Sunday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 9:22 AM CDT
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Lost in the drama last night is that Brandon McCarthy had his best start of the season, walking no one and allowing no homers for the first time this year, and needing just 68 pitches to go five innings. If there's no rain, he probably goes 7 or 8, and we're not freaking out today about the bullpen.
Todd Wills says that McCarthy showed yesterday why the Rangers wanted him badly enough to deal John Danks to get him. And Jeff Miller talks to McCarthy and Danks about facing the teams that traded them.
Anthony Andro's game story focuses on the offense finally producing with runners in scoring position, after not seeming to be able to come through the last several games.
Jarrod Saltalamacchia was back in the lineup yesterday, and Ron Washington says the team will probably call up a backup outfielder and send Max Ramirez back down in the next few days. Kris Benson is also set to make a rehab start for Frisco today.
Taylor Teagarden, meanwhile, is adjusting to the role of backup catcher this season.
Randy Galloway has a story about Alex Rodriguez and pitch-tipping, with Michael Young defending Rodriguez, and Galloway also sharing more details of the brouhaha surrounding ARod calling pitches while he was here:
In Alex’s Texas days, the closest thing associated with any of this involved a controversy that swirled around him in 2003. But it was pitch calling, not pitch tipping. Without informing manager Buck Showalter or pitching coach Orel Hershiser, Rodriguez told new catcher Einar Diaz he would call the pitches for him.
"Buck and Orel caught on in a hurry, and a big blowup happened, particularly between Alex and Orel," said one person. "That story hit the papers, but it was bigger than even reported. Buck and Alex totally split because Alex wanted Buck to fire Orel and Buck didn’t."
Young: "I backed Alex on that. Heck, yes, I did. We had a catcher who was struggling. Alex was trying to help the team. He knew more about it than the catcher. If the pitching coach didn’t like it, he should have been on top of it."
Z takes a look at the upcoming amateur draft on the DMN blog.
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Just 3.58 pitches per batter
Figures that there has to be a huge rain delay on the night that McCarthy is doing great. Seems fitting actually.
And poor Mendoza. That guy melts down at the first signs of trouble. Also, Guardado should not be on this team anymore. The bullpen really isn’t in bad shape anymore. We just have a few terrible arms that are bringing this entire team down. FX2 is great and Jennings has been a very nice surprise out of the bullpen. CJ has been solid for the most part and O’Day has looked good too. Holland has been impressive as well even with that little blow up the other day. JD just needs to do something about Guardado and Mendoza in the bullpen.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 9:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's early and a bit knee-jerk, but Mendoza
continues to show he’s struggling with command. HBP, walk, and a flat, mid-thigh meatball down the pipe to Pierzynski. How much of a leash does he get before Thomas Diamond time? I hope he’ll be out there first in mopup duty early this season, as it’s time to find out what they have with him. Can he pull a Nelson Cruz and finally get it together at the big-league level? I damn well hope so.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on May 3, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Diamond is not the guy that should be replacing him
At least not until Diamond shows some halfway decent control.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, the people calling for diamond need to take a look at what he's done
and not done over the last year of pitching… He’s not gotten people out regurally and has walked way too many batters. I hope he gets back to where he was before all his injuries, but right now, he’s just not really there
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe, maybe not.
Mad dog with a low early ERA, but still walking guys. Tommy Hunter has been hit some, but has only allowed 4 BBs in 21+ innings while K’ing 16.
Cannons... fire them.
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by Craig T on May 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mendoza
The guy hadn’t pitched in a game in 12 days and probably got little bullpen side work because of the possibility of being used. So couple that with the rain delay and I give the guy a pass on last night. Hes gonna have to show improvement but I won’t be calling for him to be released just yet.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree, but OTOH
this guy just never looks like he really wants the ball and is in charge on the mound. I don’t get the feeling he’s ever going to be completely confident out there. I think he can pitch but I’m not sure he has the will to do so.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on May 3, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Galloway article
I hadn’t heard that the accusations of Bitch Tits pitch tipping actually came from Ranger players. Wow.
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 9:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A-Rod and pitch calling
So basically, what we get from Young there is that Einar Diaz was not only worthless with the bat, but didn’t have the ability to call a game either.
Heck of a trade there, Hart!
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by RCCook on May 3, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
haha, yea, thats not a good indicator of your game calling
when the SS decides to start calling the game, WOW. Thats really just kind of humorous to me.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Franchise Face defending Bitch Tits
Thinking about it some, it seems weird that MY’s defense for the pitch tipping is not that ARod wouldn’t do that, instead it is “if he would have done that, he would have asked me to be involved because I’m his best friend and he never asked me”.
Anyone else see that?
If you take the worst pitching staff in baseball, then add Kris Benson and Jason Jennings, what do you have???
surprise!!! You have the worst pitching staff in baseball, that's what.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
its a bromance
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If the pitching coach didn’t like it, he should have been on top of it.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he did net us Chris Young in return
doh!
by JBImaknee on May 3, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, getting Chris Young for him WAS a genius move!
I’m with RCCook!
BRING BACK HART!
BRING BACK HART!
Wait? What…? Oh, you were talking about…
Never mind.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know
I remember saying (really early on) that I thought that might be the worst trade in rangers history. flash forward a few years, and it doesn’t seem as bad. hafner, to be sure, is a great player and leaps and bounds better than diaz – but not the superstar that I thought he could be. although, i guess his only real failing is that he was kind of old when his success started and he just aged normally.
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on May 3, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True
And Hart did get Chris Young for Diaz, which almost made up for the first deal. The problem was thinking that Diaz was any kind of real option at catcher in the first place…
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by RCCook on May 3, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
maybe he valued
Ryan Drese that much…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, that helps.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on May 3, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah, he was a superstar.
You’re right on his age being our saving grace. He’s just a former superstar now.
Although he’s had a bit of a renaissance this year and seems like he remembered how to hit as long he can stay healthy.
But still nothing like his three year run of .993, 1.003 and 1.097 OPS’s in ‘04-’06.
God those years stung.
He. Was. A. Beast.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Great player" is a bit of a stretch with Pronk
“Player with a great three year run” seems more appropriate.
by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Cleveland
probably would like a do-over on that contract.
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
by DJCahill on May 3, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No doubt
They’ve done a pretty decent job with the risk management on those four year deals, but man, that would has to hurt Shapiro whenever he thinks about it.
by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 1:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But he was so Energetic!
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
by DJCahill on May 3, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Dozer bandwagon
I’ve got AJM driving, tyd riding shotgun and dirkatron and nonameoncard squarely on board.
Any others like to identify themselves?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 10:00 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bueller? Bueller?
NO thanks!! I’d rather walk.
A Rod you put the Bitch in Tits.
by BigGuns on May 3, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a nice little wagon
But truly not a lot of room on it, and very risky since it can’t finish assigned trips. Breaks down part way. Uninsurable. Trained by the WW II Italian army to fire once, drop rifles and run. Possibly fixable with the addition of powerful lubricants (like testosterone), but has the shortest warranty of any vehicle (two outs). Wheels and chassis look good, but missing a few bolts in assembly. Equipped with nice power accessories, but miswired electrical system. Not a safe ride, has airbags but they don’t inflate, they deflate.
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by Ed Coffin on May 3, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
Other than that though...
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha well said Ed as per usual..
especially the part about lacking tesosterone, well maybe we should give him a huge testoserone injection before he takes the mound either that or replace his balls that you’d find on your standard gnat with ones of substance.
A Rod you put the Bitch in Tits.
by BigGuns on May 3, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm pretty clearly not on it.
I’ll be driving the Matt Harrison bandwagon a few hundred yards behind to pick y’all up the next time you careen off the road disastrously.
by JBImaknee on May 3, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm still steering the BMac bandwagon
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on May 3, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So does Teagarden start
because Harrison is pitching?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind it
Harrison seems like exactly the type of guy who needs the right catcher back there right now.
by JBImaknee on May 3, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you DH Max?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm, possibly
cuz salty can be backup catcher still.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock to 1B, Max DH
and Crush rides the pine?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough lefty on the mound today
I’d give Blalock the day off.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crush is the one hitting .190
v. leftys and Blalock was huge last night.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all
I’ve been supporting Blalock here all season. I know how he did last night and loved it. But he also was facing a righty starter and a crappy LH RP.
And someone as intelligent as you should know that a) BA doesn’t tell the whole story and b)Blalock’s .644OPS against lefties is worse than Davis’ .701 OPS vs. lefties. You should also know that Blalock isn’t going to be here next year. He’s here to help us win more games this year, not to develop into a better hitter or anything like that. With that being the case, having him against a good lefty like Danks isn’t like to help this team win. Davis should not be the one getting benched. He needs to be playing everyday since he is developing as a player and should not be put into any type of platoon role (even a small one).
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gdawg,
Are we trying to win games today or develop young players for down the road?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both
With the tiebreaker on decisions being the future. With how Davis and Blalock have performed this year, you should go with the player who is better defensively as well as the one who has been hitting better against lefties
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This philosophy of "both"
how’s that been working out in the standings and with attendance?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
DMN says
Teagarden is starting.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This would've been his normal
day to start anyway (usually every 3rd game or so)
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 3, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call back to yesterday, Adam
Blalock is 3 for 8 lifetime v. Thornton and still would have been a helluva ph option.
Couldn’t find any ab’s Blalock has had v. Danks.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what does that have to do with my post?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 3, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't read anything you write, Diggler
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on May 3, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So why bother with a reply?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are you bothering to reply to him?
He’s a nonsensical insane person.
You may as well ask my grass why it’s green or ask my dog why she sometimes sits down and barks at that tree.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i bet your dog has a better reason for barking
Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder
by ab03 on May 3, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm hoping that one day
I’ll finally get an answer as to why he has yet to learn how to use the reply button. Its very silly of me, but if that day comes…
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wagon has one highlight
Mendoza always has his gas can with him to refuel for you.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on May 3, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ill ride for a while
but then again I am the driver of the Nippert bandwagon… So maybe I am just a sucker
by laxtonto on May 3, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Haven't heard anything about him in a while
What’s the latest on the Nip.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll jump on.
I love a good trainwreck.
They have to use him regularly-his sinker will be better when he is a little tired, according to baseball lore.
Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
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by randyd on May 3, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
hell, if we're playing
bumper cars, Im on board.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Throwing Orel under the bus?
That’s some of the weakest shit I’ve heard.
MY, again, proving his douchiness. What a team player, guys!
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Orel
Not exactly the most stand-up guy during his time in Texas.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm
could you be specific?
I wasn’t reading as much about the team then as I do now.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was part of the Fuson backstabbing
Lobbied pretty hard to replace John Hart himself.
Then once he didn’t get the g.m. job, actively was working to try to get a job with the Dodgers — either g.m. or manager — while basically keeping the Rangers on standby.
He didn’t make a lot of friends here.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes.
Must have been a tough time to be a Ranger, in any capacity.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow
JD emerged from the wreckage with the job.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
and thankfully so.
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have rather had a fern instead of JD
BAD Radio greatness.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stupid
Just as that whole bit was. Bob showed he doesn’t know baseball with that right there.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
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by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So it's funny as hell to you for somebody in here to wish
cancer on another person but it’s not funny for a radio show to wonder if the Rangers would have been better off with a fern as their GM instead of JD?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not funny it's stupid
Bob is better than that. Dan on the other had I would expect that from him. With the fern you are assuming they sign every FA that is on the roster. It doesn’t take into consideration trades and signings. It was a stupid bit. Plain and simple.
I see where this is going today so I will leave it at this and not respond the rest of the day. Take care Josey.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
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by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't blame you for not responding because
it’s difficult to defend publicly wishing cancer on another person
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok for the record that wasn't me ok.
Did I think it was funny? Yes kinda in a twisted way because there is no way you would say that and be serious.
I’m glad you like the fern as GM. No more of this. Have a great day.
These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
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by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Fuson backstabbing
Hasn’t Fuson been pretty much a bust?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He hasn't proven to be the all powerful genius some touted him to be when he left Oakland, no.
But he still didn’t deserve to get done the way he did here, imo.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's also never gotten full reign
not that he necessarily deserves it but I’m not sure what we know of his capabilities
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by ab03 on May 3, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which Ranger draft(s)
was he in charge?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
kinsler's, dank's
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without looking... He was the genius behind the Meyer pick too though, right?
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but, i think that is the same draft he got kinsler…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, that was '03, the Danks year.
That draft was actually pretty nice.
Danks early, then Littleton, Feldman and of course Kinsler later on.
He deserves a lot of credit for that one.
The ’02 draft was an unmitigated disaster.
Drew Meyer and Kam Loe were the cream of that fucktarded crop.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
John Barnett. I remember the nmlr’s that would say his full name because he was suppose to be good.
ET would have made that draft though…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gag every time I think about 02
In that first round, you literally could have thrown a dart at a board to make your pick and ended up with anywhere from a decent major leaguer to a legit star.
But not Grady!!!!
by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yah it hurts worse because that was one of the most ridiculously loaded first round in memory.
It wasn’t too top heavy (Bossman, Jr. was the only “Super Elite” guy, iirc), but dear god was it loaded.
Ughhhh…
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that 1st round had a lot of busts too
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some, but I wouldn't say a lot.
You’re always gonna get a handful of busts, but that draft had much better quaity than most.
Kazmir, Hamels, Cain, Loney, Swisher, Saunders, Greene, Span, Blanton, Hermida, and Saunders is pretty good for 10-30.
Seeing three TORG’s still on the board when we picked really, really hurts.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't want to come across as a fuson apologist here
because he did suck is up here….BUT
he came in here as a guy who was a ‘college’ guy, someone who probably in his interview with hicks told him the importance of drafting college players over HSers. I don’t think there was anyway he was going to make a HS kid his FIRST pick in his FIRST draft…
obviously that thought process changed a bit for his 2nd draft (although he said that Danks was one of the most polished HS pitchers he’s ever seen)
if i had to guess, if meyer was gone, he probably would have went with greene or adams or guthrie. still, not good…
Saunders, meh…and everyone else outside of Blanton where HSers….
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know everyone hates him, but Swisher and his see like 11 pitches per at bat apporach sure would look good here...
And if he really backed himself into a corner in his interview to the point where he felt like he had to limit himself to just college players, then that’s a mistake all it’s own… probably an even bigger one that the Meyer pick itself.
Although if I’m remembering right, in Moneyball he was the guy who was all hard for Bonderman, too, so I don’t think he was a strictly college guy and I don’t know why he’d’ve sold himself in such a way.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just some numbers
his 1st draft: 2 out of the first 15 picks where out of HS.
his 2nd draft: 1 out of the first 15 picks where out of HS.
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by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Id love Swisher if he played for us
It’d be nice to bat him right after Blalock and Hambone so he can balance out the pitches thrown per an inning.
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait...What?!?
I know Fuson was more partial to college players, but he wasn’t as anti-High Schoolers as you seem to insinuate. Rather Fuson is perceived as such because he is a Billy Beane disciple.
As a matter of fact wasn’t the big falling out between Fuson and Beane because Fuson took Jeremy Bonderman out of HS in the 1st round and Beane almost had a coronary because of it?
by Topgun22 on May 3, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think Fuson was a Beane disciple
Rather, I thought Fuson was part of the impediment to Beane and DePo instituting their new plan for drafting players.
by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no, his record shows it.
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by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So....
He took Bonderman in the 1st round and that means
“I don’t think there was anyway he was going to make a HS kid his FIRST pick in his FIRST draft…”
by Topgun22 on May 3, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
you didn’t read my reasoning did you. come on, don’t be dense.
And, Beane did make that pick, not Fuson.
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by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Excerpt from "Moneyball"....
“When Grady leaned into the phone to take Bonderman, Billy, in a single motion, erupted from his chair, grabbed it, and hurled it right through the wall.”
—pg. 17
by Topgun22 on May 3, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I remember laughing out loud reading that
Imagining Beane hurling his phone into the wall.
by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Err, chair?
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by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Littleton?
the 03 draft was pretty good, but I don’t know how you can include LIttleton in that group.
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anytime you get a big leaguer after the second or so round I consider that a pretty decent pick.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big leaguer?
Isn’t that a bit of a stretch?
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, not at all.
He played in the big leagues as more than just a fill-in guy.
Wes Littleton is (was) a big leaguer.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had 36 good innings in 2006
Followed that up with 48 mediocre innings in 2007, then only managed a small handful of innings in 2008. Decent control at best, low Ks, I still have yet to understand why so many people liked him so much.
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's an unremarkable relief arm.
But I don’t know how you can dispute the fact that he’s a big leaguer.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a guy who gets some innings the Majors
and pretty much sucks for most of them isn’t any more of a big leaguer than any other AAAA type.
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Except he didn't pretty much suck for most of them
Over 100 innings and an ERA below 4. And he’s 26 and will likely log some more innings before his career is up.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
Since his 2006 call-up, he’s had a 4.77 ERA in 66 IP. He’s posted a 3.3 BB/9 with a 5.2 K/9 to go along with a 1 HR/9. As a RP, what part of that is supposed to be good? He is now 26 and is walking batters like crazy in the Brewers system. He’ll probably log some more innings in the Majors before his career is up, but I doubt he does much in those innings.
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's the answer to a major league trivia question
He got the save in the 30-3 game.
by Inkara1 on May 3, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's a pretty decent relief pitcher
who will stick around.
His peripherals aren’t the best, but he’s outperformed them for long enough to make you believe he knows how to pitch ..
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by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How has he outperformed them?
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3.69 career ERA
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by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And how has he done after that great 2006?
I liked him a lot then, but there was a big potential for him to not maintain that success. And guess what happened to him after that year?
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He became Jesus?
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He found a personalized seat
equipped with heater and recliner, on the OKC shuttle.
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by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He has over 100 major league innings...
…and a 3.69 career ERA. I imagine he’ll end up adding to the innings total, as well.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Drew Myer draft I think
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by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking the same thing
He doesn’t seem to be in demand anywhere as a GM.
by twinkilling on May 3, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And neither does Hershiser.
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by t ball on May 3, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And confirmed by recent history.
Has he got another gig working for a Club? Nope…I think his boat was launched and sank right here in Arlington.
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by Rodney on May 3, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can you elaborate on that a bit?
I always thought he was good, but since I’ve been coming here and NMLR, I feel like I didn’t know the whole story
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this just fuson related?
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by ab03 on May 3, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope....
those statements by MY were more about defending his friend than defending the action of calling pitches.
by bdavison94 on May 3, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
okay, lineup i want to see tonight.
2B Ian Kinsler
CF Marlon Byrd
3B Mike Young
LF Andruw Jones
RF Nelson Cruz
DH Max Ramirez
1B Chris Davis
C Taylor Teagarden
SS Elvus Andrus
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by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 11:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
don't want to flip ramirez and davis?
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by ab03 on May 3, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would be nice
if wash was smart enough to run out a lineup of only one lefty tonight… Id like to see Max get a start tonight at DH, this seems like the perfect game for him
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would like to see
Ah I just don’t like Byrd in the 2-hole. Not much you can do though.
by cmkelly29 on May 3, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laporta gets base hit in first ab today
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by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet another 100% relevant response
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am not a 8 year old boy, and haven't been sexually abused
So no, I have not been Josey’d.
;)
by cmkelly29 on May 3, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, when me neither
just my opinion of what Wash will do. I’d rather put MY 2nd, Andruw 3rd, Cruz 4th, Marlon 5th
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by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
will = might
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by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Premature proclamation...hate it when that happens
I swear, I heard the announcers say Laporta got a hit but he hasn’t been up yet today.
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by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
seriously, its amusing when he does that
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it?
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by Chase Irwin on May 3, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it feels like someone with dementia who has no
grip on reality spouting off about random stuff to himself when i just randomly see him talking to himself in the middle of another persons conversation.
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I broke the yolk in my eggs-dang.
But my thick sliced bacon more than makes up for it.
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by Rodney on May 3, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know, sigh...
See, I’m used to brown eggs, and they have thicker shells…
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by Rodney on May 3, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Engel Beltre
Are we on our way to ruining him? I really don’t like that fact that he keeps on getting pulled for making bad baseball decisions. It would have been fine if it happened once or twice but the fact that it keeps on happening makes me wonder.
a) he’s not taking to the punishment because he’s just not picking up the game as quickly as you would like
b) he’s not taking to the punishment he’s headstrong
If it is a), then punishment would do more harm than good for one’s psyche. If it is b), then punishment is the right course of action but that doesn’t bode well for the future and some bigger punishment is probably required (demoting him maybe).
Either way, I’m getting a bit worried
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by ab03 on May 3, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Im thinking at some point
Beltre gets the demotion and either thats a big wakeup call to him and he figures it out, or he’s just another talented guy who cant figure it out.
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened?
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
caught stealing in the 5th when down by a bunch
gets pulled from the game in the 7th
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
if he’s being punished, why wait an inning after the transgression?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i should say
i’m not entirely positive it is a punishment for that reason. the only thing I can think is that you want his glove but then you don’t want him to bat.
tenuous reasoning, for sure
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by ab03 on May 3, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did he get pulled for hacking last night?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you'd have alot of 'pulling' going on at the ML level
if that was our policy
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So... what was the package NYY
offered for Gagne?
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by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bowden is the guy that Boston clearly had on the table
and JD passed on him. He is doing quite well in AAA and looked impressive in a 2 inning relief appearance vs. the Yanks last wk.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kid's would be destroyed at the ballpark.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
huh?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, Kid**
I don’t think his stuff would play well in Arlington.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what about his stuff wouldn't play well?
he has a nice k-rate, issues very few walks, and all scouting reports I’ve seen indicate plus command of a nice arsenal. BA says he’s fearless and a hard worker.
What makes you think he would be “destroyed” at our ballpark?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They like him for the same reason's they liked Ian Kennedy
And they probably would have loved Eric Hurley too, if he played for Bos or NY. Just seems like the type of guy who will lose that great command after being introduced to major league hitters. Not the type you look for to have success in our park. Not a power pitcher and doesn’t throw a sinker.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because of the flat mound?
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by RangerMad on May 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the logic of the last four posts in this thread fails me
im so confused how this happened.
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Josey is implying that Beltre is a bust
and if that is true, then the trade return from Boston for Gagne looks pretty shitty. He was wondering what the other offers were that were turned down.
At least that’s what I think.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, his stupid replies
came to the wrong post… it was confusing this shit out of me
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wrong.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on May 3, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd have as good a chance
as Hurley pre-injury to be a solid mid-rotation guy.
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by t ball on May 3, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe a bit better chance
than Hurley, now that I look at their minor league numbers.
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by t ball on May 3, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Bowden is the guy that Boston clearly had on the table
I’ve seen that written by one person. I’ve heard contrary from other folks. I don’t think it is a given that we could have had Bowden in the Gagne deal.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the one person
was the editor in chief of Baseball America. I’d say that is a reputable source, wouldn’t you?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
when multiple other sources refute it closer to the org
its pretty hard to take that as true
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are the sources that say Bowden wasn't available?
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by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im fairly certain Newberg said that bowden wasnt gonna be a part of the
deal if we wanted Bowden and I thought even JD or Theo said the same. I know that Beltre wouldnt have been in the deal if Bowden was in it.
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jim Callis said...
…in a chat session a while back that the Rangers chose Gabbard over Bowden. I haven’t heard anyone else say that it was either/or, or that Bowden was necessarily even on the table.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
have you seen anyone report that Bowden wasn't available?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have to go back and look
However, given how these things work, there’s a lot of grey area between “he is available” and “he is available.” I don’t think anyone — even Callis — is saying that the Rangers were given a choice between Beltre, Murphy and Gabbard and Beltre, Murphy and Bowden, and the Rangers took the first option.
More likely, you are deaing with a situation where the Rangers and BoSox are talking about players, and the Rangers i.d.‘d Beltre early on as someone they wanted, and were working on who else could be included in the deal, and when Bowden comes up, Theo (or whoever is talking to JD or Thad Levine on Boston’s end at that point) says, well, we might be willing to talk about Bowden, but we couldn’t do that and give you Beltre — if you want Beltre in the deal, you’re going to have to take one of these other guys.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really think Newberg or someone else said definitively
that Beltre would not have been discussed with bowden
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When it comes to the Gagne trade
we are all simply assuming things we really have zero information on. We have no idea at all who was available on that deal and we should just assess the deal that was made until and unless more information comes to light.
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by t ball on May 3, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well unless you think Jim Callis, editor of Baseball America, is full of shit
then we do have information on who was available. Michael Bowden.
Granted some of the other details are not known. But according to this source, he was clearly on the table and JD didn’t take him.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think in this case he was wrong, yes.
I just can’t believe anyone would take Gabbard over Bowden straight up.
That’s crazy talk.
And given everything else we’ve heard from sources close to the deal, I tend to believe he oversimplified a complex issue when he made that remark and ended up saying something untrue.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
It seems more likely that there was a deal involving Bowden and there was a deal involving Beltre. If you went with Beltre you couldn’t have Bowden but you could have Gabbard.
I can’t imagine Boston offering Beltre, Murphy, and Bowden OR Gabbard, nor can I imagine JD choosing Gabbard if they did.
by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my point in this whole thread is simply that Bowden was available
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The problem
youre presenting the idea in a vacuum which simply isnt realistic
by Horns130 on May 3, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's exactly what I said
Callis is full of shit. Come on. Bowden may have been available, but we have no idea under what parameters or combinations of players that involved. We have no idea. It’d be nice to have Bowden, but you can hardly fault any team for taking the package the Rangers got.
That was a good trade and it’s kind of stupid to say it should have been better.
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by t ball on May 3, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Callis quite clearly said that Bowden was available in that deal
the interpretation about what other players would or would not have been included is up for debate.
All I’m saying is that Callis indicated Bowden was available in that deal.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's not what he said
He said that the Rangers opted for Gabbard instead of Bowden. That doesn’t mean that there was necessarily a deal on the table that Boston was willing to do that included Bowden, as per my hypo above.
by Adam J. Morris on May 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's worth noting that I think Bowden was definitely talked about.
But I don’t think the “Everything else in the deal remains the same but we chose Gabbard straight up over Bowden” part of it is true.
Given what we’ve heard I think it is much more likely that JD was holding out for Beltre and Bowden entered the conversation as a possible alternative to Beltre… who was a guy Boston valued to the point that Theo nearly nixed the deal over.
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by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
M's sign Shell:
Go Rangers...don't suck...
by Kinslerhomer on May 3, 2009 12:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Brandon Inge yard.
He’s having an “All-Star year” so far.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't matter.
He can hit 60 HRs and it wouldn’t matter. He’s simply not a good player.
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by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verlander can throw hard
97, 97, 98 to Victor Martinez to get the three pitch strikeout with runners on 2nd and 3rd. Damn.
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 12:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And Laporta K'd in his first ab
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by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would too, if it was against verlander
He went up in after hitting the guy b4 Laporta with a 96 MPH FB then dropped two straight CBs in there, then K’ed him with another blazing FB… Thats a mighty tough first major league AB
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verlander has now struck out 7 of 10 batters he's faced
4 swinging, 3 looking.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verlander now has 9 K's thru 4!!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the crappy thing is he's already thrown 70+ throw 4
so he wont get a chance to go complete and rack up a rediculous number of Ks. He’s got the stuff today to put up 20 strike outs
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's faced 15 batters and thrown 72 pitches
Tip your hat to Cleveland for doing a baseball rope-a-dope because at this pace Verlander may be gone after 6 ip’s.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this games not on TV anywhere is it?
i wish i could watch this duel, Lee’s doing alright and Verlander is just rediculous right now
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by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dang, he just threw three straight 99 MPH FBs to Dave D
thats crazy for a SP… The dude has unreal stuff
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
1 K in the 5th and two weak ground balls
Verlander at 10 Ks thru 5 and in the mid 80’s on pitch count.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the guy is just flat dealing right now
sadly they somehow managed a hit off him
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it was A cabrera on a two strike breaking pitch
cuz the guy has no hit stuff right now judging by the pitch tracker
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
perfect 6th
the guy is just dealing, dialing it up whenever he needs to
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yet somehow he got crushed last year and early this year
amazing…
but he definitely has amazing stuff indeed
by Horns130 on May 3, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure how long the Brad Penny expirement is gonna last.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
BTW, didnt Crawford get off to a slow start?
cuz now he’s got respectable numbers, seems like TB will still pick up his 10 Mil option
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
talk about slow starts - Bossman Jr
174/310/219
He’s killing a couple of my fantasy teams.
Not that anybody cares about that.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah Buchholz will be in that roto spot soon, maybe the next time it comes up
he’s pitching a no-no in AAA through 4 today
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's hope so considering I just dealt for him in my AL-only league.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
who did you give up?
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aardsma.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
You want the mustache on or off? ... ... ... Too bad.
by thedirkatron on May 3, 2009 1:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pwnage
damn.
Doctor please. Some more of these.
by tricer on May 3, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's what he does
He’s fantasy baseball hitler.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
by sprite on May 3, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Most Discouraging
Much can’t be expected from Mendoza or Eddie, but I would expect that the three-hole hitter could perform a little better.
Within in the first three innings of last night’s game, the three-hole hitter strikeouts twice with a runner on 3B and less than two outs. I didn’t see the first AB, but the second AB was pitiful. He saw four pitches, none of which were above the knees, and he flailed at three of those pitches.
It does no good to have Kinsler getting on base and to steal bases if the FOTF behind him can’t put the ball in play to the proper part of the field. These are the little things which lead to my vote of “no confidence” in this team.
by T Coleman on May 3, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can't defennd Young for last night but he personally
kept this thing from dying in April.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that was pathetic
but i hope and think it was just one realy crappy game by MY
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MY
has proven that he is a good player. I don’t dispute that at all.
But it just seems that the fundamental aspects of the game allude him and they seem to be recurring more frequently than they should for a player of his experience and caliber.
by T Coleman on May 3, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
baseball can be a wierd game
failure like what we saw last night happens… But you are right, this year so far MY has not done the job with a guy on 3rd and less than two outs. Neither has most of our team, its been really bad how we’ve performed in those spots so far. I do think thats gonna even out in the end though, its a long season, if not, it will be an even longer season
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler deserves some of the blame in the first inning
He could have easily gone home on the wild pitch but ended up staying at third.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Young is clutch!
Haven’t you seen his lines for the 8th and 9th innings?
by Snark on May 3, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One favor, Snark
No dissertations on PAP today.
It’s cloudy, I just ate lunch and nursing a small but managable hangover.
One of those posts would put me in a sleeper hold for the next four hours.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Atta boy!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea that was an all time frustrating inning
i was so pissed after we didnt score ther
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on May 3, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Random stream of consciousness
Taking the Mavs 7 and also on the moneyline (245).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to be fair
anytime Mike faces a righty like that he is going to K every time i think
he cant hit that slider and he cant take it
by Horns130 on May 3, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*
Mavs +7
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on May 3, 2009 1:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
good news on the pitching front
The Rangers are 8th in the league in walks allowed. One better than the lg avg. Over their last 13 games they have given up only 4.76 runs/gm.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
by RangerMad on May 3, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Michael Young is a nominee for Pepsi Clutch Performer of the Month.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know
if tonight’s game will be blacked out on DFW? Trying to decide whether to go tonight or stay in….
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on May 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Are national telecasts blacked out?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on May 3, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure about Sunday Night Baseball
but usually if one of our games is on ESPN it’s blacked out for me, and of course I can’t remember if a Sunday Night game has been blacked out before…
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on May 3, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think Sunday Night Baseball is.
Josh and Tom are off tonight.
by tyd3311 on May 3, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I checked the mlb.tv list of games for tonight
It doesn’t show a home or away feed for tonight’s game… just the national ESPN telecast.
by Inkara1 on May 3, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good.
Now I can stay home after last night’s beating.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on May 3, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im sure it will be
but usually a local affiliate picks up the local broadcast
by Horns130 on May 3, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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