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Eric Chavez has a herniated disk in his back, and the next time his back goes out, his career is likely over.

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he was a real force both offensively and defensively for a couple of years there.

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by Arlington Stadium Legend on May 19, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

that sucks

Not only that, he’s probably going to be in pain for the rest of his life.

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by trza on May 19, 2009 12:49 PM CDT reply actions  

It's not like the old days

I’ve had lots of back work done and feel great. I’m not as mobile and couldn’t swing a bat even if I were younger, though. Whatever they do in there limits you but it’s not as painful as it used to be.

by BoogPowell on May 19, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was one of the guys i only disliked because he was a good player against the rangers.

nothing swisher-like against him.

hope he doesn’t have big problems after his career.

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by DShep on May 19, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions  

that sucks man

he should hang em up if he’s facing spinal fusion surgery. not worth it.

btw, if the disk is already herniated, what do they mean “when it finally goes out”. It’s out already.

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by SteveP on May 19, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions  

it could do much more damage

I think it can burst open, draining all of the fluid, which would be really bad…and it could also bust further out and really hit the nerve hard, causing immense pain/paralysis.

I have dealt with 2 bulging discs, degeneration and arthritis for 5 years now – at the ripe age of 28 here – and it SUCKS. I have tried a lot, and surgery is not an alternative for another 5 years at least. It’s spread to my neck, and that locks up frequently now. Nothing is worse. I feel like asking somebody to take a sledgehammer to my back

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah, i'm familiar with back pain

article is a bit confusing.

i ruptured (herniated) my L5/S1 disc about 4 years ago swinging a bat. pain went away after a couple of weeks, but I lost all the strength in my right leg. couldn’t stand in my tip toes or antyhing. pretty freaky actually. but since i was pain free i figured i just needed to train. ended up aggravating my back to the point that i couldn’t stand up for more than 30 seconds without collapsing from pain. try living like that. luckily, the cortisone epidural i got worked. and now i’ve found the right combination of drugs to manage it. but i’ve also learned what i can and cannot do. swinging a bat more than 10 times or so is simply undoable for me. the fusion procedure is a last resort.

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by SteveP on May 19, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

so would you recommend the cortisone epidural?

what was that like?

and what kind of meds do you take? I have tons of Hydrocodone, but I don’t like it because it keeps me awake…and I have Skelaxin muscle relaxants and Naproxin.

It gets so bad for me that I take out a 10 pound weight and lay on it with all the pressure on certain points in my back to relieve the pain/pressure. Probably not smart, but it’s like a really intense massage. And I sleep on the floor 1 or 2 times every week to straighten things out.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure if it's a cortisone epidural

But I got a cortisone injection in my neck for a herniated disk (scared the hell out of me – needle through my trap muscle to inject my neck). Had that 3-4 years ago and it’s been great. Things are acting up again after I started working out again so I might need another. Seems to really work.

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by WyoRanger on May 19, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

man I just looked up a bunch of stuff on my problems

and I have too many possibilities: Brachial Plexus/Thoracic Outlet; Teres Minor; Rhomboids; Trapezius; Vevator Scapulae; Infraspinatus all for the neck problems, anyways

Looks like I need to overload with ibuprofen and start some stretching techniques. My personal trainer’s gonna get a pay raise, too.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've got a C level herniation

And the injection really worked. My herniation is huge but I have an unusually large spinal column otherwise I’d be screwed. In fact, my neurologist asked if he could show my films to the other neorologist in the office since he found the herniation interesting. But, like I said, the cortisone injection straight into my neck really worked well.

Basically, a radiologist sets up an x-ray machine so he can follow the needle towards the vertebrae and just does the injection. He said he does this every year or two for his mother-in-law. Works well.

I was to the point that I had to sleep sitting up (if I could), fingers and arm were tingling, etc. Sucks.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on May 19, 2009 3:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

what is it supposed to do?

shrink the inflammation, push the herniation? I don’t understand how it works for a herniated disc…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

cortisone

is a steroid, which is a strong antinflamatory. It will shrink the swelling nerve. Not usually recommended unless signs of a pinched nerve exist. For my case, it was the loss of strength in my leg.

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 19, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup

Just a steroid to shrink up the bulge. I disagree that it shrinks the nerve – instead it shrinks the disk impinging the nerve.

I’ll agree that it is a significant procedure (characterized as outpatient surgery) and it’s pretty goddamn freaky with some pain and a giant needle but it was well worth it for me. If I start feeling too much worse I’m definitely getting another one. Like I said, it’s lasted 3-4 years. Hell of a lot better than regular therapy or surgery (which i won’t do as long as this thing keeps working). Just talk to your neurologist about it and have him recommend a good radiologist.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on May 19, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

there's no procedure

to shrink the disk, other than going in and cutting it out, which is sometimes done for a rupture. otherwise the ruptured portion of the disk eventually breaks off and eventually absorbed by the body. the cortisone is for the inflamed nerves.

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by SteveP on May 19, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

the injection is a fairly significant procedure. Not pleasant at all for me. They kind of probed around with the needle to make sure they were in the right place. When that needle hits a nerve it feels like you’re being electrocuted. it’s over really quick, but i’m trying to keep from even having to do that again.

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by SteveP on May 19, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

if your back gets into a cycle

where the bulging or herniated disc is irritating a nerve, which makes the nerve swell, increasing the pressure on the nerve from the disc, which further irritates the nerve, etc, etc, etc, then the epidural can break that cycle. It worked for me immediately. However, you can only do this so many times during your life. Now I try to recognize when I may be irritating a nerve and immidiately try to take it easy and pop my prescription anti-inflamatory meds called Etodolac. That along with a vicodin will completely relax me. It’s worked so far. I can’t take muscle relaxers b/c they mess with my for nearly 30 hours straight.

Physical therapy was a bust for me as well. I already stay pretty active and am in decent shape, but they go way too far with all the stretching in my opinion. I’ll try to routinely stretch my hamstrings, but don’t go overboard with the stretching. The etodolac has really worked for me. You might mention it to your doc.

Oh, also I got a 4 inch memory foam topper from overstock for my bed. Takes some getting used to, but it has kept me from waking up with back pain in the mornings.

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 19, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never tried Vicodin. I'll have to ask for that and Etodolac

I think I need MORE stretching, but my personal trainer says don’t stretch at all … instead, strengthen. A muscle that needs stretching is weak, and only strengthening it will keep that from happening. But I think my whole body is tight. I also have Plantar Fascitis (I’ve had several cortisone shots in the foot, and a few years ago they did a procedure on the left heel that killed 3 nerves. It was worse than what I’ve seen described on here for the neck procedure. They actually spent an hour digging around with a giant needle, without any local, asking me, “OK is this what hurts the most? Or this?” I wanted to punch-puke all over that doctor. But now it’s surprisingly less painful than the right heel. I can still feel that it’s too tight though…and it SHOULD be painful…which is weird.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Best of luck to him

I enjoyed watching him play, except against the Rangers of course.

by ronoroz on May 19, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

I respect him trying to keep on playing

But he isn’t helping his team by playing through the pain and he is risking living the rest of his life in pain. His injuries have prevented him from coming anywhere close to playing a full season for the past few years and that isn’t going to improve anytime soon.

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by Gdawg on May 19, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Sorry to hear it

No matter the talent, a disabling injury can definitely end it for any player. Hate to hear Chavvy has hit that crucial spot, and hope it doesn’t impair him for a lifetime.

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by Ed Coffin on May 19, 2009 1:49 PM CDT reply actions  

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