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OT: Bryce Harper drops HS for pros

Las Vegas High School baseball phenom Bryce Harper, 16, is dropping out of high school two years early in order to speed his ascent to the pros, the Las Vegas Review-Journal reports.

Harper, a 16-year-old who just completed his sophomore year, has registered at the College of Southern Nevada, where he plans to attend classes in August and play for the Coyotes next season.

His father (surprise!) thinks this is the smartest thing ever.

"Bryce is always looking for his next challenge," Ron Harper said. "He's going to pursue his education, too. He's going to get pushed academically and athletically.

"I don't see a problem with it. I think we've handled it the right way. I think it will be a great story."

These steps should make him eligible for next year's draft, where he's basically a lock to be the No. 1 pick.

For those unfamiliar with Harper, he's supposedly the greatest prep baseball player of all time. He was recently on the cover of Sports Illustrated proclaiming him as "Baseball's Chosen One."

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His 2009 numbers for Las Vegas High School are astounding: .626, 14 HRs, 55 RBI, 36 SBs for the 6-foot-3 catcher/shortstop.

Not sure how I feel about a high schooler skipping high school to become a pro, but I suppose it's the world we live in.

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Not a big deal

If he thinks he can hack it, then ok… The Nats will have a good position player to go along with their ACE

This is our year.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c

by PM Productions on Jun 15, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

yep

to each person his own. If its the best thing for him and what he wants to do, then by all means. This isnt gonna effect the system all that much unless you are a freak like Harper who is a given to be in the top couple picks.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 15, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It is harder for a 16yo

in the US to become eligible for the draft then it is for someone in LA to sign a contract. No big deal. He gets his GED, plays a season of JuCo ball and becomes the #1 pick.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 15, 2009 4:19 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

this is why im 100% ok with it

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 15, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree,

and was thinking the exact same thing. Of course I do think it says something at least remotely good about this country that we care more about these kids and want them to get at least some education.

"...like some Russian priest fresh off a bottle of potato vodka and a box of cigars." -t ball

by rangerdanger on Jun 15, 2009 5:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a load of crap

as long as their is a provision for the club to cover future education expense, its not the job prodigy to scale his development around what convenient to all our weak average minds.

who the hell are we in this country to tell these kids what to do.

“you can be whatever you want johnny, unless its inconvenient to our league”
- NFL and NBA Commish

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 15, 2009 8:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

gagree

If the kid is ready, the kid is ready. These teams/leagues have tons of money that they can always guarantee a kid’s education if the athletic thing doesn’t work out.

I’m 100% always in favor of the kid skipping school or whatever and going for it. You can always go back to school later.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 15, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that it's not that big a deal

if he was from the Dominican, we’d be all over him.

by Sherman McCoy on Jun 15, 2009 4:52 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm sure it works economically

But what about socially? On the one hand it could stunt his social growth. On the other hand he could have no idea how to adjust and turn into Josh Hamilton. Finally, if I was 17 attending college with a ton of chicks that knew I’d be getting a huge signing bonus in the near future, life could be fun.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 15, 2009 4:57 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

you think his high school teammates hate him now?

i think i would

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jun 15, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

the gravy train just pulled out of the station

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jun 15, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

probably not, I think id understand if i was playing with him. I wouldnt blame him for a second.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 15, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im sure that every one of his teammates

would do the same thing

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 15, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

they'd probably do the same thing

i think they just didn’t see it coming, but then again, maybe they did.

I’m sure they had visions of multiple state titles dancing in their heads.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jun 15, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup, not to mention scouts coming out and watching games and seeing his teammates...

hurts their road some at either getting drafted or scholarship.

Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.

by rangers85 on Jun 15, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If they're that selfish, then eff them in their collective a's.

You could say the same thing for every kid who leaves college early in the draft for any of the major sports. The teammates might be dissapointed, but hate the kid for taking steps to turn pro? No. Not unless they’re dumb, and fuck dumb people. They’re the worst. I wish I could kill every dumb person with some sort of sex device. The world would be awesome sans the dumb-dumbs.

The kid’s gotta do what’s best for him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha, nice

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 15, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if i ever see that on a late nite commercial

we will know that DA Tron hit it big

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 15, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh

’’now sold separately."

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The dickatron

Goes great with Slap Chop- you’re gonna love my nuts!

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 16, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you think education is or should be a priority for athletes,

I’ll never understand you.

Good for this kid. I’m excited to see just how good he’ll be. The coverage of him is over the top, and I’m not necessarily buying it yet.

by ericeric on Jun 15, 2009 5:16 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Logic and Reasoning

I would like to hear your reasoning behind your first statement. What issues do you see with promoting the value of education for athletes?

"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"

by Heebs on Jun 15, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throwing my 2 cents in

A lot of the top athletes (if not all) never take their education seriously anyways and either do the bare minimum or get the bare minimum done for them. They also are going to make a hell of a lot of money in their sport to never need to know the things they’d learn in school anyways. Its kind of pointless to try and tell an Offensive Lineman that he’s going to need to know calculus or the history of medieval Britain or whatever class they’d end up taking.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 15, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

...waiting for the other 42 cents

This is a long, tired discussion featuring several different schools of thought from very well represented sides.

Even as a professional in the sport’s industry, I find it extremely irresponsible to take the athletes POV in this topic. This is most true when discussing professional baseball.

The attrition rate in professional sport for athletes is extremely high. I don’t feel like it would be a stretch that to say that 90% of all athletes who go pro in baseball don’t get a cup of coffee in the show. Continuing to subtract the 1st-5th round prospects who earn a signing bonus to set them for life, this still leaves at least 80-85% who don’t sniff the show.

My question is why look at the 15-20% cases (which may be a generous number) when considering the value of promoting education. We should be considering the vast majority who don’t make the show and what kind of money they are earning as a professional. In addition, where are they left afterwords?

Even if we should not strictly prohibit these student athletes from having the option to turn professional, I think it is our responsibility to promote the value of education and to very clearly articulate the risks associated with turning professional without one.

At times the issue may be a lost cause as some athletes may be less interested. Some may have successful professional careers and not have needed the education. The majority however will need the education and may pick up some life skills along the way (such has how to budget your earnings).

"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"

by Heebs on Jun 15, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

let me ask you something

there are a lot of average joes who take 6+ years to graduate while working on the side, their are a lot of average joes that screw around til their 23 and then buckle down and they can end up with PHD’s ive seen it happen. My point is, who are we to judge or recommend a kid not use that same time that average joe’s struggle to find their dreams, chasing theirs? School can come when his dream has been exhausted and at 23 he’s going to a university like so many others his age, yet its paid for b/c he chased his dream. I cant imagine a scholarship can give that sense of accomplishment even in failure.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 15, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

If baseball is his dream then college is his fallback regardless. He’ll have the option to go if that’s what he wants to do. It’s not devaluing his education it’s a smart business decision to take the money now and go back to school later. College classrooms are open to people 17-65. That’s not the case with professional sports.

He’s required to have graduated high school or get his GED. Plenty of successful people never get more than that. I hope he does go back to college when all is said and done but if someone offers me that kind of deal at his age I would hope my parents would encourage me to take the money and run. Just like his parents are doing now. That’s not a disservice to the kid it’s being realistic that he’s probably not going to earn millions even if he does go to college. Most of us don’t.

by Hull Fan on Jun 16, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good move. I wish I could've done that. I sure didn't need to be bored by the last two years of HS.

Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D

by rooster on Jun 15, 2009 5:26 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I had two friends who did it.

Not to play ball, but just to get the hell out of high school. Their parents were behind them 100 percent and they’re doing very well last I heard.

by Black Francis on Jun 16, 2009 4:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah this is a no brainer for him

He can always go back to school for real later on…

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 15, 2009 5:39 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Only problem I have with this is...

I wish the Rangers could be in on this. On the other hand we have a shot at the playoffs this year and a chance to dominate the West for years. Good luck kid I wish the best for ya.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 15, 2009 5:44 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Oh if there is anyway

at all to make him a FA, Boras will find it

by Michael Cave on Jun 15, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he was in the Domincan

he’d be commanding millions like Ynoa last year and no one would give a damn about his education.

He’s not learning anything playing high school ball. In fact he’s wasting another year worrying about getting hurt before he cashes in. As long as his parents make him go to class and get the grades good for him. I wish I had the option to go to school early if it meant getting a seven figure bonus check.

You just hope the Nats if they draft him are careful. Maybe because he’s 17 you put him in a DSL league that first year instead of rookie ball. He’s got time and the opportunity to push him up a level can certainly come but if they’re careful he sounds like a hellva player.

by Hull Fan on Jun 15, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Going to the Nat's may make him reconsider and put it off another year

I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.

by Chaim Witz on Jun 15, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why not put him in rookie ball?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 15, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It will depend on where the organization

thinks he’s ready to play. Rookie ball as a 17 year old is not unheard of with the Latin kids. If he can handle it fine, but if they want to take it slow and put him against peers in his age group, then DSL is an option. All I meant was the club has options and he will not be ruined by signing a pro contract at the tender ripe age of 17. Just like all the Latin kids are not exploited by doing so either.

by Hull Fan on Jun 16, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DSL

I really doubt it would help his comfort level to send him to another country that speaks a different language and stranding him there. I’m pretty sure that is what the latin guys like the least so I guess you want him to share their pain?

by bushe on Jun 16, 2009 8:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

to me you have two options really

either put him in rookie or send him to extended — that said, he should be WAY more ready from just about every standpoint than a 17 y/o latin kid for rookie ball…right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd send him to low-A.

The kid is special, special.

If Martin Perez can handle the NWL at 17 and the low-A a week or two after he turned 18, then a special talent like Harper wouldbe able to at least not be overwhelmed by low-A at 17.

Of couse there won’t be much of the minor league season left by the time he signs a few minutes before the deadline or whatever.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 16, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he was smart

and the nats were smart you would thinkthey would sign hhim ASAP — same w/ strassburg

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's gonna be a huge overslot contract.

It’s not getting done ’till the last moment and everyone knows it.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 16, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

yet another reason to push the deadline up to the middle of july. It will be very interesting to see how he performs at JuCo. Im sure the So. Nevada coach is just ecstatic. Gets Bryce Harper and his older brother who seems to be pretty good as well.

by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 2:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh i doubt he gives a good damn about his brother LOL

is harper going to be living at home?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

At a certain point,

school is overrated except for the girls. That shouldn’t be a problem.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 15, 2009 5:47 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Awesome for him.

It’ll be interesting to see if MLB tries to block this somehow.

Seems pretty slamdunk, but you never know.

Selig’s a massive tool.

Never underestimate the tooliness of a tool.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 5:54 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Fuck the Bud

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 15, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blocking it

If anything they might create a rule based on this, but I think the Bryce Harper ship has sailed…

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jun 15, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dunno. I haven't read the CBA.

How strongly is the “Graduating Class” clause worded?

I know the only two guys in recent memory who were ruled eligible to be drafted prior to graduating HS (Bonderman and Landon Powell) were technically juniors at the time, but they had been held back as youngsters and so the “Graduating Class” rule made them eligible since technically they’re “Class” was graduating even though they were just juniors with GED’s.

They’re might be some legal recourse available to MLB if they wanted to use it, I don’t know.

Boras and the Harper family obviously believe there isn’t or they wouldn’t have done this.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 6:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you sure he's being represented by Boras?

Last I heard he was being represented by some young hot-shot agent named Mo C. Larett…

"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"

by Heebs on Jun 15, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe so.

I thought I heard Boras, but that might just be my memory effing with me.

It often does that, probably cause I jab it with q-tips all the time.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

nvm, ha.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

x
How strongly is the "Graduating Class" clause worded?

I thought this would be a really easy question to answer, but the truth is, the answer lies within the PBA, and I can’t find that bitch anywhere. I’ve just found the summary version on MLB’s website, which is good for nothing.

Anyone else have it? I’m dying of curiosity now.

by brettgardner on Jun 15, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cots has it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

cots baseball contracts

Anything you need to know about player contracts right here

link

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 8:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Appreciate the link

And that definitely looks like a site I’ll be checking on quite a bit, but I don’t see the PBA there either.

The CBA and Official Rules aren’t what I’m looking for. For some reason, it seems MLB has segmented everything and yet not compiled them anywhere.

by brettgardner on Jun 15, 2009 8:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whats the PBA?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 8:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hows that different from the CBA?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmmm

had never heard of a PBA before

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume that's where the information pertaining to draft eligibility is?

I’ve never read the CBA and I didn’t even know there was such a thing as the PBA until this thread.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah.

It’s weird. I suppose I always assumed draft eligibility information was in the CBA or stuck in the official rules.

I love how baseball does nothing easily.

by brettgardner on Jun 15, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sorry

link

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

eh

don’t care. wonder if this will happen a lot more now (like the nba drafting players like jonathanbender)

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 15, 2009 6:00 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Read the article on the way back from New Orleans this weekend

The guy, I think hes past “kid” stage, seems to get it. Hes cocky but at the same time knows he has to work to get better. Sounds alot like Tiger and Lebron did when they turned pro and before. As long as he stays healthy hes gonna be a beast for a long long time

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 15, 2009 6:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

huh?

he’s not dropping anything. He’s still going to get his GED. People graduate early all the time anyways…

usa

by Longhorn on Jun 15, 2009 7:08 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

it will have all been worth it

when he gets drafted next year and does not sign and then goes back to school.

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 15, 2009 7:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

its a win-win for him isnt it lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 15, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought's that pretty much a guarantee to happen

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 15, 2009 7:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He wants to get paid

make bank bro!

can’t say I blame him, who knows if he stayed in high school he might suffer a career ending injury.
getting his GED and cashing in now give him a better chance.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 15, 2009 8:10 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Honestly, would you want to stick around against kids who aren't any competition for you?

Everyone likes to be good at stuff, but there’s a reason I don’t trot down to the local junior high and play against the 7th graders when I want to play some some hoops.

As much fun as it is to dominate people, after a while it just starts being stupid.

If I were an opposing coach I’d i-walk him every single AB.

I can’t imagine that’d be much fun for him.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 15, 2009 9:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the footy dev theory

is to get them as young as possible into a level of competition to push their dev at a pro level. i truly dont see the downside of this approach as it seems to get the most out of the kids on a professional level (youth academies include scholastic as well as the athletic emphasis). yet they are in a professional setting coaching and dev-wise from a much younger age.

same thing happens every day at the rangers youth academy in venezuela or the DR. its great, and i wish the academy system would come to this country.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 15, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

some would call private schools part of the dev academy ;)

and it actually has at some levels…

see IMG Academies

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

He’s clearly better than his current competition and continuing to play against these high school teams is only going to make people cry.

I heard a story a while back about some little league kid that the other parents voted out of the league because he was too good and the parents were afraid he’d hurt someone.

And dont underestimate those 7th graders, they have skills!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 16, 2009 5:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sounds like a kid my brother played with when he was 12

lefty pitcher, threw 3/4 and slung the ball up there — was throwing mid 80s at 12 and when he was 11 throwing low 80s he hit a kids helmet (old hemlet) just i the right place and broke it

that said, the best athlete i have ever seen (age wise) is a kid named brock duke…at age 13 was 6’1’’, sat in the upper 80s and had been clocked breaking 90, wicked 12-6 curve, really good change and covered more distance than andrus does now…also beat cuba for one of the jr national teams a while back…but he had TJ a few years later and was never really the same after that (committed to Utah for baseball — thats where hes from, Spanish Fork, UT)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it would be more exciting...

if two years ago, seeing his prodigy, decided this was his path and moved the Dominican Republic and applied for citizenship. take the time it takes to get citizenship, and then get signed this summer along with all the other young kids, but versus the draft, be able to pick his team and negotiate a signing bonus.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Jun 16, 2009 7:39 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure it's worth giving up your American citizenship for that

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 8:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He'll get back

when he marries a golddigger

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

get it*

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 8:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah still not worth it

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 8:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

depends

whats to keep him from doing that, signing and then applying for american citizenship ASAP after signing?

equally, if hes a boras guy you know this was considered/brought up lol — i bet boras is just looking for a guy to do that (kind of like how MLB teams — angels, dodgers, etc — have been trying to sign a top japanese HS kid for years)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think going the juco route

and delaying it by one year is a smarter choice than giving up your american citizenship.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if its all about the money

the question is, can he get a bigger bonus via DR route or via draft route?

(im playing devil’s advocate by the way — im totally with you on the citizenship thing)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well that's the thing

I don’t think it’s ALL about the money. If it was, he probably would’ve gone to the DR.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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