OT: Driver of Adenhart's car drunk, underage
by ghtd36 on Jun 11, 2009 12:42 PM CDT
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PrintThe tragic Nick Adenhart situation just gets sadder, as the Orange County Weekly has obtained autopsy reports that show that Courtney Stewart, the woman who was driving the car in which Adenhart was driving, was drunk.
However, I obtained a copy of a toxicological report this morning showing that Courtney Stewart was also driving while intoxicated, with a blood alcohol content of .16 percent, twice the legal limit assuming that Stewart, who was 20, was allowed to drink. The legal limit for underage drivers is actually .01 percent, meaning that Stewart was 16 times drunker than the law allows.
Andrew Gallo, the driver of the other car, was drunk and driving with a suspended license due to a DUI (and apparently ran a red light), but I can't imagine this helps the prosecutor's case for the strictest of punishments.
I know we've got a lot of lawyers on this blog; anyone know what this could do to the case against Gallo?
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not sure
but it seems that you can almost throw the case out. driving drunk + underage seems equal to driving drunk + suspended license.
although i remember hearing that gallo ran a red light
is it generally assumed that adenhart’s car was not at fault?
There is no way that cancells out
I’m sorry the guy had several DUI’s and a suspended license. He should not have been on the road. If you have more than 1 DUI you should be serving some time and be getting some help. It doesn’t matter who it was that died this guy should never see the light of day again. IMO
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
It may not cancel out
but she was driving drunk and two other people died besides her. If he is charged with murder for people dying while he was driving drunk, she is just as guilty. The fact he was more drunk shouldn’t have anything to do with it since she was twice the legal limit herself. She drove drunk, two people died. It may not have been completely her fault, but she should have never been behind the wheel. Also, I wonder if she could have avoided the accident if she would have been sober? Probably no way to know, but any chance she had of being more aware of her surroundings and avoiding the wreck went out the window with her fourth jack and coke. I am not trying to blame the victim so to speak, I just don’t see her as a victim since she was sh*t-faced as well.
It is only a matter of time
Before this guy drives drunk again and kills someone else if he is not convicted. She has already got her sentence handed to her and she paid the ultimate price.
This guy ran a red light and killed someone. You are right we will never know what would have happened if she were sober. How many of us here have driven home knowing we probably shouldn’t have. That is one thing but to do it over and over again is inexcusable, it is like playing with a loaded gun. This guy has been warned and fined out the ass he just kept making the choice to drink and drive now he should have to pay.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I am not taking up the for the guy
I think the book should have been thrown at him long before he got in this accident. Unfortunately, since she was also drunk, the case against him is may fall apart and he may end up getting a much lesser sentence, resulting in him getting back on the road and doing this again.
Huh? You can almost throw the case out?
That makes zero sense.
So because she was drunk the case against the other drunk driver is in jeopardy?
I don’t get this logic.
And, yah, the minivan guy ran a red light then fled the scene of the accident.
She was apparently drunk, but was obeying the traffic laws at the time when this dude came across and killed them.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 11, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
yea, I think this guy will definitely serve a long time in jail, but im not sure if you could convict
him of murder with that evidence, but there are so many othe laws that guy was breaking that it will be a long time b4 he says the outside world
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
So if I run outside start randomly shooting my gun in very direction and end up killing a dude one neighborhood over...
…but then it turns out he was doing the exact same thing in his neighborhood, they can’t convict me of murder?
He was disobeying the law, too.
But I still killed him.
I don’t see how this effects the case one single bit.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 11, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions
It wouldn't effect it.
It might affect it. But it shouldn’t. I’m not a lawyer but if you kill someone you kill someone.
by Black Francis on Jun 11, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah, the effect/affect grammer police
Every time I see that I really really want to scream out “AFFECT, NOT EFFECT!” But I don’t.
Go Rice Owls!
Oh, snap! Grammar police in the hizouse!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 12, 2009 8:19 AM CDT up reply actions
Its clearly self defense
The drunken Gallo took the other drunk out before she could take him out.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
its a tragedy
but this constant barrage on the guy just b/c hes a pro player reminds me a lot of when CNN MSNBC FOXNews all hammer us about the missing rich white girl from the suburbs for weeks and never mentions the poor black girl who has been missing for 3 times as long and lives 2 miles away.
tragic, no doubt. but FFS! how many people have died in DWI crashes since then that never get mentioned while we discuss the tragedy of a ballplayer?
i wish there was some perspective on this stuff, and i know im coming off like a cynical prick but this shit happens to multiple families every day and it gets totally ignored and no1 cares, no1 demands change, no1 says a word but then a ballplayer dies in the same way and itll never be forgotten?
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Yep
While drunk driving is stupid and it is sad when anyone dies, the media coverage is different depending on who dies. A professional athlete dies and it is front page news for months and we are constantly told how sad it is. However, when Donte Stallworth drove drunk and killed someone it was reported for about 24 hours and then never mentioned again. I guess the guy Stallworth killed wasn’t popular enough to warrant coverage.
yeah
not so much prick but really annoying and pointless and wrong.
I guess it’s wrong that the ballplayer gets focus as opposed to the black girl but its not like there is some racist overtone here. If he was black, he’d still get a lot of focus. It’s just about being famous. Famous people are already in the news. Their deaths are automatically news.
anyway, it’s not like this is rehashing of old news. it’s fairly significant that the driver of his car was drunk and it is worthy of conversation.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
i think you missed my point on the kidnapping thing
if jon benet ransey was a black girl from compton, we woulda never heard about her. white girl from suburbs of heartland? 4+ years of coverage. that is racism imho. what i was really talking about is what uthorhfan mentions, and the stallworth or what was that cowboy who did that? they dont ever talk about the other side.
hell one NFL guy has had multiple DWI incidents involving multiple killings and he was suspended 1/2 a season or something really stupid. london fletcher? killed some1 too, future HOFer wont ever be mentioned again. Bob Hayes? not a HOFer b/c he had drug issues… this kid will goto jail forever and fletcher spends the offseason in jail. shit’s fucked.
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by Dirk Diggler on Jun 11, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions
Are black girls from compton a race?
It’s a socioeconomic issue if anything.
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Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 11, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
So... you're saying the media would care if it were a *rich* black girl?
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 11, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions
If she is of age I would
I like black women! :)
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I agree 100%
don’t change the economic status of the two when deciding if race is a factor. If it was a black girl in a rich suburb, the coverage would be very similar
yep
"You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test...I'll give you back every dime I've ever made...I'll put that up against the jobs of anyone who writes this stuff...Make them accountable. There should be more credibility than some 42-year-old blogger typing in his mother's basement."
Natalie Holloway
Not rich, but a white girl.
Only the Linbergh baby abduction got more press.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 11, 2009 7:32 PM CDT up reply actions
These days
everything gets more press than the Lindbergh baby. There are simply too many news channels.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
True, but obviously I was speaking metaphorically
Insert the most famous missing person of the day in place of “Lindbergh baby.”
Holloway was pretty much the Lance Armstrong of disappearees.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 11, 2009 9:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't think that had a lot more to do with the intriguing circumstances than it did her race?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 11, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think her being young, white, female, and attractive was the driving factor
I’ll grant you this. If she was white, but fat, ugly, and/or old, she’d get a good deal less press.
What was so intriguing about it? A woman that disappeared was last seen leaving a bar w/ a couple of guys or one other guy (depending on which story you believe). I bet that’s the case for A LOT of disappearances.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 12, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions
media went pretty ape shit over jennifer hudson's family getting murdered
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I'd assert that was almost solely because of her fame
Jennifer Hudson is still rich, but not famous? Coverage evaporates 300%.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 11, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Same if she'd been white, though.
Fame >>>>>>> Race.
Let’s face it, tons and tons of crimes happen each day, they can’t all be a big deal.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 11, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah
“Interesting” sells more than “depressing.”
It seems to have very little to do with race, fame, or socioeconomic status, to me, except as a means to an end, which is to sell. It’s the consuming public that’s to blame, if anyone.
by brettgardner on Jun 11, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
i just dont think average people care that much about that stuff and its crammed down every1 throat
hell parents are terrified to let their 8 year old ride his bike to his buddies house these days and it scares the shit out of me to think what these helmeted, elbow padded, kid leashed children are gonna end up like.
what happens when their 16 and lost? and you cant where a helmet forever…
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
*Yawn*
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 12, 2009 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
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Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 13, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm not sure whether to laugh or cringe.
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I'd suggest both.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 14, 2009 3:29 AM CDT up reply actions
I'm not wholly convince that's true
As much as I’d like to be, I just don’t think it’s the case.
Media coverage definitely has race bias concerning crime victims. There’s also some socioeconomic bias so sometimes it’s hard to see what’s what.
Old White Man shot randomly while sitting on porch in trailer park.
Old White Man shot randomly while sitting on porch in Preston Hollow.
Which gets more coverage?
10 year old black girl abducted from Plano.
10 year old white girl abducted from Plano.
Which gets more coverage? On this one I can all but guarantee that the coverage would be pretty equal in the beginning, but there’d be a lot more follow up on the second story.
by Black Francis on Jun 11, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
kidnapping
um, who cares? are you bitching just to bitch? people were trying to talk about adenhardt and drunk driving until you tried to quash it with, “we only care cause he’s famous.”
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
well fucking talk about the dead ballplayer then, jackass
there is absolutely nothing stopping you other than not really having anything whatsoever to, you know, actually add to the conversation.
but get going. what is it that you just gotta get of your chest regarding the incident?
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
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