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Does anyone here still look at a player's batting average?

When I look up a players stats I always ignore the batting average stat and instead look straight to OBP and SLG.  I have no idea what the batting average is for any MLB player.  When a news article or a blog mentions a players BA I gloss over it. 

When I see a player's BA flashed on a TV when they come up to bat I pay no attention to it.  In fact, sometimes I'm shocked because I know a player is having a good year with OBP but their BA is awful. 

Batting Average just seems to be a wasted stat that shouldn't be taking up space in print, on a scoreboard, or on a TV screen.  It also shouldn't be use by writers **coughRichardDurrettcough** to show how a player is performing. 

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Yes, I do

I like to look at it and note the spread between it and the OBP. I’m happy when players have about a 70 point spread between the two, the more the better. As with all baseball stats, the more numbers you look at together, the better idea you’ll have of their performance. No one number tells the whole story in player evaluation. (unless that number is 5 HRs hit in one game or something…)

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by t ball on May 26, 2009 9:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

agree 100%

there is no end all be all stat, and AVG/OBP/SLG are nice to know in relation to each other.

by Royal Swine on May 26, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

70 points huh...

so I guess Marlon Byrd’s 20 point spread ain’t cutting it….282/.302

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by BigGuns on May 26, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nope.

Means his plate discipline is virtually nonexistent. If you’re getting on base hardly more than your average suggests, then you’re swinging too much.

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by utlonghorn24 on May 26, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Historically

he’s had around a 60 point spread. I don’t know if its small sample size or what this year.

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by DJCahill on May 26, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

he’s been surprisingly bad in that department this year. I would have been much less surprised if his avg. had slumped but he kept that spread.

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by t ball on May 26, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still enjoy

good old fashioned Triple Crown numbers along w/ the current ones.

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by scoop16 on May 26, 2009 9:53 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Batting average is interesting to me too

It gives me an idea about how good they are when they aren’t walking. Walks are a less variable aspect of the game – a guy who walks 30 times a year or a 100 times a year is going to do that hot or cold. Batting average gives you an idea how the guy is doing in the short term – saying Chris Davis is batting .050 in the last week, or Kinsler is batting .160 on the road and .420 at home is far more intuitive than the respective OBP numbers for me. Sure, OBP gives you the same thing, but I just prefer to eliminate the contribution of walks to a guy’s isolated performance ups and downs.

I don’t think you should ever look at batting average to judge his value without the context of a player’s OBP. But then again, I don’t think that you should ever look at any one stat in isolation.

PhD

by JBImaknee on May 26, 2009 9:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

OBP-AVG seems to be relatively constant for a player. Once the sample size gets large enough, it normally only moves +/- 10 points or so the majority of a players career.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 26, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some interesting thoughts in this thread

I appreciate the comments. I may have to start looking at the OPB-AVG stat. Maybe it’ll grow on me.

by northtexan95 on May 26, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

There are much better stats out there than OBP and SLG too

wOBA is starting to be one that I prefer using all the time (though not enough people are that familiar with it yet). EQA is good too, but I don’t like going to BP to get it over Fangraphs. I still use the BA/OBP/SLG which gives a nice idea of how the player is doing and everyone is familiar with it as well as knows what a good or bad line is, but it is far from the best out there.

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by Gdawg on May 27, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

One of the things that makes a good stat in my mind

is its transparency, and whether you can calculate it from a box score.

OBP and SLG win on that score, because its fairly easy to calculate them.

A lot of these newer stats, they don’t publish the formula, which decreases their value in my mind.

"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 27, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm new to baseball...

Haven’t ever gave baseball a shot until the past couple of years. Over the last couple of months I’ve been struggling trying to find a home team. Been mostly taking a look at averages and ERAs of just about every player on every team. Although this is slightly off topic, being a native Texan, born and raised, I’m glad I decided to make the Rangers my team.

by TheBigChadski on May 31, 2009 11:02 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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