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M's sign Steven Shell

Maybe it is just me, but every time I hear that name, I think of the character Kramer played on Murphy Brown, when he went out to L.A. and got a spot on the show as Murphy's new secretary.

Anyway, we've talked about Shell possibly ending up in Texas, but instead he's been signed to a minor league deal by the Seattle Mariners.

So so much for that.

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Steven Shell

is gonna become a murder suspect?

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions  

So tell me again why were people so adament about signing him

He only got a minor league deal after being released by the Nationals. Thats gotta tell you something

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions  

Yeah, his game must not be as good as his numbers have looked. He didn’t look amazing, but he looked like a legitimate major leaguer, and some teams, like us, have guys who aren’t legitimate MLBers in our pen.

by Brett Perryman on May 3, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shell v. O'Day

After what I saw last night I will take O’Day.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions  

O'Day

Yeah, it’s very early, but so far, he’s looking like a nice find.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on May 3, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shell

I was thinking about him while watching last night’s bullpen debacle.

Given how Feldman has pitched his last couple starts, and with Holland likely to join the rotation in the not to distant future, we should have signed him, given him a week or so in AAA to get a couple outings in, then cut Benson when he comes off the DL and sent Mendoza back down to AAA.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions  

What makes you think Holland joins the rotation anytime soon?

BMac, Harrison, and Feldman are all pitching well which means there isn’t a slot available for him. I think if all three of those contiinue to pitch well we will look to move Padilla at the deadline and then Holland can slide into th spot but thats a ways away

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison is not pitching well

Well, he had 4 good innings in his last start but other than that he’s been horrible. If he doesn’t build on that last start then his spot is certainly in jeopardy.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by LSBUser on May 3, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agree

But those 4 innings were really really good. IM of the belief he does build on them. And if he doesn’t I think Benson gets his spot before Holland does. I don’t think we see Holland start a game for anything other than emergency situations before the ASB and I am fine with that

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

meh

shouldnt;’ get caught up in 4 innings. there are so many pitchers who have given us 4 innings like that that went on to do nothing.

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on May 3, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Where have you gone

Ryan Glynn?

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 3, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

The talent is there

You don’t knock him out of the rotation any time soon. Even if he never does that again, you still have to give him until June at the earliest to show the Rangers what he has.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

What talent is there?

Harrison’s problem is the lack of plus pitch that he can consistently miss bats with, which causes him to have to nibble all the time, giving him a very small margin of error.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 2:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's got a

fastball in the low 90s that he can work up to 94/95, he’s got a good slider, and he’s got a good change-up. I don’t know if they are plus pitches or not, but he’s got great stuff and has it in him to repeat his last start (those 4 great innings).

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Harrison

He has 9 Ks in 22 innings. That’s isn’t going to get it done. Even in those magical 4 innings, he only struck out 2. He’s given up almost half as many HRs as he has Ks. Last year wasn’t significantly different.

He just doesn’t have the stuff necessary to be very good.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

That isn't going to get it done

That doesn’t mean that he isn’t ever going to improve.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ks

Well according to Maddux Ks don’t mean much (he didn’t say it in those words but made a point that 3 one pitch ABs was better than striking out the side). Its a nice weapon to have if you need it but I think the Rangers are more working toward a “pitch to contact and let the defense do its thing” type mantra. It allows starters to go deeper into games and lessens the workload on the bullpen.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Not really

Harrison has generally been bad, other than the last few innings of his last start. I would ride with him for another few starts, but you can’t say a guy with a 7.89 ERA and no quality starts for the season is pitching well.

Feldman has pitched fine his two starts, but he’s not a long-term solution. He’s clearly not the kind of guy that will keep Holland out of the rotation for long.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

This team can't afford to just kick Feldman out of the rotation

just because we have another top prospect who will need to be put in the rotation. So what if he isn’t part of the long-term solution right now. He’s pitching well and you keep him in the rotation until he proves he can’t.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

What?

So you have a journeyman-type pitcher who is doing okay in the rotation, and that keeps you from replacing him with a top-notch prospect who forces his way into the rotation?

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Show me when the Rangers have had a starter

that has been as good as Feldman has been so far. Journeyman type pitcher??? He’s 26 years old in his second year as a starter. If Wash trusts him a bit more in games, Feldman would look even better.

How about we also let Derek Holland force his way into the rotation before we kick out a good SP from the rotation. He’s had a few outings as a RP in the Majors and a small handful of starts in AA and AAA. That’s not forcing your way into the rotation. That’s being put into the rotation because of a lack of options. Right now, we still have some good options in the rotation.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're kidding, right?

Feldman had an ERA+ of 83 last year. That isn’t good. You can get by with it for a 5th starter, but it isn’t good. It has journeyman-type written all over it.

I’m not saying Holland has forced his way into the rotation yet. But if he does, someone like Scott Feldman shouldn’t be in the way.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was a solid starter for most of last season

Before he got tired down the stretch after having a huge workload that he’s never had to go through before. His first 2 starts of this season show no reason to kick him out anytime soon.

Why Feldman? Why the 26 year old who has done nothing to lose his spot? trade Padilla or wait for an injury.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feldman

His pre- and post-All Star break ERAs were both above 5.00 (5.03 and 5.65, respectively). I think this idea that was good until mid-August and September is a myth. His ERA was over 7.00 in July.

He is a useful pitcher. He’s not a guy we need to be counting on for 30+ starts in a season.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Feldman

As many know I am an unabashed Feldman supporter on here. Last year was his first as a starter and it is my belief that he was simply left out in games too long. The numbers fully support that also. He is not going to put up flashy or Cy Young type numbers but I fully believe he can go out and put up a 4.50-4.75 ERA in ~180 innings over a season. Given his age I think he needs to be given every chance to do that.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

if you count his games as a RP last year, his pre AS game ERA was above 5. From May 4 to July 5, Feldman made 12 starts going 72 IP with a 4.12 ERA.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 3, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Shell

Is there a back story I am missing as to why the Nationals got rid of him? Looking at his numbers from last season and his minor league career I can’t believe a terrible team like that couldn’t use him.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by LSBUser on May 3, 2009 1:29 PM CDT reply actions  

The Nats basically

canned 3 relievers after another dysfunctional outing a couple weeks ago. Kinda like what every fan calls for, but they actually did it. Knee-jerk?

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 3, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

It says we are foolish for having a gascan who put up a 8.67 ERA in 63 innings last year in our bullpen, instead of a guy who put up a 2.16 ERA in 50 innings who we could have had for free.

by Darrell McKown on May 3, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Game Day Threads

7 last night. If this team ever makes the playoffs again we’re going to have about 40 GDTs. If they advance to the ALCS, no way SBN’s servers handle it. If they get to the WS the entire internet will shut down, if not the entire power grid.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 3, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions   1 recs

And we will rejoice, in the dark, with our candles!

Oh wait…I did too much of that last night.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 3, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

if the rangers made it to the series

most of us owe it to ourselves to buy tickets and go to the game. especially those of us that have jobs and are even remotely close to being able to buy tickets. I could easily convince my wife (to be) that the look I’d give her for the rest of my life for not letting me go would not be worth the $2000 saved (and I don’t even think that is my highest price).

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on May 3, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

that post got me to thinking about what I'd do if they made the series

my brain just started freaking out.

Doctor please. Some more of these.

by tricer on May 3, 2009 2:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

That is fine. I would gladly

Give either for a WS Championship. I could make due with just one ball the rest of my life.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

You

only have two?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 3, 2009 3:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had the third one removed

Because it got in the way.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

My wife dated a guy in college

That had only one nut.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You already had one taken?

You need a new prayer.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 3, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I believe Kruk had one nut

and didnt’ that OK guy take a nut off the Longhorn fan Brian Thomas?

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on May 3, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL

We Sooner fans don’t claim that guy.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

that was good.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 3, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

LMAO

you get a rec for that.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Please

as long as it’s just the left one, I have no problem with that.

"LSB: We’re all-scaploading, all the time." -AJM

by BAC on May 3, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Agreed.

The right one does all the work anyways…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 3, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'

"Evolution happened, now get over it." Michael Shermer

by rodcarew on May 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Succinct,

I like it.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 3, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

if the 'Gers win the series

if there are cars being overturned or set on fire in DFW — that would be me.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on May 3, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and I think most of us

Would find a way to the home games. Road games on the other hand the interweb would blow up.

These umps are a bunch of bow-legged uncle fuckers.-D.A.Tron
http://tinyurl.com/ranger-rage

by boomer1 on May 3, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Candice Bergen please

Tell her it’s Kramer.

Uhh…

Okay, I’ll just call her at home

by WestTxAg06 on May 3, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

OT: Ignore Script

I fixed it so that it works for updated threads.

http://userscripts.org/scripts/show/22456

Does this deserve a fanshot or fanpost?

Ceterum censeo Cat esse delendam - Cahill the Elder

by ab03 on May 3, 2009 3:56 PM CDT reply actions  

It certainly deserves a Thank You

Well done.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by LSBUser on May 3, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

bleh

1. Ian Kinsler, 2B

2. Elvis Andrus, SS

3. Michael Young, 3B

4. Andruw Jones, LF

5. Hank Blalock, DH

6. Marlon Byrd, CF

7. Nelson Cruz, RF

8. Chris Davis, 1B

9. Taylor Teagarden, C

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 5:12 PM CDT reply actions  

haha

wow. it’s…interesting

by ab03 on May 3, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Woah.

So many things wrong with that lineup. Trying to showcase Elvis for the national audience I guess.

The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.

"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton

"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.

by sprite on May 3, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

"So many things" wrong with it?

Besides Elvis being #2? If he moves to #9 everyone moves up a notch and it looks pretty good to me. I guess with Josh out of the lineup Young is the defacto 3 hole hitter and Wash wants either speed or a good bunter in the 2 hole so if Kinsler gets on he can play small-ball

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

You didn't stutter

But you didn’t make any kind of coherant point either. You said there were “so many things wrong with this lineup” and then didn’t identify what those things were. It looked like a decent lineup to me and it worked so what more do you want

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 3, 2009 10:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Blalock

a very nice line of .231./259/.385 against lefties…

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 3, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

i guess he just doesn't think ramirez is an option

or he still thinks blalock will come aroudn against lefties.

i dunno. I don’t agree

by ab03 on May 3, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

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