Holland to Get First ML start
by Gdawg on May 21, 2009 5:02 PM CDT
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PrintJust got a newsflash from Jamey. Padilla is going on the DL with some shoulder discomfort while Francisco takes his roster spot. Holland is going to make the start in Padilla's place. I hate seeing Holland be forced into the rotation like this and Padilla's injury isn't supposed to be serious. On the other hand, I am excited to see Holland make his first Major League start and he should be able to dominate Houston tomorrow.
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Exactly!
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
A very fine idea
We were competitive in each game.
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 22, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I hope he can last longer than 53 pitches
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Confirmed:
He returned to Dallas after feeling uncomfortable following a bullpen session. He will not pitch tomorrow at Houston. He will probably be placed on the DL on Friday and be activated on June 1. …. Derek Holland will make his first major league start tomorrow. … The Rangers don’t feel the shoulder strain is very serious, but he can’t make this start and the Rangers are not going to go into interleague games short-handed.
By EG.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
If Feliz has another good AAA outing tonight
and Holland is solid tomorrow … lots of heads will explode.
Sigh ... we are sooo gonna suck again next season.
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"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
+ 2; and 2
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Visions of a dominant rookie duo will be dancing in our heads
Can I go ahead and prepare for my overreaction now?
HOLLAND + FELIZ = 2009 WORLD CHAMPS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
wait...how?
are you saying Holland stays in the rotation permanently and Feliz goes all bullpen all the time?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 21, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
No
he’s just saying we’ll explode from overexposure to awesomeness.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
this much is true.
and we need it after another Tiger sweep
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 22, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, heres the thing
*What if he pitches well in his 2-3 starts, then what do you do? Can you tell him he is going back to the bullpen?
*What do you do with the rotation if you keep Holland in it?
*Do you give Holland a pitch count, or let Nolan crack the whip over Dereks back too?
*Is there now ANY chance that Vicente Padilla is a Ranger in 2010?
*If the bullpen continues to suffer, how long till Neftail?
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on May 21, 2009 5:11 PM CDT reply actions
You should have numbered those
He goes back to the bullpen.
See above.
Absolutely there’s a pitch count.
Sure.
Augustish.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
In order to keep his total innings for this year down,
I am fine with him going back into the bullpen after a couple of starts only to be moved back into the rotation sometime near/after the ASB.
I really want him pitching to his full potential in September and not being shut down.
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by LBBRangerFan on May 21, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions
My question, too
The first one, anyway.
I can’t imagine they move Padilla to the bullpen. He showed too much as a starter, and then Holland’s shown a lot as a reliever, too.
Strange thing is, I can’t see them moving anyone from the rotation right now.
Except Scooter. Seriously. He can slot right into Holland’s BP role.
But let’s not get ahead of ourselves.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on May 21, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
By the time Padz is back
BMac will probably have blisters, keeping him out for 2 weeks.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
i'm at the point now
where i don’t know why would slot feldman over bmac. but i also understand why you would never slot feldman over bmac.
so, it makes for an ugly situation
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
i don’t know why would slot feldman over bmac. but i also understand why you would never slot feldman over bmac.
I mean, exactly. Seriously.
So long’s he’s getting to the 7th, I guess he’s pulling his own. Dude’s 25. I was far more incompetent at that age.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on May 21, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm assuming
he’s in the rotation for good.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
Holy crap am I excited
Granted, this isn’t the plan for development, but as JD said when asked about Holland going into the rotation (which he said was 50-50), someone might very tweak something at some point.
Heeeeeeeeeere we go.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Am I alone in feeling more confident with Holland on the mound than Padilla?
Though the bandbox that is formerly known Enron Field is probably less than ideal for your first start.
PhD
Let's wait and see, I hope Padz is ok, but thinks this team needs a spark!!!
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd be shocked if Holland puts up a
100 ERA+ in his first MLB start, especially in that park.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I think that if you are saying that tomorrow night, you are more comfortable w/ Holland, then yes, you prolly aren't alone, but I'm not with you
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 8:42 PM CDT up reply actions
pop goes the weasel...
"So, is there any tread left on the tires? Or at this point would it be like throwing a hot dog down a hallway?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Good god man
You just made me think of a penis and Winnie the Pooh at the same time. Thanks for f’ing up my childhood memories.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
I am surprised
they are giving Holland the start. Since Padilla will probably only be out 2 weeks I thought they would have given Benson the start and not jerk Holland around.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Oh god, please take that back and never repeat that again...pleeeeease!
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Exciting!
But also very disappointing with the way Padilla has been pitching lately.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Too many pitches last start.
Go Rangers...don't suck...
by Kinslerhomer on May 21, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions
what is his pitch count though?
can’t be more than 80, right?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
and he's probably being backed up by benson?
I want to see holland do well and he obviously is going to need a transition start. i guess you might as well try to do the transition start against a crappy team.
of course, you are jeopardizing your otherwise automatic win
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
He was clearly gassed at 53 pitches recently.
I’m sure the adrenaline will help him a bit there, but maybe not.
Bacsik was talking about this recently…that after so long in the BP, pitchers don’t have the stamina to go too long in a start. And that may also be why you frequently see guys sent down to “stretch out” before making their first MLB start.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
great
a 50 pitch outing? I’m not sure I wouldnt’ want to bring in whoever was scheduled to go for OKC or Frisco. Probably a worse pitcher than Holland but at least they could give you 100 pitches (and possibly 5 innings). then you could just have Holland take mop up duty.
As it stands, what exactly are we going to see? Holland for 3+? Then? I guess just all fo the bullpen arms that haven’t pitched in so long.
Sounds like a plan…
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Ah, I was incorrect.
It was 58 pitches, against the Angles, 2.2IP 5ER, 05/15.
But, WWNRD?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Precisely.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on May 21, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
You know, everyone is just a bit too excited
that a pitcher is injured.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
i bring the much needed pessimism
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
It was bound to happen at some point.
Give the guy some rest and let Dutch boy get a hack at it.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions
What's his "injury"?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Right shoulder strain
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Not serious
I do think some are getting way too excited in the sense that they need to temper their expectations and realize that Holland may very well struggle
that said, Padilla just has soreness, not something for everyone to run and panic about
this will happen 10 times this year to different rangers pitchers
sweet
and the game will actually be on in tulsa!!
we have company over tomorrow AND i have the day off. will try and sneak peaks as often as i can w/o the misses getting pissed because i’m rude
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
Hey, I'm in the running also
I broke he was coming up and I broke Robbie Alomar had AIDS! That sir puts me over the top. :)
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
robbie alomar is okay
had it been robin ventura (not saying it should be, just sayin) then it would have been huge rangers news
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
and that Mr Rogers used to be a sniper in the Marines. Wasn't that you?
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 6:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Get out
Anybody got a link on that?
Won’t you be my
Won’t you be my
Won’t you be my bullet sponge?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on May 21, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a no go, wish it was true...
http://www.snopes.com/radiotv/tv/mrrogers.asp
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm going to all three games this weekend
I get to witness the beginning of greatness!
Derek Holland-2011 AL Cy Young
I'm not excited at all
We are coming off of a three game sweep, and now tomorrow if Holland sucks AND we lose 4 strait, our baseball world will be shattered and we will spend the rest of the season curled up into the fetal position as we slowly sink down to 4th in the AL west.
what time is the game 2m?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 6:10 PM CDT up reply actions
WOOHOO!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 21, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's a long season man. Let's stay positive...
We’re normally in last place by now with no direction whatsoever.
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions
If you're not excited at all then you're not a fan of the Rangers.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Oh im excited
My glass is just perma half empty.
by SaltyGoesYard on May 21, 2009 6:27 PM CDT up reply actions
This is approved by Lt. John Dangle!
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm pumped!
this is the crystal ball I was hoping somebody had in the post game thread….we get a chance to see the future of this ball club.
Perfect!
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
I look forward to it
However, how much can one reasonably expect when he was recently gassed after throwing 50 something pitches? If he doesn’t look sensational tomorrow I think LSB is going to hire a resident psychiatrist to man a suicide watch.
Sweetness.
Jon Daniels to Kris Benson: “you’re done as a starter on this team, Benson.”
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Benson to JD: "I'm still on the team?"
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
sweet
My wife works tomorrow night and my son is spending the night with a friend. Now if I can just get rid of these damn dogs I can watch the game in peace and quite.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Pitch count...
over/under 70?
I also think this could be interesting if he pitches pretty good. Who will get bumped when Padilla is back? I’ve got the feeling they don’t want him going back and forth between the ‘pen and the rotation and would like to leave him in the rotation once he’s there.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
On the draft front
The Rangers had two scouts up here in St Paul to watch Tanner Scheppers pitch tonight. We’ll see how that goes…
"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"
When is the draft again?
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on May 21, 2009 8:43 PM CDT up reply actions
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Awesome. I’m pumped.
It’ll be interesting to see how his secondary pitches look tomorrow – I wonder if we’ll get to see his changeup any.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
I think Padilla would be a great fit with the White Sox.
Send back Dan Hudson and it’s a done deal for me.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
I had the same thought...
when I heard Peavy declined. But could you imagine a clubhouse with a hothead manager and the assassin.
Curious though that Padz gets “DL’d” on the same day that the Pale Hosers get shunned by Peavy, and Bartolo Colon gets absolutely shelled by the Twins.
Anybody else think we may here rumors of a deal between JD and Ken Williams?
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
Well
Kenny Williams did say he wanted his pitchers to retaliate more after we hit all those Sox batters a week or two ago…
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
i don't understand how DL'ing padilla could indicate anything
the preceding post was a great success.
Injury prevention if a deal is in the works...
Not saying that there is a treade deal in place, just curious about the timing….and feeling conspiratorial today
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
Not on Friday...
but I’ll be there on Sunday.
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
Four-A pitcher!
/Crops on the farm
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
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