Monday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2009 10:12 AM CDT
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I can't really complain about taking 3 of 4 from the A's. Last night's game was winnable, but then, there have been some losable games out there Texas has won of late, so...
Frankie Francisco picked up the loss, giving up his first run since last August. I probably would have preferred to see Derek Holland pitch the 9th, with a couple of lefties coming up, and then used Frankie in the 10th, but that has to do in large part with my lack of faith in the Rangers scoring in the 9th, and thus the desire to maximize the amount of innings you get from the bullpen pieces available, and not just because of the matchups Holland would get.
Evan Grant says that Frankie Francisco reacted no differently after yesterday's game than he has in any of the games he's closed successfully, an indication that he has the mindset and short memory necessary in a successful closer.
Josh Hamilton is getting an MRI today and seeing a hernia specialist tomorrow, as the team tries to figure out what is causing him pain. Hamilton says he hopes to stay off the d.l. -- if a trip to the d.l. were to be in the offing, I suspect Brandon Boggs would get the call to replace him.
Richard Durrett has an item up about Michael Young's improvement defensively at third base.
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It hurt a bit to see Frankie give up that homer yesterday
but glad to see we’re still several games in first.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 1, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It had to happen eventually
I am glad to hear that he reacted normally to a negative situation, considering he has not been in a negative situation in a game since the middle of last season. He could be the closer on this team for an extended period of time.
by Mark from OC on Jun 1, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was CJ available yesterday?
I thought he had warmed up during the game. I don’ thave a problem with Wash going with Frankie. I also wouldn’t have had a problem if he had left Holland in for the 9th.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 1, 2009 10:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He and O'Day both warmed up.
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by RachelB on Jun 1, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any thoughts on Vizquel to Boston.
It has popped up in the papers and on the radio here a few times. Most recently today http://www.boston.com/sports/baseball/articles/2009/05/31/the_managerial_ranks/?page=4. Could Arias fill the utility roll? And would the Rangers put a package together to get a Masterson type player?
by Andrew in Boston on Jun 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
why would the rangers be remotely interested in moving Omar?
we’re 1st in our division and he would take the same role on a club we are competing in the AL with, we’re in a serious race at the moment and i see absolutely nothing to gain from moving a key piece on your 25 man.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 1, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there'd be relief help in return...a more immediate threat/need
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 1, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right now I see no need for bullpen help
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 1, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our bullpen is doing fine as is, but just think how much better it could be...
If you had another reliable 7th/8th inning set-up man to the mix? If you’re splitting those outs between Ceej, O’Day, and, say, Heath Bell (I just say Bell because his name was discussed on here a few weeks ago), then we don’t start panicking about overworking Ceej and O’Day and their arms wearing down in September.
Right now we have a solid bullpen. Add one reliable right-handed arm to it and it becomes a dominant bullpen.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 1, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Boston wants to give up significant value to get Vizquel...
…I have to think the Rangers would listen.
But I’d be surprised if they wanted to move him, and I certainly don’t think they’d package him plus other players of value for a Masterson-type right now.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 1, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My work buddy is a big Boston fan
And he said he’s heard that Boston was trying to trade Penny away for a SS….I don’t know how true this is, but would that be worth trading Visquel for..
by cspott on Jun 1, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count me among the puzzled
Penny is being talked about in media/rumor circles as a hot trade target this summer. He is performing like a 4th or 5th starter so I’m not sure why a team would go after him. Sure, he’s worth a Vizquel, but Boston is going to ask for more and I don’t want to give up more. I don’t see Penny as being any better than any of the Rangers’ current rotation.
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by t ball on Jun 1, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My Boston Buddy is trying to convince me that we are going after Penny and are offering Vizquel.
I just don’t buy it.
by FuturePants on Jun 1, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd make that trade, I guess
from a value standpoint, but I don’t see why Boston would. Penny is not really what TX needs, and Vizquel might be closer to what they need but I don’t see them giving up Penny to get him.
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by t ball on Jun 1, 2009 8:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which slot in the rotation would Penny improve?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 2, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my point, exactly
He is not really what TX needs, and would not be an improvement.
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by t ball on Jun 2, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clay Buchholz for Troy Tulowitzki
Who says no?
by tyd3311 on Jun 1, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clay heh
talk about going from a great situation to a shitty one…
i think they just want a stopgap until lowrie is back personally
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 1, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The thing is, with bringing out Fx2
is that, had it worked, it would have been a great decision. At some point, we just have to say, “well, shit.” and move on. And, yes, I have much more faith in Frankie than, say, Derek for another inning, or CJ, or Warner, or Everyday. I’d be okay with submarine, though.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 1, 2009 10:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm okay with the move either way
Its not like he was bringing in Benson or leaving CJ in for a 3rd inning or pitching 3 nights in a row. These moves all had the potential to work out with a small risk that it wouldn’t.
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by Gdawg on Jun 1, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't believe I'm going to miss Hamilton on Thursday
bummer.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 1, 2009 10:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sucks to have Josh hurting
going into the Boston/New York series. I’m really hoping we can get 2 out of 3 from both of them.
Your uncle molests collies.
by 3k on Jun 1, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Blue Uni's Suck!
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 1, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I liked the white unis with red hats, sox, etc
Looked sharp
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 1, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really would like to see
the teams record this year with Blue Caps versus Red Caps. I’m pretty sure the Red Cap record is significantly better.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 1, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's because our home record is significantly better...
Have we worn the red caps on the road?
by tyd3311 on Jun 1, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I heard
that packing red unis for the road is logistically impossible, which amused me.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 1, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only way to truly test the red caps is to wear them on the road.
by tyd3311 on Jun 1, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On Memorial Day
every team in baseball wore red caps, and yet half of them lost. 15/30 is a pretty significant statistical sampling.
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
by JBImaknee on Jun 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.500
but playing .500 ball for the rest of the season probably gets Texas into the playoffs.
by baylor on Jun 1, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Half of the teams that play baseball always lose.
I think JB was just making a red uniform joke.
by jwiscarson on Jun 1, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hahaha
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 1, 2009 5:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two points on bringing Frankie in for the 9th
1. With the game tied going into the 9th, I don’t think Wash wanted to risk ending the game without using his best relief pitcher. Given that Frankie was fresh and Monday is an off day, it made sense to get Frankie into the game on Sunday.
2. Wash may remember Holland’s game against the Angels. Holland went 2.2 innings, fell apart, and could not finish the game. Maybe Wash didn’t want to put Holland in the same situation again.
by cstorm15 on Jun 1, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't falling apart.
He was settling in, if anything. Did you watch the 8th inning?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 1, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it me...
…or has Kinsler been looking really off lately? I know he got robbed yesterday, but every time I watch a game he’s chasing bad pitches and popping the ball up, a lot. Any thoughts?
by Big50 on Jun 1, 2009 10:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
possibly in part because he hit nothing but line drives at the beginning of the season
but it’s been rough the past few weeks
by texasraider on Jun 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's forgotten the art of the 2 bagger.
5 doubles the last 40 games. Think about that.
by tyd3311 on Jun 1, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He looks like he’s trying to hit the moon shot every time he swings. He’s been uppercutting on the ball for a few weeks now. His patience has been awful and he’s not swinging at good pitches. He needs to settle down and concentrate on making solid contact. If he does that, the power numbers will be there.
by Athos on Jun 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's funny
you could put so many names on this lineup in for the “He” in that sentence.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 1, 2009 2:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thankfully Nellie has been hot
he’s raised his OPS 100+ points in the last 10 days while it seems everybody else has been looking horrible.
Cruz is up to .296 / .360 / .592 now.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was little worried about him reverting back to AAAA Cruz a few weeks ago,
But I’m feeling more confident by the day that he really is for real and the corner has been turned.
by tyd3311 on Jun 1, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I think he needed this last stretch just to make sure ;)
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 1, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he can get it together
I think most of our lineup can. I know Davis CAN, but we’ve never seen a slump at any level out of him like this. I can’t judge until he actually pulls himself out of it.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
An off day after a loss is nature's way of punching you in your baseball penis.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
I have never heard it put so eloquently. You, sir, are a master of language.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 1, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
it gives you time to do polls on Chris Davis.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 1, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At least it wasn't
What to do with Chris Davis’s pole.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 1, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak it?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 1, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak's not quite ready yet...
I’d say you give it the Max Ram
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well done, sir
You get a rec from me.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 1, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it had said "baseballs" instead of penis
I would’ve rec’d it myself.
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by Parman on Jun 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I haven't seen this addressed
Does Hicks financial woes have an impact on JD’s execution of the draft and the International FA period?
If someone like Purke falls, would JD have permission to draft him and get him signed?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 1, 2009 11:07 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's been talked about..
And the answer seems to be, no, it won’t impact it.
by tyd3311 on Jun 1, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that's right
But I don’t see how it wouldn’t. The team is on the block because Hicks apparently can’t afford to keep it. I don’t see what his motivation would be to invest millions more than he has to for a player that isn’t going to make any impact while he still owns the team.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 1, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
i cant imagine how it doesnt have an impact, you dont spend like a drunken sailor when your broke.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 1, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But if the money is already in the Rangers' budget for the season
I don’t see why it would be an issue.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 1, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Budgets can be cut
Particularly if money is tight.
by Darrell McKown on Jun 1, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to an informed, educated buyer...
it makes the team more attractive long term, no?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i dont think its an "if" regarding purke
i think its pretty much he is going to fall, with the question being how much
he could be the gerritt cole of this class (and could get picked by the yankees w/ their comp pick for not signing cole)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 1, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that dude scares me, he looks like his arm could go dave draveki at any second
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 1, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
purke?
or cole lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 1, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thought on Mitch Moreland
Scott Lucas noted this morning that Moreland has played exclusively in right since the call-up to Frisco, even when Smoak has been out of the lineup, and that this is a change from his previous assignments.
Could it be that the club has decided to evaluate Moreland as a potential near-term contributor to the big league outfield mix? I don’t see it happening this year, but what if they were bowled over by an offer for Nellie Cruz this winter? Assuming neither Byrd nor Jones is re-signed, you could potentially run out a 2010 OF mix of Murphy in LF, Borbon in CF, Hamilton in RF, Boggs as the 4th OF, and Moreland as a RF/DH/1B contributor.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 1, 2009 11:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
promotion
Anytime a player reaches AA you can’t rule out a quick promotion to the MLs. (see Moscoso) I think the team realizes that 1B at the ML level is filled for the next 7-8 years so they are putting Moreland in the OF. Not only does it increase the system OF depth, it also increase Moreland’ s value.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 1, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It could happen, I guess
and that probably represents a good outcome among all the possibles for Moreland.
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by t ball on Jun 1, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Callis isn't Moreland as an outfielder
[Comment From James Decker]
Follow-up question to your comment on Moreland: the Rangers have been using him exclusively in right field since his promotion to Frisco, even when Smoak has been out of the lineup. Do you think Moreland has a chance to stick as a COF, or is this just a short-term experiment destined to fail?
Jim Callis: I think they’re trying to increase his options, but I don’t think Moreland can play the outfield in the majors on anything more than an emergency basis.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 1, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should say "Callis isn't optimistic on Moreland as an outfielder"
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 1, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good day today
found out I made an A in National Government ..then I called in and won a prize on the radiO
by Mike E on Jun 1, 2009 12:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
congratulations
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 1, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton
gets an MRI today and sees the specialist on Tuesday. Is the doctor not returning to the office on Tues or do the Rangers just not have enough “pull” to get eveything done today? I am assuming Josh won’ t be in the lineup tomorrow night.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 1, 2009 2:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
MRIs are typically done completely indepent of MD presence.
MRI gets done, doctor reads it at his convenience. It could also be two different doctors that are being dealt with here.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 1, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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