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A Justin Smoak comparison

Like Mark Teixeira, Justin Smoak was a highly-touted, switch-hitting first baseman who signed late after being drafted.

I though it would be interesting to take a look at their respective performance in their first month+ of games in their first full season of pro ball:

Mark Teixeira -- .320/.411/.593, 21 walks and 24 Ks in 175 PAs

Justin Smoak -- .358/.470/.547, 20 walks and 13 Ks in 116 PAs

Not bad.  Teixeira was exhibiting more power, but Smoak has a higher walk rate and a higher contact rate.  Although Teixeira was more highly regarded than Smoak was, coming out of college, their early performances in their first full seasons are pretty comparable.

Oh, except for one other thing...

Those numbers by Teixeira?  They were in A-ball...he spent his first 38 games in the Florida State League, before moving up to the Texas League.

Smoak is doing this in AA, a level higher than where Teixeira started out and put up those numbers.

Not bad at all.

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And, he doesn’t suck ass for the first month of the season, year, after year, after…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 8, 2009 11:56 AM CDT reply actions  

.198/.339/.396 heading into today.

Slow start even by his standards.

Through May 7:

2008: .254/.343/.421
2007: .265/.366/.442
2006: .264/.356/.450
2005: .269/.326/.508
2004: .235/.371/.510
2003: .208/.293/.361

by Snark on May 8, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ouch!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 8, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good

It still won’t put an end to the very small minority here that think he has a chance to go to HOF, but its a start.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on May 8, 2009 3:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Teix in AA

200 PA .316/.415/.591

Like Adam said, Smoak doesn’t have Teix’s raw power but he may end up being a better all around hitter.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 8, 2009 12:13 PM CDT reply actions  

and hopefully more consistent in the beginning of the season

Tex slumps alot early in the season. It’s a big downfall. I wonder how long Yankee fans will cheer for him, or are they already booing.

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 8, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Smoak

FWIW, whoever wrote the Rangers’ chapter in this year’s Baseball Prospectus annual compared Smoak to Justin Morneau- basically, that Morneau is what he could develop into. I’d take that.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on May 8, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Adam missed something

The Teixeira and Smoak comparisons don’t include one of the very most important factors in projections, their ages.

Teixeira put up his numbers in that comparison one year younger than what Smoak is. While one year isn’t enormous it is significant. Smoak still projects to be a stud, but that one year definitely is a significant factor and was left out.

by gr7070 on May 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

?
Teixeira put up his numbers in that comparison one year younger than what Smoak is.

Teixeira was born in 4/80, and put up those numbers in 2002 — age 22 and 0 months at the start of the season.

Smoak was born in 12/86, and is putting up those numbers in 2009 — age 22 and 4 months at the start of the season.

by Adam J. Morris on May 8, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Season Age

Fair enough.

Their season ages were age 21 and age 22, fwiw.

by gr7070 on May 8, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't wait to see Smoak in a Ranger's uniform

Maybe he can teach the other guys to work the count.

by hiafex on May 8, 2009 12:16 PM CDT reply actions  

How is AG relative

to the topic at hand?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 8, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

get over it

how long ago was the AG trade. it’s been beaten to death a number of times already

If a woman has to choose between catching a fly ball and saving an infant's life, she will choose to save the infant's life without even considering if there are men on base. ~Dave Barry

by NothinG on May 8, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

sock puppet?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 8, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

can you believe we traded Sammy Sosa?

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on May 8, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

And they really should have given

Guillermo Mercedes more time to develop.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 8, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

That Ron Darling trade hasn't been discussed enough either...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on May 8, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

At least

it wasn’t to finance a Broadway play. Plus, we got the great Fred Manrique.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on May 8, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

This is what I want to know

Is Smoak and A**hole like Teix?

First place Texas Rangers!

by chadero on May 8, 2009 12:26 PM CDT reply actions  

I thought Smoak...

would move through the system quickly, like most here. I didn’t think it would be as quick as it appears it will be now though. If he continues doing what he’s doing now he will be up by Sept., or maybe even sooner. 400-500 PA’s in the minors and he’s up. Pretty good.

If the Rangers can find a taker for Hank at the deadline I could see Smoak being called up to split time with Davis at 1B/DH.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on May 8, 2009 12:27 PM CDT reply actions  

Also

Wasn’t Teix’s first season being played at 3rd as well? I can’t remember when exactly he switched over to 1st, but I was sure it wasn’t until he was at Tulsa.

Doesn’t really matter one way or the other.

Rivalries aside, RIP Nick Adenhart 04/09/2009.

"if daniels was fired today, he would almost be sure to get another shot somewhere else as a GM

i dont know if you can say the same thing abotu RW" - knockoutking

by hillcrest on May 8, 2009 12:36 PM CDT reply actions  

hopefully

smoak is still in AA when i see them play on the 28 and 29th this month

Omar Vizquel: your starting shortstop for the 2009 AL all-star team.

by gossamer on May 8, 2009 12:59 PM CDT reply actions  

RR Express

I have a family mini pack for the Round Rock Express. One of our games is tomorrow and Feliz happens to be scheduled to start.

Looking forward to it…

by gr7070 on May 8, 2009 4:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry to bust your bubble

but Feliz is dealing with some minor shoulder pain. I believe Mendoza is starting tomorrow.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year

by RangerMad on May 8, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pop

goes the bubble, cuz the bubble goes pop.

by gr7070 on May 8, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn, that sucks for you.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on May 8, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

eesh. that's a let down.

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on May 8, 2009 5:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am starting to come around

on this guy.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on May 8, 2009 1:21 PM CDT reply actions  

i mean

we were stupid for not taking a pitcher there, but we got lucky he’s worked out as well as he has.

I can see how it would be tempting to get a sock puppet and go to town, because feigning ignorance is pretty fun.

What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.

by clark on May 8, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Really? We were stupid for not taking a pitcher?

We took the best player available. We were lucky for him to be there, but I wouldn’t call it luck that it’s worked out so well.

by octoberty on May 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

StealHome

is that you? How did you hack clark’s account?

by laxtonto on May 8, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

And Smoak seems to know how to take a walk

the last pre-season game in Arlington was the first i got to see him in person. I think he had at least 2 walks in that game, very patient.

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on May 8, 2009 1:28 PM CDT reply actions  

Rudy

will be able to fix that.

4/10/09 - Josh Hamilton's last walk.
"You know a pitching prospect isn't any good if John Daniels doesn't trade him away but keeps him insteaad." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/
"You probably can throw Neftali Feliz on that group of overblown Rangers pitching prospect failures." - http://crops.mlblogs.com/

by DJCahill on May 8, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

I saw mtex's post

and was about to type this, word for word exactly…

by bhudson on May 8, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha.. great.

can Mark Connor somehow be involved as well?

(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."

by mtex on May 8, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

That was funny

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on May 9, 2009 12:19 AM CDT up reply actions  

.....and

Smoak’s agent isnt Scott Boras!! I’m starting to love this kid more and more

my sig is better than yours

by MayurP on May 8, 2009 4:16 PM CDT reply actions  

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