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Thursday a.m. Rangers things

Well, the Rangers turned a triple play yesterday, so that was fun.  And at least the Angels lost.

Still, I'm ready to see Texas get out of Detroit.  And never come back.

Matt Harrison says he couldn't locate his fastball yesterday, which is what led to the runs.

Jeff Wilson says Jarrod Saltalamacchia has been great at throwing out runners this season.

Josh Hamilton is still day-to-day, but hopes to play today.

Frank Francisco's bullpen session yesterday apparently went great, and he's set to come off the d.l. tomorrow.  I would assume we'll see Warner Madrigal go back to AAA to make room for him.

Randy Galloway has a column about Nolan Ryan telling Kevin Millwood to get in shape.

Joe Slusarski was let go as the Frisco pitching coach.  He'd been brought in only this season, and was someone Nolan Ryan knew from his days with the Houston organization.

 

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I'm curious

What does a AA pitching coach have to do to get fired 2 months into his first season?

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions  

Especially when

the Rangers used to have a minor league manager that would talk to reporters naked all the time, and he was with the Rangers for years.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

AA Pitching

The frisco pitching hasn’t been great this year, the talent level is higher than the results they were getting.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Slusarski

I am pretty sure that EG said there were rumors of substance abuse. Check over at ID.

by pblack on May 21, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

He posted that
indicated it was not due to a substance abuse or legal issue. It was conveyed that it simply was not a good fit.

from http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/index.php/2009/05/20/rangers-change-pitching-coaches-at-double-a-frisco/

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

it does seem weird

To come out and say, “We are firing Mr. Slusarski, and it’s not for substance abuse”. I don’t know what to make of that.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

that doesn’t sound all that great

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 21, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

folks should assume he was ripping lines of coke with Greg “The Hammer” Williams though.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Reading Evan's post

it looked like whoever said that was responding to a question about why he was let go, not offering up information.

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by t ball on May 21, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

still

you would assume somebody asked the question for a reason

and it is interesting that no other explanation was given

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 21, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

A reason

Yes, it’s surprising for a pitching coach to suddenly be let go when we’ve heard nothing about it previously. So a reporter asks if there’s more to the story and they answer. We really are a bit too excited here about possible intrigue.

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by t ball on May 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

the reporter just guessed substance abuse?

really?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 21, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

reading it again

i guess it could have been one of two things (legal issues the other) that might warrant immediate dismissal.

fair enough

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 21, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

and

maybe evan shouldn’t have written it like that

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 21, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not a guess

I’m just guessing that the ‘source’ answered a question with a regrettable throwaway sentence that Evan copied the gist of.

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by t ball on May 21, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Sorta like

Me going home and telling my wife, “I got fired at work today, and it’s not because I was sleeping with the owner’s daughter”.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

But,

were you fingers crossed? And is she hot?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 21, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

more importantly,
is she hot?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Were you in another state?

Cuz those doesn’t count…

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Its different area codes

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 21, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Evidently you don't adhere to the same rigorous standards I do

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

I would have to be

in the witness protection program to tell my wife those things.

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by t ball on May 21, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm sure you tell Mrs. Sauce your thoughts regarding this subject before every business trip, right?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

These are just jokes

Karma is big, Sauce is little.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont know that they can legally say that it was for substance abuse

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

They really can't even say it was not for substance abuse

either, which makes the statement even more strange.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on May 21, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Let me just say now

for the record that I am in no way insinuating that Adam, Jamey, and the other guests of the Podcast in Arlington rip lines of coke off a strippers ass to prepare for the Podcast.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

wait, doesn't everyone do that all the time?

Hell, that’s how I get ready to go to church…

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by WhipSmart on May 21, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think we are all reading waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much

into that sentence, and I think it’s a bit slanderous to make that sort of assumption. If it’s not legal to say it was for substance abuse, then it would certainly be stupid of the club to say “uh, it’s not for substance abuse.”

He was obviously let go for pitching performance reasons.

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by t ball on May 21, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh i agree

Let was fired because the results stink.
BUT it’s certainly an odd statement to make with legal ramifications involved.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

wow

where the hell did “let” come from…my mind isnt working. Should be HE

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

And again

Evan wrote that, we are not reading a statement from the club. Perhaps Evan can clarify for us, but we’re all acting as if the club statement actually reads “he was not let go for substance abuse or legal reasons.”

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by t ball on May 21, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting note from the Galloway column

The Rangers had a deal in place to get rid of Millwood at the trade deadline that was nixed when he injured his groin. Hmm, wonder who was the other party in that deal?

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 8:31 AM CDT reply actions  

bbtia guessed maybe the Cubs…

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on May 21, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting Galloway column today.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 21, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Trade Deadline

Wasn’t that right when Zambrano went down?

by FuturePants on May 21, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Since it was a trade deadline deal

I doubt SFO was involved.

The Cubs, White Sox and maybe even the Yankees make sense.

If Millwood being out of shape was such a point of contention in the Ranger FO for such a long time, I wonder why it took so long to confront him.

The column does seem to confirm that Nolan made early suggestions in March ’08 (says everybody ignored him) and then spent last year observing before grabbing the wheel of the car and implementing change for this year.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on May 21, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan > Obama

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

Or it could be...

That Millwood needs a good season for his option to vest and guaranteeing him 12 more million dollars instead of an NRI somewhere else.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 21, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not sure I believe there really was a deal

Nolan seems to be his only source and it seems odd he wouldn’t have attributed that to Nolan if he was the one who said it.

by JPenn on May 21, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm suspicious too.

It would be great if JD came out and said there was no such deal. It would make Galloway look like an ass, and it would be a nice touche for Jon-Boy. The Star Telegram columnists always seem to hint at these phantom deals that never happened that no one else ever hears about. It’s their MO to make it seem like they’re “in.” with the front office. I’d love to see them called on it, but hey, maybe they are true.

by jcAustin on May 21, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

Though of course a front office denial is worth about as much as the paper it's printed on.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

Worth more than a Galloway column then

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 21, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

didnt he also have that post about trading for reyes too?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

It'd be a lot of interesting if it weren't Golloway.

I take everything that “man” says about the Rangers with two truckloads full of salt grains.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Warner

I guess it’s a good problem that he gets squeezed when Frank’s activated. Cause everything I’ve read about his performance this year has been good.

It puts an exclamation point on how bad Kris Benson needs to do well, in whatever role he’s in… I look forward to when he’s cut from the 25.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on May 21, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions  

Benson

I’m really not sure what purpose it serves keeping him around.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I’m less sure what purpose it serves keeping him over Warner.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on May 21, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

Maybe they want Benson and Jennings as the long men if Holland goes into the rotation, but that’s the only thing i can think of.

by jcAustin on May 21, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

Do you want Warner up here getting work as infrequently as Benson does?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

if it helps the team win games I do

We are leading the division, while at the same time developing young players at the big league level. I don’t think having a veteran spare in the place of a younger, better pitcher does anybody any good.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Is Benson causing us to lose any games?

Warner had plenty of ML experience last year that right now he needs to pitch and pitch alot. We can’t guarantee him that up here with the way our starters have done lately. If benson starts being used 3 times a week then yeah we need to look into bringing up someone better but right now i would rather see Warner pitch in AAA.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions  

when given the choice between...

A player that’s not causing us to lose any games because we have been able to avoid using him

OR

A player that should help us win games

I’ll take the latter, especially when that player is also younger and has a future on the team.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

True

I mean, I’m not causing the Rangers to lose any games either, but I’m also not on their payroll…

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on May 21, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

How will Madrigal help us win games if we don't have opportunities to use him?

is he going to supplant O’Day as the RH setup guy? Is he gonna take over for Frankie as closer?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well

until we start needing the last man more then let him keep pitching in AAA.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

I have no problem with

Benson being the 7th man in the bullpen. Let Warner go back to AAA and refine his pitches. It was encouraging yesterday that he had a 1-2-3 inning with a K.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 21, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

madrigal

I agree i think he needs to refine himself it AAA. The question on benson isn’t really related to madrigal at all.
Just seems there might be better options that him.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peavy to White Sox?

http://www3.signonsandiego.com/stories/2009/may/20/n70258234820-peavy-trade-chicago-white-sox-may-be-/

I wonder what kind of package it would take for the Rangers to get in on that? That is if he would even sign off on coming here at all and if he did I think the Rangers would have to get him to sign to an extension.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 8:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I wouldn't want to play for

that jackass either.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 21, 2009 8:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

You know what would be great

Is if Padilla would step off the mound and just drill his ass in the dugout.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

No shit

But I wonder if he would like to work with Maddux? I just saw on MLBtraderumors that it is believed to be a 4 player deal that would gut the Ho’s farm.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think

he wants to leave the easy league. He might have to actually pitch to guys who can hit.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oh snap son!

Oh snap! The NL was like “Whaaa?” You were like “WAP WAP” They was like “Why he dih that?”

by cmkelly29 on May 21, 2009 8:57 AM CDT up reply actions  

i wonder if Danks would be headed to SD as part of the deal

Guillen’s never really been a big fan of Danks in my mind.

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by willamos2 on May 21, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not John but

maybe Jordan and Beckham and Poreda and others.

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on May 21, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Beckham

can’t be traded yet can he? I guess Flowers would be part of the deal as well.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 21, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

White Beckham can't be dealt yet, but he can be PTBNL'd as part o' the deal.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Makes sense

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

Peavy seems to be a no BS guy. I don’t think that’s a good match.

by cmkelly29 on May 21, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

What is kind of neat about this

is the Rangers are done playing the ChiSox this year. They have 9 games remaining against the Angels and 6 against the M’s. Its conceivable that if this deal goes down, Peavy could pitch up to 3 times against the Angels instead of Bartolo Colon or Jose Contreras.

Little things will matter if the Rangers are going to win this division.

PhD

by JBImaknee on May 21, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Great thought.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 21, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder

Who the players are?

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

Gotta be Beckham + Poreda + filler.

Otherwise the Fathers aren’t getting great value here.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions  

That was my line of thinking as well

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

yup

though it would read PTBNL + Poreda +filler.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder if Gavin Floyd won't be headed to SD.

He’s butt ass terrible in Chicago, but he’d be decent in SD.

Everyone is decent when the equation reads (the NL West) + (Petco).

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Floyd sucks

and i’ll be glad if he’s traded so i can drop his ass.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm so excited for Peavy right now!!!

I’m worried about how good he’ll be in Chicago, but… still.

I was starting to get concerned that no big guns would come over this year and I’d be stuck twiddling my thumbs with the #1 priority all season.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

for the record i hate you

and i hate fantasy baseball….my team went from top to bottom over night

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

For the record it's still really early.

Anything can happen.

I’m only a little ahead of you and I still got a little hope.

Not much hope, but a little.

Especially if I end up getting Peavy right after I finally got ARod back.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

This is bad. Especially since Dirk gets Peavy this early in the season. Damn.

The CJ hate is getting old.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

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by sprite on May 21, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

i for one will be very upset

lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah...

but you didnt have to suffer through him ownershipping us last season

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, is knockout my replacement?

I hope you appreciate the keepers I left you.

It’s the best I could do what with dirk owning the trading circuits.

I don’t want to name names, but some owners gave him some sweet deals even when they had better offers from other teams…..

Unfortunately, I just don’t have the time to handle all the leagues that I was in, so, I had to relinquish the team. I’d be kind of curious who you kept and who you drafted.

R

by Requiem on May 21, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

dude he's in like second place

you either left him a decent team or he drafted REALLY well

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

He did have quite a few choices

to make.

I did set up as well as I could for the keeper since I was assuming that I would be running it.

There were some good keepers there.

I’m still rather bitter, though, that dirk won AND had the two best keepers in the league (if not more).

That’s should almost never be the case.

It was like he had some trade-fu l33t skillz or something.

R

by Requiem on May 21, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Can Beckham be traded...

right now? How long does a team have to keep a player after drafting him?

I suppose they could just do it as a PTBNL if they have to wait a couple months though.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 21, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm now if only 3 people in my AL only league dont find out about this

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

Like the team with #1 waiver priority?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

maybe

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions  

hmm now if only 3 8 people in my AL only league dont find out about this

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

This would be big news

Peavy is signed just for 2010 right?

by jcAustin on May 21, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you are correct

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

From the link.

Peavy is owed an additional $8.35MM this year, $15MM in ’10, $16MM in ’11, $17MM in ’12, and a $4MM buyout for ’13. Total: $60.35MM guaranteed through 2012.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, that's a huge amount of money.

I don’t know whether that contract is actually a huge positive for him at this point.

33mm in ‘11 and ’12 + a minimum of 4mm in ’13 is pretty steep given the volatility of pitchers’ arms.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Prediction:

Peavy’s arm blows up in two years.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

I feel the same way.

Which is why I’ve always been wary of AJM’s “Go get Peavy!” campaign.

His mechanics and history give me both the heebies and the jeebies.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Prediction

Peavy puts up better numbers than CLee through the end of Peavy’s contract.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions  

Prediction

Nu-uh!!!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

where?

in chi-town or in petco?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I agree

he’s not a pitcher i’d bet the farm on.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

The bigger question is

Will this help them get back into the race this year?

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Peavy

It will be interesting to see him more to a HR friendly park

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on May 21, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Not to mention

If it is a huge package that guts the White Sox system they are going to have to roll that same team out there again next year unless they spend in the FA market this off season. I don’t really know if he will except this deal.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

San Diego desperately wants rid of him for some reason

They really should have tanked a few more games last year to get Strasburg. Petco is going to be one empty ballpark in a few weeks

PhD

by JBImaknee on May 21, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions  

Kenny Williams does like

the pre-trading season deals even if they all haven’t been blockbusters.

                         sent packing…………………..player recieved
06/29/2001 Derek Hasselhoff………………Alan Embree and cash
06/17/2004 Billy Koch……………………………Wilson Valdez and cash
06/27/2004 Jeremy Reed, Miguel Olivo and Mike Morse……. Freddy Garcia and Ben Davis
06/15/2006 Javier Lopez……………………….David Riske
05/26/2007 Dwayne Pollok…………………..Tomas Perez
06/16/2007 Aaron Cunningham…………….Danny Richar

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 21, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

THERE WAS A BASEBALL PLAYER NAMED DEREK HASSELHOFF AND I WASN'T TOLD!?!?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

David's bastard son

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions  

EG has the lineup...

on D Insider and no Hamilton again today.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 21, 2009 10:06 AM CDT reply actions  

I hope they are just

being extremely cautious and that PH AB last night doesn’t come back and cost us.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 21, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good

would be a waste of time to bring him back for a day game. Give him the extra day off.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah...

my thoughts too.

He’s been pretty bad in day games the last couple years.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 21, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

Career

Day:

.227 .295 .412 .706, in 260 ABs

Night:

.319 .387 .573 .960, in 750 ABs

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 21, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

He should be ready to go for the next series, no?

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

We hope.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 21, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

From Heyman
Peavy’s agent, Barry Axelrod, said that Peavy prefers "Middle America,’’ so that should work. However, Peavy is also known to like the National League.

Hmm. We’ll see which one of those two weighs more heavily. I think i might have an idea which way the smart money is leaning.

And what well traveled multi-millionaire actually prefers Middle America? Chicago is great, but I’d pass on the rest of M.A. if money was no object.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions  

You realize...

where the Rangers are located, right?

by GhettoBear04 on May 21, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well, he didn't say anything

about Peavy coming to the Rangers.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 21, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'm not following your point

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

He is saying Texas is Middle America

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 21, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

I got that part.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just sayin...

“Chicago is great, but I’d pass on the rest of M.A. if money was no object.”

I would probably choose some cities on the coasts over middle American cities too, but there are more cities than just Chicago that are worth moving to besides Chicago. Dallas is one…but a large part of that is because that’s where the sports teams that I like play.

And since this is a Rangers blog, I figured that you would like more than just Chicago in middle America too.

by GhettoBear04 on May 21, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

If dollars were no object

I’d live wherever I wanted and just fly to Dallas often for games.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 21, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions  

Those robot maids

Would they have a working vag?

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

No kidding

You’d think of all the stuff scientists could be working on, flying cars and sex robots would be near the top of the list.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on May 21, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Japan is hard at work on this.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

tahahahaha

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hmmm, I'm not into the Japanese stormtrooper look

but I understand you have to walk before you can run.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 21, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yup. Turks + Caicoss = FTW.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

If housing costs wasn't an issue

I would actually have the opposite preference.

I like DFW a lot, but there are many cities I would MUCH prefer, and I would bet that most wealthy, well traveled people would agree with me.

Usually in these situations, someone picks a much smaller area they prefer, like say, the Northeast, or Texas, which makes more sense to me. Family considerations and whatnot.

I just find wanting not to be on either coast as rather surprising.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

I can understand it

Peavy is a southern boy. If you grew up in rural America and want to spend your off days hunting and fishing instead of hitting up sushi bars and surfing, “middle america” is far more preferable to California.

Heck, I don’t hunt or fish, but I prefer the quiet individualism of the middle as opposed to the crowded coasts.

PhD

by JBImaknee on May 21, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, that makes some sense.

I’ve never understood the appeal of hunting/fishing, but if that’s your thing, Middle America is prolly pretty nice.

But other than that… like noted international idiot Brian Thomas said, it’s kind of peculiar to designate middle america as your preferred destination.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just ask Tommy Hunter

I’m sure he’d vastly prefer Louisiana to California (dude loves to hunt).

by FuturePants on May 21, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think you can hunt in CA

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 21, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's good cougar hunting.

Rawr…

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm international?

And I’m noted?

Cool…

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

You mean to tell me you aren't loving San Diego?

That place is paradise.

What do you not like about it, other than housing costs and the people?

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ditto

San Diego seems >>>> Dallas to me in many ways, and I like Dallas.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 21, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

All those sunny 70 degree days

must get annoying. Who wouldn’t rather have ice storms, and 100 degrees with high humidity.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Believe it or not

people actually complain about the sunny 70 degree days.

Of course, it’s usually because they “miss having seasons.”

I suspect it’s more about they “miss complaining about something.” :D

R

by Requiem on May 21, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I loved my time

in SD (well, Carlsbad actually). I’ve never really understood the attraction in having months of the year where you have no desire to go outside.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too

But then, I’m more of an outdoorsy type of person.

I love hiking, going to the beach, playing sports, kayaking, etc., etc….

I suppose if you don’t really like doing outdoorsy things, then, having a sense of the passage of time might be worth living elsewhere.

And besides, if you WANT to experience other season outdoor stuff (aka skiing, snowboarding), you can do that too (though you’ll have to drive somewhat to do that).

R

by Requiem on May 21, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

I just don't like the whole, " i would prefer to stay in the NL"

or “or perennial winner in the AL”

But that’s just me. I like a guy who is original, a leader.

by octoberty on May 21, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
“If I had to make a bet on it, I would guess that Jake would say he’s not ready to take that step today. But he wouldn’t necessarily preclude it at any time in the future.”

by octoberty on May 21, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh.

I think a guy wanting some say in where he lives/works is perfectly fine.

But that’s just me.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't understand that.

But, okay.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

How long is his contract? 3 years he has to play half his games for 6 to 7 months a year in whatever place he goes.

It’s one thing if he didn’t want to be traded at all, but to be so choosy, he doesn’t want to go from the NL to the AL, I think its kind of little girlish. We assume he would have accepted the trade to the Cubs, correct? So he if vetoes this one, to the same city, that’s weak.

by octoberty on May 21, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's his opinion. He's comfortable in the NL.

He obviously felt strong enough about this to demand a no-trade in his contract.

I don’t understand how that makes him a puny little girl, but, okay.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Because the AL

is a man’s game, bitch.

The NL is where the puny little girls hang out.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 21, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

i think this whole "exercising no trade" BS is because he wants to guarantee

his 22 mil option

i bet if the almost any team offered a package good enough to get him + his 22 mil option he might be interested

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Per Gammons: No Beckham. It's all pitching.

Seems like a pretty crumby deal for SD.

That contract combined with his no-trade clause must’ve left SD without a lot of room to negotiate.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 11:44 AM CDT reply actions  

How does all pitching make it crumby?

They play in an extreme pitchers park so wouldn’t this fit their club best?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh. My. God.

I don’t know how to respond to logic like this.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

I think movies where it turns out the British guy did it are probably pretty accurate.

by thedirkatron on May 21, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

what?

Im asking how getting all pitching back makes this a crumby deal for SD?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did he say that?

It’s just a crumby deal overall. The overall talent SD would be receiving is pretty underwhelming.

by octoberty on May 21, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah unless I am reading this wrong which I have been known to do
Per Gammons: No Beckham. Its all pitching

Seems like a pretty crumby deal for SD.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 21, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

all pitching

who do they have to give up? richards, broadway, etc?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

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