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A.L. West Standings, part deux


AL West Standings

W L PCT GB STRK
Texas 23 14 .621 0 Won 7
Los Angeles 18 18 .500 4.5 Lost 3
Seattle 17 20 .459 6 Lost 1
Oakland 13 21 .382 8.5 Lost 3

(updated 5.17.2009 at 4:09 PM CDT)



 

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"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 17, 2009 4:54 PM CDT reply actions  

That's the shit.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 17, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

I second this

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

3rd

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 17, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nobody

change a single thing they’re doing. Please.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 17, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions  

i didn’t get all the hype Oakland was getting to start the year. They had 3 rookies pitchers they were counting on, and you can’t count on them to eat the type of innings that a veteran can in order to save your bullpen. That said, the A’s have had the most IP by their bullpen and it won’t improve as their young guns start to tire as the season drags on.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 17, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

yup

so glad we didnt do the same thing with feliz and holland to start the year

my sig is better than yours

by MayurP on May 17, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

and they signed a bunch

of past their prime FA position players.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Losing Duke and having Holliday and Giambi struggle out of the gate really hurt 'em.

But, yah.

I don’t know why people thought they’d be good this year.

I thought perhaps they might make a run at .500 if some things broke right, though.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.

by thedirkatron on May 17, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

their rotation was *horrible*

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it just me

or does it not make sense that we play Detroit 6 times in their home park before they play in Arlington, and we only have 3 games at home against them. Couldn’t there have been a 5-4 split. I just hate playing in Detroit, but I suppose we couldn’t ask for a better time to go there.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 17, 2009 4:59 PM CDT reply actions  

well we get the same 6 at home 3 away vs some other team

i see what you are saying, but ultimately it doesn’t matter much.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

So beautiful

i know this is really premature but what is the biggest lead that the rangers have ever had in first place? Didnt they get like 8 games in one of their playoff years?

by Michael Cave on May 17, 2009 5:03 PM CDT reply actions  

more than that

I seem to remember them being 10 or 11 up once.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was pretty happy with the rangers the day before this streak started.

i dont know what to think right now.

i’ll try not to be upset when the streak ends, heh.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Very interested in the next month...

The next month will be a huge measuring stick for this team…

Detroit (3 games) is a division leader and kicked our ass last time we were there… The Yankees (6 games) look to be hitting their stride and seems like they always own the Rangers… And you’ve got Boston (3), Toronto (4), and the Dodgers (3) all sitting above .500… And games against Oakland and Houston sprinkled in there somewhere as well…

Really excited to see what this team is made of over the next few weeks….

by N41D on May 17, 2009 5:13 PM CDT reply actions  

Agreed

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

.501 the rest of the way makes 86

Which should be enough to take the West.

Excited, yes. Worried, no.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 17, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know...

Excited, yes. Worried, yes.

Those are some good teams.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 17, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, I don't know that I'm worried...

While I’ve bought into this team and their prospects going forward, I still don’t know how much I really expect this year…

I wouldn’t be terribly disappointed or surprised if they came back to earth some over the next month… But really, I think they’re more than capable of holding their own and showing people they really belong THIS YEAR…

If they continue to play the way they’ve played so far this month, I don’t think we’ve got much to worry about, even with the spike in games against more competitive teams…

by N41D on May 17, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

My preceeding post was full of post-game machismo.

I had no inkling, idea, or belief that this team would perform as well as it has thus far. Honestly, I was hoping for .500 plus a few as a sign of growth going forward.

However, they have some kind of Mojo going for them…and I never doubt Mojo, or Jobu.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 17, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

FU Jobu

We do it ourselves!!

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 6:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

6 times the Rangers have had a homestand sweep.

None ever included a divisional foe.

This was the First Time Ever the Rangers have swept a homestand of divisional bunkmates.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 17, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

including the team who only thought they were nipping at our heels.

There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns

by RachelB on May 17, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

the angels

should get both felix and bedard against the M’s, maybe they can do us a favor.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 5:28 PM CDT reply actions  

too bad

his infinity ERA was great

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 17, 2009 6:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Anyone besides me think that...

His whole 1st inning things was because he wasn’t ready to actually pitch and they used him as a messenger?

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on May 17, 2009 7:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

i doubt it

if he wasnt ready , i dont think they are gonna take a chance on him getting hurt

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it was a conspiracy

That being said, if Lackey wasn’t ready to start, nothing wrong with putting him in for a few pitches knowing the Angels would immediately bring him out. He would have to throw practice and status determination pitches anyways, so what does it matter if it is in a game?

by Mark from OC on May 17, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think he didn't think

that he’d get tossed.

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 17, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

FYI

si.com has the Rangers on the main page of their MLB section.

by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Hah

“Michael Young’s Rangers…..” This is Kinsler’s team now. Sorry F Face.

The CJ hate is getting old.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.

by sprite on May 17, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

You gotta give Face credit for looking so darn cool while throwing across his body, though

by BuckyB on May 17, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was the shades.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

like jeter? or 'tek?

the C is overrated in baseball.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

is it really?

i havn’t heard a lot of high rating of the captain title in baseball.

i dont even really care, i just think it’d be nice. not wearing a c on the uni or anything, just the title.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

people made a big deal about when

’tek and jeter were named “captain” — but other than that can anyone think of anyone else that has a C on their jersey? (in baseball)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

doesn't need it.

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 17, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Through SI I found this

link.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on May 17, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best quote
Meantime, in the what’s fair is fair department, it should be noted that over in Detroit on Sunday, former Ranger Armando Galarraga did not make it out of the first inning, surrendering four hits and five runs while walking three. Last year, as Galarraga was winning 13 games for the Tigers while Texas’ pitching struggled, he was being held up as just one more example of Texas general manager Jon Daniels’ failures.

This isn’t to say that Galarraga won’t come back strong or that the Rangers’ current pitching success will continue to this magnitude. Things change in this game, and they’ve seen plenty of that in Arlington.

Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!

by DerekSTheRed on May 17, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

This isn’t the Marlins Dontrelle of yester year.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

someone better tell them a couple extra times to be patient

we could hit him anyway, but i’d be nice to get into their pen early again by getting him out of the game fast, ad he will definitely walk himself out of thegame if you let him.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT

Marlins DFA John Koronka

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions  

Hamilton on Fox tonight

FYI for local to DFW Rangers fans. Hamilton will be on the Sunday Sports show thing at 10pm tonight with Mike Doocy on Fox (Channel 4). Apparently he will be ok, but it will be good to see him and hear him say it. That and they’ll probably replay that catch about 300 more times. ;)

by Sarkazein on May 17, 2009 5:57 PM CDT reply actions  

So I've heard redsox chants in both seattle and anaheim this week.

im glad it happens to them too.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 6:03 PM CDT reply actions  

Josh Hamilton's Catch

I dunno if someone has linked it yet

by BuckyB on May 17, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Old news, I'm sure

but Pudge hit his 300th homer today. Good for him.

by Slaw on May 17, 2009 6:16 PM CDT reply actions  

Did anybody catch the irony of the last out, today?

It was a former Angel K’ing a former Ranger.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 6:17 PM CDT reply actions  

Caught that, very nice

GMJ looked positively amateurish swinging at O’Day’s changeup on strike two and three.

"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 17, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

AJM

 you have to change the standings…

M’s won 3-2

Damn you BoSox buzzkillers!!

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 6:20 PM CDT reply actions  

noone cares about the m's winning anymore =p

accept against the angels this week of course

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd rather they win

so they can get hot for the Angels. I want the Angels to tank like the Ms did this week.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 17, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

bottom of 9

watched on mlb.tv

stupid nick green

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Do I think Rachel Mae

is hot because she is or because she is a good looking woman talking baseball?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 6:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Both!!

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 6:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm Darren O'Day, bitches

"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 17, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

where are we

without this pickup?

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

x

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 18, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

Plotting CJ Wilson's murder.

"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 18, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

All the players are talking about the fans chanting sweep in the 9th

When I was watching the game I didn’t hear any of that. Did anyone else hear it?

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on May 17, 2009 7:05 PM CDT reply actions  

I blacked out

when they were doing the freakin wave during the bottom of the 9th.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 17, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was ridiculous

but that’s what happens when your team has no history of success.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 17, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

What’s worse: the wave was actually louder than the fans chanting sweep. I am very confused how this phenomenon has lasted so long.

by Mark from OC on May 17, 2009 8:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

IT survives because it's a great chance to stand up and get the fabric outta your crack..

other than that, it’s useless

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on May 17, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's sad

Rangers game attendees have to have an artificial reason to get the fabric out of their crack. No more wave!

by Mark from OC on May 17, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sooo frustrating

I didn’t hear the chant either

by BuckyB on May 17, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard it

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

i just went back and watched the end again

its hard to hear what they are saying over all the other noise and it being a chant and all, but i can certainly hear it.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 7:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

I didn't record it sadly.

But that’s awesome that they were. All I remember hearing was clapping.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on May 17, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

i heard it

but they never talked about it on FSSW

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 7:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I heard it.

I did it.

I was alllll wrapped up in it.

Even my sisters were doing it, and they asked me after the game what it meant.

There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns

by RachelB on May 17, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

True but

Without Hank the Rangers don’t win two of the games against the M’s.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Without Hank making so many outs...

…maybe the Rangers don’t need a walk off to win those two games against the M’s.

by Adam J. Morris on May 17, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 Jinx

You owe me a soda.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 17, 2009 7:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is true

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Then again

with someone else getting those AB’s in the middle of the order throughout the game, might not need the late inning heroics.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 17, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

More good news

We have the second best record in the AL and are tied with the Brewers for 2nd in all of MLB.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 7:48 PM CDT reply actions  

snapsizzle

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on May 17, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'll try not to say snapsizzle again.

I apologize.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on May 17, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

foshizzle

is awwight

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

means little

on May 17

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 8:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

June

Should be a crazy but fun month to watch rangers baseball

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA

by mchang4 on May 17, 2009 7:57 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm sad that there is no game tomorrow.

Boring days like Monday deserve Baseball.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on May 17, 2009 8:05 PM CDT reply actions  

+ 1izzle

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 17, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

im kind of glad

give me a day to stay on this baseball high and listen to some radio praise of them without an inevitable (at some point) loss.

not to mention monday would be an extra game without frankie and possibly hamilton.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm just glad...

…we are playing on Memorial Day, since MLB seems to think that a holiday Monday deserves only a partial schedule.

by Adam J. Morris on May 17, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

stupid

All teams should play on weekends, Memorial Day, July 4 and Labor Day. That includes the minor leagues (except Labor Day for them).

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 8:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

i agree with this

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 17, 2009 8:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Month of May

So the Rangers are 13-3 so far this month. I don’t think it is out of the question with the way they are playing that the Rangers could go 21-8 for the month. That would have them sitting pretty going into June.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 8:19 PM CDT reply actions  

ill be just fine if they hold serve at .500 for a few weeks (remaining at 9 over)

just don’t collapse with a 6 game losing streak and ruin everything.

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by DShep on May 17, 2009 8:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

I do think they can go 8-5 over the final 13 games of the month.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 8:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Okay I'm sorry

but after patrolling around for a while, I’m tired of hearing one of the reasons the Rangers will flare out come August is because of the heat. I’m sorry, but I just don’t see that as a legitimate reason for the team to start struggling. Could someone explain this to me? Everyone claims the pitchers will fall apart due to the heat, but I just don’t understand how someone who plays once every 5 days will lose stamina, endurance, control, etc. solely due to the gametime temperature. Can someone explain this to me?

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on May 17, 2009 8:57 PM CDT reply actions  

it's not far fetched

Go outside and dig a hole for three hours when it’s 70 degrees out. Then go back out in the middle of the summer when its 100 and dig for 3 hours. Compare the size of the two holes and how you feel afterwards.

I’m not saying that the pitchers will fall apart, but you seem to be asking why the heat is a factor and I’d think that anyone that has lived in Texas would know that without a doubt it is a factor when you are out there working in it.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 17, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

Channelling your inner-wufdog, Tricer?

He is the biggest dmbass I’ve ever read on these boards.

Did Bob Gibson & Steve Carlton pitch in St.Louis?

Baltimore has had some decent staffs in the past and the ATL spent what, 15 years killing batters.

Throw strikes and play good defense, the pitching will be okay.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yet again I agree with you Josey

The world is going to end soon.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not that I disagree with most of what you said

but seriously, just because Cal Ripken and his brother said that Baltimore is as hot as Texas doesn’t mean that its true. And no, I’m not in the HOF but I can still say that with 100% certainty.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

gdawg,

You may not know it but in the Mindless Cheerleader HOF, you were one of the first inductees.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's fine

but can you explain to me how Baltimore is hotter than Texas. Any bit of evidence outside of what the Ripken boys said.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt that the Ripken boys would lie

and Billy played here for 2-3 seasons as well.

They said it. Gotta problem, take it up with them.

All I know is that I’m going to believe them more than some dumbass who didn’t play in The Show named wufdog.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

July is the hottest month in Baltimore it avg. 91 degrees

97 degrees in July for Arlington

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

humidity?

What is the infamous “feels like” number?

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Am I wufdog

You should know that I can’t stand him either, but that doesn’t mean he’s wrong there just like you aren’t wrong to be upset about Benson starting the season in the rotation over Feldman.

None of this matters though because Baltimore is not hotter than Texas ever.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Baltimore is not hotter than Arlington

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Go tell Cal

and make sure you visit the Mindless Cheerleader HOF some day.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

For anyone doubting this

The data is out there. That includes not only high temperature but temperature at different hours as well as the average relative humidity by hour. You can download it by weather station in comma delimited sets.

St. Louis is not hotter. Baltimore/DC is not hotter. Atlanta is not hotter. Houston is close, but is more humid and actually worse than here and that’s why they’ve played in a dome for 50 or whatever years.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

You think both Ripkens don't know what

the hell they’re talking about?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Numbers do not lie

People make mistakes. Some things, like temperature and humidity are what they are, and can be measured very precisely.

In their particular case, I have lived in both places too. Baltimore, when it gets hot, gets really hot. At least as hot as it does here. But they have a week or two on end of genuinely pleasant days. When does the heat ever let up here? Ever? Once it gets going it never stops for anything. A line of thunderstorms move through and the sun comes out right after that and you’re in the world’s largest sauna. Much like HOU.

I’m not saying they’re lying. I’m saying they’re wrong.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

BF-

If you played as long as they did in The Show, I might believe you but I’m going to roll with the Ripkens on this one.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

So why should anyone believe you

Are you a HOF?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Weather stats

are facts, things that actually happened. Facts trump the memories of any baseball player, no matter how great.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 18, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Congrats on continuing to ignore the argument

Since Cal Ripken is so right on this subject, you should be able to find one bit of supporting evidence. Anything at all. Can you find a single bit of evidence that supports your claim? Or are you sticking with “Cal and Billy Ripken said it on XM radio one day”

You a Joe Morgan fan? He’s in the HOF you know.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Joe Morgan

may have been the smartest/best player I ever saw.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

So you agree with everything he says then?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

No, dipshit.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess we have to do this in babysteps for you

So a great baseball player can make statements that are not correct. Even though they had a great career and are in the HOF, you agree that doesn’t mean they are always right when talking about something “Great Game”.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Gdawg

relax with the logic, his head might explode

by BuckyB on May 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

lol

He’s already starting to figure it out. You can tell when he stops responding.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

this is certainly wreck worthy

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 18, 2009 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

BWI vs. DFW, August 1

BWI average daily high: 86 degrees.
DFW average daily high: 97 degrees

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

isn't the temp higher in DFW

than it is in Houston?

To me, it is significantly warmer in Houston than it is in DFW.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why does Houston matter?

Aren’t we talking about Baltimore here?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Houston has a dome

thats shut most games. Its such a silly argument.

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by DJCahill on May 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

See my above post, Cahill

think about it and then try not to make an ass out of yourself.

Again.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

My eyes are closing out of boredom.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by inactive lsb user on May 18, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

While the temp may be higher in DFW

it stills feel much hotter in Houston.

Am ….I……going…..too…fast….

??

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

but you still haven’t said a single thing to support your claim of Baltimore being hotter than Dallas.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Outlaw

is arguing about the weather?

Clearly a poster that’s not ready for the show.

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by FirebatM3 on May 18, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Uh,

Houston plays in a dome. A dome. It does not matter what the temp/humidity in Houston is unless the power fails inside the dome. A dome. They play in a dome.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 18, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yes. That's because of their smog and humidity.

And there’s not that much difference in the temperatures. When we’re 101 they’re 96. It’s worse there for sure.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed

But Atlanta is just as hot and St. Louis in the summer time is just as hot and more humid.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not true either.

I’ve been to these places in the summer. You can also look it up at NOAA. Texas is in the middle of hell, right between the fucking desert and the subtropics. Cold fronts never make it here. The sun is brutal. The south wind keeps it humid. We’re lucky if it’s 80 degrees at 5am. At midnight it’s normally still well above 90.

These other places CAN get just as hot. I lived in DC, which is obviously very close to Baltimore. So I know what it’s like there. They have some really pleasant summer days but get their heat waves too.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might buy the heat problem if the Rangers

didn’t play soooo many games at night.

95 degrees at night in July & August is not bad compared to what it’s like in the day.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

But it’s deceptively bad and other teams playing aren’t having to deal with that shit, believe me. It cools off in other parts of the world when the sun goes down. Here it just dissipates very slowly.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have family that live in both places

Yes St. Louis with it’s humidity is just as hot and Atlanta has almost the same climate as Arlington does.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 17, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't care who lives there

Data backs it up. Go to NOAA and see for yourself. You can see more information than you ever wanted to know.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe somebody can tell me why the 2007 Rangers

pitched so well after they started that season 23-42.

My recollection is that team went something like 46-33 from mid June to early September and a big reason why was because of their pitching.

Don’t buy the bullshit about it being too hot in Texas because it’s not only a crutch, it’s an f’ing lie.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares if its a crutch or not

The Angels won the division in 2008 because the sky is green. Well I guess since the Angels won the division in 2008, then I must be right in saying the sky is green.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

1998 may have been the hottest summer other than 1980

I can ever remember but it didn’t bother that Ranger team.

Bad teams (other than the 2007 Rangers) wilt in the heat.

Good teams overcome the heat.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think the heat is the only reason why Rangers pitchers have sucked throughout the years

I think that it plays its part, but its not the sole reason and shouldn’t be used as an excuse.

Again, can we please put the Baltimore is as hot as Texas theory to rest then?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

All I'm saying is it's hotter here

I’m not saying it necessarily has to affect performence. Again, as long as the players stay conditioned, hydrated, and avoid the long innings on defense it shouldn’t matter. They’re professional atheletes. If anyone can handle it they can.

So I don’t buy into it as an excuse. I’m just stating what the facts are.

And if the pitching sucks and they take 30 minutes to get through their half inning, yeah it’s going to drain the team. If they can stay away from that I don’t see why it would be a factor. If anything it would be an advantage because other teams wouldn’t be as acclimated to it.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

If you don't buy into it as an excuse,

we’ve found common ground.

:)

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think it's an excuse either

But I just saying I would rather have the dry heat here rather than deal with the Humid summer of St. Louis.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 18, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those places aren't as hot as here.

They have days where it is or worse, but they have their shard of 82 degree days, too.

That said, the night games shouldn’t be a big problem as long as they stay hydrated and in good physical condition overall. Avoiding the big inning is important.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

It actually gets harder with the troll script.

"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph

Hello Win Column

by LSJ on May 18, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I mean historically

if we’re gonna talk about humid/hot areas such as ATL and BAL, is there any statistical discrepancy or correlation between statistical pitching categories and temperature? I’d be curious to find out.

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on May 17, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Apparently the humidity was waaaaaay down in Baltimore

coincidentally, when Earl Weaver was there (1969-82) , in St.Louis throughout the 1960s as well (when Bob Gibson was plying his craft) and in Atlanta from 1991-2005 or somesuch.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 11:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

For the record

the hottest I’ve ever felt a baseball game was August 2005, in NYC watching the Rangers play the Yankees.

It was 98 degrees with ungodly humidity and no wind….and it was a night game.

How’d the Yankees pitching staff cope with that much heat without folding?!?!?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because it's not like that all the time there

When NYC heats up it is hell on Earth. I agree. But it, like ATL, BAL, and to a lesser extent STL, just isn’t like that all the time.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The data is there

You can run the regressions yourself. I’m not going to do that. Been a long time since I did that shit and would do it wrong but there’s gotta be someone willing to spend the time on it.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

BF

A lot of what you’re saying makes sense but why would both Ripkens lie?

In the summer the Rangers are here 7-10 days at a time (playing at night) and then go on the road to some place cooler.

The heat is a crutch for pitchers who suck.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

They aren't lying

They are just wrong. It happens.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 17, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know why the Ripkens would say what they did

All I can tell you as that I lived there and my experience was much different. The numbers you can find at NWS or NOAA. Same thing.

Like I said, much like NYC when it does get hot there it gets really hot. There’s no doubt about that. But it’s just not like that all the time and the nights for sure are cooler (except when they have a bad heat wave, then it’s kind of like here).

Here they start at 7 or 7:30. The sun doesn’t even go down until almost 9. Our high temps for the day are usually recorded at 5 or 6pm depending on the time of year. The humidity climbs as it cools off and keeps it hot here, much like a giant blanket. It’s just hotter here, believe me.

You’re right that we do find common ground in terms of it being a lousy excuse. While it’s probably a lot nicer to play in SD, that’s not where they play and it can be dealt with. It has been in the past, and the last two seasons they went on to play better as the season went along.

I simply take issue with anyone saying it’s as hot in BAL or DC or almost anywhere else, frankly, as it is here in Dallas. Because it’s not true. I don’t care who says it.

by Black Francis on May 17, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

And maybe what they were trying to imply is that the heat takes

just as much out of you as a baseball player in Balitmore as it does in DFW.

We have to leave that door open.

I’ve been to Baltimore in August and it was a piece of cake compared to DFW but I was there for a weekend series and did play in The Show there for several summers.

If you’re in shape, climatized to the elements, hydrated and throw enough strikes, you can be a good pitcher any place, including Arlington.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

*

did not play in the Show for several summers…

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well then we shouldn't take anything you say seriously

You have to play in the show to have an opinion or facts about the freakin weather.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 18, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

poor analogy

Don’t really care for your analogy. Millwood, or any other pitcher, is not going to throw a game in April, become a couch potato for 3 months and then go pitch a game in July.

Yes the heat has an effect on the pitchers. I think it varies from game to game, start to start, pitcher to pitcher. Just like the reputation of the RBiA being a hitters haven is over blown, how the heat effect pitcher I think is also overblown.

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 11:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's no reason to think...

that the starters will flare out because of the heat. It’s not like they are pitching every single night or that all of their starts will be in Texas in July and August. I guess someone could look up and see how many games that the average Rangers’ starter makes in Arlington during the months of July and August, but even without that, I’d say not many.

The reason that the Rangers haven’t had good starting pitching is because they haven’t had good pitchers.

by Redcaps on May 18, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

minus points to me for not spelling

dumbass correctly.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 17, 2009 10:14 PM CDT reply actions  

Wow.

That was intense.

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on May 17, 2009 10:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Great things happen when you're facebook friends with C.J.

Like discovering this gem from Triple Play tonight in someone else’s photo album

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 11:25 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm trying to identify the rookies...

??, Harrison, Elvis, Teagarden and Holland

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

And I actually think the far left is CD

His hands just look very tan

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

those are the rookies? hmm

O’Day, Elvis, Teabag, Holland

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

on the far left

in the back? Madrigal?

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 17, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has Madrigal actually arrived?

I suppose that could be him…

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nadel said yesterday

that Maddog was supposed to be available for late innings if necessary. So, it is possibly him.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 17, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Looks too skinny though

Not to be mean

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 17, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

Golson??

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 18, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think it is Davis

The picture just makes him look darker. Harrison isn’t that tan either.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 18, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

But Davis

isn’t a rookie.

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 18, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

It's a longshot,

but Neftali?

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 18, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is there any other rookie that it could be?

There is no way that its Madrigal. I don’t think they’d have someone who isn’t on the ML team there.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 18, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

umm

Madrigal got called up when Frankie went on the DL.

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 18, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Wasn't clear there

There is no way that’s Madrigal because he looks like he’s the same height as Harrison (Madrigal is listed as 4 inches shorter) and well, Madrigal’s kind of a hefty guy. And I don’t think they’d have someone who isn’t on the ML team there which means no Feliz (he’s in OKC anyways). So, if its not Davis, who is that mystery player?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 18, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

He's not a rookie

but Cruz

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 18, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

Cruz

is not a rookie either.

I hate the Yankees. Especially when they hit a walkoff.

by RangerMad on May 18, 2009 7:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Davis probably considered a rookie

Because he wasn’t called up before rookie karaoke last year. I think they still qualify in those instances.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by The Best Micah on May 18, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

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