Rangers sign El Duque to Minor League Deal
by texasrfan on Jun 11, 2009 3:40 PM CDT
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Free agent right-hander Orlando Hernandez, who last pitched with the New York Mets in 2007, has signed a minor league deal with the Rangers. Hernandez will begin working out with the Oklahoma City RedHawks this weekend and is expected to be on the roster next week.
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Why?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 11, 2009 3:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Because the Rangers
have very little major league ready depth. Seeing TheAsianKid in the rotation should have explained the why question.
Its the same reason the Rangers signed Benson to an NRI this year.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 11, 2009 3:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Asian Kid
That’s a horrible nickname. Makes no sense.
by Topgun22 on Jun 11, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
I know it’s derivation, I just think it’s dumb. It’s like, “Let’s call Andrus ‘white boy’, because y’know the most famous Elvis was white” Just doesn’t make sense, doesnt fit the person as a nickname should.
by Topgun22 on Jun 11, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Bad pitcher
deserves a bad nickname.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 11, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's lucky that he even gets a nickname
poor souls like Benson just get an adjective, like “DFA”
by Telegraph on Jun 11, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now Mathis is going to lose his number
Jason Grilli was recently dealt to the Rangers and now he’s working on a deal of his own. According to his Twitter, Grilli plans to exchange “cash or an item to be named later” for number 49.
but he might get paid
"If you want to pitch numbers, go pitch at Petco. It’s as simple as that. Come here if you want to win." - Mike Maddux
by Panorama on Jun 11, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hernandez is done.
I don’t see him ever helping the major league team. The starts that would potentially be given to him would be better served giving to Hunter/Moscoso/Nippert…hell, give pirate a few starts.
by Butters on Jun 12, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's Old...
And likely older than everyone thinks.
by Topgun22 on Jun 11, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Yay!
We have our Benson replacement!
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 11, 2009 3:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Face off
Would you rather see El Duque or The Asian Kid?
by Telegraph on Jun 11, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
They both suck.
I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 11, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suck off
Would you rather see El Duque or The Asian Kid?
by Telegraph on Jun 11, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather not have either around me in a suck off
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jun 11, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why did this make me cry?
Something about the progression of this thread, good grief…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 11, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's not like we just signed someone good to a contract...
A most likely crap pitcher being signed deserves a mostly crap thread :)
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jun 11, 2009 6:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
I’d rather not have either around me in a suck off
In a totally juvenile way this made me completely crack up. Anyway, carry on…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 11, 2009 9:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
probably El Duque
but if you can have both in the system for no real cost, why not?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 11, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's the average age of the AAA rotation now?
Benson is 34. El Duke is 43. lol
by behindthebag on Jun 11, 2009 3:54 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Other news
I don’t know if this has been posted anywhere else but Stark says the Rangers are also heavily scouting Huston Street.
by pblack on Jun 11, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not Paul Byrd?
"If you want to pitch numbers, go pitch at Petco. It’s as simple as that. Come here if you want to win." - Mike Maddux
by Panorama on Jun 11, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Kinda sounds like he screwed himself…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 11, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't mind taking a flyer on Byrd, stats weren't bad last year.
4.60 in the AL, I could live with that on the back end of our rotation.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
by RA Dickey on Jun 11, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is a perfect filler til Sheets is ready
Also, never heard of him being linked to Rangers before, amazing they got him compared to one of the NY teams getting him. El Duke at 39 or 43 is better than Benson. He was never a stuff guy, more about deception, which can play at 40 something.
by gamerabcd on Jun 11, 2009 4:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There is nothing wrong with this.
Its one of those signings that if it works out, then you have a serviceable starter and if it doesnt, what have you lost? Why not take the chance?
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jun 11, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ha!
I was pushing this on multiple threads during the offseason when i read on MLBTR that he wanted to return, but I figured he gave up the ghost when he hadn’t signed by the time the season started. He has remained effective even in old age, but he just can’t stay healthy.
As with any low risk/X reward scenario, I’m for it! Make me proud, El Duque!
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 11, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yay
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
by gossamer on Jun 11, 2009 4:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
El Dookie
meh, NRI, what the hey.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 11, 2009 4:42 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yep
exactly…once again, we have people get up in arms about NRI’s w/o understanding that there is about as little risk as it gets when you sign them
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 12, 2009 3:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Now just sign Pedro Martinez and Tom Glavine
by dustym on Jun 11, 2009 6:02 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Imagine a rotation at AAA of...
Kris Benson
Orlando Hernandez
Pedro Martinez
Tom Glavine
Think we could coax Greg Maddux out of retirement to join that group?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
by rangers85 on Jun 11, 2009 6:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
John Franco
in the pen.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 11, 2009 8:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love it
"You can have my urine, my hair, my blood, my stool -- anything you can test...I'll give you back every dime I've ever made...I'll put that up against the jobs of anyone who writes this stuff...Make them accountable. There should be more credibility than some 42-year-old blogger typing in his mother's basement."
by Longhorn on Jun 11, 2009 6:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There are 2 guys who have had decent success at this level that I've never wanted on this team...
Orlando Hernandez and Jose Contreras.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 11, 2009 6:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well, hell...
WS here we come….
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 11, 2009 6:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 11, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts:
… why?
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 11, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because it doesn't cost anything
and he might be pretty good.
Wouldn’t you say there is a decent chance that he is at least better than Luis Mendoza or Doug Mathis? As we’ve seen those guys are just an injury or two away from being on the staff, why not grab a free insurance policy when you have the chance?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 11, 2009 9:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, I guess.
Can’t be any worse than Kris Benson.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 11, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasnt pitched in the majors since 2007 for a reason
im pretty sure its b/c many teams didnt agree that there is a decent chance that he is at least better than Luis Mendoza or Doug Mathis
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 12, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
could it have been injuries?
his 06 and 07 campaigns werent terrible
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by studcrackers on Jun 12, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You guys are mostly aghast
but I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised if he is pretty good out of the bullpen. I don’t really want to see him get starts, but out of the bullpen he’d probably be a decent long or middle guy.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 11, 2009 8:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't love it
But only because I remember him when he was a damn good pitcher for NY. How I hated those Yankee teams…
by alon91 on Jun 11, 2009 11:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He brings in a hefty bag of playoff experience
by oc on Jun 12, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could have a nice effect on that Neftali kid
by tyd3311 on Jun 12, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was my thought as well
Could be much more of a help just by playing around with Feliz on off days and showing him different breaking pitches and explaining the art of pitching. Kinda like an Latin American Nolan for his to work under
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 12, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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