Wild Card Standings
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2009 3:19 PM CDT
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Debbie Downer
Ok, it’s a little early to think like that, and two bad games could drop them from 2nd to 7th on that list. I’m encouraged by the team’s last several games, but let’s not get carried away.
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by t ball on May 6, 2009 3:22 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
i'm getting carried away on the shoulders
of our great bullpen
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
As much as I hate to admit it
I have to agree. Our bullpen still sucks and we can’t take any walks. Just as we’re a couple of decent mid-releivers and some plate discipline away from looking good, we’re also a 4-5 game losing streak away from looking like cannon fodder again.
"That start was like somebody on a deathbed suddenly jumping up and doing the Lindy Hop, then speeding away on a pogo stick while playing the fiddle." - Telegraph
by LSJ on May 6, 2009 8:52 PM CDT up reply actions
We're playing Oakland
and our other two div rivals are playing the against the top two AL records over the next few days. Time to make some hay.
Who cares?
The Rangers will be leading the division at the All Star break, so they don’t need no stinking wild card berth.
So,
Seattle is only 2 back. Good for them.
An AL West bunk brother might be able to join us in the postseason.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
memo to arlington
plan the victory parade and run it in paper (if one still exists)
this is ridiculously asinine
It is ridiculously asinine...
…for me to show what the wild card standings are right now?
I think it is more asinine to bitch about the post.
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
both are equally asinine
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Yeah
I just thought it was interesting, and figured I’d post it on a day that I had little else to put up.
by Adam J. Morris on May 6, 2009 4:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't walk into a beehive
and then complain when you get stung!!
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
by inactive lsb user on May 6, 2009 7:53 PM CDT up reply actions
You're a character
Still running bits at that age?
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by inactive lsb user on May 6, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions
Are you kidding?
After the last 2 Aprils, why not be happy that the Rangers aren’t out of it?
4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
by DJCahill on May 6, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Plus Juan
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by inactive lsb user on May 6, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions
+2 or is it +3
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
lets not ever look at standings until September
I’m serious – it will be an interesting surprise (maybe) to find out we are actually 23 games out of 1st. But at least we might hold out hope longer for a playoff spot
I'M KENNY POWERS!!!
I think that’s going to be my new reaction to people who complain about nothing but the sake of doing it.
Let's change the Constitution so that Elvis Andrus can be our supreme overlord.
i think the Central division should be posted
now that’s an upside down division.
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
Thats great and all
but Min. is a 2nd half team and there’s 5 other teams that are better than us and capable of making a huge push
i'm a rangers fan
but to defend minnesota. they were without Mauer for the first month of the season. He promptly comes back and goes 7 for 10 in his first 3 games. Minnesota hurts a little more when one of their huge offensive pieces goes out.
we are lucky right now that we have Kinsler, Young, Cruz, and even Jones etc who are able to pick up the slack while Hamilton is on the mend.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
also
Liriano struggled in his first 3 starts, and I think you can count on him putting up cy young worthy numbers once he gets settled down.
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
I'm not disagreeing with you
but I think it’s silly to say any team is a “2nd Half” team instead of saying “I think they’ll play better in the 2nd half because of these factors”.
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by t ball on May 6, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So you're saying
that Mark Teixeira isn’t a 2nd half player?
How irrational.
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by inactive lsb user on May 6, 2009 7:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Wow, a lot of over-serious people here today...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
And, if we win tonight
and Seattle loses, we’ll be in 1st place. WOOT!
If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry
Yeah, you usually don't see Wild Card Standings posted until
August 1 but if seeing it makes people better…actually it’s a pretty silly thing to do.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
What the hell is it going to take for Eric Wedge to get fired?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
The only team hotter than
Texas is team Manny.
The 2008-2009 Dallas Mavericks are the biggest teases in the world.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
If Wash doesn't screw up last week in the Chicago game and
pull Feldman for Holland, we’re riding the wave of a 5 game winning streak and sitting at 15-11.
Hopefully the goal tonight is to make decisions that help the team win the game instead of searching for spots where they can shoehorn in Holland and spoonfeed him innings.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Theres no knowing if Feldman would have gotten out of that jam
The decision was wrong I agree but we have no way of knowing how things would have turned out had he not made it
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
We don't know what Feldman would have done
but we do know he had only thrown 70 something pitches, had no innings with high pitch counts, had been dominant all evening save a couple of bloops in the 6th and had induced a weak grounder from Thome and a K.
There was absolutely no rational reason to pull Feldman at that time and it was a horrible decision.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Can't argue with that at all
But Thome is a great great player who could just as easily gotten a double off Feldman as he did off Holland. To say we would have gotten out scott free with no runs scored if we left Feldman out there is crazy talk
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
bigsteve
Feldman earned the chance to face Thome and to take him out for reasons not related to his own performance was dumb. That may have been the most dominant pitching performance I’ve ever seen out of Feldman.
I assume Frank can’t go tonight so maybe Holland becomes the bridge pitcher who takes over in the 7th (or quicker if Feldman gets rocked) and does that mean CJ gets a shot at closing?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Again
I am not arguing that Feldman should have been pulled. I am merely stating that you, or anyone else, cannot simply say that had Feldman been left out there things would have turned out any differently. How hard is that to understand?
As for Frankie, yeah I bet hes unavailable tonight. I would assume if in a close game CJ would be the one called on to close but who knows. I hope Wash isn’t feeling forced to use Holland since its been 4 days since he last pitched and pulls Feldman early again just to get Holland innings. Unless we are going to go to a split starter system we need to just use Holland like a normal reliever until we put him in the rotation.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Feldman
I like the guy, but he always been terribly ineffective against lefties. I don’t think you can quibble with Wash’s decision. Sometimes things just don’t work out.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
Feldman can be very inconsistent from outing to outing
but that particular evening he was very good and I can understand why he was peeved about getting the hook. It just didn’t make sense.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Feldman
For his career his OPS against for lefties is about 130 points higher than against righties. I’m not saying it was necessarily the right decision on that day, but it’s asinine and disingenuous to argue that there’s no “no rational reason” for making that change. Washington was playing the percentages. Sometimes it just doesn’t pan out.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
In addition
Just looked it up: Thome’s career OPS is about 300 points higher against righties than against lefties.
Further evidence.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
No, no... Feldman has a TERRIFIC record getting out of jams in the 5th-7th..
NOT…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
That probably had something to do with the thinking to pull him
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Did you see the game bking?
The White Sox, in particular Thome, couldn’t touch him that night. His cutter was sawing bats off all over the place.
Yeah, he’s wandered into trouble in those innings in the past but I’m not sure I’ve ever seen him that dominant.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Saw every pitch, sans a couple of bladder breaks..
I would have left him in, FWIW, but it’s not like there isn’t a shred of supporting data for pulling him.
He’s the 5th starter, he found himself in a big hole, and that usually adds up to a bullpen call.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
70 pitches seems about right
Since he had been in the bullpen before that. I don’t think there is any reason to expect him to go from pitching an inning or 2 at a time for a month and then go out and throw 100 pitches.
Well
He was a starter all spring and gearing up to be one during the season so while I agree he shouldn’t be expected to go 100 pitches right away I thought originally it would take him two starts to get fully back to starter strength. Tonight he shouldn’t have any limitations.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
to be clear
Wash said that Feldman’s pitch count last time was 100 and that he pulled him to “preserve his good start.”
so…
So...
I know what Wash said and by the looks of things Feldman could have easily gone 100 pitches. Hopefully tonight if Feldman is cruising he will be allowed to try and work through a jam or two. Doing so could mean the difference between him merely being a 5th starter or possibly having middle of the rotation potential
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
well I guess I was implying that
pitch count has nothing to do with Feldman getting pulled early. If I had to guess, I would say that Holland and Feldman are a tandem starter and that if Feldman gives him any excuse whatsoever, Wash is going to pull him – even if the hook seems premature.
I was just get ready for that.
I hope Feldman and Holland aren't tandem starting
Cause that means we are essentially working with a 6 man bullpen. I don’t want to see CJ and Frankie and Oday overworked just so we can get Derek Holland a handful of innings. If thats the case send him back to OKC and have him go 7 or 8 innings every 5 days.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
well if it is a true tandem
hopefully you only need those two guys today. It hasn’t worked out like that yet but it might.
and for holland, there is a big difference between seeing major league pitching and seeing OKC pitching.
Holland
But if hes only being used every 5 days the amount of good he is doing for himself and for the team is not as much as this team is being hampered by only having 6 guys for relief work.
Im fine with him facing ML hitting every couple days as a normal reliever whether that means for one inning or 4. But id also be fine with him dominating AAA hitting if he stays in a good rhythm and builds his stamina
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
But the A's...
… have a lesser offence than our own OKC RedHawks, right?
Anybody heard news on evan?
Apparently he went to get his free meal from KFC that Oprah is giving out and got in some sort of fracas because they ran out of chicken.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
LOL
Give me more.
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by inactive lsb user on May 6, 2009 7:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Damn AL East
they’ve had a team win the wildcard in 10 of the 14 years it’s been in existence.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on May 6, 2009 4:40 PM CDT reply actions
i don't get the hub bub
Adam posts the division standings fairly regularly. What is the difference between that and the wild card standings?
Wild card standings
are really kind of irrelevant until August. Heck, my brain doesn’t really acknowledge that there is even a wild card until then. There is no reason to get annoyed, but it is kind of silly.
Maybe part of it is that every day we look at the other games thinking “I hope Seattle, Oakland, and LA all lose.” Well, if you’re worried about the wild card right now, you kind of have to say “I also hope Boston, New York, Tampa, Baltimore, Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City, and Minnesota all lose also”
rationally, there is no difference
and i’m guessing the only reason your brain computes it like that is because newspapers decided not to show wild card standings until august. But really, there was no reason for them to choose to do it like that either. If you’re going to show regular standings, might as well show wild card standings.
what is a newspaper?
kidding, kidding…
I agree that rationally there is no difference. I don’t really care if anyone shows them or talks about them, and it is of course better to be near the top than the bottom. But there is a finite amount of space, both in newspapers and in our minds. It’s easy to keep track of divisional standings, whereas wild card standing are going to be more chaotic and messier (which may be a good argument for showing them). Why do you think NFL wild card scenarios aren’t discussed much until Week 13 or 14? Too many teams, too many possibilities.
Also, the wild card is just far more improbable for being relevant. 4 or 5 teams are competing for each division spot, 14 for the wild card spot. It just isn’t a high likelihood possibility. I’d probably wager that while the last two games probably had a 1% effect on our playoff probability regarding winning the division, they probably had a 0.2% effect boost on our wild card probabilities, if that.
I'd say July 1 would be a good time to start posting them
Then you can start seeing a month before the deadline who might have a shot at it and who might be selling.
Truthfully, though, you don’t really “need” wild-card standings and paper and ink cost money. I’d only stick the wild-card standings in if I’ve got some space to fill to finish out the page.
the man is certifiable
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
One of these days
He’s going to like flip out and go postal. He just seems like the kind of guy who is not just going to quietly file bankruptcy, he’ll just come up with some scheme and dig himself deeper and deeper.
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CoolStandings has the Rangers playoff odds at 50% at this point.
Please don’t argue or point out the flaws in their methodology. Let me have this moment.
At least that's better than
when the Rangers had like a 7% chance and the A’s had a 20-something percent chance when the Rangers had a better record. that shit was annoying. Not saying that the Rangers are World Series-caliber, but to say they’re that much worse than the rest of the West is bullshit.
orel basically just said
that the pitching staff in Texas sucked when he was there and that Alex did call games because Pudge and Larid couldn’t…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
Actually, Laird was there (2003)
Short stint early in the season (April 30 – May 13) and then several appearance in September (call-up?), according to BR. Certainly not the regular catcher (Einar Diaz) or even the backup (Todd Greene).
Here's what his Wikipedia page says about his 2003 season
(matches the stats at BR)
Laird joined Texas for 2003 spring training, but after a brief appearance was sent to the Triple-A Oklahoma RedHawks. Texas recalled Laird on April 30 when catcher Todd Greene went on the disabled list; Laird made his major league debut the same day. Greene returned from the disabled list after fifteen days and Texas promptly optioned Laird back to Oklahoma. Texas recalled Laird a second time in September when the rosters expanded, and he remained with the big league club the rest of the season. In his two stints with Texas Laird played in nineteen games and hit .273.
chan park doing damage
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
Love the undertones in Orel's voice
when mentioning CHoP.
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by inactive lsb user on May 6, 2009 7:58 PM CDT up reply actions
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