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by Adam J. Morris on May 19, 2009 8:30 PM CDT
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PrintThere's going to be talk tomorrow about what a great outing Dontrelle Willis had and how the D-Train is back.
The reality is, though, that he faced the perfect opponent...a lefty-heavy lineup of hackers who would rather chase pitches a foot out of the strike zone than wait Willis out and make him throw strikes.
I can't wait for this series to be over.
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Do we get Wandy?
Please God tell me we miss Wandy.
No Wandy or Oswalt
Wandy’s pitching tomorrow, Oswalt Thursday.
I'm not even all that worried about Oswalt
Wandy and his lethal combination of left handedness, bendy stuff and being good would rape this team.
Of those things
the being good is probably the least important. Left handed and bendy is probably enough.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Medusa news
I saw her today. She was eating lunch in the food court at the Plaza of the Americas in downtown Dallas.
She’s so freaky in person. I would say I was worried that she saw me staring, but I couldn’t have been the only one.
This team sucks!
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on May 19, 2009 8:33 PM CDT reply actions
Credit McCarthy with a rather mediocre 46 Game Score tonight
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Game Score
Game Score is a metric devised by Bill James to determine the strength of a pitcher in any particular baseball game. To determine a starting pitcher’s game score:
Start with 50 points.
Add 1 point for each out recorded, so 3 points for every complete inning pitched.
Add 2 points for each inning completed after the 4th.
Add 1 point for each strikeout.
Subtract 2 points for each hit allowed.
Subtract 4 points for each earned run allowed.
Subtract 2 points for each unearned run allowed.
Subtract 1 point for each walk.
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Brandon McCarthy had a 46 tonight.
Matt Holland had a 76 last week v. Seattle.
Scott Feldman had (I believe) a 65 v. the Angels on Sunday.
Has flaws but a nice stat.
Significant because the Rangers will typically win 70-75% of the games where their starting pitcher has a Game Score of 50+.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Prime example
of Freudian slip.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
thanks for the explanation
I was not aware it was one of Bill James stats…I’ve seen it at the bottom of the box score on ESPN.com for a while, but thanks again for the clarification.
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
His game score could have been a lot better
and it would not have mattered…..gotta score to win.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on May 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
you know, I used to look forward to BMac's starts the most
and now he’s the pitcher I’d least like to see on that day’s probables. I didn’t get to see a lot of the game, but 12 baserunners in 7 innings? Sounds like he was flirting with disaster quite a bit throughout this one. When is his turn for the 8IP, 4H, 0BB 0ER start that everyone else on the staff has enjoyed at one time or another this season?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
opposite
i will always take a seven inning start from a guy who is arguably our fifth starter. we will will as many games as we lose with a start like that.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
especially when we are facing
a decent lineup. i know many of us have forgotten what it looks like to face a lineup that doesnt consist of washed up veterans and AAAA players, but they exist, and we’ll have to pitch to them.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Well, I'd fell OK if I thought BMac was going to be a number 5 his whole career
but shouldn’t he turn a corner at some point and live up to his potential? Isn’t he projected as more of a 3rd started kind of pitcher? I’m just getting frustrated with the guy…maybe I’m waiting for him to develop into something he’s never going to be?
"Does this effectively hide my thunder?"
It's been 6 starts
It’s been 6 fucking starts.
And funnily, he leads the starting staff in strikeouts.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
He'd look great in the bullpen (especially if it meant Holland moved to the rotation)
kind of a latter day Gerald Alexander.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 19, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
loser
i think the implication is that holland has upside whereas b-mac has none
by sam in so cal on May 20, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions
Well that's just ridiculous
of course he has upside.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 20, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions
Upside
He has reached his upside. His downside is that he becomes a AAAA player
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Hes reached his upside?
really?
You’re an idiot
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He's only 25
you think there’s no way a 25 year old can improve?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 20, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
Nope
He always has given long balls and always will. He is soft like Shawn Bradley.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Thats your argument?
Wow
I mean really….Wow
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yup
Just watch him pitch, listen to him after a bad start. The dude is super soft. i can’t wait until he is 30 and you guys can’t hide behind his age.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Think of Bmac
like you think of Todd Van Poppel.
Overhyped, soft, didn’t get better with time, plenty of long balls, and couldn’t get through the tough inning.
BMac sucks!
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
wow
that is a new level of stupid
simultaneously, people bitching about mccarthy giving up 3 ERs in 7 innings is pretty stupid too
Why?
Do people take up for BMac? He is not good. Last night he wasn’t that bad, but that was a good game for him. It get under my skin that every time anybody says anything bad about BMac that they are labeled STUPID. He has got nothing at all. A big bag of suck. You are freaking crazy if you ever think we will be able to count on the guy for anything important!
I would rather have a fresh kid learning to pitch in his spot in the rotation. That way we could get a jump on the future. We might be better off now as well. He goes all soft once every couple of games and torches our bullpen because he can’t nut up and get through a bad inning.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Because most people in here want or think
he can be as good as John Danks.
It’s never going to happen.
Danks is one of the better young arms in MLB and McCarthy is a 5th starter/long relieve type and it’s time, especially for JD to accept this and move forward.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
if hes a 5th starter
Who goes out and puts up a 3.85 ERA and averages 7 innings a start then this thing is in pretty damn good shape.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Well
I don’t hang on to the Danks thoughts. If all he is a 5th starter then he is blocking the future.
Parcells would call him a progress blocker.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
It
just amazes me how everyone assumes that every 25 year old pitcher will get better. When there are so many that don’t.
And most of them were young overhyped righties.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
What makes you think any of our young pitching prospects will ever sniff a sub 4 ERA
Im all for giving our young guys a chance if theres a spot for them to do so. Whether it be open due to injury or poor performance but to want to toss a guy like McCarthy to the curb in the hopes that a Holland or feliz can match or exceed him is crazy in my opinion.
In 2007 he had a pretty nice season, injuries withstanding. I look at it as he had a 3.54 ERA over 101.2 innings. Its amazing how those 3 horrible starts in April skewed his numbers.
Then a 4.09 ERA in 2008 albeit in a short sample due to injuries again.
So yeah i think he can, if healthy, give us a season with an ERA under 4 regardless of how many home runs he gives up. The guy is a pretty good pitcher.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Hypothetical
It’s August 1st. Both Feliz and Holland continue to be effective in their respective roles. BMac is still the 5th best starter on the club, sporting a 5.50ish ERA. Do you switch out BMac for Holland then?
PhD
Yes
I do it regardless of his ERA. Because in August is when you really need pitchers that can help save your bullpen and BMac is just the opposite of that. Rather have Sheets or Feliz flame out after 5 innings than BMac
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Ignorant doesnt even begin to describe you
So even if he is doing good, he will suck and should be replaced…wow, that is amazing
remember when Harrison supposedly sucked and everyone said he should be shipped out
im guessing you were one of those jackasses?
Nope
Harrison gets some rope with me. He is made to pitch in this park. BMac needs to be pitching in SF, LAD, or SD so all those freaking flyballs dont leave the yard.
BMac has a large enough sample size at this point to start thinking about cutting bait.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
If thats his ERA then probably
Thats assuming Holland has shown progress out of the pen and went down to AAA to stretch out for a couple weeks.
But I highly doubt BMac is going to be a 5.50 ERA pitcher. And if he has stayed healthy all year and is around 4.50 or lower come that time, which is what i think he’ll be, then no I don’t think you replace him with Holland.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Why?
because he doesn’t have a track record of that or something?
In the minors he had never, NEVER, had an ERA above 3.92 for a full season.
And in the majors his ERAs as a starter have been 4.03, 3.54*, and 4.09 until this year.
If he stays healthy there is plenty of evidence to think he can be sub 4.50 ERA
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
for the record
His ERA is currently 5.60
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Yep
Which is why im not predicting he will get it down to around 4 by August 1st.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He's 9-13
with a career 4.96 ERA as a Ranger in 35 starts.
The Rangers are 15-20 when he’s the starter.
Brandon McCarthy drips mediocrity and now we have options.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 20, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
FIP is 6.02
So according to the conventional wisdom, he is very lucky to have that 5.60 ERA.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Not really
1. Having a good defense behind you isn’t something a pitcher can control, but its also something a pitcher isn’t likely to lose when they stay on the same team. If he’s able to beat his FIP by 50 points thanks to the defense behind him, that isn’t a guarantee his ERA will end up matching it.
2. He currently has a 14.5 HR/FB% which has led to a 2.00 HR/9. If that goes down, his FIP will look a lot better. He is also sporting the 3rd best K/BB ratio on the team (a little behind Harrison) with by far the highest K rate on the Rangers starting staff.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
lol
I’m not sure what those three ERA’s are from. But the only that wasn’t a SSS as a starter he did have a respectable ERA of 4.87. What’s funny to me is that you left that one out, when it’s really the only only you should use.
Well
4.03 was in 2005 as a 21 year old in 67 innings following up almost 120 innings of 3.92 ERA in AAA.
4.09 was last year in only 22 innings due to injury
The 3.54 was what I believe he had in 2007 considering how badly that 3 start stretch in April skewed his numbers (which even with those it was a respectable 4.87). 18 ER in 6 innings will inflate a pitchers numbers over the course of an entire season no matter how many innings you pitch.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
No not cropping numbers to my liking
Merely stating a fact. 6 IP and 3 ER equals a 4.50 ERA.
If a pitcher pitches 200 innings with a 4.50 ERA that would be considered pretty good right? If in one of those outtings he gave up 18 ER in 6 innings and still ended the year with a 4.50 ERA that would be good also right? Take away 15 of those runs (which still leaves you 3 ER in 6 innings) and the ERA for the entire year drops from 4.50 to 3.83. Thats over 200 innings.
Now when we are talking only 100 innings like BMac was able to pitch in 2007 due to injuries and the difference is even more drastic. I merely took away 15 runs and his ERA dropped to 3.54.
So even if you split the difference between his final numbers of 4.87 and what I view him as (3.54) you still get about a 4.20 ERA pitcher.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
McCarthy failed to reach THE 6th inning
13 of 22 starts.
But since were adding and subtracting numbers to help make our argument. I’m gonna subtract McCarthy’s last start of 2007. McCarthy had an ERA of *5.07 in 2007.
The fact you can't see that a 6 inning 18 ER performance skews a pitchers numbers tells me all I need to know about you
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If it was just 1 start
I would be inclined to view it as an outlier and would be more willing to ignore it. But since those 6 innings and 18 ER’s were spread over 3 starts, and the fact that 27% of McCarthy’s starts resulted in outings of less than 4 innings pitched with 3 earned runs allowed or more.
Conclusion: I don’t feel the numbers you are cropping as outliers.
Also he pitched so well down the stretch in 2007
If he pitches like that this team will win alot of ball games. Well from May 25th to Sep. 20th, McCarthy recorded 1 W. His efforts are uninspiring. Watching him struggle to get to 6 innings over and over wears the team down.
Really
Why are we wasting our time with BMac? The Rangers are in first and BMac will be with someother team in within two years.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
Its amazing to me
that folks want to whine about BMac after a 7Inning, 3 ER performance. If he truly sucks, you will have plenty of bad games to whine about him.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
What amazes me
Is that BMac and Holland were pretty similar pitchers in the minors except BMac was younger when he was down there. And as a starter he has had ERAs right around 4 every year except this one and yet people want to toss him away thinking they can find guys like that anywhere. If hes healthy he is going to help this club win alot of ballgames.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
probably because
he pitches mor elike a #4 than a #2 or #3 that we were led to believe
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Since spurdynasty doesn't seem to be around
I’ll go ahead and say it: guys often don’t reach their full potential. That is why it is called “potential” and not “destiny”
Recognizing players for who they are instead of who they could have been is a critical aspect of running a ballclub. Sticking with guys who “could have been a #2,” hoping that they return to their previous prospecty-ness, is dangerous. For you poker players – even pocket Aces see bad flops somtimes.
PhD
You still play the pocket aces until someone gets a better hand
When a better option than McCarthy comes along, you can look at replacing him. Until then, you stick with him in the rotation and continue to let things play out. And Holland is not the better option right now. He’s doing a great job of developing out of the bullpen, I hope the Rangers continue to let him do that.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Similar?
Holland fireball lefty. BMac flyball righty.
BMac stuff doesn’t translate to big league hitters. Which is why he tries to nibble. When he doesn’t nibble it turns into a HR Derby.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
The problem
is that sometimes you have 3 runs in 7 inning starts that bode well for the future (the typical Millwood start, where at the end of 7 you look up and the other team has 3 runs on the board). And other times you have 3 runs in 7 inning starts that are kind of scary. His start yesterday was very nearly something like 7 runs in 3 innings. He gave up a lot of baserunners early, and while it is commendable that he was able to minimize the damage and then settle down, he still got into those difficult situations.
PhD
BMac
We’re “wasting our time” with him because he’s a 25-year-old starter, and the alternative is putting Kris Benson in the rotation.
Holland’s not ready to pitch 6-7 innings every fifth day as a starter. McCarthy is.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Wasting time
was in reference to spending time bitching about him. Not to having Kris Benson in the rotation
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions
I start stretching out Holland right now
and would love for him to be in the rotation by early June.
McCarthy is what he is and I don’t see him getting better or worse for that matter.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 20, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
Gold Star
Give one to BMac he FINALLY made it through the 7th inning. This is such a great milestone for such and up and coming star. I wish all of our picthers could make it through the 7th just once this year. OOPS most of them already have! BMac is weak.
His numbers are hollow and you know it.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
People are overly sensitive to certain players
I’m confident that BMac could be better than what he’s been, though I’m generally wary about his chances of achieving that potential soon enough for him to keep his rotation spot.
I’d certainly never call someone stupid for thinking BMac won’t be anything more than this. You see stupid things mentioned around here all the time, saying that BMac is best suited for the bullpen isn’t one of them.
PhD
True.
But the guy can’t even decide whether he throws a curve. You have to admit, it’s been sort of frustrating to watch.
Still, they need to keep running him out there every five days.
you think that curve BS came from him?
…really?
you think he said “no thanks, im not gonna throw this curve”
i seriously doubt that was his idea
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I meant it more in the abstract sense.
The point is that he doesn’t even have a steady repertoire, 8 starts into the season.
I have no idea which Rangers personnel is fucking with his stuff now, but I hope whatever they’re doing starts working.
Semantics
not even 50 IP yet.
If he gets command of the changeup, it’s a new ballgame.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
but shouldn’t he turn a corner at some point and live up to his potential? Isn’t he projected as more of a 3rd started kind of pitcher? I’m just getting frustrated with the guy…maybe I’m waiting for him to develop into something he’s never going to be?
potential is why its worth it to wait
its not like hes got a 0 era out there
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
9 era*
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:38 PM CDT up reply actions
iiwii: Brandon McCarthy
I think he is someone who cannot consistently get all of his pitches working at the same time. At some point he has to convert his potential into results. How long does JD keep waiting before he swaps BMac and Holland?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
He got it over consistantly before
I’m not sure why we shouldn’t expect him to do it again.
Righties are hitting about .220 off of him. If he gets his changeup, that will limit lefties. And suddenly, that’s pretty great pitcher
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
When did he have consistent command of his change?
2005? 2006?
That’s when he had great command of his fastball, and a plus curve, too, right?
I’m not at all confident he’s going to find it again. I’m not saying he won’t, but I don’t know that it should be expected.
2005
and yeah, he might never find it, but he’s show flashes of having command of it. It’s about getting him more work.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I agree about getting him more work.
I wonder how much of this is in his head at this point, and how much of it’s physical ~ and how much of either/both can be ameliorated.
He’s still a couple months shy of 26, though, and I have hope. It’s just frustrating to watch. And I am fearful that he won’t ever find his stuff and reach his ceiling, whatever that may now be.
yes.
healthy = good for McCarthy right now…we have to take what we can get. I believe after it’s all said and done, he’s a 4.50 ERA pitcher in our ballpark, and if he can keep going more and more innings, we’ll see some good stuff out of him. sadly, not top of the rotation stuff, though…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
And also Swing-and-miss % too.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
He just needs to throw
one of his non-fastball pitches over for a strike
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
back to back 7 inning performances
when he’s never gone 7 for us in the past is something to build on and smile about, forgetting the fact that our offense didn’t do SHIT for him. But he’s got to build on that.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 19, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think it really matters which side they where swinging from
The fact is, our offense sucks balls at taking pitches and working counts, much less taking enough pitches to walk. Facing our lineup is the perfect tonic for a guy like Willis who has struggled with his control for the last couple years.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
I'm just glad
We’re talking about how much our hitting sucks and not our pitching. It really is a nice change.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Great point. I still feel sick though.
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:41 PM CDT up reply actions
i'm not sure i get this item...
I can’t wait for this series to be over.
if we have a team full of hitters who hack at shit pitches, then this problem is bigger than one series.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on May 19, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
true that.
as the ever spare Greg Hill would say, “Don’t let the smooth taste fool you”.
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on May 19, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I can't believe I feel this depressed
And yet we have the second best record in the league.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Two 1 hit games in a row into the 7th will do that to anyone I suppose.
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
i555, i think i got it nailed down
i can handle being beaten, its when the teams seems to let the bad guys off easy sumhow and we lose, thats when i get a little pissy.
I kinda think if half those guys woulda left their bat on their shoulder NL pitcher batting style, Dontrell woulda walked 8+. Instead he strikes out 35….
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Lefty heavy lineup?
I thought we only had two lefties in there tonight?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
How much you want to bet
that the sportscenter anchor tonight will use the line: “the D-Train is back on track?”
That's why they call them business sox
Screw ESPN, I almost feel like the Cowboys just lost.
I don’t watch sports channels for 2 days after they lose.
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
McCarthy
I was pretty impressed tonight. The third inning was really the only inning I thought he looked bad. Alot of baserunners but I personally don’t get as riled about those as most. He induced alot more groundballs than normal which is a good sign and his curve showed glimpses of a lethal pitch. He needs to get some consistency on it but if he does it is a real nice pitch.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Little did we know
The game was over when BMac threw badly to 2nd. I have this irrational, unreasonable fury when a pitcher makes a throwing error (BMac, Christopher John, are you reading?)
It’s beyond my comprehension that guys who make their living throwing the ball can’t make a throw to a base, with the fielder securely on the base ready to make a putout. Does not compute. I guess it’s pure intolerance of things that don’t work (I am in that category).
Yes the lineup failed to hit. Only the double and the deep out to right by MY were tagged, and four guys whiffed on ball three or ball four – bad patience. Oh well, yes I know – it’s only one loss to break a streak, so way too much focus was filling my living room about a pitcher throwing a sure out and possible double play away.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
See I am alot more understanding of a pitcher doing it than a positional player
A pitcher is always throwing from a certain motion down an angled plane at full velocity. When that same person has to make a throw on flat ground from a unique set/motion and not at full force with a predetermined grip I can see where errors occur.
Not saying it excuses it in anyway but only that it doesn’t raise my blood pressure the way it obviously does you and others.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yep it's a hot spot
Because it has happend so inordinately much to the Rangers over the years. Not every pitcher is a Kenny Rogers with the glove, and not all are athletic as Padilla, but even the athletic types who have played other positions (like CJ) seem vulnerable to it. Reducing pitcher and catcher misplays was #2 or #3 on the defense correction list, right after fixing the left side of the infield. The LF dilemma was solved earlier on. And the flat ground logic is true, logically, but pitchers always throw on flat ground coming off rehab and prior to getting on the mound in the bullpen (starters not so much). But yes, Steve, I have a burn for all defensive skills, and pitcher throwing errors are my current rage – LOL – and I did say it’s irrational.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 19, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
wasn't Bmac's throwing error the first
committed by a pitcher this year? The error didn’t bug me too much after considering this stat. Correct me if I’m wrong.
that was Brandon's error for sure...
but didn’t it look to you like Elvis could’ve/should’ve had that?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
It was down and away from the direction he was moving. If he was able to dead stop, then stretch, he might have got the out. Didn’t happen that way though, Elvis was committed to picking and throwing for the DP.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 20, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
i can't believe
we just got one hit by Dontrelle Willis and a shitty Detroit bullpen and everyone here is complaining because a pitcher who gave us NOTHING the past two season went seven innings and gave up four runs and NO HOME RUNS. Let’s place blame where its due, people…our hitters had more business showing up at a gyno appointment than a ballpark tonight.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on May 19, 2009 8:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Lyon is awful, Seay is suspect.
And Rodney is capable of the occaisonal meltdown. Most everyone else is pretty darn good.
Overall, I’d say it’s a slightly above average ’pen.
Thought they pitched real well too...
I was impressed. Rodney damn near destroyed Andrus’ year almost hitting the top of his hand in the 9th. We got real lucky.
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Not shitty
But still fairly mediocre. 19th in the majors in ERA, 17th in FIP.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
They only had to pitch 1 and 2/3 innings and not allow 4 runs
I’m not including Zumaya’s beast of an inning.
that's the first game
anyone flashed 100 on us…
this team sucks
trade the all for some magic beans
I feel better now.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Shakespeare?
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
What's grossier than gross?
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Equal amount of hits to errors.
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:49 PM CDT up reply actions
This offense
is a real roller coaster at times. Oh well, on to the next game.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Disagreed
D-Train was around the plate all night. Yeah, the Rangers gave him a few more strikeouts and a more patient team might have picked up another hit or two, but Dontrelle was on tonight. Give credit where credit is due.
stupid tv season being over.
i need something good to watch after a loss like that.
the preceding post was a great success.
Basketball?
Mariners-Angels?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
i can't stand watching the non-mavericks basketball until the final 5 minutes
actually, i’d probably just extend that to final quarter for the mavs.
mariners-angels maybe, i did just get mlb.tv the other day.
the preceding post was a great success.
nvm
hudler broadcast tonight.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
If you have mlb.tv premium you can watch Niehaus instead
I’m stuck watching Hudler on TV because I’m in the Angels’ TV market area
Same here. BBall just doesn't entertain me until the final few minutes
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:56 PM CDT up reply actions
im watching TB-OAK
good game — in 11th
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Yay, Felix disappoints EVERYONE
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
im watching now
not showing a ton
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Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Second inning better than the first: 12 pitches, 1 hit, another K.
Mariners down 1 after the Griffery solo shot.
the seattle announcers are horrible
im going to have go to the gasp angels feed*
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Can Hernandez protect the Mariners' lead?
3-2 heading into the 3rd after a two-run dinger by Ronny Cedeno (?!).
Well harrison is pitching tomorrow.
I feel a little better now. That is all I say I don’t wanna jinx him.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
vs Verlander too. Ugh
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:55 PM CDT up reply actions
the jekyll and hyde
Ranger offense will probably strikeout 12 times but score 6 runs against him. Lets hope the pitching shows up tomorrow.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
True that but which pitchers in MLB
have done better in their last 4 starts than Matt Harrison?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I actually feel great about tomorrow.
We’re going to win. Count on it.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
15 K's
For JV, is my prediction. Who knows who wins, I’d be surprised if more than two runs are scored for both teams combined.
You know, I'd actually take the over.
Usually he has an assload of pitches by the 6th or 7th and forces Leyland to take him out while dominating, but against this team he actually has a decent shot at going 8+.
Do you think Hamilton will play?
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 8:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe.
“It’s just sore,” Hamilton said Tuesday afternoon. “It feels better than yesterday, so that’s a good sign. I’d like to play tomorrow, but we’ll see.”
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
DH?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions
and thats horrible?
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Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:16 PM CDT up reply actions
its a pretty bad matchup for him
good righty heavy lineup. if he shuts them down ill really believe..
the preceding post was a great success.
Very nice!
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 19, 2009 9:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Cripes.
Who started?
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
outman vs shields
outman threw 6 ip with 6 k/1bb, 3 hits
shields threw 8.1 ip with 5 k, 2 bb, 4 hits
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
good looking game
nice call by the TB manager to burn howell to face the a’s #9 hitter…i think howell threw one pitch, got a broken bad 6-3 and was done
lol
again, the OAKLAND A’s #9 hitter
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions
picke it up with his last AB (cunningham)
and announcers said “howell on to face only one batter, the a’s #9 hitter”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
completely wrong
howell threw 2 ip, just to one hitter this inning
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
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Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:08 PM CDT up reply actions
mlb.tv
i may never get anything else done lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
in other news
the nats just gave up 2 runs in top of 10. nice
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions
In other other news:
LA Clippers got the first pick and I’m disappointed, because that now means that any chance Blake had to be good just got flushed away.
by brettgardner on May 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
or any reason that i would have to go see the wizards
just went out the window
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KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm so glad
They didn’t get anything special (Griffin or Rubio). I want to see those guys thrive in a better place. Chad Ford has Memphis taking Thabeet over Rubio and pushing Harden down to Washington. I’m sure they’d be quite pleased with that.
by brettgardner on May 19, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions
I just hope Rubio
doesn’t go to OKC. Rubio/Westbrook/Durant/Green/(can’t remember their 5, doesn’t matter) is not good for the Mavs.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
holliday with a looooooooooooong bomb
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
nice
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Feisty Hillmans tied game with 3 in the 9th
and gamewinning run is on 2nd with one out.
Eric Wedge, that’s a fork in your managerial ass.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
No way they fire Shapiro
he’s one of the superstar GMs in the game.
Wedge does not.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
shapiro is good
very good
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Anyone who gets Carlos Santana
for Casey Blake deserves all sorts of props
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
to be fair
santana wasnt nearly as highly regared before last year
also they have a ton of near-ML read catchers
vic martinez, shoppach, santana
read the other day they almost sent vic martinez to BOS for clay buchottz and friends
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions
When they traded for Santana
he was on fire. And they got Meloan in that deal too.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
hey i agree with you
meloan is GOOD
santana is GOOD
casey blake is meh
and they had dewitt already there
meloan has a career 11.1 k/9 and 4.2 bb/9
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions
this makes me believe
that we should trade with Ned Colleti this year.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
fwiw they also made him a starter last year
a starter!!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
he's smooth
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
damnit
ruined it for me in the HD feed lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Ronny Cedeno homered?
It is truly the apocalypse.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 19, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions
wow i JUST NOW saw the cedeno HR
4+ min later
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
roy halliday would need to average 16 wins for 11 more years to reach 300 wins…WOW
as a side note, there is no one i want to get to 300 wins more than jamey moyer
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
no way Moyer gets to 300
He would have to pitch until he was 52 or so. Dang…. I am only 2 months older than he is.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
i can hope!!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions
i cant handle the SEA announcers anymore
they are BEYOND horrible
soooo mchhhhhh deadd spaceeeeee
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
and now i get to hear the angels announcers
talk about the rangersl osing to dontrelle
wonderful
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:54 PM CDT up reply actions
That's the problem
the Angels tend to fill the dead space with stupid.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
ill take it over the mariners
i can tune out random shit, but when theres nothing said, theres nothing to tune out
and its monotone as hell
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions
The Angels TV announcers
make me wish Hawk Harrelson was announcing their games.
I’m mad because I can pick up their radio broadcasts sometimes here in SD, and for some unknown reason, they have Hudler come on occassionally as the color man. Normally, I like the Angels radio guys. But Hudler wants me to crash my car into freeway barriers.
PhD
When you listen to them for awhile
You begin to understand why the minds of the guys at LL wander so easily and so far.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
is there any solution for this damn HD lag
on mlb.tv
also, this angels feed is wack. they play the “background noises/music” and its up about 50% louder than the announcers
i think im going back to the freaking sea feed lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
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Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
no
The only way to get rid of the lag is to not use nexdef… but then you don’t get the HD picture quality. You do, however, free up RAM and you still get to choose which feed you see.
have yo uninstalled it?
/is it worth it?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
I haven't gotten around to uninstalling it yet because I'm lazy
I just have it turned off in mlb.tv (you can do that with the slider that adjusts picture quality). The HD lag is there even if your nexdef works perfectly. Mine doesn’t work perfectly… always sticking and giving me the “if your video is choppy turn down your picture quality” message. Some people have the same problems, others don’t.
Felix
is 23 years old. How crazy is that?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
he's had to have
at least 3 years of service time right?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Hmm
so how much do you pay for King Felix in 2 years?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
whatever it takes
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd like to see him be a Ranger
it’s your job to recruit him in WBC 2012 Elvis
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
i would kill for this
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
and that one FA sure failed in texas, right? lol
sorry, but spending a lot of money for a truly top 5 player is one place where its worth it
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Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
if arod came on the market again at that point in time
i think he would still do it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
And just not trade him this time ~ or what?
I enjoyed Rodriguez’s on-the-field performance with the Rangers, but taken as a whole, do you think Hicks was happy with how things turned out?
how could he not be
go back and look at arods stats as a ranger
how many ppl do you think came to see arod?
arod is a guy that can sell tickets…hamilton is a guy that can sell tickets
there arent many players out there who are…but arod is near the top of the list
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Because he only had him for three seasons,
didn’t get much in return, and is still paying for him.
And the Rangers’ attendance in 2002 and 2003 wasn’t especially good, and didn’t spike much from 2000 to 2001.
how is he still paying for him?
deferred money?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Hicks owes $3 million this year and next.
Same as in 2008. Plus the earlier money paid. Plus the salary while in Texas.
owed $6M total
from Cots
Texas obligated to fund $9M as part of deferred compensation provision in previous contract (to be paid with interest in $3M increments in 2008, 2009 & 2010)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
I'm not even looking it up
but didn’t Ranger attendance go to 34,000+ (up 3000 per game) in 2001?
It went down to 25,000+ in 2003 but initially, attendance went up.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 19, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
i think he may stay with the mariners
call me crazy….
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
he’ll most likely sign an extension as well.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
i think you can draw a pretty a pretty interesting line
between lebron and felix hernandez in their respective sports
also, is his agent boras?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Knew it started with an A
excellent name, btw.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
the mariners shot just of keeping him went way up
lol
but really, i think he stays there
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
he has 43 wins...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Speaking of 300 games
this might be the guy.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
could end up pretty far on k's list too...
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
wow
smooth one torii
wtf
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Hernandez now at 62 pitches through 3 innings.
Can’t see him posting the complete game, tonight, can you?
heh with that bullpen you never know
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
How is it that team always work counts
and our batters think it is a sin to see more than 4 pitches
all the damn angels do is foul off 8 pitches every ab
I have no idea
why so many Rangers are so hacktastic this year.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Because everyone has put it in there head, that they are awesome hitters
That 1st seriers against the Indians fucked us.
Well, just looking at the teams P/PA from this year and last year
The four guys who lead the team last year in P/PA where Salty (4.36), Brandon Boggs (4.33), Ramon Vazquez (4.29) and Milton Bradley (3.99). Everyone else was either very close to or below league average, which was 3.80.
Bradley and Vazquez are of course long gone, Boggs is in AAA, and Salty, while his P/PA is still 4.03 this year, isn’t really walking. In the meantime, Blalock is back in the lineup full time (fun but meaningless fact: the last time the Rangers had a team P/PA this low [3.78] was 2006, Blalock’s last full season) and both Michael Young and Marlon Byrd have seen their P/PA’s drop by 20 points from last year so far. Plus you’ve got Elvis Andrus added to the mix, who isn’t seeing a whole lot of pitches himself, despite how surprisingly good he’s been offensively so far.
Despite that however, nobody that got significant playing time last year besides Young and Byrd has really regressed notably in the P/PA department. Salty has dropped by 20 points too, but his P/PA is still pretty respectable. But other than them, not much has changed among the core guys (in fact, Kinsler and Cruz have notably improved this year in P/PA).
But anyway, bottom line: going by P/PA the key guys to blame for our hacktasticness this year are Blalock, Byrd, Andrus and Young. Take that FWIW.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
And I'm not asking Young or Andrus to change their approach
that’s who they are and how they’re successful. Blalock could definitely stand a change, and Byrd shouldn’t be here beyond this season.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Successful or not
Young and Andrus are still about 25 points below the league average (3.54 and 3.53), which is 3.80. Byrd and Blalock are both in the low 3.40’s.
Young is about 12 points below his career average and Andrus as a rookie still needs to learn some more patience.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
Young is hitting
.349/.389/.586, I’m hoping he doesn’t change a damn thing.
Andrus is hitting just fine, he’s not going to be Kevin Youkilis, ever. Leave him alone, enourage some patience, fine, but Andrus is already hitting better than expected. It seems stupid to nitpick.
If you want more patience on the club, then add players who are patient, don’t try to create them out of hitters who are naturally aggressive.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I think P/PA
is a fairly useless stat. I remember when Young used to lead that.
The more important stat is team OBP. Less outs means more work for the pitcher. With only 2 hitters avoiding outs last night (Young and Jones), it let the pitcher last late in the game.
I think the team is impatient and hacktastic, but not because of P/PA, but because of the number of sub-300 OBP guys in the lineup. 300 OBP is putrid. Below that is just absurd.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Well, getting on base and seeing pitches go hand in hand
Three of the top 5 in P/PA (Jones, Kinsler and Cruz) are also top 5 in OBP.
Perhaps more importantly, the top 5 teams in P/PA in the AL have 5 of the top 6 slots in OBP.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
Something about P/PA
It’s similar to counting intercourse without pregnancy. You may get some joy out of it, but it doesn’t lead necessarily to creating a legacy (children, or runs produced)
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 20, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions
and the nominee for worst 3 hole hitter in the AL west
goes to ken griffey jr — wins in a photo finish over michael young
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
No way
Jason Giambi wins in a landslide.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
really?
even with the history we know about FOTF? and the fact that griffey is done?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Check Giambi's stats
it’s hard to hit with a fork in your ass.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Get your own description
I already said Wedge had a fork in his managerial ass after tonight’s debacle in KC within this thread.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 19, 2009 10:20 PM CDT up reply actions
which is my entire point lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
My point's that even as a not-really-three-hole-guy
Young’s still better in the three-hole than Giambi and Griffey.
Considering the 3-hole isn't actually that important
Young might make a pretty good three-hole guy.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
Eh
it’s still important in that you want your best hitters going 1-2-3 to get the most ABs. Young needs to be hitting 2nd and take more pitches
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
my thoughts exactly
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
you want your best starter in the 1-3-4 holes i think
is that what the stat was?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
They did lineup research
and you want a good hitter in #2 as well.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
1-2-4
http://www.beyondtheboxscore.com/2009/3/17/795946/optimizing-your-lineup-by
The 5-spot can be important as #3 as well.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
Giambi is terrible
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
oh man
I could have lived my whole life without seeing that
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
+1
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
THAT
is a world class “pickle suit”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 19, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
looks like a banana hammock
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Michael Young has been pretty good this year
I’m pretty sure most teams would take the 2009 version as their #3 hitter.
PhD
If Denver can steal one of these first two games
I could see this going 7.
Cough this one up tonight, LA wins it in 5.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
i hate LA
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
That was a circus shot by Kobe
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Angels have pegged some other guy who hit a homer
MLBnetwork is all over it.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Wildthing said it looked "suspicious"
but a dude was on. high inside at the face-ish
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
how did i miss it?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions
No way that was on purpose
man on 1st. Tied game
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
who was i? griffey?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
MLB network guys
“What, does every guy who hits a homer against the Angels have to just know they get one in the ribs next AB?”
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
I am holding my friend's bet.
He took LA on the moneyline – $ 75 to win $ 25 and then he took Denver +7 for $ 50.
He’s hoping to middle the spread.
Is it ok to talk about gambling when the Rangers lose?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
because this made me laugh
this is how the empire killed swine flu:
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
This is how the Empire got Swine Flu
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Let me kiss your chin, bitch!!!
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
....
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
I LOL'd.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
I love how he already has glasses on and is putting another pair over them
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If LA wins
I need it to be by more than 7 points or I get it in both ends.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
felix has broken 4 bats tonight
thats pretty damn impressive (through 5 IP) for a right handed pitcher
havent seen that in a long time/ever
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
ive never seen a RHP have this many
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow Lopez
booted that double play ball. Truly a terrible player
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
wow
not expected at all
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
did it skip off the rubber?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
hes not THAT bad
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:51 PM CDT up reply actions
He really is.
Not a great fielder. Doesn’t get on base well. Not much power.
Exactly what does he bring to the table?
GIDP
on the first pitch. Why would you even think about doing that
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Johjima passed ball scores a run, Lopez error turns a 4-6-3 DP into a run scored
Another borken bat ends the inning, but Angels are up 5-4.
The only way tonight could be not a total crappy night for the Rangers is if the Angels lose.
not at all
its like pulling for OU to beat aTm
ill pull for OU every time lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Better than the Angels winning and coming within three games of us
plus, for some reason, I hate the Angels more than the M’s.
Of course,
It’s just not a clear victory anyway you slice it. I want the M’s to win too, but at the same time, that sucks,
i dont hate the m's
unless were plaing them
they are my 2nd fav team in the al west for sure. i like felix a lot….
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I would have to say I'm with you there re: the M's
I’ve been a Rangers fan since 1991 but when the M’s were beating the Rangers in the mid-90s, I wasn’t as much a fan as I am now. Meanwhile, the Angels have been winning the division every year and I’ve been stuck listening to their announcers and dealing with their fans.
I would rather have the M's win
They won’t be there at the end.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Jose Lopez
GIDP with men @ 1 and 3, down 1.
Truly an epically awful player.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
sonofabitch
I take it in both ends tonight from Lakers & Nuggets.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
wow
felix broke ANOTHER bad — thats what up to 6?
sinker at 93-94 mph (kendrick)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Final line for Hernandez:
5.2 IP, 107 pitches, 11H, 6ER, 3Ks, 3BBs, 6 broken bats.
That’s not very good.
SIX BROKEN BATS
ive never seen anyone break that many in one game
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Worse than Brandon Mccarthy, in fact
obviously, Felix needs
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
replaced in the Ms rotation of course
he’s never going to meet his ceiling
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Ah.
This wasn’t addressing me, then, since I’ve now repeatedly stated I think the Rangers should keep running McCarthy out there every five days.
Right?
indeed
just the general feeling that apparently 50 IP is enough to make a decision
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Yeah, I find that impatience as frustrating as McCarthy's inconsistency.
I know I shouldn’t get annoyed with either, but I still do.
Not a fan of
BMac. Wish he would stop being in the suck – average range. Slighty above average would make my day.
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
As Firebat and koking have said,
he’s going to need more work to get to where he needs to be. They’re more optimistic than I am, but they’re right about being patient and hoping he can figure it all out.
wow
nice one m’s
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions
MLBnetwork:
“Starting pitchers over the last 2 decades have been coddled like eggs and these pitchers have failed to make the effort to build their endurance and strength that guys like seaver and nolan and blylevin etc worked so hard to build and maintain. Nolan is forcing pitcher to change their mindset and build their strength and endurance to achieve the success that the greats achieved. Im glad as hell nolan is turning pitching counts on its ear and proving its work ethic and training and preparation”
-Mith Williams
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
paraphrasing of course
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
2 straight starts where barry zito hasnt sucked
6 where he has gone 6ip or more
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
theres still a chance
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Mullet man
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 11:09 PM CDT up reply actions
he looks like a pedophile in that pic
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions
This game is going to be very long
and I need to get some sleep soon.
6-5 Angels heading into the 7th.
yeaaaaaaaaaaaa
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions
Was that a yawn?
If so, I’m feeling it. How can a game featuring 11 runs, 17 hits, and six broken bats be so tedious?
David Sims
and Rex Hudler
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
whoever the m's announders are
i finally put it on the angels HD feed, i can just tune out their guys
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Time for a beer brake
http://obsidian.technolan.com.au/gallery2/d/4621-2/hoffbrau.jpg
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
fwiw
i waited all day to post this in the GDT but no luck
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
"I will now do the native dance of my people"
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
my 2nd favorite TV show
just nosed out by arrested development
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Lets dance
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 11:31 PM CDT up reply actions
bring it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I has already been broughten
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
oops
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 19, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
obey the hypnotoad
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
GOB
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
and i should have started off wtih this one
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Ready?....Okay
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
im sorry, you dont care for arrested development
…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 20, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions
YES!!!
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Move it
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
is there anything you can't do with a computer?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Cowbell?
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Is she old enough for me to
get a little jazzed by this?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 20, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions
only if your into coke whores lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 20, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm sorry you don't like coke whores
…
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions
leela
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 19, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Good night and F Willis
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_DtLSN_x3cbw/R-JV3gpJXzI/AAAAAAAAARE/Ic0qUjDahT8/s400/trip9.jpg
"There are two girls that can take a pounding!" Tom Grieve
by Spadedsnake on May 20, 2009 12:28 AM CDT up reply actions
ODog goes down
looked like separated shoulder or a stinger on a sick diving over the shoulder 2b catch.
MLBGuys: “It would suck if they lost….”
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Hey Ned Colleti
we have a power hitting 3B/MIF available!
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
id pay sum1 to force josey to blow ned colleti
for clayton kershaw
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
these angels guys are all over kendrick's nuts over this infield single
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
ugh
its up to ichrio
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
hiro with the K
damn it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 20, 2009 12:04 AM CDT up reply actions
so Dontrelle's first 9 starts for them
he’s 0-2, with a 9.something ERA, and he decides to just look like he’s losing it all night long talking to the ball, licking everything he can get his hands on…then dominates us. Sounds about right. What a piss-poor way to end a 7 game win streak. And it doesn’t get any better knowing we’re going to get swept in Detroit again. Do we ever play these jackasses in Texas?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 20, 2009 12:12 AM CDT reply actions
If only the Rangers
had more guys like Andruw who can take the walks that Willis wanted to hand out.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Well at least kinsler knows what they're doing wrong
“We’re not working deep in counts very often. When we do that, when we get the pitcher’s count up early, we’re able to push a couple runs across at least.”
Now if only they would fix it.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Well, the good news is
The two biggest problems in P/PA this year are Blalock and Byrd, who will be gone in the offseason if they’re not traded first.
The bad news?
The other three Rangers who are below league average in P/PA are Hamilton, Young and Andrus (although Hamilton is basically right at league average, just .02 below it).
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
And it isn't hurting Young in the least
He may be headed for a career year, or close to his 2005.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on May 20, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
this thread is … interesting.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on May 20, 2009 12:45 AM CDT reply actions
No...
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
it was late
i was tired
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 20, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
I was thinking
the obvious discussion after that game is how poor our offense is at avoiding outs on the road. Shows how little I know.
I have no idea why this team walks about half as much on the road as they do at home. I see no reason that should be a park adjusted stat.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
This
I think that we are so trained to bitch about pitching that even when we get shut out by a pitcher who had been struggling, all we can complain about is a pitcher who went seven innings and gave up three earned runs.
At least I don’t believe that anyone has called for CJ to be sent down yet today. AJM’s rant would be memorable however if someone did.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on May 20, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions
Turns out that league average pitching isn't all we need to contend
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
So you'r saying that if this team has a league average OBP
that we will win?
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on May 20, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm horrified by this team's inability to get on base
I’m just glad for the handful of guys who actually work the count on this club.
PhD
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