Omar…

by Goyogringo on May 15, 2009 7:56 AM CDT reply actions  

I didn't buy the

“Omar Vizquel is on the roster to mentor Elvis” idea that was floated out there in spring training, but it looks to be the truth. I’ve lost count how many times I have seen Elvis and Omar talking in the dugout during a broadcast.

In the past I haven’t liked the idea of wasting roster spots on “mentors” that don’t offer much on the field, but this seems to be working.

Is Eddie G.’s mentoring in the bullpen equally valuable?

by ncrangerfan on May 15, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vizquel

I remember an interview he did with BaD radio in spring training and they asked him about the role he has. the guy basically said he came here to be a mentor and teacher to andrus and other guys, and that he doesnt mind because the game has given him so much time to give back some yadda yadda and he wants to be a coach.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 15, 2009 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Should the Rangers consider extending Vizquel?

It sounds so funny to say, but the fit is so good here.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

That answer...

…is to the question of whether he should be extended.

by Adam J. Morris on May 15, 2009 8:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

It doesn't seem like a serious thought to consider.

But, I’d be willing to keep it in mind as the year progresses in the category of ‘outside of the box’ thinking.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really don't have a huge problem

with him being UI on a year to year basis until he retires.

Considering our UIs of years passed (Desi Relaford, Marshall Mcdougall, Manny Alexander, Donnie Sadler, etc), I certainly think there are worse options.

If he’s cheap, doesn’t squawk about limited playing time, doesn’t mind one year contracts, and still can field, why not talk to him about next year in the offseason?

I certainly don’t think its worth discussing until the offseason though.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or we could move Vizquel into a full-time coaching role next year.

Bring up Lemon or Vallejo to act as UI and let Vizquel coach full time. He’s going to get a coaching role somewhere, so it might as well be here.

by cstorm15 on May 15, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Are Lemon and Vallejo

better used as trade chips or UI?

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is obviously

trade chips.

With Kinsler and Andrus in the MIF for the next several years, those guys just wouldn’t have a huge impact on this team. And if some team looks at Lemon/Vallejo as potential starters, then you could expect them to have significant trade value.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on May 15, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Concur

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

I definitely agree.

A UI is likely to get 60 Game appearances, and most of those won’t be full games.

If you can use them to trade for a need, it seems a better way to go.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not expecting much of a trade return for those two

As a piece of a larger deal? Sure. But then again, we have Lemon and Vallejo, so trading one would still leave the other as a UI (assuming both reach major league potential).

by cstorm15 on May 15, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

One thing

I wouldn’t really suggest that either is going to develop big time value either, but when you look around baseball you notice how few good, true, relatively MLB-ready middle infielders there are. Texas happens to have a glut of second tier ones, and I don’t think that anyone has offered a whole lot for any of them yet, but it is very uncommon to have two quality starters and then four guys like Duran, Arias, Vallejo and Lemon at the top two levels, even though I know that none of those guys blow most people away.

They also have very little behind them, which is more like what some organizations look like.

by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because he's flashy and seems more toolsy

I tend to think that Vallejo makes sense as a trade chip. With guys like Bonifacio being popular for some teams, it seems like he could develop some value if he’d start hitting with a little more authority again.

I’ve love to have Lemon be our (2006-07 version of) Maicer Izturis.

by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

With Vallejo (and Lemon) in line for the utility INF job in the near future

And Arias and Duran still hanging around, the answer to that would be no.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 15, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Omar is hardly a "mentor"-only guy

It may not last, but his bat has been better than expected. Though he plays sparingly, I’ve seen enough to recognize that he’s a better SS even today than MY was last year. He wasn’t bad at third either.

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 8:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Vizquel

is the best of both worlds. Came in as a mentor and is performing well. I know chemistry may be overrated but between him and Byrd the clubhouse leaders for a nice run are in place.

by Michael Cave on May 15, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

totally agree

I guess I was thinking in ST that the UI spot should go to a guy like Arias instead of a “mentor”. Vizquel has worked out way better than I expected.

by ncrangerfan on May 15, 2009 9:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

and in spring

I wasn’t expecting the aging Vizquel to perform so well with the bat. He’s deffinatly not turned out to be the “aging mentor that doesn’t produce.”…..that’s more like what Eddie G. has looked like

by ncrangerfan on May 15, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Duh,

he’s hitting in RBiA!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 15, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

It is a launching pad. It really helps those singles carry.

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

he just doesnt seem as old and used up as a 42 year old guy should be

he’s still a bad, bad, bad man

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

OT. Report: Manny's test clean for hCG

(synthetic testosterone level four times the amount of the average male.)
link

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on May 15, 2009 8:06 AM CDT reply actions  

"Synthetic testosterone level four times the amount of the average male."

I just had a vision of Manny appearing in the tub in those stupid Cialis commercials. Disturbing.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 15, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quick glance

Thought it said “average mule.”

by cmkelly29 on May 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Damn two walkoff wins in a row

Now I pick tonights game to go to.

Karma is not in my favor.

by SaltyGoesYard on May 15, 2009 8:25 AM CDT reply actions  

Harrison's inlaws helped him with his pitching?

Holy shit! Maybe they should be catching his starts!

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 15, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions   2 recs

rec

and lord knows if a key hitting situation comes up an important game where “his familiy” is batting, we should not even consider PHing for them b/c even if we have better hitters for that moment, Matty will totally unravel in the one inning “his family” isnt catching for him…

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Don't rec that!

He’s just bitter that Salty isn’t getting credit for Matt’s turnaround…

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Extra Innings

I’m sure they catch every moment of his starts.

by mgb5 on May 15, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Quick question...I'm still learning

What exactly is “FIP”?

Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.

by Brandon Worley on May 15, 2009 8:39 AM CDT reply actions  

THT Glossary

LINK

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks!

Defending Big D: A Dallas Stars blog on SBN: easy to use, free to join.

by Brandon Worley on May 15, 2009 8:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just another one of those numbers

for those of us who don’t watch the game at all, just look at spreadsheets. While we try to ruin it for everyone else, that is.

(/sarcasm)

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on May 15, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Actually,

I don’t see the sarcasm in your post.

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

You think thats true?

If so, LOL.

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on May 15, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

+facepalm

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 15, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ha

No, I actually wrote /sarcasm at the end of my post, but I put it in html/carrot brackets, so it disappeared. I didn’t know it would do that. Now I look like a horse’s ass I guess, when I was just trying to be sarcastic.

test…
no parenthesis: /sarcasm
regular parenthesis: (/sarcasm)
html brackets:

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeppers... lesson learned.

If I want to be sarcastic, don’t use real formatting to end the html sarcasm.

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

+1

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on May 15, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Greened!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 15, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Quick correction, Adam.

Geoff Baker is actually the Mariners’ day-in, day-out beat writer (and a damned fine one at that, whatever his faults). Larry Stone is the Seattle Times’ national baseball writer and one of its columnists and bloggers (e.g. he just went and saw Strasburg’s no hitter in San Diego). Great write up otherwise, though.

by Decatur on May 15, 2009 8:43 AM CDT reply actions  

give CD some credit

How many times this year have we seen him swing and miss at the high FB? I think he is out of his slump.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

weds. he was way way behind the fastballs and it was really noticeable at the game, yesterday even w/ Queen Felix pitching, he wasnt way behind them

 i found it pretty interesting. no clue as to why though

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Key moments and records.

So, the Rangers are 16-7 since MY’s Royal walkoff. They’re also 17-10 since Wash first decided to use frankfrankkkk for multiple innings, and 0-4 leading up to it. They’re also 11-4 since Harry went ballistic, and were only 4-3 between MY’s walkoff and Harry’s blastoff. Which is more meaningful?

Lot’s of good things have happened. It’s been a stretch that is almost polar opposite of that horrid 9-game stretch against Detroit, Baltimore, and KC.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions  

Doesn't matter to me if it

is because of pitching, defense or sunspots, the Rangers have given up only 4.94 runs/gm.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions  

Sunspots cause global warming not run prevention.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 9:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

I thought cows

were the cause of global warming.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

cows and sunspots

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

cows with sunspots?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No Gore has sunspots.

That’s how he caused global warming.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Right after he invented...

…cold fusion… or the repeating rifle… or was it Morse code?

I have no objection to man walking on the moon.

by Chad Crudup on May 15, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Elizabeth Shue created cold fusion m'er f'er

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on May 15, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

I think of that every time “cold fusion” is mentioned

I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.

by Chaim Witz on May 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

i thought he caused global warming b/c no state has more power generated by coal than the great state of Tennessee

the state he was senator of for f’n ever, and his dad before that….

i hate hypocrites even liberal ones…

im liberal, but come the fuck on.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

the book

I’m glad it worked out but how weird is it that his in-laws gave him a book about the mental aspects of sports when he’s an MLB pitcher?

by ab03 on May 15, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions  

They just want to ensure their daughter is well provided for by their son-in-law.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Either that are a passive-aggressive slap at his manliness.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or maybe

just a thoughtful gift because he’s an athlete and they thought he might like it? Nah, couldn’t be.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

haha

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

but think about the context.

Lets assume (and this is no where near the truth) I was top of my class at Yale, a supreme court clerk, and working at the top law firm in the world. And I mentioned to my family that I was having trouble writing a brief. It would be as if my in laws then bought me “7 steps to being a good writer.”

I’m not doubting their heart was in the right place but its somewhat presumptuous

by ab03 on May 15, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

La Esquina Blog says Rangers are in on another latin catcher

LINK

[Jacob] Beltre is a muscle-bound 6-foot-3 catcher with considerable power. Several scouts said they were most impressed with Beltre’s attitude, which they describe as a joy for playing the game. Nova said at least seven teams are in serious contention for Beltre, including the Texas Rangers and the Pittsburgh Pirates, who he says are trying to bring Beltre to the United States for a workout.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions  

more Beltres, Pimentals, and Grullons

awesome! we may have a ML team with 50% of the players with those 3 surnames in a few years.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on May 15, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 15, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

The last 13 games

have been against the 3 teams with the worst team OPS in the AL. Now the Angels come into town with the 4th worst OPS. I’m enjoying it while it lasts, but the pitching isn’t nearly as good as the results would indicate

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on May 15, 2009 9:50 AM CDT reply actions  

Dude, what gives with the negative vibes?

They are pitching much better than last year…see fewer walks and deeper outings.

My gawd, the uber brittle and quite femme Brandon McCarthy even went into the 7th inning the other night!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 15, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm tempering my enthusiasm.

The Mariners lineup, in particular, is mainly just a bunch of weak hackers.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on May 15, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know its

a paradigm shift, but could it be that these teams have a low OPS partly due to their facing an improved Rangers pitching staff? Stat oriented fans tend to make low OPS a personal trait instead of the numerical representation of a result.

by mcgee48c on May 15, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

The games against the

Rangers didn’t help those teams’ offensive numbers, but those team’s have struggled to hit against almost everyone.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on May 15, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

right

and the Ranger pitching did exactly what they were suppose to do against those teams. Now if they had swept the M’s by winning 8-7 ball games, I would be concerned.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

That is what would have happened last year. The pitcing is better this year. These aren’t your daddies Rangers anymore.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who you callin' a daddy?

The rabbit lived, I swear!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 15, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Youngins won't get that.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right to a point

but one hitters and complete game shutouts are good pitching against any team at the ML level. It would be different if they had scuffled a bit and given up 3 or 4 runs with an uncomfortable number of walks and high pitch counts. They didn’t walk hitters, were efficient and downright good. Now, maybe they won’t be as good against teams with much better bats, but that doesn’t mean they haven’t done well lately. But good defense helps against any club.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

You're right.

I’m not trying to take anything away from what they’ve accomplished. It is important to recognize that they have had this successful run against poor offensive teams.

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on May 15, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah dude...

If even Josey can get on board with it…

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

is this some sort of reverse jinx?

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on May 15, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

AL SLG% Leaders,

1. Youkilis .719
2. Longoria .701
3. Adam Jones .669
4. V Martinez .650
5. Bay ,648
6. C Pena .631
7. Hunter .623
8. Damon .621
9. M Young .600
10. Miguel Cabrera .593

"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels

by Randy Richardson on May 15, 2009 10:07 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn...

just damn.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Ed Coffin

gets the credit.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Adam Jones

Man that Bedard trade is going to make things much easier on the Rangers over the next several years.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on May 15, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

From Halo Hell
SS – Elvis Andrus – the difference maker has made the Texas pitching staff better by getting to every ball hit in the stadium.

by texasraider on May 15, 2009 10:13 AM CDT reply actions  

I can't say I disagree.

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by RachelB on May 15, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nail on the head right there.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I'd say

the difference from MY to Andrus is pretty huge. Andrus looks like he has over double the effective range.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I got a good laugh from that.

And I needed it this A.M.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just a couple things...

I saw this morning here.

First off, if Delgado is done or at least going to miss most of this year would the Mets be interested in Blalock? Right now they are rolling with our old buddy Fernando Tatis at 1B. If so, what could the Rangers expect to get in return. I’m not very familiar with the Mets farm system.

Secondly, it seems the Yanks are really down on Hughes right now. Would it be possible to put together a package with Teagarden and another arm like say maybe Kiker to get Hughes form the Yanks? Or would they want Salty in any deal for him? I don’t think the Rangers should be willing to deal Salty for Hughes right now. He has impressed me that much so far this year. Thoughts?

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

I think you could get Blalock for Santana straight up.

Vallejo for Hughes sounds about right! :) Really I have no idea either.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just wonder

with the recent national mentions of the fleecing that JD did on the Braves in 07 if some teams might be a little relucant to trade with the Rangers right now. Maybe not. But maybe some teams might be a little afraid of a fan backlash

by BEW on May 15, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

I really doubt anybody is scared

of the Rangers. If anything they are intrigued by the possibility of trading with us because of our prospect depth.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

I betcha

fans on the South Side of Chicago, San Diego, Detroit and Washington are demanding that their GMs call Jonny Donuts, especially if Nolan isn’t in the office.

C’mon now!!!

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 15, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

I’m betting that the GM’s in Atlanta, Philadelphia, and Boston aren’t.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on May 15, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

JD's "haul" from Boston was overrated at the time by most in here (probably because Gagne was sooooo bad)

and with perspective, all that trade did was shuffle the deck.

Gabbard sucked.

Murphy is a 4th-5th OF and all you need to do is shake a tree and 10 more like him will fall out.

Beltre makes the minor league system lists look good but he’s iffy at best to do anything in The Show.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 15, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pretty much.

I doubt, though, that you could have really gotten much more for Gagne—a guy nobody really believed would be effective for much longer. So if all you could have squeezed out of a team was a shitty AAAA pitcher, a prototype 4th OF, and a boom-or-bust prospect, I think you have to call that a definite win.

Not a steal, but a win.

by brettgardner on May 15, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

there’s a difference between a steal and a deal. And we got a deal.

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by WhipSmart on May 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup yup

JD got probably the maximum return you could have expected from a guy who was going nowhere with us. Good deal, not a steal.

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

No and no

Tatis is outhitting Blalock by a solid margin this year and was his equal last season. If they’re going to make a trade there I think they’d look for more of a long term solution, younger, cheaper. There’s been talk of them moving Murphy over there, too.

The Yankees are not down on Hughes, impatient fans are. It might be possible to get Hughes if their catcher situation was desperate, but I wouldn’t count on them just offering up Hughes. I’m not sure what it would take to get him.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well...

the Yanks are talking about pulling him from the rotation so I think they’re a little down on him, perhaps not though. Also, I think they are pretty desperate at the catching spot too. They have had their top 2 catchers go down, and really Posada isn’t a ML catcher anymore even when he does come back. I would think they would be interested in a guy like TT.

As far as Tatis and the Mets go, I think if Hank is healthy he’s a pretty nice upgrade over Fernando. I know he’s been pretty good so far, but I just don’t think he will keep that up. Hank would be an upgrade for them especially in the power department.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Mets signed

Javier Valentin, he’ll probably play a little first. Blalock is definitely an upgrade over him.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

And who

replaces Blalock?

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by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Smoakin' in the Boys room buddy

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not this year.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Andruw...

’til August or September when Smaok looks like he may be ready.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

Why would you throw in a rookie like Smoak

to get his feet wet when the team might be in a pennant race?

That won’t fly in the room and Nolan sure as hell would know not to do it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 15, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

You mean like they did with Davis last year?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Or this year with Elvis

I know they weren’t in a pennant race to start the season but it looks like they will be this year as of now.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

So maybe if the team's in a pennant race you roll with Andruw instead.

After all, he’s hitting well now and he’s been through a pennant race or two (or 10).

If the Rangers fall out of contention as the summer wears on, you can bring up Smoak to get his feet wet in a non-playoff environment.

Or, maybe Smoak will be good enough that he can hit at any level, even if the MLB team is in a pennant race.

by Inkara1 on May 15, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You keep asking

and folks keep answering.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

But, no!

Blalock is the irreplaceable one!

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by inactive lsb user on May 15, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

And Josey is about

the only one with the right answer.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Josey is

the only one with the answer you want to hear.

I just hope we move him before he has his annual injury where he is out for the year. That should be approaching in the next month or so.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

So JD is suppose to

trade Blalock because of his injury history? How many of his injuries are considered chronic?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

blalocks amount is the go by

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

The answer you expect

is quite retarded.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 15, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

How so?

I am just tired of the “lets trade Blalock before he gets injured” talk. Those same people can’t come up with a resonable replacement. Andruw Jones? Really. The same AJ that had a .505 OPS last year and a .724 OPS in 2007? The same AJ that has a .685 OPS in May? Justin Smoak? Really. The same Justin Smoak that currently has a grand total of 172 professional ABs?

Some of you around here need to change your mindset. This is a team that looks to be in a pennant race come Aug 1. JD is not going to be trading off pieces to build for the future. Don’t expect Blalock, Byrd and Padilla to be going anywhere if the Rangers stay in contention.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 15, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Its hilarious to me

that somehow the oft injured Hank Blalock, that hasn’t had a good full season since 2004, is somehow irreplaceable, and that Andruw Jones, who clearly isn’t the same hitter he was last year or the year before, can’t possibly be an answer.

Blalock is due to strain his taint any day now, and I’m sure it will be a season ending injury.

Somehow, I think this team will survive the loss of a platoon DH if there is a big enough return for it.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Agreed

And I love Blalock.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blalock

Man, he can’t strain his taint this week- he has a photo shoot scheduled this weekend for next month’s Taint Magazine!

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on May 15, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Random prediction

Rangers win 4-3 tonight. Book it.

by cmkelly29 on May 15, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

Series Price

series wagering is semi-exotic i guess. as such is has a 30 cent line instead of the 20 cent line for football games or dime line for baseball games.

anyway…

LAA – 110
TEX – 120

angels = the slightest of favorites

BOS -160 to run SEA further into the ground
DET – 190 to beat OAK this weekend

by sam in so cal on May 15, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

oops

TEX = slightest of favorites

by sam in so cal on May 15, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Last 10 days:

The Rangers have thrown 284 pitches out of the bullpen; the Angels 819.

Woah…

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on May 15, 2009 12:20 PM CDT reply actions  

wow

that is a great stat!

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
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by WhipSmart on May 15, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

I cribbed it from EG.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 15, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

We need to get in to their pen quick

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Request from Adam

hey, was curious if on the morning AM news stuff you could throw up the leverage graph as well as the betting odds for the next game. I dont think many here throw money on games but i do think many here find those #‘s very interesting. just ask’n

please?

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions  

At least put a link

to the fangraph in the postgame writeup.

by bhudson on May 15, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

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