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T.R. Sullivan's Friday morning blogginess

T.R. Sullivan has his Friday morning blog post up, and it includes this rather encouraging item:

The Rangers apparently are in position to sign Guillermo Pimentel, a top outfield prospect from the Dominican Republic who is highly coveted. Could get $1.5 to $2 million but has apparently stopped working out for other teams because the Rangers have him locked up. Signings can't be announced until July.

That would be a very nice thing indeed...

 

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while yes, i am quite excited/happy about it

having this much info out there i think opens the rangers up to some sort of fine or backlash from the commish’s office — either that or after last year they decided to say “fuck it” and make early deals with their guys (well make them “official”)

looks like its going to be a good signing period!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:05 AM CDT reply actions  

So, are you saying JD learned a lesson from Beane from the Inao situation.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

im saying that maybe JD had fairly concrete info on Yona

and took it to the commish’s office, but they never did anything

therefore, they realized/inferred that there was slim to no chance that the commish’s office would come down hard on those actions and decided to pull a BB this year

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

I’m happy they got aggressive but wouldnt it be better if it was kept slightly more low key.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 15, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

no kidding

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 15, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Of course

But dealings around Pimentel could hardly be low key, if he’s getting the scrutiny I’d think he gets.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on May 15, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

well they may have agreed to a deal

but just not have signed it which is what the deadline is for. It’s the kids choice if he wants to stay away from other teams.

At least that’s what I’d tell someone if I was the Rangers and they asked about it.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 15, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

from my understanding

agreeing to a deal before the deadline is not the problem. In fact, that is to be expected. It isn’t like every player wakes up on July 2 and makes a final decision, no more than football recruits decide on signing day. The red flags around the Ynoa signing were about money that landed in the agent’s pocket. Until we start hearing stuff like that, I think we are free and clear.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on May 15, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

well the money is what has been the problem

with the nationals, with the guys from the marlins?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

The rule actually says you can't even talk about money until July 2.

I read that somewhere last year. Whoever said that might have been wrong, but that’s my current belief (probably until I read the actual rule).

by NoNameOnCard on May 15, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

say you cant talk about money

but you can sign them, without talking about money?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

What are you asking?

You talk about money on July 2, then you sign them. Your confusion confuses me.

by NoNameOnCard on May 15, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shit like this happens every year.

It’s no big deal at all.

The thing where we felt jobbed on Ynoa is that we couldn’t even get to him to make an offer. Or at least that’s what I’ve always understood… the details of that whole saga are murky.

As far as I understand it, it’s like football recruiting. Guys are free to commit early and shut down their own recruitment, but they can’t sign shit before the deadline and the team can’t stop other teams from trying.

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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

i know it happens

and the thing about that was that he was somewhat “unavaliable” in that situation (from what we know) — and it sounds like by “not working out for other teams” thats what were doing in this situation

(thats just how i read it)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is where the real cheating is going on this summer:
According to the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, the Pirates have an inside track on signing one of Latin America’s top amateur prospects, Dominican shortstop Miguel Angel Sano, but the cost of the signing bonus could top $4 million and become the highest in Major League Baseball history for that region.

“The Pirates are one of many teams interested, and they’ve got as good a shot as any team as long as the money is there,” Sano’s agent, Rob Plummer, told the newspaper. “There’s no question they’re interested, just as there’s no question this is a special talent.”

by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where's the cheating?

Or are you saying that he’s so drool-worthy that if there’s gonna be teams cheating to get a prospect this summer, this beastly beast is gonna be the guy?

And has anyone ever posted a thorough account of what happened with Edward Salcedo?

Was he ever conclusively found to have lied about his age, or what exactly happened?

All I can ever find is vague rumors.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

That
Or are you saying that he’s so drool-worthy that if there’s gonna be teams cheating to get a prospect this summer, this beastly beast is gonna be the guy?

by Brett Perryman on May 15, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

We've seen this report before, no?

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

Yes, we have.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 15, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who?

Do you remember the players? Anyone of note?

by 3Bagger on May 15, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

it was this one i think

just this guy

said they were in on the guy with the weird j-name also maybe?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jurickson Profar

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by t ball on May 15, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

2nd time i believe

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Everett's comment

One thing I would like to see this team improve is its situational hitting. Yesterday’s game is a perfect example. 1st and 3rd, 1 out and we get 0 runs because Teagarden can’t put the ball in play. This has happened several times this year, notably in the Grienke game, when they had a chance to small ball a run and couldn’t do it. They need to really focus on moving guys along and whatnot in tight games because it seems to be a shortcoming.

by pblack on May 15, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions  

Well

Teagarden is a guy who doesn’t make contact well. I don’t think it is a lack of focus on trying to get the runner home…they just had a high-K guy up there against a pitcher who misses a lot of bats.

by Adam J. Morris on May 15, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tea

I thought it was more symptomatic of a bigger problem than a specific instance.

by pblack on May 15, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

teagarden

making contact is the weakest part of the guys game

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

well fuckin pinch hit for the guy

Wash in the last 2 games has mishandled the PH situation in both games and had good play bail out poor managing tactics multiple times. He’s lucky, he may be the greatest clubhouse team oriented manager in the game, but he is a lucky SOB b/c he doesnt always put the best players in the best situation to succeed late in games and it shoulda cost us games like the last 2, we just got really lucky.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

With whom?

Who do you want to send up there in that situation?

I don’t see that PHing for Teagarden in that situation is a slam dunk, personally.

by Adam J. Morris on May 15, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

Coming into yesterday

Teagarden was 6 for his last 17 with a walk. He’s come around some since his horrible start – kinda like Davis. Yesterday Tea couldn’t get the runner home from 3rd and went 0/2 but at least he still drew a walk.

by shroomer on May 15, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

its RON WASHINGTON

hes not going to make logical decisions, hes gonna make gut decisions

hes not a manager who is going to make great “game” decisions — just not who he is

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woops

The thing is, Tea catches Harrison, and as long as Harrison is still in the game, Tea is in the order. Note that Andruw was on deck to PH for Tea in the 9th.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on May 15, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

so when its game 6 of the WS bases are juiced and its the top of the 8th, your down by 2

TT is up tp bat and Matty is pitching, u leave TT to bat and not andruw jones, just b/c you would need 1/2 inning of salty catching?

thats friggin dumb

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Didn't say I'd do it

That’s evidently how Wash viewed it.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on May 15, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is not a logical man (when it comes to baseball)

after the game when asked about the situation he would say

i kept teagarden in the game because he is a gritty player who “plays the game right” and has the good face. he was due for a hit and i think he is a clutch player. he is also the personal catcher for a pitcher…cant break up that chemistry

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

you cant say

situational hitting on this site…

It riles up the natives

"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)

by Arlington Stadium Legend on May 15, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Situational Hitting

Be that as it may, and I am aware of their feelings on this, I think they underestimate situational hitting, especially in tight games. In the past situational hitting has been anathema to the Rangers’ situation where their pitching was so poor that the team needed as many runs as necessary. If the pitching holds then many nights the team could win with 5 runs.

by pblack on May 15, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

I got attacked, called names, etc. just because I said it wouldn’t hurt to try and move runners over sometimes. I’m all for situational hitting. I know it isn’t a perfect science, but it’s still better than the wasted at bat.

"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)

by Arlington Stadium Legend on May 15, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

it may not be a perfect science but

if you got guys on 1st and 3rd with 1 out you better god damn be able to hit a deep sac fly to get a run in.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Chris Davis

I like the way Chris Davis hit in that situation…

by IanKinslerMVP on May 15, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice. 2 comeback wins? Saw them on replay online...

molto bene!

Chris Davis got some ups.

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by Longhorn on May 15, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions  

Cool

But personally I’m more excited about Jurickson Profar. I’d need to check with Zywica, but I believe he would immediately become the Rangers’ coolest named prospect.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on May 15, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions  

Prufrock

is what I’m calling him. Judge and Juri. Prozac. Profar of the Hill People.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

The Love Song of Jurickson Profar

I like it.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on May 15, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

R.I.P. Phil Hartman

You don’t get too many lothar of the Hill People references.

Still remember the stupid theme song. What a great era for SNL

What's the rumpus?

by Hypo-Luxa on May 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

DRH!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Tim Lincecum

Timmy Lincecum is only slightly bigger than that…and he’s great

by IanKinslerMVP on May 15, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

he is also a freak of nature in every way

from his size to his motion to how hard he throws

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

His gymnast-like athleticism doesn't get mentioned enough, imo.

I couldn’t find the actual image, but I read an article about his stretching routine and it included a pic of him doing a full back bend and other crazy shit. Also talked about how he sometimes just does standing backflips when gets bored. Like they’re nothing. That’s silly. He truly is a freak.

I can’t even see a pic of a full back bend without getting back spasms.

Ouch.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I could never get in that position

but I’m curious, once you do that, how do you get out?

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on May 15, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I imagine you transition into a handstand by kicking your feet up.

But I’m one of the most inflexible people you’ll ever meet.

I played sports all my life, doing all the stretching that came along with that, and never once was able to touch my toes without cheating.

No one in my family can.

Our ligaments are made of some sort of metallic substance, I’m sure of it.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

"Clasp Knife"

At your maximum stretch, powerfully contract your stretched muscle(s). This lengthens the muscle tissue and increase flexibility. If done right, it doesn’t stress your ligaments any more than other isometric exercises do.

by NoNameOnCard on May 15, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Metallic substance

Your love of robots is starting to make sense.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Dunno.

I’d prolly fart & fall down.

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on May 15, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Fart and flip over more like it. lol

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Step 1

Fall over sideways

Step 2
Have someone call ambulance

by Telegraph on May 15, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

He would rank up there with Font.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on May 15, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Leonel de los Santos is what I call my penis when I'm with a prostitute.

Such a cool name.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

LMAO

WOW.

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 15, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

You'll know you've found love

when she responds “what, you mean Macumba?”

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by t ball on May 15, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure

we already bought this guy. these kids need to learn they can’t just repackage themselves at a new position and continue to rake in signing bonuses every year.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on May 15, 2009 10:22 AM CDT reply actions  

Heh.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

i sort of mentioned this

in the draft thread, but if this team is in a position to make some big name/dollar signings on the LA front this year, how do you think it will affect their draft approach?

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on May 15, 2009 10:24 AM CDT reply actions  

I really don't think it will at all.

I think Hicks sees the way this thing is headed. This is the one area Hicks will spend money.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

its an area that has (recently) paid returns to their minor league systtem

id rather spend 6 mil+ in latin america than 6 mil on franky catt

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

its taken years for most people here to realize this.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

it def did for hicks

and yes, it took a long time

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

There are still folks

here, who still don’t understand that.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

who

they need to be kicked in the teeth — logically would one rather spend 6 mil on someone like franky catt (fringe guy) or someone like yona/felix hernandez/miguel cabrera/font/boscan/etc

come to think of it feliz/perez/font/boscan/2x catchers/beltre (not us, i know) were signed for less than 6 mil total i think…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

that's nice to hear

and i’m sure that’s the case at the beginning of this process, but I have a feeling the line can blur under certain circumstances. If it looks like we can sign two or three guys who we feel would be first day picks in the draft, I bet we might dip into our draft pool to pull that off.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on May 15, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

This is confusing to me
Rangers pitchers are throwing 16.4 pitches per inning, fourth fewest in the American League. They have also thrown 146.5 pitches per game. Last year the Rangers threw 16.3 pitchers per inning, the most in the American League, and 154.2 pitches per game.

So the Rangers are throwing slightly more pitches per inning this year than last, but they have gone from worst last year to third best? Is this a typo?

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on May 15, 2009 10:27 AM CDT reply actions  

still fairly small sample size maybe

hmm

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that number is wrong

I swear I saw somewhere it was 14.6 pitches per inning this year.

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by t ball on May 15, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

even at that

is the difference b/w top five and worst really fewer than 2 pitches/inning?

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by WhipSmart on May 15, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes, that would not surprise me

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by t ball on May 15, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think he should have to go by "william pimentel"

you can’t have 2 guys with the same name in the same organization. It’s against the rules!

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on May 15, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions  

Kind of like the Cowboys

This past year they had two players named Roy Williams. Since one of them was from UT and the other OU, we Longhorn fans called them good Roy and evil Roy. Not sure what everyone else called them

by BEW on May 15, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions  

OOPS

The reply button is my friend

by BEW on May 15, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

heh or we called them that

cuz one was good and one was evil heh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

crummy roy #1 and crummy roy #2

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

This

They were both great in college but not so much in the pros. Jerry gave up way to much for WR Roy and gave up way to much $$$ for S Roy.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

give roy a chance this year — lets see what he can do

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

He might do well

But I still think Jerry gave up to much to get him.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 15, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

i wouldnt have given up that much

worked so well the last time the ’boys traded for a WR, right? (galloway)

/sarcasm lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Saunders comment...

Will people ever stop this “RBiA is the best hitters park in the league” bullshit. Seriously, I understand the reputation, but will someone look at the numbers for crying out loud. I’m really tired of hearing about that and the summer heat wearing down the Rangers players so they can’t win there argument. It’s just crap.

Maybe, just maybe, the reason why it’s such a great hitters park is because the Rangers have a great offense? And perhaps the reason why the Rangers haven’t won anything in a decade has nothing to do with the heat, perhaps it’s just been shitty pitching? Fuck. End of rant.

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by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions  

You forgot to add

/t ball

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by Rodney on May 15, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

My rants are starting to spread…excellent.

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by t ball on May 15, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, you can spot a genuine t ball rant by the Dad joke at the end.

And “Fuck. End of rant.” isn’t any Dad joke that I know of…

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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

when

the Rangers hosted Baltimore I had to watch the MASN broadcast. That booth wouldn’t stop talking about the Ballpark. All commentary on the Rangers offensive ended with"…but in this ballpark that’s not surprising." Every effing hit was the result of the RBIA. ugh

by ncrangerfan on May 15, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

As long as

the team hits .313/.380/.553 at home and .250/.292/.441 on the road, like they have been this year, I suspect you will keep hearing it. Hitting 200+ OPS better at home and being fairly crappy road offense tends to lead to those comments.

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by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's still early though Dan...

do you really expect to see those splits stay that way all season? I don’t. Have they been that way in the past few years? If you look at RBiA the last few years it has been a slightly better than average place to hit compared to other parks in the league. It’s certainly not the best hitters ballpark in the league.

Again I understand the reputaion. My problem is that reputation has come about because of the park rather than the Rangers just always having a good offense and shitty pitchers that can make another teams offense look that much better in the Rangers park. I don’t understand why very few people tend to see the correlation.

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by slc ranger on May 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't imagine they will stay that way all year

but at this point in the season, there is good reason for a commentor to talk about park effects.

I think Park effects change a little bit year to year depending on temperatures and wind conditions. I wouldn’t be surprised if this year was more hitter friendly than last year.

The reputation doesn’t come from the Rangers traditionally having good hitters and crappy pitchers though. I think that notion is just flat wrong.

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by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

In 2008

OPS at home — 866
OPS on road — 766

Major league average OPS at home — 769
Major league average OPS on road — 730

by Adam J. Morris on May 15, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

yea, most teams hit better at home

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by blalock84 on May 15, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

There is a difference

between hitting .04 better, and .2 better.

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by DJCahill on May 15, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

the .2 is 5 week fluke.

I looked into this a while ago, their 8 year average was something like a .085 split. Still significant of course.

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by DShep on May 15, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's prolly due more to the lasers, though.

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by thedirkatron on May 15, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

they havent hit a bunch of hitters ballparks though

seattle, kc, detroit, TO, oakland, LAAAofA has more of a hitters park, but we really havent gone to a bunch of hitters parks yet and when we do, New Yankee stadium, Fenway we face tough pitchers. There arent a bunch of teams for us to face on the road where we can go face a staff like the rangers of the past in a hitters park.

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by Jayslick on May 15, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

butbutbutbut

heat wave, jet stream and home runs galore!

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by knockoutking on May 15, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a way

I don’t mind the “reputation”. Even if it only psyches a few opposing starting pitchers. Just as a fair chunk of the MSM has it wrong about some players, let’s combine a little flying under the radar with some fear of appearing here. Even if it doesn’t really work.

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by Ed Coffin on May 15, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

but if it is really keeping free agent SPs from considering Arlington

then it is something I mind. I agree with the original rant by slc though. The reputation of the Ballpark as a hitter’s park is greatly exacerbated by the fact that the Rangers have had crappy pitching and good hitting for the better part of the 15 years that the park has been open.

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by willamos2 on May 15, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't think

That good pitchers would treat fact based explanations, or current low run games at the Ballpark, as hype from the team soliciting them. I sort of agree with those who think the persistent hot weather is more tiring and that may be more a deterrent than the park factors issue. When a good opposing pitcher plays here and gets lit up (Felix, Halladay, others) he should know it’s just as much who he is facing and how “on” he is for that game – my take is that star athletes seldom like to accept personal blame for sub-par performances, and that’s something we all have to live with no matter the situation. But yeah, there seem to be cases in the past where pitchers just don’t want to be here. I’d suggest Millwood’s take (you only have to do better than the guy you are opposing) and Sheets’ readiness to sign as helpful in reversing that trend.

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by Ed Coffin on May 15, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

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