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Hacktacular: A simplistic analysis of Game 1 vs. NYY

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I was going to put this in the post-game thread, but it's not up yet and this seems to be a pattern anyway.

 

Inning/Pitches seen that inning/total pitches at end of inning/pitches per inning at end of inning)

 

1st – 12 (12, 12)

2nd – 19 (31, 15.5)

3rd – 7 (38, 12.7)

4th – 9 (47, 11.8)

5th – 17 (64, 12.8)

6th – 19 (83, 13.8)

7th – 9 (92, 13.1)

8th – 9 (101, 12.6)

9th – 8 (109, 12.1)

 

In five of the 9 frames, the Rangers failed to make the Yankees throw even 10 pitches. It should be embarrassing for another team to come on your field and screw you six ways from Sunday in front of all those people.

 

Also, Nelson Cruz hit a solo shot in the ninth to bust the shutout. Now down 11-1, FIREWORKS GO OFF AND MUSIC FILLS THE STADIUM??? I like what Chuck Morgan does, but I do not like that. There's not one fucking thing to celebrate when you're getting trounced at home and get a meaningless run in the 9th.

 

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If you are going to do the fireworks/homers thing...

…after every home run, you do it after every home run.

by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

I came here to split hairs. And you?

by Chase Irwin on May 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not only that

it broke up the shutout, and that is worth something

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 25, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also, Nelson Cruz hit a solo shot in the ninth to bust the shutout. Now down 11-1, FIREWORKS GO OFF AND MUSIC FILLS THE STADIUM??? I like what Chuck Morgan does, but I do not like that. There’s not one fucking thing to celebrate when you’re getting trounced at home and get a meaningless run in the 9th.

calm down.

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 25, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

I'm Calm

I’ve just never liked that. It’s beyond silly and makes the team look stupid, in my opinion. And I don’t think that it has to be done after every single homer they hit. It could be a judgment call.

Anyway that wasn’t the main point of the post.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only at the end of the game after a win

And maybe not even then.

Fake excitement conjured up by the team always bothers me. It’s one of the main reasons I don’t go to Mavericks games.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by DaheelzCM on May 25, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i like how you assume it is fake excitement

like nobody could possibly be excited about a nelson cruz home run when down 11-1. there are some people who just like seeing the rangers play and do well regardless of the outcome.

hard to believe, but someone in the park was probably genuinely happy about that home run

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 25, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fine

If the FANS are actually excited then that is great. Let them cheer and scream and do a little jig in the aisles. I just don’t like it when the team feels the need to tell people when to get excited or cheer or chant DE-FENSE.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by DaheelzCM on May 25, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i see the point

but if you didn’t do that at a DFW sporting even, it’d probably be whisper quiet.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 25, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I give this rant: Two dismissive wanking motions.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on May 25, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x

"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on May 25, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

brilliant

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 26, 2009 2:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Eh

Doesn’t matter what the score is – something exciting is something exciting.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on May 25, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

not everyone is there to brood

in a depressing state. they want something to cheer for, even if it takes until the bottom of the 9th down 11.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 25, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

exactly

for people who actually enjoy baseball as a game (think kids) or maybe like the players, the fact that nellie cruz hit a home run is cause for celebration.

i guess you don’t want the fans to cheer the team when they are losing?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 25, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The other thing is...

…is if you do it on a case-by-case basis, you’ll end up with some player pissed off because he hit a home run and the fireworks didn’t go off, and what’s wrong with him and why isn’t the team celebrating him getting a homer?

If Juan Gonzalez were still playing, that would happen with him.

by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is it true that they did it for Cal

when he hit a homer in his final at bat at TBIA? I seem to remember something like that?

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on May 25, 2009 6:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True....and a big mistake

I made a huge judgement in error that night.
I reacted as a fan and not as an employee of the Rangers.
I hit The Natural button…but what is not true, we did not shoot the fireworks.
I reacted without thinking of the home club.
A couple of hitters later, the phone rang and it was one of our players, nicely telling me that they had a problem with what I did and asked me how did I think our pitcher felt standing on the mound with “their” home run music playing for another player.
It was a mistake and I apologized to the team and to the pitcher that was on the mound.
But we didn’t shoot the fireworks…..
But this relates to my post at the bottom….the players do care and they do notice those things.
Black Francis expressed his opinion, he is entitled to that.
Thanks
Chuck

by chuckranger83 on May 25, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember it happening and I thought well that seems weird, but we’ve got a real baseball fan up there. Keep up the good work!

"A lot of guys can hit gnats in the butt in a bullpen." - Ron Washington
"Clearly, the season is over. Fire Daniels, fire Washington, fire Maddux, burn down TBIA." - AJM

by aggierangerfan00 on May 25, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

well

i was there for that game. and ive been to dozens of games but i will never forget that one. i was there with my parents, my grandpa and his then girlfriend. we were sitting about 15 rows back looking right at 3b. when he hit that ball and you played “the natural” it sent chills all over me. i have never had a problem with you doing that and i think it simply showed respect to one of the true great players my generation has gotten to see.

by j d on May 25, 2009 9:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Your Grandpa . . .

had a girlfriend? That’s awesome. Was it weird for you and your family?

by e1 on May 25, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol no

he’s had several that i can remember. pretty funny my grandpa’s more of a player than me.

by j d on May 26, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The player who called you...

Just a wild guess. Could it have been…oh, I don’t know… Darren Oliver??

It actually wasn’t his final at-bat at The Ballpark. He got one more plate appearance after that and popped out to 3rd off Pat Mahomes.

by brianphayes on May 25, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't give a damn about their feelings

If Nelson Cruz can’t understand why the fireworks didn’t go off when he hit a meaningless homer while his team is being anally raped, that’s his problem.

This is my opinion. I’ve expressed it. I do not feel the need to argue about it anymore.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Oh, come on… argue it more!

It’s an awesome argument!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on May 25, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What if the Rangers come back and win this game?

As unlikely as it would be, that HR is never going to be meaningless while the game is still going on.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 25, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

Of course there’s this – Nelson Cruz deserves staged lighting and background music wherever he goes. It’s only at the Ballpark that he actually has to do something work related to experience it.

/hehehe

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on May 25, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you.

Nothing to celebrate there. Caveat- I don’t have any kids, so I understand why CM does it. Kids and people that are there to be there.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 25, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Indeed.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on May 25, 2009 7:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This vaunted offense

will be the Rangers undoing, going forward. They don’t show up against good pitchers. Bring up Boggs, and get AJ in the lineup for starters. Heck, I prefer Murph over Byrd or Blalock right now. At least Boggs, Murph, and AJ will look at some pitches.

I don’t think it’s too early to think about trading for an outfielder or a DH, as long as they are high OPS guys who see a lot of pitches.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 25, 2009 4:28 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One guy isn't going to change this thing

See Jamey’s email from today or yesterday and that Milt really didn’t have that big an impact on the Rangers’ OBP.

This is a mindset thing. Personally, I think it’s between Wash and Rudy. Wash keeps preaching patience while Rudy’s style is going after pitches. Plus, we got some new young guys that want to produce which probably leads to trying to do too much.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on May 25, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's frustrating to watch

when a guy gets a leadoff double and you don’t think he’ll score unless we hit a homerun.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 25, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only young guy who's below average in P/PA is Andrus.

Even Davis is slightly above league average at seeing pitches (he just swings and misses at most of them).

The biggest problems have been Blalock, Byrd and MY. And I can’t lay all of those performances on Rudy myself – those three are historically impatient hitters.

"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09

"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on May 25, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The thing I don't get about Blalock...

…he always had pretty good walk rates at each level of the minors, particularly considering he was always so young for each level.

And then he had the great 2004 season when he drew 75 walks in the majors at age 23. At that point, I figured we were looking at a guy likely to develop into a consistent 90+ bb/yr disciplined slugger during his prime phase. Something has definitely gone awry.

by brianphayes on May 26, 2009 12:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

blalock

i wonder how many ppl in 2004 thought he was the 3rd baseman of the future for the rangers…

(raises hand)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 26, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was the next coming of George Brett

I can’t believe I feel so negatively towards him right now. He was poised to be the face. I remember when John Hart was trying to put him at second base, much to the chagrin of MY. I thought then we were going to have a consistently brilliant 3rd baseman for the next decade and a half, not this cadaver who roams the earth feeding on human brains.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 26, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wasn't real happy

to seem him bat cleanup this year. Everytime they do it, he turns into a pull happy hacking machine. He gets his HRs, but his average and OBP go flushing down the toilet.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 26, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering he was a top 3 overall prospect and hit the crap out of the ball when he first came up... yah, everyone.

It’s been so, so sad to watch.

He was supposed to be the shit.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

even if you felt it was time to trade for someone

I wouldn’t do it, because we have a patient, disciplined hitter in Smoak waiting in the wings. He won’t be a savior. but he could provide a MB type in the middle of the order.

Plate discipline is key. If you swing and miss at a ball on the first pitch, you are always digging yourself out of a hole. Strike one is the most important pitch for a pitcher, and every game we help the pitcher get so many strike ones. It makes their pitcher seem so much better than they are. Plate discipline and pitch recognition is to hitting as having command within the strikezone is for pitching.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 25, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

Smoak only fills one hole (heh). I would still be all for trading for the right outfielder. And lets face it, we have the pieces to deal.

I should not comment while drunk anymore.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 26, 2009 2:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hank and Byrd...

…those two guys appear to be the biggest offenders of getting up there and just hacking away. It’s almost embarrassing watching Hank get up there and try to pull everything. The other pitchers know what he’s going to do, so they throw everything away (and usually out of the zone), and there’s Hank trying to pull everything into the RF stands. Byrd, who had a very good OBP last year, now has a .020 split between BA and OBP. It drives me crazy watching him flail away on 2-0 when the pitcher just walked the hitter before him. I know “the room” loves Byrd, and he is hitting for a decent avg and a versatile defender. but it is maddening watching his approach at the plate right now.

by Topgun22 on May 25, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler, Hamilton

Davis and Salty don’t work counts either. Kinsler called out the team, yet swings at the first pitch almost every time. I feel like he is trying to go to right field, and he ends up with a pop out. Our saving grace is the fact that we are in a weak division.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 25, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember when Ian would never, ever swing at the first pitch

He would stand there with the bat on his shoulder everytime. Now, he hacks at everything and his average has fallen 100 points.

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on May 25, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boggs????

Why do people keep saying bring up Boggs, when he can’t hit AAA pitching?

PhD

by JBImaknee on May 26, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh???

His OPS stands at .798 with a very healthy 16% walk rate, and he has above average wOBA and OPS numbers at every minor league stop in his resume. The Rangers can always use his defense and patient approach at the plate. He had a slowish April but has picked things up considerably since then. A Murphy-Boggs combo in LF would be solid.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 26, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boggs isnt bad

i mean, hes not a guy you want to run out there and get 550-600 ABs but hes a solid 4th or 5th OF based on his defense alone (top 5 guy last year at his position according to +/-)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 26, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup. The real question with Bra-Bog is health.

How’s his shoulder doing?

Cause that arm is a lot of what made him such an outstandin defender in LF last year.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly think

he started going to shit after the Home Run Derby appearance. Thats when he decided it was better to be a dead pull hitter then a guy who used the whole field.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 26, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brandon Boggs?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 7:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

replied to the wrong post

that was supposed to be to a Blalock post above. No idea how it ended up here.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 26, 2009 9:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think you need to look...

at what he’s doing in OKC again.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 26, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Phil Hughes interview MLB Network just now

Talking about being pulled and whether he could have gone the distance.

“I had a few easy innings in between.”

Yup.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on May 25, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

he still sucks

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 25, 2009 5:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, he doesn't.

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- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 25, 2009 6:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I own the team

I’m setting off fireworks the second they announced attendance today.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 25, 2009 5:01 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

That's not quite fair

From the gameday data, most of the swings they took were on pitches inside the strike zone. counting roughly, they swung at 56 pitches total of the 109 pitches thrown, which is about 51%. Yes, that’s a lot. However, 41 of those pitches that were swung at were clearly in the strike zone, and would be called strikes if not swung at. 9 more of the 56 pitches were borderline – by definition in the strike zone, but may be called balls if the umpire squeezes, and only 6 pitches were swung at that were clearly balls. They also took 16 called strikes.

So when they swung the bat today, 73% of the time, they swung at things that are definitely strikes, and swung at clear balls only about 11% of the time. That’s pretty good selectivity. The problem is that they couldn’t do anything when they swung at them – I guess you could argue that they could take a few more called strikes, but I am not sure how that would help. We have plenty of games where our hitters just swings at everything that comes their way, and criticism in those cases are well deserved, but this is not one of those games. They were simply overmatched.

Here is a location chart of Phil Hughes to back things up, some of the red dots are called strikes and others are fouls or swinging strikes – most of them are in the strike zone. The blue dots are things put in play – again, most in or touching the strike zone.

by Telegraph on May 25, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

as much as i hate to admit it, hughes pitched a good game. maybe they should have done more with what they were given but he pitched in the zone for the most part

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 25, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did pitch a good game

No doubt about that. But the key to beating a good pitcher is to make his ass work. Last year they did it. The Yankees and Red Sox do it every fucking game. Take pitchers’ pitches even if they’re strikes, don’t swing at pitches out of the zone, shorten up and foul a bunch off if the guy is having a good game and it winds up being 0-2 or 1-2 or whatever. If the players they have can’t or won’t do this, or if the hitting coach will not try to get them to, replace these people because you’re not going to win with them.

Today’s game is just an example. One of many. There are way too many guys on this team who can be easy outs if they don’t get their perfect pitch to hit.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They may have been swinging

at pitches in the zone but that doesn’t mean they were good pitches to swing at.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 25, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

um

what exactly are you supposed to do with them then?

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 25, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Take them.

If you have two strikes, try to spoil them.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you try to spoil them

aren’t you swinging?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 25, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Obviously

But it’s a much different kind of swing when you’re spoiling a pitch.

by Black Francis on May 26, 2009 7:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok

but I thought you were bitching because of the number of pitches that were swung at. But, now you want them to try to spoil 2 strike pitches. Which is it?

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2009 7:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Have you ever played baseball?

A taken third strike is what’s known as a strikeout. You’re out, and cannot bat again until your turns comes up.

So if you have two strikes and are still getting close pitches, also known as pitchers’ pitches, you attempt to foul them off. To do this you don’t take a full swing from the heels like most Rangers do. You make contact and send them wide of the lines, usually on the ground. Occasionally we see a Rangers do this, usually Kinsler or Young. We quite often see opponents to it do it to the Rangers. You know, those 12, 13 pitch at-bats. In 99 percent of those the hitter wasn’t trying to hit every pitch fair. He was trying to stay alive until he could get something to drive. It doesn’t always result in his getting on base, but a good amount of time it does, and it also frustrates the holy hell out of the pitcher and drives up his pitch count.

If the the 2 strike pitch is clearly out of the zone, then it is to be taken for a ball. After four of these, a hitter may “walk”, unimpeded, to first base.

by Black Francis on May 26, 2009 8:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

The great “have you ever played” argument?

Yes, I’m quite aware of what you are supposed to do with 2 strikes. I just found it humorous that you were bitching about the number of pitches that were being swung at, yet you are advocating 2-strike swings.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I will explain this one more time.

If they’re hacking their way to 0-2 and 1-2 counts all the time and the pitch is close, they obviously have to swing at that point to avoid a quick strikeout. And same thing if they were patient and got to 3-2 without getting anything good to hit.

You know what I’m talking about.

by Black Francis on May 26, 2009 6:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If it is early in the AB...

…and it is a borderline pitch, you let it go.

Just because it is a strike doesn’t mean that you have to swing at it.

by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fair enough

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 25, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Adam is right.....

When I first got into professional baseball, I was taught that a home run needed nothing….a home run should stand alone, no fireworks, no music….there should be nothing but fans cheering and the player rounding the bases. I am not sure that would work today.
I have been other ballparks where the home club was losing and music is played, fireworks are shot off….like Adam says, if you do it for one Rangers home run, you do it for all Rangers home runs.
If that is you at the plate swinging for the home club and you hit the home run or if it was your son that hit the home run, you would want us to treat it just like every other Rangers home run hit by the Rangers over the last 9 years.
I tried to sell the idea of a home run standing by itself one time…nobody was buying.
We started The Natural in 1992….Fireworks came in 2000.

I didn’t like the score in the 9th anymore that the rest of you today. I felt as bad today as anybody…I eat, sleep and drink Rangers Baseball, have for 27 years…we have 48,000 plus there today, I wanted to win….as much as I ever have.

All clubs have things for home runs, whether ahead or behind.

If I had it my way, I would like to go back where a home run stands alone…no music, no fireworks, just the fans cheering as a Ranger rounds the bases.

I appreciate Black Francis’ comments, but Chuck Morgan doesn’t alway agree with the things that Chuck Morgan does either.

Thanks everyone for coming to the game today, if you could make it, I understand.
Most of all I appreciate everything that your grandfathers, fathers, etc. did so we can enjoy the freedoms that we do.

Thanks

Chuck Morgan

by chuckranger83 on May 25, 2009 6:34 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

The fact that you don't like doing it

…is comforting.

It’s not really a big deal. What is a big deal to me is whether or not they win or lose, which was what this discussion was really supposed to be about.

Like I said in the original post, I do like just about everything you and your people do. And clearly most others do too because you’ve been at it a real, real long time.

by Black Francis on May 25, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck, as always...

…thanks for coming by to share this stuff with us. It is greatly appreciated.

by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 6:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice insight Chuck.

Thanks as always.

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 25, 2009 7:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck . . .

you kick ass. Mazel tov!

by e1 on May 25, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the fireworks...

…should go off after any and every Ranger HR regardless of score and inning, mainly for reasons already stated (little kids at their first Ranger game, etc…)

But also, In case anyone missed it, Cleveland was behind 10-0 in their home park today. They were still down 10-2 entering the bottom of the 8th and still down 10-4 entering the bottom of the 9th. They scored 7 in the 9th and won.

It’s a little different from shooting off fireworks for a meaningless TD or 3-pointer with a minute left in the game when the Cowboys or Mavericks trail by 30 and defeat is 100% certainty. There’s no clock in baseball so as long as you’ve got 1 out left, there’s still a chance of winning. It may be exceedingly miniscule, like the situation today, but it’s still a chance and there’s still some glimmer of hope. So go ahead and celebrate it.

by brianphayes on May 25, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

curious question for Chuck

do you remember if you gave Luis Alicea the full Natural/Fireworks teatment after he crossed the plate safely when he hit his inside-the-park HR?

I can’t remember any other ranger player hitting an inside the park HR at The Ballpark?

by brianphayes on May 26, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they should shoot them off 2x for an inside the park homer

then send oxygen down to the dugout lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 26, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not time....

The fireworks tries to shoot the fireworks as the runner hits second base….
On Alicea’s home run, you don’t know if it is going to be a home run, so no fireworks were shot….#2, no time to play the music either.
On your other post, the player that called was not Darren Oliver.
I talked with Darren later, apologized to him…he said he didn’t think anything about it.
Thanks Brian.
Chuck

by chuckranger83 on May 26, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

thanks again for being so open to the fans chuck

you are one of the best (if not the best) rangers offseason (re)acquisition of the last few years!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 26, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turning back the curtain a little bit...

Chuck,

When a Ranger hits a homerun, do you press a button to shoot off the fireworks?

Or, do you or one of your minions have to send a quick message to the fireworks shooting dudes that are behind centerfield?

How long does it take to ‘reload’ the fireworks? If we hit home runs on back-to-back pitches, is there a chance the second guy doesn’t get his in time?

Thanks for all you do for the Rangers and for keeping us entertained.

It's baseball. You don't always get what you want, and you don't always want what you get. --Ed Coffin

by txranger7 on May 26, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Minions.......

The fireworks company has a guy underneath the sign closest to the home run porch…he is listening to the game on the radio and waits for Eric or Dave to call it a home run…he tries to hit the blast just as the hitter hits second base. Arlington has a fire official on duty as well.
There are enough fireworks loaded for 8 home runs…..it takes a couple of hours to re-load.
Back to back home runs are not a problem.

The first attempt at fireworks for home runs was during the 1996 playoffs….we had a guy on the roof with no radio and he shot them off after Juan hit a ball that look like a homer, but went foul….causing Bob Costas to remark on NBC, “I guess they shoot fireworks off for foul balls in Texas”….Juan homered on the next pitch……..

Thanks for the nice comments….to me the entertainment is Elvis making a great play or Josh hitting a home run…..I just try to make sure you get the balls, the strikes, the outs, the score, some stats, the pitch speed and then kill a minute and half between innings.
Most of the time, I am having as much fun as you guys are at the ballpark.
Thanks

Chuck

by chuckranger83 on May 26, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha!

Great ad-libbing by Costas AND Juan.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 26, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you have a great job and some great stories

ever though about writing a book (seriously) — would be a pretty great read imho

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on May 26, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note to self

Convince Chuck to give me his job. :)

Thanks as always, CM.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on May 26, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

you're good people

Thanks for all you do…including the enlighting responses you consistently provide us fans on the various forums. You’re great at what you do and I’ve appreciated your efforts for many years now.

by brianphayes on May 26, 2009 6:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chuck

can’t control what the sound board/fireworks man gone do, that’s crazy man.

Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.

by red shoe ranger on May 26, 2009 7:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

referencing

J-Ho quote, “you can’t control what the ball gonna do, that’s crazy man!” That was his answer to a question regarding his poor shooting performance in last years playoffs.

Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.

by red shoe ranger on May 26, 2009 8:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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