Tom Hicks open to selling a majority share of Texas Rangers
Despite saying time and again over the past few months that he is only willing to sell a minority portion of the Rangers franchise, Tom Hicks told the FWST that he is now open to exploring other options, including selling a majority share of the team.
"I am selling part of the Rangers. I don’t know how big of a part. Yes, I’d be open to selling more than a minority share, but it depends on who the partners are."
The article, by none other than Randy Galloway, goes on to suggest that Nolan Ryan and his business partner might be interested in making a deal with Hicks. After the media masses were done with the Rangers' owner, they immediately moved over to Ryan, who had this to say:
"Knowing nothing about what the details are, and having not been involved in discussions [about being a majority owner], there’s no way I can comment on any of this," Ryan said.
Would it be something he would now explore?
"That’s hard to say," Ryan added, "without having talked to Tom about it."
Could you imagine the media insanity if Nolan Ryan bought a controlling interest in the Texas Rangers?
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Well
this does brighten our day after a tough loss.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Hicks would figure out a way to screw us
Ross Perot Jr would be the managing partner or something.
by Brett Perryman on May 28, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Ugh. There are plenty of reasons to bitch about Hicks, but that sort of blinds us to the fact that there are far worse alternatives out there.
I’m not enthused about Nolan, fwiw.
I don’t know that he’s got the money to run this thing like we’d all like. Though of course I’ve never seen his bank records and I don’t know what sort of partners he could wrangle up to back him.
However, I think this is prolly much ado about nada.
I suppose we’ll see.
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Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 28, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'd have to assume
Nolan wouldn’t be fronting much of the money. He’d be an authority figure and decision maker, but the big bucks would come from his ‘Business partner’.
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by Conjunction on May 28, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd assume he's worth a pretty healthy amount of money
He was a pretty successful businessman since he stopped playing in the Majors. And also like Conjunction said, he’s probably just going to be the main guy in charge but with silent business partners helping him out with the money. I’d love it if Nolan is the main guy in charge with Hicks and some others just opening up their check books for Nolan to use.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
I'd prefer a cash rich owner willing to sit back and let the GM run things.
I worry about Nolan and what his involvement level would be a little bit.
Though I must say that he’s been quite level-headed since being here.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 28, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions
I would have been worried 2 years ago
Now, I’d really like to see him be the main guy in charge even if that means having a few business partners around. He’s developed a good relationship with JD and obviously trusts him to run things. He is a guy I’d feel safe with owning team knowing that he wouldn’t want to come on board and shake things up just because he can.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Not outright I don't think
He’d need approval from Hicks. But I’d bet he could get it if he wanted it.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
The reality is we don't know.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 28, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, if all we talked about
was what we knew, it’d be a boring community.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
Well how do we talk about what we don't know
when we don’t know what we don’t know?
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by inactive lsb user on May 28, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions
As far as the non-meddling part
the current Tom Hicks isn’t that bad. I’d forget he even owns the team if not for JW’s semi-daily rants against him. But still, he shows that disturbing tendency to fall in love with random ideas – like Nolan Ryan, president.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I think it would be a good thing if Nolan was involved in this
He seems to believe in JD’s plan — I would hate if some random outside guy came in and blew it all up and changed direction. It’s a wild card that you can’t really control — but I think you know what you get with Nolan.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 7:38 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know...
I have a feeling this isn’t going away. Like someone else said, there is probably more going on with the bad finances than we’ve even heard about. I doubt something happens in the middle of the season though.
Not really.
This sounds messy.
I’d much rather hear about Hicks buying seven small islands in the South Pacific cause he’s crazy cash rich all of the sudden and how GW pulled some strings and got the Rangers some of that sweet bailout money to spend on FA’s this winter.
Obviously there’s a nice upside if some rich baseball loving gazillionaire buys the club and starts pumping cash into every facet of the orginization.
But there’s also some pretty big downside to having an unsettled ownership and financial situation at such a critical time in our club’s history.
We have a chance to be really good for a long time.
I’d hate to see something screw that up.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 28, 2009 12:23 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree
When owners are forced to sell teams because of financial problems, you see weird things, like San Diego begging people to trade for Peavy, and then begging Peavy to accept the deal.
I don’t want the Rangers trynig to dump MY to make the team more palatable to a buyer, and “paying” someone to assume Young’s contract by throwing in, say, Feliz…
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
i think business wise, its not the best time to sell the rangers
during this season
they are in a pretty bad divison, and more than likely wont finish last — and have a fair chance to win the divison or be in the division race at the end of the season which would jack their price up imho
i think there is a VERY small chance he sells the rangers before the end of the year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Obviously there would be a group involved
But nolan himself doesn’t actually have all that much money does he?
the preceding post was a great success.
Also
Randy Galloway is a hack and I hope he contracts syphilis.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
maybe his grumpiness
is from the fact that his junk has rotted off then. That makes a lot of sense, actually.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Nah
His grumpiness and dickiness (the act of being a complete dick) led to no woman wanting to touch him with a 10 foot pole. Even most hookers. Thus, Galloway had to go to the slums of Oak Cliff to get the job done. Best 15 bucks he ever spent, or so he thought.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
*
Galloway says that he thinks that Hicks values the team at $600 mill, but nobody would buy it… Your right, but would somebody or some group buy $450 mill of the team, or 75%, yes they would. I guarantee there are at least a couple offers in this vacinity right now.
The other thing that I smell about this whole thing is that I bet the Rangers everyday operating costs are not going to be met as things are right now. I bet this team is financially in more trouble than we have been led to believe.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on May 28, 2009 12:16 AM CDT reply actions
Galloway says that he thinks that Hicks values the team at $600 mill, but nobody would buy it… Your right, but would somebody or some group buy $450 mill of the team, or 75%, yes they would. I guarantee there are at least a couple offers in this vacinity right now.
This is funny, because Forbes valued the entire club at just $405 million last month, meaning that you’d be paying above market value for the whole club while just getting 75% of the club. That’s stupid.
by Andy Seiler on May 28, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Im sure
that Hicks is going on his own numbers in negotiations of the sale and isnt worried about what some magazine sais about the value of his team.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on May 28, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Evan
just confirmed in his article that the teams asking price would be around $600 million, no lower than $500 mill, so again my point of a 75% purchase of team for around $450 mill would still fit well.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on May 28, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Why would someone pay that much for only 75% of the club?
If I value something at 10$ I sure as hell ain’t going to pay 10$ for only part of it.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Nice timing
True businessman- selling high.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Sarcasm?
I can’t think of a worse time to have to sell of a huge luxury asset like this.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on May 28, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions
A little of both
The high being first place.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Eh
probably not.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
+1
A year ago I would’ve said yes, but after a year of having him around, hearing some of the suggestions he’s made as team prez… nah. I fear he’d be too meddlesome for his own good.
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
Too gimmicky.
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by Brandon Worley on May 28, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
i dont think he could flat out buy it honestly
i think it would be a bill veeck-like situation where nolan maybe got the $$ together and was the “baseball guy” who ran the club day-to-day
by the way, another plug for “veeck as in wreck” — bill veeck’s autobiogrpahy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Nolan and "W."
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on May 28, 2009 12:44 AM CDT reply actions
Hmmmmmmm
Josh: Hey and welcome to texas rangers baseball! Before we get started we have a few things to tell you about it. Tom Hicks sold the team earlier and the new owners are Nolan Ryan and Bushy bush.
Tom: Yeah josh pretty big news.
Josh: You know what else is big? Texas and we’ve got a ballgame to play tonight here in Texas. We’ll have your first pitch after the break.
A few minutes later.
Josh: Welcome back folks. It appears there is a delay on the field. The new owner of the team George W. Bush apparently is making the umps search the opponents dugout for WOMD or this case Corked bats.
Tom: Yeah, I don’t know if someone tipped him on them having some or what. It’ll be interesting to see if any are found.
A few more minutes pass.
Josh: Well it appears now that they found no corking, but Bush refuses to leave the field. We’ll play ball hopefully sometime tonight. We’ll send you to regular programming now and keep you updated.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on May 28, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I lol'ed.
I wonder if he’d have the Rangers waterboarded if they lost?
by JBP on May 28, 2009 5:49 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
re: waterboarding
playboy guy did it recently
his quote:
Man: At any point and time you want to stop and you’re unable to speak drop the object and I will immediately stop.
Mike: Should I practice it?
Man: Go ahead.
Mike: Okay it’s loud.
Man: Can we get a time on that? Cause I think you just lost your money.
Mike: My heart is beating like a thousand miles a minute right now.
Man: Carbon dioxide.
Mike: 20 seconds…I don’t know how long that was 5 or 6 seconds but 20 seconds is totally not doable. Your brain starts flipping out. The second you get water I your nose and your feet are elevated like that there’s no…you can’t rationalize your way out of it that you’re just in a room with a couple of guys with cameras. It’s pretty intense. You feel like you’re in deep, deep shit. Really in deep, deep shit. There’s no jeopardy for me. The worst thing that can happen to me is that I have a heart attack and he has to get me back to life. But I mean you know if the jeopardy is either you talk or you die no one is going get you back to life again. Maybe it is torture.
video link
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
link fail
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/04/20/playboy-journo-bets-he-ca_n_189280.html
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Hah.
I love how he talks about how horrible it is, then says that “maybe” it’s torture.
I’m still waiting for Hannity to get waterboarded. I would pay money to watch that.
hannity
i am really conservative (as most people know) and hannity is, quite simply, a douchebag of the highest degree.
he used to be someone that was actually worth watching as a journalist (were talking 6+ years ago) but he is even worse than rush in my book. and i dont care for rush either fwiw (never listened to a min of him on the radio or anywhere else)…
that said, if he or anyone else is going to keep going down the road they are going down, then they need to at least try it…they are undermined as hell by screaming “no its not…” then not doing it when some ahve offered to. now im not saying that he should let ventura do it, that would be just dumb dumb dumb but if he did it in a situation like in the video above then that is something they shuold consider. he and rush are some of what is wrong with the republican party
my personal viewpoint aside, i think we should stop this convo here before it shoots into a political convo lol but suffice to say that i do agree with you about hannity and how , if hes gonna bitch and moan about how its not torture he neeeds to at least consider doing it…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions
These...
aren’t the Tom Hicks Rangers
by ghostofErikThompson on May 28, 2009 12:52 AM CDT reply actions
He's said before he has no interest in the Rangers
I think he wants a big name club if he’s going to buy one. Plus, the owners likely would never approve him anyway.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions
My guess is
that a hard bargainer could do quite well with the Rangers. I think when you look at the Farm system and the current state of the economy, the trajectory is nothing but up. From a business standpoint, I think the only real issue with the club is it is loaded with Debt.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
True
I think Cuban is more selective though. If he could get past the owners, I think he’d want a premier franchise — not one that hasn’t won crap in 30 plus years.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Yes, I know
But the fact that he went after the Cubs tells me he’s not interested in a lesser franchise. He could’ve bought a lesser franchise many times (assuming the owner’s approve him) but he didn’t — he went after a big time club.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
premier franchise who have won
usually aren’t for sale. the Cubs selling was based on the Tribune Company and their bankruptcy issues.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Well that's beside the point isn't it?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 8:54 AM CDT up reply actions
I am not arguing your larger point because its probably correct
But the cubbies are not exactly having to expand their trophy case for yet another WS trophy. But, I agree, they are a premier franchise. I would think more because of all the years on WGN. If it was just winning that counts I would rather have the Rangers future than the cubbies
Yeah, sure
But, the Cubs’ popularity transcends winning. In fact they are popular mainly because they haven’t won. Ha.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions
DD
in fact they are popular mainly because they haven’t won. Ha.
a la boston red sox pre WS
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
now the Sox are a different animal. They win plus they have a massive bandwagon. Ugh.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 28, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Is Hicks cheap?
I have had my problems with Hicks but I don’t know if I completely buy into the Hicks is too cheap rant completely. People just look at the major league payroll and say that he is not spending the money. However, I don’t think people factor in the amount that the Rangers are now spending in Latin America and in the draft.
My fear is that with a new owner we would go back to wanting instant results and screw developing our own talent. I like where the Rangers are right now and where we are going.
I’m not a big Hicks fan but he has finally bought into the idea of developing talent.
Hicks
Well, Habib on the DMN message boards says “tom too cheap hicks sucks,” so clearly, it must be true.
Seriously, though, he could be a lot worse. It’s not like he’s Drayton McLane or Carl Pohlad.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Or Jeffery Loria
"Hi, I’m a fucking horsefaced moron." - John Lackey to Ian Kinsler, 5/16/09
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph on Matt Harrison
Jeffery Loria is brilliant...
He gets the other owners to pay him to own a MLB team. I wish I had thought of that.
loria
may be a bad owner but hes a brillant businessman
its not like FLA is gawd aweful either…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions
agreed
i’d be worried, in the same sense if JD was fired, because some new GM thinks they have to come in and shake things up, which means trading alot of our prospects for 1 or even 1/2 year rentals.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Hicks finally bought into the idea of developing talent
only because it is a less expensive route.
The way to win consistently over the long-term is to develop some of your own (keeping the right players), making good trades and then signing the right free agents. Philadelphia should be a nice model for the Texas Rangerws.
The teams that don’t keep their own players, don’t sign the right free agents and maintain small market payrolls have a difficult time winning consistently plus their attendance is usually very mediocre (even when the team wins).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
if i use Philly as a model
I’m not signing Chan Ho. That immediately takes them off my list. And, philly’s biggest impact players came from their farm system (Utley, Howard, Hamels, to name a few)
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
I also believe
the Texas Rangers are one of the biggest sleeping giants in professional sports.
If you got the right owner in here and tasted a little bit of success, 3 million people+ a year would make that nut-kicking trip to TBiA every year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I agree
the Rangers tasted two weeks of winning and they are nearly selling out. A team that consistently wins will bring in big crowds.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
There's too much smoke
for there not to be something to this. For once I agree with Galloway that I bet something significant happens before the end of the season. It would seem like an odd time to sell, though. Even though the economy is in the tank still it will more than likely rebound in the next couple years. Plus this is a franchise that is on the uptick. If we start winning in the next couple years, wouldn’t the value only increase. If Hicks is looking to get out now then his financial problems must be more significant than anyone has let on.
"We live, we die, and the wheels on the bus go round and round." - Tony Romo
The timing is not Hicks' choice, though
because of his debt situation he needs to do something sooner rather than later.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Hicks has to repay the Liverpool loan in July
I think he is in more financial trouble than we have been led to believe.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Does anyone know the amount of the next payment due in July?
I mean, are we talking $10 million or $110 million due in July? Obiously Hicks doesn’t have the cash on hand, but how leveraged is his ownership in the Rangers already? My fear is that if he misses the July payment the Rangers ownership may be turned over to some bank. And we all know what happen to the houses that the banks own – they sit idle, not being sold or lived in. Banks refuse to let them go for what they think is less than the value they have invested in them.
If a bank takes ownership of the Rangers and does not sell them before the end of the season, expect no free agents signings – internal or external, no more Latin American investments, and no capital improvements to the stadium. In other words, disaster.
So I hope the amount Hicks owes on the July loan payment for Liverpool is not too large.
by Mark from OC on May 28, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions
The amount is $511.5 million
but i’m not sure which portion is his as he shares ownership with Gillett. Either way, 50% of that is a heck of a lot of cash due on July 24. This was a 6-month extension as well.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Should be half
He and Gillett each own 50% of the club.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
This is not good news
It is hard to imagine the banks give him a second extension even though they have little interest in holding onto a (or 2) sports franchise.
by Mark from OC on May 28, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions
and that he has a history of defaulting if they dont renegotiate
the default of the rangers makes this even more interesting
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
I would rather whatever is going to happen to Hicks
happens sooner than later because this team may need to take on some salary at the trade deadline.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I can't imagine that they could get a sale completed that quick
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
While my initial reaction is Yippee, no more Hicks,
there are many ways this could turn out badly for the fans. No guarantee that a new owner would be less stupid than Hicks. We can hope that if Ryan gets control he would be as positive in the long run as he has so far, but we just don’t know.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
I think
Hicks has been so stupid and so incompetent that I’m more than willing to take a chance on somebody else.
There’s a reason he was recently voted the second worst owner in MLB.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Hicks
He’s also probably the second-best owner this team has had, behind the previous regime.
Not that that’s saying a whole lot, when you compare him to people like Bob Short and Eddie Chiles, but still, it’s a reminder that others could be worse. Like I said above, at least we don’t have Drayton McLane or Carl Pohlad.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Yeah, in general
I’m more comfortable with the Devil I know, than the Devil I don’t. There are too many Jeffrey Lorias who are happy to invest as little as possible, and live off the money given from MLB.
"I'd praised catcher Max Ramirez two weeks ago, but after his continued struggles I'm increasingly convinced he's not going to pan out." - crops.mlblogs.com
McLane and Pohlad (who I believe is dead)
have and have had (if Pohlad is no longer with us) their issues but their teams have consistently won this decade.
Not sure what McLane is doing these days (an old mediocre team is the worst thing you can have) but he’s had a market appropriate payroll in the past and when his team was in a position to contend, he didn’t put away the checkbook.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
There's more to being an owner than just signing checks
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
depends what kind of owner you are
but overall, yes
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I don't know if anyone read this but in a story written by Tim Kurkjian last week, shows that Evan Longoria is the baddest man on the planet
Longoria is so gifted at the plate, he takes batting practice against a machine that fires tennis balls — some of them marked with a black spot, some with a red spot — up to 150 mph. At 100 mph, he can identify the color of the ball that’s coming, then will hit the black ball to the opposite field, and pull the red ball.
I heard Chris Davis does something similar
if its a black ball, he swings and misses, and if its a red ball, he swings and misses.
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by DJCahill on May 28, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
then he sets the ball on a Tee and swings and misses
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Ryan would need a investment group
He doesnt have the capitol as it is now… Im sure also that a lot of his money has been invested in the recent upgrades to the Hooks stadium in CC, as well as much of his liquidity in both of those clubs everyday processes.
Could Nolan be part of a group, sure. Would he be the primary stock holder in the group, no. Probably not close either.
My guess here is that Hicks ends up selling to a bunch of small individual owners, somewhere around 40-60% of the team, spreading out some debt and raising some new capitol and then when he sells Liverpool, which I almost guarantee he will very soon, he will be in a much better situation financially to regain control of the Rangers. What would make me very happy is if he sells the Stars outright, and invests solely in the Rangers as his big league team. He could buy back the team from his partners again, and then the Hicks family will hold the team forever. Im serious here, I like Hicks as owner. I would much rather have him than some guy that has a total worth of $700 mill and buys the team and is scrambling to meet interest payments and cant invest in the teams needs such as ballpark upgrades and scouting and development costs.
This is our year.
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by FormerLSBUser on May 28, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions
hicks
he def. overextended himself btwn liverpool, the rangers and the stars imho
but then again he did buy liverpool before the global economic downturn IIRC
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by knockoutking on May 28, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Apparently
the Liverpool purchase was made completely outside of Hicks Holdings, and it looks as if it was Gillette’s and Hick’s own money not either one of their investment groups, so in this instance it was more of a seperate initity than an additional franchise for Hicks. If he could find a way to own Liverpool outright and then use that revenue to supplement his own income, that would certainly free up some capitol for the Rangers and Stars and the Hicks Holdings areas. I doubt he would share some revenue between the franchises, but its possible.
Best case scenario: Owns all three outright, pays off all debt, and is able to finance a new stadium for Liverpool.
Likely scenario: Hicks sells his half of Liverpool to that Saudi guy that was interested and takes that money and pais his Hicks Holdings debt.
This is our year.
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by FormerLSBUser on May 28, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Hicks and LFC loan and its effect on the Texas Rangers
In London, Mike Norrish reports Hicks and Gillett reportedly by January have to repay a US$536.6M loan to RBS and Wachovia. Harris said, “What normally happens in business is, if the banks won’t finance, you have to raise equity.”
English Premier League (EPL) club Liverpool FC co-Owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett have been “granted a six-month period of grace to repay” their US$511.5M loan to the team’s lenders, Wachovia and the Royal Bank of Scotland (RBS), according to Matt Scott of the Manchester GUARDIAN. The loans, provided in January ‘08 as "’working capital’ to run Liverpool" and including US$87.5M toward construction of a new stadium, were due to be repaid or refinanced by January 25, but the banks have “deferred the deadline.” The deferral came “following a written request” from Hicks and Gillett, and a new deadline has been set for July 24. Scott notes while this provides “breathing space in the short term, it is unclear how RBS-Wachovia will deal with the loan in the summer.” City of Liverpool sources expect that “even if RBS-Wachovia agree to renegotiate the debt in July they are likely to demand a very large fee, which will further increase Liverpool’s indebtedness” (Manchester GUARDIAN, 1/6).
so the guy has 2 months to come up with 1/2 billion dollars or risk losing LFC, the rangers are worth about a half billion dollars…
coincidence that he’s selling the Texas Rangers? Surely not, right?
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Likely
He is also trying to sell LFC… I bet he hopes to sell about 80% of the team, and pay off debt for LFC, and then use revenue down the line to cover debts and buy back the Rangers.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on May 28, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions
If Hicks is no longer majority owner
I can finally start loving the Rangers again. Sweet!!
by GhostofGaryHogeboom on May 28, 2009 2:09 PM CDT reply actions

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