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by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 7:46 PM CDT
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PrintI hate the Kobe and LeBron puppet commercials so much, I have to change the channel when they come on.
I can't remember the last commercial I hated so much.
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The Geico
‘this is the money you could be saving’ commercials are killing me. Are they supposed to be humorous? I can’t muster a smirk.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Logged on just to mention this.
Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst
The only that's okay is the one with the construction guys on the roof cause they're awesomely white trash.
And then the look on the wise old black guy’s face after he let’s ‘em know what’s up is priceless.
Gets me everytime.
The other ones are all stupid as crap.
But you can download that song for free and be the most popular kid on your school yard!!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 2:59 AM CDT up reply actions
I hate those too...
they’re worse than the caveman shit they did forever.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Miniiiii suuurloiiiin burgerrrrs....
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
I'd rather see that commercial 20 times...
…than the puppet commercial once.
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
I honestly haven't seen this puppet commercial
So I don’t know if it’s as bad as you say or not.
I do remember one commercial a little while back with some guy from the Celtics (think it was Garnett) and a bunch of yokels in medieval gear doing some extremely lame skit for Mountain Dew or Gatorade or something. I hated that, but I haven’t seen it in awhile thankfully.
Another annoying thing is those Cisco commercials they play during 24.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
Those Gatorade commercials were weird,
but Alicia Sacramone was in them. So, they were watchable for a brief second.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
quit changing your avitar so much
I can’t figure out who I’m supposed to ignore.
by robert_d_wilfong on May 26, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Heheheh
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
That was a homage to
“Monty Ptyhon and the Quest for the Holy Grail” but I don’t think most sports fans got the reference.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
by DerekSTheRed on May 26, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
i'm looking forward
to kobe vs lebron in the nba finals for the next 5 or 6 years.
the lakers vs the knicks every year is gonna be tight.
Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.
thats why
Im rooting for orlando and denver!… cause everyone has been expecting lakers & cleveland
by texasrangerfan on May 25, 2009 9:15 PM CDT up reply actions
im going for that too
orlando/denver
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 25, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions
If Denver/Orlando both won, here's a representation of what David Stern's toilet would look like five-to-ten minutes later.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 12:14 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Rec'd.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
But it can't happen
because the NBA is fixed, right?
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Rigged, not fixed.
Teams can still overcome the biased officiating and upset what the league is trying to do (See: Spurs over Lebron, Pistons over Lakers, etc.).
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 5:14 PM CDT up reply actions
i haven't seen any commercials in 5 years thanks to TiVO
i’m too impatient to sit there and waste my time watching commercials when i know i could watch a baseball game in 2 hours if I can (ironically) be patient enough to wait until later.
i feel like I’m more productive in some weird way.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
Sports are the only thing I watch live.
I can’t stand watching a sporting event on tape delay.
Don’t know why, but I just can’t.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions
Same here.
It’s just knowing that it’s done and others know. I don’t know how people do it.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
And the ANgels tie it up in the bottom of teh first
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 8:38 PM CDT up reply actions
John Danks
wishes he was as awesome as Brandon McCarthy
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I saw the puppet commercial last night for the first time and thought it was funny... but not the kind of funny that would be so a second time.
Kinda like how I thought the Dustin Pedroia MVP commercial was funny the first time but I’m tired of it now.
I'm still loving that one
Anything that trashes Pedroia is fine by me
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
This is ouuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuur country!
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
worst commercial ever
you win
"calmer than you are dude" Walter (Big Lebowski)
"you're fuckin out" (Kenny Powers)
by Arlington Stadium Legend on May 25, 2009 8:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm unsure
whose country was it again?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
you're so two thousand and late...
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead
HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead
HeadOn, apply directly to the forehead
Shamwow!
You’ll be saying wow every time…
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
Slapchop...
you’ll love my nuts!
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
OT: Rays implosion.
up 10-2 the BP gives up 2 in the 8th and 7 in the 9th. Good ole Joe Maddon leaves Izzy in there as he walks the bases loaded in the 9th and then gives up the game winning hit.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
auspicious beginning for David Price
5 BBs
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
He hasn't
really dominated this year. He was still pretty good but he never got out of the 5th in any of his minor league starts.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
I love those commercials...
the one where ‘Kobe’ kept talking about his rings was particularly awesome
+1
they are easily my favorite commercials on TV.
Those damn McCafé commercials and everything Geico’s put out in the last 10 years are infinitely worse. Hey it’s a caveman! We used that in a past commercial! Hey it’s a talking gecko! Look how British he is!
by MeanMr.Mustard on May 26, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions
I will laugh
so hard if either ORlando or Denver ruin the NBA’s planned finals.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
if that happens
then it sort of pokes holes in the whole “NBA is fixed” theory right?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Maybe...
that’s what they want you to believe.
by ghostofErikThompson on May 25, 2009 9:52 PM CDT up reply actions
It's not "fixed", it's "rigged".
It’s not like they go all Pro Wrestling and decide beforehand who will win, they just do everything in their power to give the bigger starts/teams an advantage with the way they call the games.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam,
you’d be much better off if you assumed McCarthy’s new take on life…
“Stop focusing on focusing, dude.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Chi Sox
11-3 vs. the Angels.
Glad we’re not the only ones that are getting blown out.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
They play 162, don't they?
I do believe the sun is going to rise tomorrow and if we’re lucky, the beer will be cold.
Relax.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
i don't think adam can control that
can he?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I just saw those commercials for the first time right now
I’ve heard about them, but since I don’t watch any NBA coverage, I guess I haven’t seen them yet. Maybe its because I haven’t seen them yet that I thought they were funny. The funniest part is how they are for a finals match-up that might not happen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Dan vs. Dave, part two.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions
i just saw that interview with birdman
really badly produced but he does come off as a cool guy. maybe the fact that he’s more bumpkins than douche makes me hate him less. not nearly as brash in that interview
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
thank god CWS is pulling away
you know, Cahill was saying that if we are just a team that beats up on bad teams that that would be enough to win the division.
Well, I’d like to see LAA lose a few more before being confident about that. Losing a series to CWS would help.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
No offense, but that's the chicken-shit way out.
No use watching this team dogpile on losers and get their ass handed to them by ‘real’ contenders
by oc on May 25, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions
you mean chicken shit way into the playoffs?
i’d be fine with any playoff birth. once you’re in, anything can happen.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
You know what?
If the Rangers win 85 games, finish first in a weak division, and get swept in three games in the ALDS, I could live with that.
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
+1
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
one step at a time
I was expecting 76-79 wins this year with improvement to 85-89 next year. If its 85-89 this year and possibly 90+ next year thats good with me.
the preceding post was a great success.
Everything Chi hits is falling in tonight.
I don’t mind Hawk Harrelson as much as some (would never be so stupid as to wish cancer on him) but I don’t like the way he calls Posednik “Pods”.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Not gambling tonight
but I still like the Lakers.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I like 'em.
In particular, the chalk commercial is interesting because it’s basically LeBron and Nike making fun of themselves.
My favorite LeBron commercial (and maybe one of my favorite sports commercials ever) is here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W6ub82yTdSM
I stopped watching basketball because the Mavericks broke my heart too many times, but as a general sports fan, it is a privilege to watch LeBron play right now. I care very little about “best ever” discussions of any kind. I’m here for the show and LBJ is very good at putting on a show.
Yes, it is a privilege to watch LeBron.
He’s a combo platter of MJ & Magic, one of the greatest players I’ve ever seen.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Kind of nice to get completely waxed...
…and still end the day right where you started because your main ALW opponent got waxed even harder.
Millwood and Holland are going to dominate and we’re going to win this series.
i wish feldman was pitching in this series and holland vs the a's
feldman had a couple good starts vs them last year.. better matchup.
the preceding post was a great success.
Birdman is a free agent
and would fit in very nice with the Mavs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
How much do you want to pay..
…a 15 minute per night energy guy?
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Really?
The full mid-level exception? For how many years?
And you’d do that for a guy who is going to be your 7th or 8th man?
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
He's a pretty solid offensive rebounder and a decent finisher
it’s not like he’s Eduardo Najera or something.
But yeah, you can probably get a similar guy with a 2nd round pick.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
He has value
I just don’t see the sense in giving him the full mid-level exception, particularly over 3-4 years (which is what he’d get).
Even if the team has given up on the “create lots of cap room for summer 2010,” I just don’t see that that makes sense.
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
The save money for the summer of 2010 idea has been debunked by dallasbasketball.com
by Dirk Diggler on May 25, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions
In which case...
…I assume that Erick Dampier’s Expiring Contract should be on the move at some point in the next few months for a useful player with an albatross deal.
by Adam J. Morris on May 25, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
I agree something like that will happen…no idea who it could be though.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 25, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
eh?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2009 5:24 PM CDT up reply actions
We can't even get a 1st rounder
to make the roster.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Maybe he's talking about
The BAE.
I honestly can’t remember if we have it this year.
by brettgardner on May 25, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Cuban capabilities and the NBA salary cap
give me tired head but the Mavs couild use a player like Andersen.
Not quite Rodman but highly effective/
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions
Not quite Rodman?
Like AJM said, the guy can give you 10-15 minutes of good play. That’s a luxury. Far greater needs for the Mavs.
by brettgardner on May 25, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions
For as long as I have watched the Mavs
they have been wide open vaginas.
Very skilled but one of the biggest pussy teams in the league.
There’s a need and place for a player like Andersen but not up to speed on the salary cap and Cuban’s willingness to spend these days.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:33 PM CDT up reply actions
It's fine to get tough
And they should, but you should also get some talent to go along with it.
by brettgardner on May 25, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Gardner
I regard Rodman as one of the best 20 NBA players I’ve seen play in the last 30 years.
Winning teams usually followed him and it wasn’t coincidental.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
OK?
Rodman was great. What’s your point? Birdman isn’t even in the same league.
by brettgardner on May 25, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions
The Mavs could use a player that does the things Birdman does.
Who the F knows what Kidd’s doing and how Cuban is positioning the team after 2010 so I’m not sure what’s going to happen but he’s the type of player the Mavs could use.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Whoa!
You’re kidding right. A guy who abandoned a decent offensive game to be a 1 trick pony. I think a lot of guys could lead the league in rebounding if that’s all they did. He’d go across the lane on FT’s and take it from a teammate.
Very good player in Detroit. A Jordanairre in Chicago.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
scoop16
Detroit was middle of the road to good before they got Rodman and then they went over the top.
Rodman went to SA and took them to the West Finals and a better record than they’d had previously (saying that without research).
Rodman was also the player that took the mid 90’s Bulls from very, very good to all-time greatness.
He was a freaking nut but he was a special player.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions
He was really good in Detroit.
I don’t want to take away from his impact there, but it was probably good timing for him also. They were stacked w/ the 3 guards, Laimbeer, Buddha had the most unstoppable post shot I’ve seen besides Jabbar’s hook and McHale’s up-and-under. No doubt though, Rodman was a big part, he cared about defense then.
Top 20 over 30 years is just too high for me. I guess you consider him a HOFer?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I agree
Top 20 over 30 years is way too high.
by brettgardner on May 25, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions
First ballot HOF without a doubt.
That 80’s Detroit team was talented but really soft and gooey, very much like the Mavs team we have watched forever…and then came Rodman.
He made everybody better, was so unique and winning teams always followed him thru Chicago. He was 6’7" 200lbs or so, was an enforcer, and would cover the best offensive player on the other team and then average 18 boards a game…plus his teams usually won.
He also made it very clear the Spurs were never going to win it all if they were depending on Robinson…and he was right.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Fair enough.
It would kill me however, to see him in the Hall before KJ, who is definitely one of the top 20 I’ve seen. That Hall is more selective than I thought, unless you’re a woman or foreigner or die young(Petrovic).
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I was remiss in overlooking
Hakeem’s ‘Dream Shake’, maybe the most dominating low post move of them all.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Without research, some of my top 20 over the last 30 years...
Magic
Kareem
Kobe
Shaq
Akeem
Jordan
Malone
Stockton
Duncan
LeBron
Erving
Kidd
Barkley
DWade
Dirk
Nash
Bird
McHale
Malone
…………………..
Rodman.
Who did I forget?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Some random names, obviously they could be debated:
Isiah
KJohnson
King
Robinson
Payton
Blackman
Dantley
Aguirre
English
Wilkins
Ewing
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Isiah gets serious consideration but he needed Rodman to get over the hump and Robinson
was a pussy until he played with Duncan.
Ewing…vomit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions
Just names to throw out there.
Isiah is a no brainer, dude was awesome. I’d have to cheat and look up some old rosters to jog the memory. I forgot one of my favorites, Robert Parish, and one of my least favorites, Pippen.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
The Admiral
was never a pussy – he just didn’t have the talent around him necessary for a championship pre-TD (except for possibly ’95, when Rodman messed up a really good team).
No way they are on a top 20 list of the last 30 years
Top 50 maybe…but not top 30.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Consider this:
ALL-TIME PLAYER WINNING PERCENTAGES:
PLAYER REG. SEASON PLAYOFFS
Larry Bird .736 .604
Manu Ginobili .724 .654
Sam Jones .718 .649
Bill Russell .717 .648
Tony Parker .716 .615
Tim Duncan .712 .631
Scottie Pippen .688 .654
K. Abdul-Jabbar .688 .650
Magic Johnson .674 .740
Shaquille O’Neal .672 .601
Robert Horry .671 .635
Michael Jordan .659 .665
Bob Cousy .655 .578
Jerry West .638 .569
And this list even includes players from before thirty years ago. Granted, Ginobili and Parker need to play a few more years to have the longevity of the others, but they have been consistent stars on what is arguably the team of the decade. After Jordan, Bryant and DWade, who would you put before Ginobili? After Magic and Stockton, who would you put ahead of Parker? (He will surpass both Nash and Kidd after playing a few more years.) If they are not top 20 of the past 30 years, (which they should be by the time they retire), then they are definitely top 25, esp. b/c of their playoff success.
Winning percentage of the team
doesn’t make an individual player great.
You’re honestly saying that Manu is the 4th best SG of the last 30 years? REALLY?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Manu and Parker
They don’t even deserve to be in any top 50 conversation.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Winning percentage isn’t everything, but it is a huge factor. Having three great players is what has made the Spurs so incredibly successful.
Manu is a game-changer who does all the little things that make the players around him better. Even as late as the first half of last season (before injuries set in), he was a top-five player in the NBA. He should have been the MVP of the 2005 Finals. I ask again, which SG would you put ahead of Manu?
Dumbest argument ever
I never would have thought that the dumbest argument I’d read over here would be Manu and Parker being top 50 players because of their team’s winning percentage.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Ok this is actually rather easy
Jordan, Kobe, Wade, Gervin, Iverson, Drexler, Pierce, Miller, and Dumars would all easily be ahead of Manu on a top 50 list right now. There’s probably a few more, but that’s all I got off the top of my head.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 26, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I already said the first three guys are the Top 3. I love the Iceman (I actually think that he was the greatest offensive producer ever), but his problem is that he was a terrible defender. That’s also the problem with the other guys that you listed (and Iverson was also a ball hog who turned his teammates into spectators), with the exception of Drexler and Dumars. But Manu has a better PER than either one of them, and has shot the three-pointer better than they did (they were even worse in the playoffs, with Clyde going down to a paltry 29%!). All three of them were great players, but if I had to choose one of them in their primes, I would definitely take Manu over the other two. For me Manu is clearly at #4, and he isn’t finished yet!
well you said
“which SG would you put ahead of Manu”
So I listed them all.
To say Manu is “clearly” the 4th best SG of all time is really just stupid. There are about 10 guys who are at least in the conversation with him if not better.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 27, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
4th best of the last 30 years
whatever….
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 27, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions
You made your statement that there are about 10 guys right there with him, so now make your argument as to why or in what ways they are better.
I don't really care enough to do that
It’s not even worth my time if you really think that Manu is a better player than all those guys. There won’t be any changing of your mind. Have fun being a massive homer though.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 27, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Your list of names wasn’t very convincing, esp. b/c you didn’t provide any supporting evidence. I might be a homer, but this opinion about Manu’s greatness is much wider than you think.
Is it?
He’s a good player, don’t get me wrong.
Just last year ESPN writers voted on the best SG’s of all time.
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-GreatestSGs
Manu got 4 votes and finished 20th. Granted that is all-time and not the last 30 years — but there are alot more than 3 recent players ahead of him in that voting.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 27, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions
First of all, don’t trust ‘experts’ at ESPN to be your final source of authority (I just saw a list where Manu was fifth all-time). Second, of course Manu’s not going to get many votes on such an all-time list when he had only played in the NBA for six years at the time. But notice how the guys on that list basically fall in line according to the PER stat. Yet Manu’s career PER of 21.5 is tied with Iverson and better than all the others of the last 30 years not named Jordan or Bryant. Why do you think it is that the guy with the fourth all-time highest PER is somehow ranked 19th? And he already has three championships. We’ll see what this list looks like in a few years, or when Manu retires.
That post was merely
to demonstrate that it is not a widely held belief that he is THAT good. If it was, I don’t think it’d be unreasonable to expect a group of people who follow the NBA to at least put him in the top 10 in that vote.
It’s obvious that you have your mind made up, so I don’t really see what the point of continuing this is.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 27, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I gotta give the Spurs their due.
4 time champs is awesome. But, you don’t honestly think they have 4 of the 20 greatest players from the last 30 years, do you? Popovich, however should be in the top 5 at the least.
I loved Gervin, one of my all time favorites, but greatest offensive producer leaves out a guy named Jordan.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I’m not sure who you’re including as the fourth Spur – the Iceman, or Robinson? But regarding the current Big Three, I think that they belong in the 25 best of the last 30 years.
Re. Ice, maybe I should re-phrase that to say that no one else could score in as many different ways as he could.
I assumed Robinson since
Ice kinda bridges that 30 year line. I don’t doubt those guys could be in the convo when all is said and done. However, others will have to be considered by then, which makes Top 25 premature, IMO. Guys like Paul, Howard, Deron Williams, Durant, et al.
Ice, Jordan, healthy BKing, WDavis…A lot of guys w/ different avenues to score. I have no problem w/ Ice being the choice.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Robert Horry must be smiling at this.
Right ahead of Jordan, Cousy, and West.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
McHale
I always wonder … remove Bird and what? Not saying, just saying.
by robert_d_wilfong on May 26, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
The attention that guy is getting drives me crazy.
Since when do announcers constantly call some average player by a nickname?
Im sure hes a decent player but its not like hes a starter but at least statwise he hasn’t really done anything.
the preceding post was a great success.
Andersen is not an average player
Maybe he is being used to max-effectiveness in Denver but he is definitely useful.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions
So what is the general consensus on the starting rotation now?
Meaning, which 5 should it be?
I think it should be:
Millwood
Padilla
McCarthy
Feldman
Holland
Put Harrison in long relief (starter #6 if any of the first 5 gets hurt or struggles too much).
You don't overreact to one start
for the better or for the worse. Holland has experience as a reliever, you keep him there unless Harrison absolutely implode. Show some fucking patience.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Yep.
Just leave things as is pre Padilla injury. If you find a taker for Padilla later, move him and problem solved.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
I'm not overreacting to one start.
Harrison has a 5.43 ERA. It’s nice that he had a hot streak against some weaker-hitting line-ups, as even that was more than I thought he had… but still, his year on the whole has been, well, 5.43 ERAish.
I just think the other 5 are better.
One bad start against the yankees and you're already ready to ditch Harry?
Geezus.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
He has a 5.43 ERA, fwiw.
That didn’t come from just one bad start. It came from several of them.
I’m not saying to DFA him, fwiw. Just make him the long reliever and Holland the #5.
He's bounced back from a stretch of being pretty bad this year to look brilliant for a little while
Now he’s coming back to earth again. I guess I get where you’re coming from (I’m kind of the same way with Feldman) but I think you’ve got to stick with Harry in the rotation awhile longer, see if he can bounce back from this start like he did his first few starts of the season.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
Big time 3 by Chauncey
what a bleeping trade.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Denver doesn't get thru NO
with Iverson playing the point for the Nuggets.
Disagree.
This is a smarter team now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions
It was good for Denver, too.
But Detroit cleared his shitty contract for an expiring, and that’s very valuable in the NBA, particularly when rebuilding.
by brettgardner on May 25, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions
For them it was horrible.
For Denver it was fine.
Finding a place to unload a contract like that in it’s entirety is tough, even for a guy as good as Chauncey.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Haha
close up and slow motion of JR Smith shouting Fuck Yeah
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
indulge me
JTull “Thick as a Brick” just came on XM while I’m watching the NBA and dilly dallying on LSB.
Did I mention I opened a couple of beers tonight?
Life is good.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
It's gotta take a lot of beers
to enjoy flutes in Rock.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Tull is a lot like jazz and good in quick dosages.
Neil Young, After The Gold Rush now on. 70’s rnr heart purrrrrrrrrrrrrring.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 25, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Am I the only one who knows this guy is Hurler Hurley part duex?
No one else seems to realize it.
I feel like I’m taking crazy pills.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 26, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
They just got swept over the weekend by the freaking Padres.
That’s gotta sting.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
the padres have won 10 straight
so i imagine its not that big of a deal
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Hmn, didn't know that
I know they are outperforming their pythag by 4 games though. They’re like the Angels of the NL West, getting it done with a bunch of scrubs this year.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
Bullshit technical on Lakers
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Van Gundy had it right earlier
The NBA is out of control with their technicals.
My solution…
If they wanna solve the issue, give 2 FTs and possession.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
one of my fav commercials
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uiWyly2oMc
the Nike “Fate” commercials
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
with the estacy of gold as the backgroudn music
the good, the bad and the ugly soundtrack is pretty epic
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 25, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
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