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Happy birthday, Ben Grieve

Happy birthday to Ben Grieve, who turns 33 today.

Grieve is a classic example of why folks say players with "old player" skills -- slow, power, high walk, high strikeout -- don't age well.  Grieve was the 2nd overall pick in the 1994 draft out of high school (sandwiched between Paul Wilson and Dustin Hermanson), and after an impressive cup of coffee in 1997, was the American League Rookie of the Year in 1998. 

He was traded by the A's to Tampa Bay in a deal involving Cory Lidle and Johnny Damon after the 2000 season, a move that I thought at the time was questionable, because Grieve was cheap and had posted 3 straight seasons with OPSs in the 840s.  But Grieve never hit that well again, and was out of the league by age 30.

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Happy Birthday Ben

Crazy to think this is his 33rd birthday and he’s out of baseball already.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 4, 2009 2:58 PM CDT reply actions  

Martin High School

Represent

I had a paper route when I was a kid. I was supposed to go to 2,000 houses. Or two dumpsters.

by TheBZA on May 4, 2009 3:13 PM CDT reply actions  

did Grieve go to Martin?

I was a sophomore there when Van Poppel was a senior. But I had left Texas by the time Grieve would have been in school there, though… I wonder which JH he attended…

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on May 4, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Did you play ball there?

I remember facing Van Poppel, Tim Grieve, and Sundberg’s kid.

’Scuse me for name dropping.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 4, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Ben went to Martin

His senior year would be 93/94, he was a year behind me. Van Poppel’s senior year was 89/90, when I was splitting time between Boles JH and Martin.

by bhudson on May 4, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

I was at Boles the first year it opened

87/88 for ninth grade. Van Poppel must have been a junior during my sophomore year, then… I left Arlington in Oct of ‘88 so I didn’t get a chance to play ball at Martin.

Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com

by WhipSmart on May 4, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me too,

I was there when it opened, 7th grade, the first class to go all the way through.

by bhudson on May 4, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

MacArthur

Baseball:

Kerry Wood 9th-11th

Football:

Akin Ayodele, and of course, Brian Bosworth

by sam in so cal on May 4, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Paso Robles High School

I graduated a year behind Jason Botts. He wasn’t voted “most athletic” in his senior class.

by Inkara1 on May 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I had health class 10th grade with Aqib Talib

dude skipped all the time and came most of the time high as hell.

Now he’s in the NFL making millions while I’m in private school debt. FML.

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 4, 2009 4:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

I remember telling my parents growing up that I'd be a great basketball player.

When I stopped growing at 6’1, and all the dudes around me were 6’5 and taller, I gave up on that dream.

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

sad

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Amazing.

Look at that deal from 2001.

KC gets Angel Berroa, A.J. Hinch, and Roberto Hernandez for Johnny Damon and Mark Ellis.

Oakland gets Cory Lidle, Johnny Damon and Mark Ellis for Angel Berroa, A.J. Hinch and Ben Grieve.

Tampa Bay gets Ben Grieve for Cory Lidle and Roberto Hernandez.

Stupid sexy Billy Beane.

Seeking a new signature...

by ghtd36 on May 4, 2009 3:36 PM CDT reply actions  

KC

what did you guys do…

by ab03 on May 4, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

that deal wasn't that great for oakland

damon was gone at the end of the year. mark ellis has been okay i guess

Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.

by gossamer on May 4, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

oops

i glazed over lidle. he did have 2 productive seasons with oakland i guess. then was traded for scraps

Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.

by gossamer on May 4, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

so that part was lucky

Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.

by gossamer on May 4, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

In a heartbeat,

but then again, I don’t think the guy’s a douche.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 4, 2009 4:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thinking a guy's a douche

doesn’t mean you can’t respect his talent on the field.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 4, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think

everyone knows he’s a patient TTO hero type of player. Still doesn’t make him not a douche bag.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 4, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Angel Berroa

Man, him and Bobby Crosby. What a couple of superstar players in the making.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 4, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ah yes....

I used to play volleyball with his sister, Katie.

Don’t remember much about his MLB career.

Ian Kinsler..... yea, he's good at baseball.

by b.pate on May 4, 2009 4:01 PM CDT reply actions  

This is TAG's son right?

The other sports are just sports. Baseball is a love. ~Bryant Gumbel, 1981

by TxStCa on May 4, 2009 4:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Tom's kid has had a better MLB career than

Wade’s kid ever will.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 4, 2009 4:55 PM CDT reply actions  

why you gotta use the f word?

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

because it's the internet

where free speech still remains intact?

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 4, 2009 7:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

i was being a bit facetious

i use it all the time, although mostly when i’m pissed at MY for not coming through in the clutch.

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck that guy

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 4, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

There it is

I don’t think it’ll ever get old.

by WestTxAg06 on May 4, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

wait till we draft A.J. Morris

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

fuck brett gardner

why? Fuck him, that’s why.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 4, 2009 9:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

as was I?

Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst

by Maximilian on May 4, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's understandable.

West coast night games DO !?!&!??!! rock.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 4, 2009 7:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

Exactly

I can’t remember the last one I watched dry. Even staying at home, just feels right.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 4, 2009 7:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yes

I remember sacrificing sleep so I could catch those games.

My bedtime was 9 PM … so it was a sacrifice.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

by inactive lsb user on May 4, 2009 8:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

I like the games that start at 9 p.m.

by Adam J. Morris on May 4, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Will DirectTV have the game tonight in Houston?

by octoberty on May 4, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

677

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

word

same here, now i’m hoppy cited.

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

parents go to sleep early, eh?

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh

That’s when I would switch to Skinemax. Volume low, listening for the door to open.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 4, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Holy sheet...you just perfectly described

every Friday and Saturday night at my house between 1990 to 1994

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on May 4, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

No cable when in my farmtown

I watched Benny Hill.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 4, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

okay

when did JJ Redick start getting significant minutes??

"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller

by Longhorn on May 4, 2009 7:33 PM CDT reply actions  

Thanks Dwight Howard!

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on May 4, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

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