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Saturday a.m. Rangers things

4 1/2 games up after the sweep yesterday and Anaheim's loss to the M's. 

Evan Grant says Scott Feldman had some mechanical issues yesterday, but managed to work through them to give the Rangers six solid innings in the nightcap.

Jeff Miller writes that Tommy Hunter didn't get the win in game 1, but did his job in terms of giving the Rangers some innings and keeping them in the game, allowing them to come back in the late innings to get the win.

The Rangers made room for Hunter by putting Matt Harrison on the disabled list, but Vicente Padilla says he feels good and will be ready to make his start on Tuesday, which allows the Rangers to just slide Padilla into Harrison's spot in the rotation, with Derek Holland remaining in the rotation for now.

Miller also has a piece up about Ian Kinsler sparking the offense by working the count and drawing walks in game 1, which allowed him to get on base despite his recent struggles with getting the ball to fall in.

Ron Washington says Andruw Jones is going to keep playing against most lefties -- he's missed only one start against a LHP this year -- but may start getting a few more ABs against righties.  With both Hank Blalock and Chris Davis having offensive issues so far this year, Jones' presence and production has been huge.

T.R. Sullivan says that with the Rangers facing five lefties in the next 7 days, Hank Blalock could find himself riding the bench quite a bit in the next week.  Blalock is hitting .163/.182/.256 against LHPs this season.

Jean-Jacques Taylor has a column up about chiding those who think the Rangers efforts to make their starters throw more innings will lead to injuries, saying that pitchers will adapt once they aren't babied, and besides, if a pitcher can't handle the workload, well, the Rangers don't need him anyway.

 

 

 

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"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
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Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 30, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions  

I've got my seatbelt buckled and some Pepto Bismol, but I'm back on the bandwagon

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 30, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eddie hasn't allowed an earned since May 2nd

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Eddie looks worlds better than he did a month ago

He’s gone from looking beyond washed up to behaving like a very serviceable LOOGY and mid-innings guy.

Gotta give Eddie credit for working it out. He couldn’t do anything right there for a while and vowed to get the ship righted. Sure enough, it appears that he has.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 30, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Oops, I was incorrect...but this is even better!
13.0 6 2 1 0 5 6 0.69

0.69 < insert crude joke here >

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on May 30, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Someone should write about this

The Rangers have the best record in the AL. When was the last time this happened? Only the Dodgers have a better record in baseball. In 2 weeks, when they play each other, the teams with the best record in each league will be giving us a World Series preview.

by Mark from OC on May 30, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

Granted these are the Rangers

but I was a little perturbed yesterday that mlb.com had absolutely nothing on the doubleheader sweep.

Jeff Zimmerman for President.

by AirJordan on May 30, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions  

Same here

ESPN has on their MLB page several headlines and none of them refer to the team with the best record in the AL. Same with Yahoo. Sportscenter did a one minute bit on BOTH games at the half way point of the show.

by bdavison94 on May 30, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

First place mother effin' Texas Rangers?

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 30, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

that's better...REC!

Rodney if I had known you were going to get a mohawk, start wearing gold chains, call everyone fool, and re-name yourself Mr. R I may not have been so generous with the work-out tips. I'd re-think all that big guy.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

FIRST PLACE MOTHER LOVIN' TEXAS RANGERS!!!

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJT, baseball Suuuuuuper Genius

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 30, 2009 10:49 AM CDT reply actions   1 recs

Where was the story about

How Chris Davis got DFA’d last night?

by SaltyGoesYard on May 30, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions  

Because he creates an out

More than 80% of the time he goes up to bat?

by SaltyGoesYard on May 30, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions  

Around 250

So, say, 75% of the time, he’s out. About 45% of the time, he goes down without putting the ball in play.

Damn. It hurts to type that.

by Keynes on May 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I'd say he's hit rock bottom

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 30, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

So where do I send the thank you card to Mr Geren for intentionally walking Kris Davis in game 2?

One of the single most braindead moves I have ever seen a human make. The guy strikes out 4 times, FOUR TIMES, in game 1 and you walk him to get to a guy who has been pretty good of late? Wow…….just Wow

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 10:53 AM CDT reply actions  

it's called playing the percentages

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

someone else quoted this

in the game thread last night, gave me a pretty good laugh

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by studcrackers on May 30, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

that was the dumbest managerial call ive seen in years

it makes Warsh look like Albert Einstein

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 30, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

lol

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on May 30, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

gotta rec this

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on May 30, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

+ 1 well done Salts!

Rodney if I had known you were going to get a mohawk, start wearing gold chains, call everyone fool, and re-name yourself Mr. R I may not have been so generous with the work-out tips. I'd re-think all that big guy.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions  

somewhat related:

I always thought barry bonds should swing once (possibly twice) when he was getting those intentional walks just to force the issue

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions  

They would've had to roll them up there.

He would’ve of hit a 100 HRs otherwise. Not an exaggeration.

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by scoop16 on May 30, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Has It Occurred to Anyone

. . . that maybe the reason managers in the last couple of decades have gotten into the habit of pulling their pitchers after 5-6 innings of work is that it’s the third or fourth time through the opposing team’s lineup, and they’re starting to pick up the pitcher’s motion better, thus resulting in hitting him more effectively? Everyone keeps talking about not overworking arms, but I think that’s an excuse added after the fact. For whatever reason — higher mound, larger strike zone, fewer teams to dilute the talent — pitchers were statistically more effective 25-30 years ago and could cycle through the entire lineup more times, going deeper into games. But in recent years, once hitters have seen a pitcher’s motion — arm angle, release point, amount of break on the ball, etc. — they have adjusted and hit him better, so managers are quicker to trot someone new out there to put the hitters off balance again. Just a thought.

by TSRThomas on May 30, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Its a very good thought

And it has alot of merit. Also the fact that relievers have become so much more specialized as opposed to the past. Players are getting bigger, stronger, faster, and with the help of technology they can see a pitcher even if they haven’t ever faced him before. In the old days until a guy had actually faced a pitcher they had no idea what he looked like. So if you only faced the guy twice in a year it didn’t give you alot to go off of. Nowadays hell even a guy who just gets called up probably has video on him and they can get some kind of read on him before they ever step into the batters box

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

JJT disagrees. It's weak muscles:

Their muscles will adapt to the increased workloads. And if they can’t, then maybe they can’t – and shouldn’t – start for these Rangers

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on May 30, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adjusting has always been part of the game.

This is more of a long term pendulum swing kind of thing that went too far. It’s now swinging back in the other direction a bit.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 30, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hell to the YES!!

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 30, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Buster Olney

Even last year, when the Rangers were not so good, Buster often had good things to say about the Rangers offense. I would hear him often on ESPN Radio saying that if the Rangers ever get their pitching and fielding together, they are going to be a contender in the AL West.

by Mark from OC on May 30, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions  

Rangers' starters are going deeper in games

I don’t think that is because of Nolan. I think people give him too much credit when our pitchers have thrown more quality innings. If our pitchers get rocked, they get pulled. Our starters, in general, have performed well this year. Our bullpen has stepped it up as well over the last month. I think alot of that has to do with O’Day coming here, Guardado and CJ have both had a stretch of quality innings.

What Nolan has said is nothing new, and letting a guy thrown 105 – 115 pitches is nothing new. It is, however, new to the Rangers, that a guy can go that deep in a game.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on May 30, 2009 11:09 AM CDT reply actions  

no

there have been plenty of times when pitchers in years past would have been pulled after giving up a couple of base runners in the 6th and (for better or for worse) they are being left in.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions  

I think that has more to do with Wash's lack of faith in his middle inning guys to start the season

And now the starters have proven themselves so its a nice problem to have

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions  

One of the primary reasons the guys are going deeper in the games..

is the conditioning philosophy that Nolan has brought to the table. Starting with Millwood the pitchers are in much better shape this year, this enables them to go deeper into games, where as before you had an out of shape Millwood laboring through a few innings you now have him going 7 with regularity, IMHO.

Rodney if I had known you were going to get a mohawk, start wearing gold chains, call everyone fool, and re-name yourself Mr. R I may not have been so generous with the work-out tips. I'd re-think all that big guy.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

The primary reason pitchers are going deeper in games is better defense.

You can pitch more innings when you only have to get 3 outs instead of 4 or 5.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 30, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

that too!

Rodney if I had known you were going to get a mohawk, start wearing gold chains, call everyone fool, and re-name yourself Mr. R I may not have been so generous with the work-out tips. I'd re-think all that big guy.

by BigGuns on May 30, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nolan may not deserve all the credit...

but he did get the ball rolling, and from what I’ve read, was instrumental in bringing Maddux in as the pithching coach. What we have seen is an example of the trickle down theory. Nolan sold Hicks and JD on it, got them to bring in Maddux, then started by getting Millwood to buy in to the concept. I don’t buy that Millwood is pitching as well as he is only to vest the last year of his contract.

The biggest suprize has been McCarthy. I long believed that Goose got his hands on him, screwed with his mechanics, and caused his injuries. That last start in Houston is what we have been looking for from him, and I was glad to see it in person, 2 rows behind the dugout. At the end of the game, BMac didn’t look gassed at all.

It is amazing what being in good shape will do for your stamina.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

And listening to XM's baseball talk channel all day...

I hear people like Buck Martinez, Kevin Kennedy, Jim Duquette, and Rob Dibble talking about how that the CG has become a lost art. But that it is slowing coming back, and alot of teams are watching how the Ranger’s new pitching philosophy has helped.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

Zack Greinke is no doubt helping as well

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 30, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dude is in a world all his own....

and I’m not talking about his mental problems….

He’s like a machine.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

If he keeps this up, Grienke 2009 is going to be spoken of in hushed tones like Pedro 99, Gibson 68, and some of Koufax’s efforts.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on May 30, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

Pedro '99 still gives me a chub

in a baseball sense, of course.

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by Maximilian on May 30, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wonder

what effect PEDs had on starters. Maybe making the able to throw harder and recover quicker but making them more brittle at the same time.

Could managers limiting of pitch counts around 100 have been a result of seeing pitchers break down when exceeding that limit too often? And the reason they were breaking down more than before was as a result of their use of PEDs?

It’s a half baked thought by me that is mostly just thinking aloud.

by bdavison94 on May 30, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

i think there's no question

that Nolan is finally having some influence, after experiencing initial resistance to his philosophy. Used to be, if guy had a 100 pitches and just finished the 6th inning, there was no question he wasn’t coming out for the 7th. call it hang over from john hart’s philosophy of shortening the game with dominant relievers or whatever. but there’s definately been a change.

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions  

reply fail

Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!

by SteveP on May 30, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Defense, defense, defense

The pitchers are doing better, but it sure helps when they only have to get 21 outs to go 7 innings instead of 24 or 25.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 30, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I really feel bad...

for CD right now. It’s nice to see him joke around about how the fans were cheering when he made contact in his last AB yesterday though. Shit like that’s makes me really want to see the guy turn it around and get through this while he’s still in the bigs.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 30, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions  

A few things...

1.I am always hard on CJ Wilson when he struggles, so I would like to say congrats to CJ for shutting the A’s down.

2.Andruw Jones needs to play more (how many people during spring training thought we would be saying that?)

Jones is having very good at-bats each time up….he has probably worked the pitchers better than any of our regulars. He is walking and raking, and should be playing over Blalock even against righties.

It sounds like we will be playing a bunch of left-handers over the next week or so….sounds like Jones will get more playing time.

by death of the cool on May 30, 2009 11:28 AM CDT reply actions  

CJ

was pretty dominant especially in the 1st game, and then to come into 2 games back to back in the same day? he was money yesterday, really proud of him and as some1 who calls the twinkle toes out a bunch, he deserves props.

well done ceej

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on May 30, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jones

What are everyones opinions about his defense? More specifically could he be an option going forward on this team in the following years as more than just a DH?

If so would people around here be open to inking him to a 2 or 3 years deal?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

Can't say anything about his work at 1B...

but what I’ve seen of him in LF he seems like he could be a adequate 4/5th OF….

I could see a 1 year deal with options for 2011/12…

Depends on the cost.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions  

Tough question

re: signing him to multi-year deal. So many options in the upper minors for DHs and OFs- Smoak, Borbon, Moreland, Boggs, Shed, Max(?)- to go along the depth at the ML level to justify signing a 30+ year old guy at and giving him one of those spots.

I read somewhere that his time in LF this year has been pretty plus, but the SSS tag gets applied to that.

by Keynes on May 30, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

Thats my thinking

I wouldn’t think about signing him if he was strictly a DH because we have too many options up and coming with Max and Smoak who are almost ready.

But if he could play LF, then I consider it because, no offense, but Boggs does very little for me. Cruz may be our biggest non pitching trade chip we have right now so if Borbon is the direction you want to go then you could deal Cruz and get back a very nice player in return. (Note: I am not advocating trading Cruz right now) As much as we like to say Boggs/Murphy would be a good platoon in LF I think Jones/Murphy may be even better.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

no long term deal

he’s going to want more than what a 4th or 5th OFer will normally get.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions  

honestly evaluate our LF situation

Id be pretty happy if AJ was our everyday LFer with Marlon leaving, and david has been really good but im still not sold on him long term, Borbon has all of 41 games at AAA and 60 games at AA so i expect some struggles adapting to the show, dunno if i wanna count on that as an every day guy.

I still see Hammy as our everyday LFer of the future, but if CD goes to AA and still cant ever hit another FB at 90 mph or above again, believe it or not, we will be looking for a DH and yes id take AJ at that position, tell him to lose 25 more pounds this coming offseason and see where we are.

winning teams have guys like him on their roster, veteran guys who wont be starters on any playoff team but, they could start for a bunch of teams like the Rockie or Pirates. Of course, that means they’d actually play for Pittsburgh and be 20 gsames out at the AS break. if people like AJ view us as a winning team, we can get’m to stick around and help give balance to the 25 man like he has done so well this season.

that said, if we fall out of it, id be open to a Max + AJ + Pads for High Rated prospect of need

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by Jayslick on May 30, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I've never understood

the falling in love with a good one year pickup. You have these people saying hell to the no on picking up a players (Bradley, AJ, whoever), and then come midseason they want to commit longterm to them. I dont get it.

AJ is a great pickup for this year, but thats all that it is.

"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 30, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones

The reason I bring up locking him up for a few more years is he is still relatively young. Hes not a 34 or 35 year old whos at the end of his career. Sure hes been in the bigs a long time but hes only 32. And this isn’t a Byrd, Bradley, GMJ, Derosa type guy who has either not had a good career prior or has been extremely injury prone prior. AJ was one of, if not the, best OFs in the game not too long ago. Hes obviously not at that level anymore but if he is passable in LF I would take him over Boggs anyday. Alot of talk has been about a Boggs/Murphy platoon in left moving forward but if a Jones/Murphy platoon is better why not?

I think his asking price will be the reason we don’t resign him more than his ability. But with our payroll situation the next couple years I think we may be willing to ante up a little bit.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones is gonna get a starter gig somewhere

and its not gonna be supercheap, Boras will see to it.

"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 30, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK

So like I said his price, rather than his ability, will be why hes not here.

If he would sign a 2/12million deal with an option for a 3rd year do you say no?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep.

I just think with Smoak coming up, and AJs range being pretty impaired for OF, I just don’t see the fit here.

"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on May 30, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

OK

I agree if all he is, is a DH then you pass. But if he can play LF then I think you do it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

I might if...

he ccould improve at 1B also.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Huh?

With Davis and Smoak presumably here for next year I doubt Jones would see any time at 1B

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

More versatility

I doubt Chris and Justin will both be here (trade), and it would be nice to see a DH that can also play more than 1 position.

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who do you see being traded?

I doubt it would be Davis right now and with his struggles I don’t think you can trade Smoak.

Im all about versatility but I don’t see 1B being a position a guy needs to be versatile in

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think we'll see Smoak in Arlington this year, either.

If Chris has turned it around by October, I think he is part of a package for a 1/2 SP, and Smoak starts in Apr 2010

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

2010: 3M + 3M in incentives and vesting benchmarks
2011: 5M + 2.5M incentives and benchmarks for vesting 2012 OR 2M buyout
2012: (mutual option) 6M or 1.5M buyout

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

Correction on 2011...

no buyout option

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jones

I was nowhere near positive that he was going to have a good offensive season but the one thing I had faith in was that he was still really young and there was no real reason that he would just physically stop hitting. Sosa was a lot older but 32 years really isn’t all that bad

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

He loves Texas, Rudy, and his teammates,

and is very happy & humble to get another chance here.

He was stunningly humble and appreciative on the pregame show yesterday.

I am 100% on board with him now, even moreso than I was before.

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by Rodney on May 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

yeah

that has been a great side bonus. the guy apparently doesn’t care at all that he’s a 4th or 5th OFer.

I wonder if that was part of it for him: he just didn’t like to be the center of attention. Seems interesting that he fails at his big contract year and then fails after his first year with the big contract but then seems to be doing pretty well (his numbers will obviously come down a little) when relatively little focus is on him. the getting fat part would kind of be in line with this (although most people don’t need a reason to get fat).

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions  

Same

I felt like if he would commit to getting back into shape he could turn it around. I just couldn’t fathom how the guy could completely forget how to hit.

by bdavison94 on May 30, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions  

buster olney on the rangers front page of the espn mlb section
Rangers have what it takes to win AL West

Saturday, May 30, 2009 | Feedback | Print Entry

A rainbow appeared over Camden Yards on the day Matt Wieters arrived, a black cloud hangs over the Colorado Rockies at a time when they’ve changed managers, and the Chicago Cubs managed to finish a game without destroying a drink dispenser (that we know of). All of these flickering lures drew our attention Friday away from a team that stretched its win-loss record to 10 games over .500, that is off to its best start in more than a decade — the Texas Rangers, who swept a doubleheader from the Athletics, as the Angels lost to Seattle and fell to 4½ games behind Texas.

If you talk to players and executives within the division, there is deep and appropriate respect for the Angels and what they’ve accomplished in this decade, and a presumption that eventually, any team managed by Mike Scioscia and led by the likes of John Lackey and Chone Figgins and Torii Hunter is destined to get on a serious roll and start crushing teams.

But just for argument’s sake: Is it possible that isn’t going to happen? Is it possible that the Rangers are a good team that’s getting better, maturing right in front of us? They’re 23-10 since April 24, and they’ve posted a staff ERA of 3.70 in the month of May, the fourth best in the majors.

Here are a half-dozen reasons why we should believe that the Rangers are for real, and that the Angels might really be in trouble:

   1. The Rangers are a good team that’s getting better. They really haven’t hit their stride offensively, with Chris Davis off to a poor start and with Josh Hamilton having been on the disabled list for much of the first two months of the season. The Rangers have been respectable on offense, ranking ninth in runs scored, but they probably haven’t hit their full stride yet.

   2. They might have the best reliever in baseball right now. Spring is about to become summer and Texas closer Frank Francisco still hasn’t allowed a run. The Rangers have done a good job of protecting Francisco and the other Texas relievers, and in Francisco’s 17.2 innings, he’s allowed just 10 hits and walked five.

   3. Vladimir Guerrero’s slow start. David Ortiz’s slump has been the most notorious in major league baseball this year, but Guerrero — the anchor of the Angels’ lineup for so long — is also raising eyebrows in the scouts’ section with his poor start. Activated earlier this week from the DL, having completed his rehab for a torn pectoral muscle, Guerrero is now hitting .208 with one homer in 48 at-bats this season; the single home run is his only extra-base hit.

   4. The Rangers have the depth to fill holes. Texas will have the option of promoting some of its young players from a deep farm system, or perhaps using some of those pieces to make a trade for a starting pitcher. If a bidding war develops for an elite starting pitcher late this summer and the Rangers choose to flex the full muscle of their farm system in a push to win the American League West, they could outbid others for the likes of Erik Bedard.

   5. Ervin Santana’s stuff. Talent evaluators who saw him in his most recent start report that Santana is throwing well enough to win, with his fastball in the range of 91-92 mph, but that his stuff is still a long way away from the overpowering repertoire he had in 2008, when he was one of baseball’s best pitchers.

   6. The expected player exodus out of Seattle and Oakland. The Mariners and Athletics will consider trading some veterans before the deadline, in order to bolster their organizations for 2010 and beyond. This means that while the Rangers run through a second-half schedule that includes 21 games against Seattle and Oakland, they might not have to cope with the likes of Bedard, Matt Holliday, Brad Ziegler, Justin Duchscherer, Adrian Beltre, Jarrod Washburn and Russell Branyan.

Tom Hicks, coping with some financial issues, has indicated he is willing to sell the Rangers, and with the economy still down, his timing could be better. But prospective buyers will be looking at a team on the rise. During Friday’s sweep, Andruw Jones excelled in a supporting role, writes Jeff Wilson. Matt Harrison landed on the disabled list with some shoulder inflammation. The Rangers are banking on prospects like Derek Holland, writes Tim Cowlishaw.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXWLfIgc0nA

by mchang4 on May 30, 2009 11:36 AM CDT reply actions  

Research Fail!

Linky

Most Games over .500 10 last on May 31 (2005)

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by Rodney on May 30, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions  

What was the record though

I don’t read it as 10 games over is their best start but their winning percentage is. I could be wrong though

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions  

x
stretched its win-loss record to 10 games over .500, that is off to its best start in more than a decade

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on May 30, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know what was written

But with the comma where it is I read it as “a team that stretched its w/l record to 10 games over .500. A team that is off to its best start in more than a decade”

In 2005 on May 31st we were 30-20 which is a .600 winning percentage. Today we are 29-19 which is a .604 winning percentage which is how I read it to mean.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on May 30, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

i read it that way sort of

to judge the best start, you would want to look at records the team had after 48 games. In 2005, they were only 28-20 after 48 games.

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

More important, though

when is the last time the team had a 4 1/2 game lead on the division on May 30?

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by t ball on May 30, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

x
They really haven’t hit their stride offensively, with Chris Davis off to a poor start and with Josh Hamilton having been on the disabled list for much of the first two months of the season.

Did anybody else notice that when Josh dove for the ball, 2nd game, that he seemed to still be favoring his left side?

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by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

he is definitely not healthy

he came up kind of lame on his slide when he doubled and he was limping as he went to third

"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)

by ab03 on May 30, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

When I think of the Angels, I worry because Torii Hunter and Chone Figgins are destined to lead the team on a serious roll.

If those are the 2nd and 3rd guys on your list, then maybe the team in question isn’t as good as people think.

by Adam J. Morris on May 30, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

This thought came to me yesterday.

Could Omar be used as a temporary replacement, or a platoon with Blalock, at 1B, while CD goes to OKC/Frisco?

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on May 30, 2009 12:02 PM CDT reply actions  

Highly unlikely

I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.

by Chaim Witz on May 30, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yay IKE!
Kinsler walked to open the bottom of the first in each game. Scored each time. When he has walked in his first plate appearance this season, the Rangers are 4-1. When he had reached base by any means in his first time up, the Rangers are 14-4.

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by Rodney on May 30, 2009 12:39 PM CDT reply actions  

Kins needs to get on base more often

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on May 30, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Davis

I truly think that when they decide to send him down, they should send him to single A. I think that he may be able to get out of the funk faster that way.

by texasraider on May 30, 2009 2:11 PM CDT reply actions  

Why stop there?

Surprise, AZ or bust!

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by Maximilian on May 30, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

IF.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DShep on May 30, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

BMac FTW:
He has pitched at least seven innings and thrown at least 105 pitches in his last three starts and is 1-1 with a 2.74 ERA.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 30, 2009 2:53 PM CDT reply actions  

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