Tuesday a.m. Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 16, 2009 8:20 AM CDT
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Three game series with the Astros starts today.
Jeff Wilson has a story up about Ranger first rounder Matt Purke, who thinks that he will be able to come to an agreement with the Rangers on a contract.
Evan Grant thinks that a lineup shakeup is in order, and suggests an arrangement with Omar Vizquel leading off and playing second base, with Ian Kinsler moving to DH and hitting 6th.
Meanwhile, over in Anaheim, Ervin Santana won't make his start tonight due to forearm soreness.
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Beavan last night....
Anyone think Volstad and Beavan are comps? Similar size, similar peripherals at both low-A and high-A.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 16, 2009 8:23 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think
Beavan is slowly starting to work his way back up prospect charts due to his increase in velocity. Really wish he would have had decent defense behind him yesterday.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What was his velocity last night?
by FuturePants on Jun 16, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
91-93
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 16, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is that an increase?
I thought he had been working in that range pretty much since being drafted?
by FuturePants on Jun 16, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last season
he was closer to 89-91
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
Would the prospectophiles around here be happy if 91-93 was his velocity for the rest of his career?
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
i would be
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Works for me.
Any more than that would be a bonus.
FYI – First Inning lists his FIP after one start in AA as 1.13 and BaBIP at .421. I’m enjoying Beavan’s 2009 so far, lots of ground balls, keep the ball in the park, don’t walk anyone, K rate trending slowly upward, baseball pants slowly rising…
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No walks last night, either.
I’d be ok with 91 MPH.
by FuturePants on Jun 16, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Upon review
I meant FWIW, not FYI. But I thought that interesting given the thoughts last night here that his line would have looked much better if the defense behind him had been more effective.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it would have looked much better
if Diamond hadn’t given up that 2B.
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by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought he was topping out in the upper 80s last year
sitting in mid 80s
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes
From what I know of both of them, I’d say they are real similar. Good comp.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 16, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hopefully Omar can teach him a changeup
Hopefully Omar can teach everybody changeups
by Telegraph on Jun 16, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't like that lineup idea by EG
But then again I don’t like any lineup idea with this team. They are just flat out missing a couple of the types of hitters they really need.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 8:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
all this lineup discussion on here and throughout the media
just seems really superfluous to me. I don’t care how unorthodox or creative you get, a reshuffling of the lineup is not going to make this team-wide offensive slump end more quickly than it otherwise would
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 16, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why not?
a catalyst is a catalyst, if it works…if not, failure
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A catalyst is different though
reshuffling the lineup is merely moving a struggling player to another spot in the lineup while simultaneously replacing him with someone who is also struggling
when the entire team is slumping, there isnt much you can do
we just need to ride this out
the good news should be that since everyone is cold now they hopefully all get hot and we go on an absolute tear
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 1:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hope isn't really a plan, is it??
The idea behind shuffling things isn’t that it will fix some mechanical or systemic problem, but that it may just shake somebody out of pressing too much. Right now, it seems mental with some of them, like they can just try harder (read “Swing harder”) and fix the problem.
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by bking on Jun 16, 2009 1:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if Murphy is the only one consistently working counts now
why not try him at the leadoff spot? If Ian’s going to keep swinging for the fences, why not let him do it hitting 3rd or 5th? This isn’t a 1 week slump, or even 1 month…and without Hamilton’s threat, a shakeup is necessary.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it’s a catalyst if the desired effect is observed AND if the variable in question is the reason for that desired effect. i think you could reshuffle the lineup and if the team starts to improve offensively, people will point to it as a great managerial call that fixed a problem, when it just as easily could be coincidence.
the one argument ive heard that i could possibly buy is that their hitting woes are predominantly mental right now and that a lineup change alters a player’s attitude/mental state enough to pull them out of it. if that’s the case, it seems like there are other ways to alter a player’s mental state. it also seems like the altered mental state is a crapshoot that will be somewhat abritrary in how it affects different players. it may make some guys feel less presure and relax, it may have no change in some, it may make some guys feel more pressure and ingrain them further in the slump. i just dont see it as a very smart or scientific solution to what is a problem that regularly works itself both in and out during a baseball season.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 16, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well baseball isn't science
and not all facets of life aren’t proved in a lab room. some are actually proved to be quite the contrary of what an expected result would be.
I don’t think this is THE solution, but if the offense remains stagnant and we don’t trade for anybody or send somebody down/call somebody up in the next two weeks, and we’ve got Hamilton another month from returning, what the hell? why not, is what I’m asking?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i guess it just as much chance of helping as it does of hurting
the only real drawback would be the minimal cost of having, for the duration of the lineup change, a sub-optimal lineup (based on expected long-term production). but that would be offset by the spark this generates, assuming it generates one.
my feeling is that it’d be kind of a pointless move, irrelevant to the success of the lineup. i dont think it would alienate any players, but it still seems pointless. maybe wash has an astute psychological insight into his specific players and can figure out a way to play with the lineup to elicit just the right improvements. it’s something i doubt, but it could be possible. what’s not possible is all the clowns on the internet who have tossed out their own permutations of the perfect lineup having those same insights.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 16, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why in the name of god would you move the second baseman with the foruth best UZR anf 5th best UZR/150 in baseball
To DH? Nevermind that you’re doing it for a guy who’s like 80 years old, your only backup middle infielder, and not going to maintain his .358 BABIP if you give him more playing time?
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 8:28 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Geez, I fucked the title sentance up nicely.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 8:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for today.
I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 16, 2009 8:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just for a couple of days*
I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 16, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh.
Well, then it’s not completely batshit insane, it’s just kinda stupid.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they put
Vizquel in the field anywhere to start it should be at third to get the worst defensive third baseman in baseball off the field. It would be weird having Vizquel at third but i think more productive than what EG suggests.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 8:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep
I’d rather see Vizquel on the field for Young, but this is probably Wash’s way of resting Kinsler a bit to get him going.
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by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mean EG's way, right?
Although I admit, it does sound like something Wash would pull.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 8:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, assuming it would happen
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 8:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
Now that I could see, because Michael Young is heading toward inventing a new award: the Iron Glove.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Seriously
I looked at the numbers again yesterday and there is no reason for him to be playing a position in major league baseball. He is a DH and that is it. However, he doesnt hit well enough to be a DH. I am convinced that the Rangers will never win even a playoff series with Michael Young playing a position.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Well, I dunno about that… he has improved some since the start of the year, but his UZR’s still look terrible. So bad that he’s not even a full win above replacement level, now that his offensive production has started to drop back to it’s normal mediocrity.
I do think he must be allergic to dirt or something, because diving – really diving, not this half ass fall down to your knees on one hand shit – seems to be beyond his capability.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 8:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ha
Yeah of course im being a little melodramatic but this year he is on pace for his worst defensive year in his career. I just really think with this team really putting real emphasis on defense, he simply doesnt fit.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Greatness
I do think he must be allergic to dirt or something, because diving – really diving, not this half ass fall down to your knees on one hand shit – seems to be beyond his capability.
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by JTodd on Jun 16, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his glove is ok, it's his iron feet that are the problem IMO
by ncrangerfan on Jun 16, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
His reaction to balls is embarrasingly slow at times. See: all shots down the line vs. the Dodgers.
by FuturePants on Jun 16, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that would certainly be one way to insure that MY doesn't get better at third.
Anybody with significant baseball knowledge says it takes at least 100 games for a player to get comfortable at a new position, but I guess since the player involved is MY we can’t give him that cushion. We should just assume that there is no learning curve for MY and that he will never get any better. Lord knows, it’s not like he improved defensively while playing SS, right?
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no one expects him to be adrian beltre out there
but did anyone expect him to be nate mclouth at 3b?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Athos does have a point
He was absolutely abhorrent in UZR his first two years at short, but managed to improve to just being below average two out of his next three years there. I think we can hope for that at third base as well. Let’s just hope improving doesn’t take him two years this time.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im all for giving the guy some rope
but he has been beyond aweful so far
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is MY we're talking about.
If he had become Adrian Beltre at 3rd, it would still not be acceptable to some folks around here. For whatever reason, he seems to split Rangers fans into camps that appreciate how hard he works and how well he’s produced and those that would just as soon see him hit by a truck.
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, there is a medium
I appreciate his production throughout the years, but he had slow reaction deep in the hole at SS. I’m not upset w/ his 3B defense because it was expected. I also don’t expect improvement, just not quick enough. Not his skill set.
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by scoop16 on Jun 16, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After the bullshit he pulled this winter, can you blame the people who don't like him?
The guy had one super-awesome year in 2005 and one pretty good one in 2006. Since then however, he’s just been an average player who gets worshiped by the media and has gotten an insane contract and a massive head as a result.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The anti-Young vitriol appeared long before last Winter.
Frankly, since he signed that ridiculous contract, he’s been enemy number one around here. I didn’t like his attitude this Winter either, but I’m not so petty that I find some kind of sick satisfaction when he struggles making a defensive switch in the most advanced baseball league in the world. Others seem to.
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only pleasure I take in seeing him fail defensively is that it sticks in Josey Whales's craw
But like Michael Cave said, the reality is he’s just not a very good defensive player bottom line. Like I said above, I think he should improve at third too, but chances are probably never be particularly good there, as with SS.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wasn't he pretty damn perfect at 2B?
Bret Boone be damned…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree to a certain extent
and as I said this past winter, we need to hate the contract, not the player.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with that.
Most can’t seem to embrace such a notion, however. You need look no further than the comment above where MY’s being criticized for not diving in a sufficiently aesthetically pleasing manner. Hell, last season the big complaint was that he didn’t dive at all, and now that he does, he’s just not pretty enough.
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its not that he doesn't look good diving
Its that he never actually dives for the ball or if he is trying, he just really sucks.
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by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a joke
Really, his dives just look half-assed because the ball is usually already past him.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Disparage his defense
but I really just don’t see questioning his effort.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like I said, it's a joke
And I think we hear enough about how hard Michael Young works in the media to be able to joke about his lousy defense once in awhile.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his effort
do you think he chooses not to dive, or is incapable of doing so?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 16, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I understand your question
I was defending his effort. I think he tries hard to make the plays he can make.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my question
I don’t think he dives for balls and I think the reason is either that he chooses not to (lack of effort), or he is incapable of doing so (lack of talent).
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 16, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I vote for lack of ability, myself.
His reactions don’t seem to have caught up to the screamers down the line at third base yet.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, I think
he doesn’t see the point in diving after balls he’s pretty sure he has no chance to get to. His prickliness this winter is probably in partboth pride and defensiveness. Deep down he knows he’s not rangy and hates it. He takes great pride in how hard he works, and hates his own limitations.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Young
He’s a good player. He’s a good presence in the lineup, and while he’s not a good fielder, I don’t think he’s a psychological disaster out there either (some guys just make other people on the team nervous just by being on the field – that isn’t Young). He’s not a superstar, he’s probably the most overrated “Underrated player” in baseball. But he’s exactly the type of player who you can rely on when making long-term plans about the team. You know what you’re getting and that allows you to build around him. This team has failed in the past 6 years because of other guys they relied on failing miserably (e.g., Blalock). Not Michael Young.
Playoff teams have Michael Young’s on their club – in fact most of the contributors to playoff teams are Michael Youngs. They don’t have Luis Mendoza’s, Ben Broussard’s, and Doug Mathis’s. If you are going to be angry about players, those are the guys to rail against.
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by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very nicely stated, and I am in agreement
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by Chaim Witz on Jun 16, 2009 3:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First of all
I think have decent enough baseball knowledge.
At SS (UZR/150):
Young 04 -22.8
Young 05 -24.3 (pretty sure he was well past his “100 game adjustment”)
Young 06 -4.3
Young 07 -12.9
Young 08 -5.4
Young is just simply NOT a good defensive player. Plus he is making this change when he is older than what he was when he moved to SS. I guess the best way to look at this is to look at his UZR/150 at 100 defensive games and see whether it improves over the final 55-60 (assuming rest days, etc) defensive games that will still be left. I think he is a good hitter and probably always will.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for proving my point.
He improved dramatically his last three seasons at SS. Perhaps a smidgeon of patience would be in order here. Aging or not, Young has proven over and over again that he can work to get better at whatever he does.
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You mentioned the 100 game improvement
Do you think he played more than 100 games in 2004? If he did then he obviously was at 100 or more in 2005, correct? What in his career makes you think he can even become an average 3B?
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, he was almost average at SS ...
held back by poor range in a position where extended range was crucial. He’s now in a position that requires less range and good hands (an asset most agree Young has). Is there any evidence in his past that suggests he cannot be an average fielder at a less demanding defensive position?
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
almost average sucks
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I see what you did there.
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by Rodney on Jun 16, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think most of the lineup shakeup issues
come down to the fact that everyone is sucking now, and just try to break folks out of patterns. I wouldn’t count on many of them making sense on their face.
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by DJCahill on Jun 16, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Draft signings
I have searched and can’t find a place that is tracking which draft picks the Rangers signed besides Sierra. I know teams are signing the lower round picks to play on the short season and rookie teams as there was an article in the local weekend paper about the Angels signing over a dozen already. Anyone keeping track of this for the Rangers?
by Mark from OC on Jun 16, 2009 8:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
check here
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 8:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go Andrew Doyle!!
The Rangers need a good Sooner. lol
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by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A Doyle rules!
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by Brett Perryman on Jun 16, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
/Contributor
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 16, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was a Special Contributor for like three days, then demoted to just a generic Contributor. Oh well.
Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur
by Brett Perryman on Jun 16, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought that was the upgrade, as in
you’re no longer considered “special” and can ride the normal bus now.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol, should he be happy or sad?
I did notice the change though.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jun 16, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
look at andy's website too
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD chatting over at the DMN Blog today at 1:30
That should be interesting….
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by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Whoa...sweet
Thanks!
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by ortonius on Jun 16, 2009 8:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome
How many other GMs reach out to their diehards like JD does? Between DMN chats and Newberg Night, if you have a burning question for JD, there’s really no excuse that you don’t have a chance to ask it.
He does everything but post on LSB, and for all we know, maybe he does secretly. Maybe dirkatron is really JD incognito…
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by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be awesome.
Because Dirkatron is pretty much my favorite poster ever.
I mean I’m pretty sure JD’s cool, but I’m not sure he’s Dirka-cool. But if he was, it would be awesome.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I had to pick somebody off this board to be JD incognito, I'd have to say it would be t-ball.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It WOULD be the ultimate in sock puppetry...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 16, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Dirka-cool is another stratosphere of cool
T-ball is a good one. What about Josey Wales? What if that handle is just an elaborate scheme by JD to see his fans defend and praise him? That would be hilarious.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My lineup for tonight...
We need a shake-up:
1. SS Elvis Andrus
2. 2B Omar Vizquel
3. 3B Michael Young
4. LF Andruw Jones
5. RF Nelson Cruz
6. DH Ian Kinsler (quit FREAKING swinging for a HR every time…you are not Hank Blalock!)
7. CF Marlon Byrd
8. 1B Salty (another right-handed bat and he knows how to play 1B)
9. C Taylor Teagarden
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
by ortonius on Jun 16, 2009 8:56 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hank Blalock doesn't need to be swining for a HR every time, either.
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
by Aquaman56 on Jun 16, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Typos make for the most unintentionally hilarious humor sometimes.
I’ve heard Hank only “swines” on the road…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 16, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
WTF is that thing?
it isnt a lineup
it is closer to a random assortment of players than it is to a lineup
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's a nintendo lineup
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jun 16, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grant is terrible
Evan Grant is a idiot, dont believe anything he writes or says. Send Grant back to Georgia.
by Big Tex on Jun 16, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GTFO!
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
by ortonius on Jun 16, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
by ortonius on Jun 16, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Rec.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I don't understand what just happened...
all I see is a leaf
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I am...
leafy.
I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler
by ortonius on Jun 16, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahhh going with the Green theme
liberals
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I also don't understand...
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know,
“Make like a tree, and ____”
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 16, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
...get the fuck out
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Posnanski and Bill James talk more about Nolan's "philosophy"
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 9:22 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dirk
How about making this a fanpost?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Umm OK, I can do that I suppose
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it's up
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great exchange
That ought to be a must-read for the rest of the media before they attempt to analyze pitch counts or Nolan’s philosophy.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silver Boot time again
Go Rangers. Astros suck.
by sam in so cal on Jun 16, 2009 9:24 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The Silver Boot
Has to be one of the most the most meaningless, ill-attempted media attempts to create a rivalry ever.
That said, it’s always nice to know we can kick the shit out of the Astros. But not really any nicer than knowing we can kick the shit out of say… the Royals or something.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I love: Astros fans will talk noise if they win
But if they lose they brush it off as a meaningless trophy and fall back on the trusty, “YEAH, WELL WE WENT TO THE WORLD SERIES AND YOU DIDN’T!!!!!!”
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on every single point.
The Silver Boot essentially means nothing to me, but beating the Astros is always satisfying. If it just so happens to come with a metal shoe, so be it.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
I hereby propose that the silver boot trophy should be referred to as the metal shoe trophy from here on out.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
completely disagree
to me it’s like banging some skank that’s the sister of a guy you hate.
winning is good, but beating houston makes it that much better.
by sam in so cal on Jun 16, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My take as well
But i find that many here could care less about the astros…some even kind of like them
i, like you, absolutely hate the astros
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 1:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wait a second...
i hate HOUSTON
the astros are the skank in my example – you know, sister of the guy i hate
wiki: “clutch city” for explanation – that and a billion other reasons to hate houston come to mind
by sam in so cal on Jun 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You read?
I said, “I, like YOU”….
I was saying it seems most here dont despise the astros, i acknowledged that you and I share similar thoughts on the matter
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 5:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you read???
you said:
i, like you, absolutely hate the astros
i don’t hate the astros.
i hate HOUSTON
“beating” houston (the city) means more to me than beating the astros (the team).
by sam in so cal on Jun 16, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The city of Houston plays baseball?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by Chase Irwin on Jun 16, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
that’s why “beating” was in quotation marks
by sam in so cal on Jun 17, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When the rangers clinch the silver boot....
They should run on the field and dogpile like they won the world series….
That would be f’n funny.
by death of the cool on Jun 16, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup "shakeup" is nonsensical
These guys are slumping and pressing, changing the order is not a solution. Players go through ups and downs, sometimes they go through them at pretty much the same time. We are just a bunch of knee-jerking fans grasping at straws. Thank God the Rangers’ brass isn’t like us. I’m very happy they’ve given Davis lots of room to figure things out, they need to be evaluating him long term not rushing to fix everything right this minute.
If you want to make a change you need different personnel. Trading for a high OBP bat makes more sense than rearranging the deck chairs, but I’d hesitate to do even that unless the price was right. Given how aggressive the Rangers have been with their favorites I wouldn’t be surprised if Smoak was already up if he’d been healthy and raking all this time. A lot could happen in the next 6 weeks, both internally (Max, Smoak, Hamilton getting healthy, Davis going on a tear), and externally if they make deals.
The team is not going to slump like this all season. We need to be patient.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Managers make lineup changes all the time
It’s a common thing to do when players/teams are slumping. I don’t understand the resistance, it’s not like switching around the lineup is ground-breaking new strategy that geeky, basement-living fans are calling for, it is pretty much standard practice around baseball.
The lineup isn’t scoring right now, why not try to fix something that is broke?
And if you think lineup order is meaningless, then it won’t help to switch things up, but it also won’t hurt, so what’s the big deal?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 16, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, I'm fine
with a game or two with some changes, but I think people here are vastly overrating the benefits of such an exercise. It won’t help nearly as much as swinging less often at pitches out of the strike zone.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeesh.
The human element of baseball is virtually meaningless. It is only a trifling part of the game in that the players have to be real people for some odd reason, but we all know that the games are really decided by computers using nothing but raw numbers. Slumps are merely statistical anomalies having nothing to do with psyche or anything else remotely human.
At least, that’s what I’ve been hearing lately.
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't remember anyone around here saying that.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because it's pointless
Doing pointless things is pointless
by Telegraph on Jun 16, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wonder what it would take to get bradley back from the cubs?
i keed i keed lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
'cause it's 1, 2,
THREE outs, you’re done!
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 16, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is the type of hitter this team is missing....
Not that we should get Bradley….but we need to replace someone on our team thats a hacker (my pick is Hank) with somebody with a high OBP.
by death of the cool on Jun 16, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Josh Willingham
Since he’s under control for a couple more years. But I’d certainly take Nick.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am terrible at formulating trade value
What would it take to get Johnson or Willingham?
Also, they probably wouldn’t be traded until near the deadline. By that time Hamilton will be back and the offense could be it’’s normal self. Under that scenario, I don’ tthink JD woul smake a trade for a bat.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really have no idea
Ideally I would hope it would be something like Kiker + Tim Murphy and maybe somebody like Arias or Duran (I’d even be willing to do Lemon or Vallejo, in Willingham’s case) for Willingham, and the same kind of deal with maybe a Melo-type instead of a Tim Murphy type for Johnson.
Chances are that’s probably a bit low though. But I’d be willing to go higher.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i think
it will be higher because this is the type of guy where there could be a mini bidding war. Im thinking Kiker, Lemon/Vallejo and another c level prospect.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather have Johnson
for the specific reason that he’d only be around for a year. He’s a very good hitter but not someone to rely on long-term. Fortunately, long-term the team has Davis and Smoak to fill the 1b and DH roles.
I think this team makes more sense when thinking about 2010 and 2011. The odd thing is that the 2009 team has a chance here. Nick Johnson is the perfect type of short term solution who will be cheaper (short term is typically much cheaper) and doesn’t leave the team saddled with a guy who they may not want around when the kids are available next year
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is fine
But you have to make sure that you dont give up much for him
this team will not win the WS this year w/Nick Johnson
with that in mind, do you trade a player away that could actually help you win a WS in x years and would subsequently be around for 6+ years
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 1:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
but you have to be realistic about “help you win a WS in x years and …”
People get too wrapped up in the upside of prospects without accounting for the risk. Obviously you don’t trade Smoak or Feliz for Johnson. But what about someone like Main? Yeah, Main MAY help you win a WS 6 years from now. He may also never get past AAA. Or a Marcus Lemon? Lemon may be a major league regular one day. Or maybe not.
If you think that Nick Johnson raises your playoff probabilities for 2009 from 40% to 60%, then you definitely trade a Michael Main (who probably raises our projected 2011 playoff probs from 30% to 31% right now) for him.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And what inevitably occurs is that Johnson will come in and get hurt or be mediocre and a couple of years from now we’ll have to constantly hear what a stupid trade it was because Main is pitching lights out for Washington. This is exactly the kind of short-sighted move that comes back to haunt you.
And there is no way that Nick Johnson raises this team’s chance of getting to the playoffs by 50% above wherever it currently sits.
If the bats come back, they have a great shot at making the playoffs. Let’s keep our talent in place and take our chances on our hitters producing like they ought to.
by Athos on Jun 16, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmm...
This post seems far too risk averse for my tastes. To dismiss any and all moves out of hand is just being paralyzed.
And what inevitably occurs is that Johnson will come in and get hurt or be mediocre
Not making a deal because you’re afraid a guy may be hurt is fine. Obviously you need to factor in any guy’s health when trading for him. But just assuming that anyone you acquire will be injured is defeatist. Of course that isn’t the case. Just because the Rangers have had bad luck in the past doesn’t mean all mid-season acquisitions are doomed to failure.
and a couple of years from now we’ll have to constantly hear what a stupid trade it was because Main is pitching lights out for Washington. This is exactly the kind of short-sighted move that comes back to haunt you.
So we’re never supposed to trade anyone since Josey and hurlerhurley will whine about how good they may be in another uniform? Please. The reality of baseball is that sometimes you trade or release guys who turn out to actually be good. Amazingly, the Rangers aren’t the only team this happens to (see Santana, Johan). Sometimes you trade for guys or pick up guys off the scrap heap who turn out great too. The second that JD doesn’t make a move because he’s afraid that “we’ll have to constantly hear what a stupid trade it was because XXX is pitching lights out,” I want a new GM.
And there is no way that Nick Johnson raises this team’s chance of getting to the playoffs by 50% above wherever it currently sits.
If the bats come back, they have a great shot at making the playoffs. Let’s keep our talent in place and take our chances on our hitters producing like they ought to.
In my opinion, there are tipping points with teams where acquiring a piece in an area that could use big improvement can make a big impact on a club. Now, Nick Johnson may not be that guy. And June may be too early to say that such a move will significantly increase your postseason potential. But there very easily good be someone who increases this team’s playoff chances considerably, and I’ll trade someone who may or may not be a contributor many years down the line in a heartbeat. I’m not talking about trading the future. I’m talking about trading one or two guys from our organizational strength. For the playoffs.
My guess is that you think this team already has something like a 60% chance of reaching the playoffs right now (that being the odds that the team starts hitting like they could and the pitching/fielding holds up enough). That’s fair – reasonable people can disagree about that. I think the offense is fundamentally flawed without an OBP guy, and would say that the odds this teams offense rebounds well will be greatly impacted by having one.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure it's about risk.
An old baseball theorem implies that it takes about six of your nine in the batting order (five in the NL) producing at league average levels or better to produce a winning season record. Further, that the randomness of any six guys in your lineup hitting at the same time leads to close games independent of what the opposition is doing. And similarly, that same randomness can lead to fewer than three of your six average or better hitters producing in a given game. Obviously it’s nor pure randomness, but is also affected by the quality (and matchups) of pitching against you on a given day, and by in games situational play including defensive anomalies (HR robbed, great DP or breaking one up, etc).
General observation: the Rangers lineup usually has four avg or better hitters: Hamilton, Kinsler, Cruz, Young. Murphy, Davis, Blalock, Byrd can produce in an bat or for a game. But the net, net until for instance Smoak joins the mix, is slightly below the profile for a team to consistently produce sufficient runs to assure winning. Thus the focus on run prevention e.g. defensive improvement.
Specific: Adding one high OBP guy helps, but not enough to lay aside the strategy of preventing runs in order to win. Further, Johnson (if the Nats move him) is more likely headed to the Mets than the Rangers.
Take: Get more AB’s for Brandon Boggs, platoon with Murphy or use him at DH and even the occasional CF fill in. He’s not a premium hitter, but helps of defense and should help add one good OPB slot to the order. With Hamilton out, adjusting things is pretty inconsequential.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson (if the Nats move him) is more likely headed to the Mets than the Rangers
And not because of the quality of prospects we could offer in return.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Injury Prone Players tend to get injured"
-Bob Gainey
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one should be concerned about trading one of our MIF prospects
If we could get Johnson for someone like Lemon or Vallejo as the main part of the deal, no reason not to pull the trigger.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
no doubt about that
But Id be very hesitant to include a high upside pitcher like Main or Kiker
Ive become attached to our prospects and for once in Rangers history id like to see that plan work out and have a rotation full of young guys who have great arms
it just baffles me that so many here want to abandon that plan at the first chance and pull an atlanta and give another team 4 big time future players
they sit here and mock Atlanta for that deal but then they say lets trade Main, Kiker, Smoak, and some other really young guy for a pitcher….ughhhhhh
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke
It sounds optimistic, but then this…
All the predraft speculation about what Purke wants is accurate – Rick Porcello money.
I hope JD sheds light on this in the chat today.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
where did that come from?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Wilson article AJM linked.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not worried.
I really think he wants to be a Ranger, and I don’t think the Rangers would have drafted him if they didn’t think they had a really good shot at signing him.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 16, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
After they brought him in for a look see. They knew what it would take to sign him. This deal along with Scheppers gets done.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke
He may get done, but I bet it’s closer to Porcello’s figure than people believe right now.
I’m going to guess it doesn’t include a ML deal, but then there’s Nolan’s quote specifically saying Purke would probably get through the minors fast.
Sigh.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why sigh?
If the kid can pitch why not push him?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agree
If Purke pulls a Porcello, he’s in the 2011 rotation. I’ll take that.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pure speculation.
Sigh because Nolan’s quote sounds a little like it’s okay to give Purke a roster deal.
I agree, just as soon as he can advance, promote him.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I understand
I will say this. This is the most excited I’ve ever been about our minor league system. We have tremendous arms scattered through out. For the first time in ever there is light at the end of the tunnel. JD and Nolan are building a power house that will contend for years. IMO
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what the funny thing is?
We have so many more pitching prospects than hitting prospects IMO. I really think that JD is going by the premise that if he ever needs a bat he can just deal a pitching prospect or two for one.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And bats are generally
easier to predict what you are getting.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's an extremely good point
We have more legitimate pitching prospects than we have rotation spots in our farm system. Thus, we can afford to deal a few of them away. Package a couple of legit pitching prospects and imagine what kind of near-MLB ready bat you can get in return.
The Rangers have made a habit of trading away pitching prospects to acquire hitters throughout their history. But now, it’s actually a very smart MO.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you rather hear something like...
“It will take 1000 ABs or so to retool his swing..”.
When I hear quotes likes Nolan’s, I just hear it as pumping up the pick for PR purposes.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 16, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eek
we’re already crowded on the 40 man roster arent we?
by Horns130 on Jun 16, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think we're that crowded
but that’s based mostly on a few guys like Guardado and Mathis.
Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur
by Brett Perryman on Jun 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ran down the list of candidates to remove and those who might be added last week
It’s tight, but not totally unworkable, and a lot of it depends on how the club views guys like Castillo, Pina, etc.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
I’m not a fan of being loose and reckless with interesting arms, but we should probably keep in mind what we’ve seen in recent drafts. Lots of good A-ball arms were available this last year, some were picked, and I believe all were returned. And Fabio isn’t even as advanced as some like Nova were. Nova started this year in AA for NY, and Castillo will be in High A to start next year.
Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur
by Brett Perryman on Jun 16, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We may be fine after THIS year
But we are gonna have to make some tough decisions in the upcoming years and having a guy like Purke on the 40 could cause us to lose a serious talent
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 16, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question of the day:
If you could sign only one of Purke and Scheppers, which one would it be? And why?
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think I'd want Purke, myself.
With Scheppers injury history it seems like he might be more of a risk factor to me, I dunno.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd sign both.
There would not be a scenario I would allow that would force me to choose. They are individual negotiations, and if the Rangers were somehow in a financial situation so dire they couldn’t sign both, they wouldn’t have drafted both, and/or they’d have to hold a fire sale of the current ML roster.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
This is just a hypothetical though, to get a feeling for who folks like better.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke
Younger, lefty and no injury history.
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd probably say Purke
if pressed, and I’d guess most teams feel the same way since they let him drop to the Rangers at 44. But I just don’t think the Rangers would have pulled the trigger if they didn’t have every intention of signing both. That talk of intentionally not signing was ridiculous. I simply cannot imagine the Rangers operating that way.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why it's a hypothetical question...
by cmkelly29 on Jun 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I realize that
but I’m not a fan of hypos that begin “you can only have one” in draft cases. That works well in trade discussions because if the Rangers make one big deal the likelihood of another is greatly diminished. But signing one draft pick does not have nearly the same effect, even a first rounder.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly.
I want the blonde AND the brunette.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 16, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Personally, I kinda want the blonde who's a little curious about the brunette....
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 16, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Personally
I want the blonde, a couple brunettes, a red head, a few ravens…
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm 48... two may be all I can handle...
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 16, 2009 3:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, there's always tomorrow.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Verrrryyyyy good point..
I may have to revise my goals a bit..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 16, 2009 3:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't answer, I'm not prepared to have this conversation with myself
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cant answer
only because i have no access to scheppers medical records
if it came down to it? scheppers (second best arm in the draft)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think both
get to Arlington quick. IMO
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im not so sure on purke
read that there needs to be a pretty good re-working of his mechanics (some compared it to beavan) — anyone know for sure?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have not heard that
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heard he needs some touching up...
But nothing near the “from-the-ground-up” rebuilding Beavan had to go through…
by N41D on Jun 16, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good to hear
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not what i remember
So… what are you saying?
Overall, Purke’s mechanics could be a lot worse. That said, I’m not a fan of his arm action at all. The slinging action reported by Baseball America is clearly present, and he puts a lot of torque on his elbow. Long term, he has almost no chance to stay healthy with these mechanics.
Any team that drafts Purke will have to ask themselves which risk they want to take: leave his mechanics alone and risk his arm falling apart – or – change his mechanics and risk his stuff dropping off.
Mechanics
Some positives and negatives with Purke mechanically….his arm action is very loose and whip-like — very tension free. He breaks his hands late, which speeds up his arm as it tries to catch up with the rest of his body. A late hand break can benefit a pitcher’s velocity and make it tougher to pick up the ball out of his hand.
The tradeoff to that deception and extra arm speed is that it might add a little more stress to the shoulder. In addition, Purke doesn’t incorporate his lower body all that much into his delivery, forcing his arm to do much of the work. Pitchers who have a busier lower body also tend to have their breaking stuff play-up because hitters react to that lower body movement and gear up for something hard.
With that said, Purke’s delivery is simple and repeatable. He also has sound front-side mechanics that will help limit the pounding his shoulder takes.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Purke
is not going to get to Arlington “quickly”. He just graduated from high school and we shouldn’t expect him until about 2013 or so. He could get here sooner, maybe sometime in 2012, but I don’t know why you’d expect it. Beavan was drafted in 2007 and is already in AA. If Purke makes it to AA by mid-2011, that’s pretty quick.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking 2012 as quick
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, nevermind.
Carry on.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
I should have said it in the original post.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup, anything less than 4 years for a HS kid is considered quick
that said i read reports of people saying that Purke could pull a porcello and be up in less than 3 and it wouldnt be crazy. so who knows.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
less than 3 isn't a Porcello
it was 1, wasn’t it? THAT is ridic
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he was less than 2
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2009 5:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers if I had a gun to my head and was told only 1
he’s closer, just as highly respected, and costs a hell of a lot less
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Plus, his shoulder injury is hopefully behind him..
Whereas some pundits seem to think Purke’s is still in his future. That delivery scares me a bit too.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 16, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers
Does Scheppers fall under the August 15th deadline like most players or can we do like Seattle did with Fields last year and wait until March or so to sign him? It would probably help the budget alot. Plus if we sign him August 15th is he really gonna get much work that he wouldn’t get if we waited until March.
I say if we can wait and sign him before spring training next year and then start him in Frisco.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 16, 2009 10:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he falls under the deadline.
And MLB has extended the deadline to the 17th this year because the 15th falls on a Saturday.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No deadlines on the sabbath?
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud doesn't work weekends.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bud never works
Or atleast his mind doesn’t.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty difficult for his mind to work weekends
When he’s been braindead since ’94
by TRanger on Jun 16, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably more difficult
for MLB to verify/ratify/whatevertheydo the contracts on a Saturday night. I wish instead that they had moved the deadline the other way and made if Friday, the 14th.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shomer fuckin' Shabbas
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I heard you dont roll on Shabbas
A Cowboy fan from Dallas residing in enemy terretory since 1990..
by Jtiner09 on Jun 16, 2009 1:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
are you sure he falls under the deadline
even though hes pitching in an indy league?
IIRC the deal with fields was he was a college senior so thats why he wasnt eligible, but does that only apply to college seniors?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck the M's, Fuck the M's.
BenBadler Latest word from several ppl on Guillermo Pimentel is he’s been “on lockdown” in #Mariners academy. Rangers can’t be pleased
I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't tell me we're gonna lose our big latin signing to another ALW team for the second year in a row.
Maybe this was what TR was talking about in his mailbag.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That does sting a little but
As long as Jakari Profer is still in the fold I’m good.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 16, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
two Jabari's and a Jakari?
I like the future…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this makes me angry.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could lament this disastrous turn of events, or I could find a silver lining
It’ll make life easier on Nolan trying to tell his prospects apart. He put the names on the jerseys in spring training for a reason. Now, when there’s two outfielders with “G Pimentel” on their backs, what the heck is is supposed to do?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you settle for a...
silver boot?
by sam in so cal on Jun 16, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting opportunity possibly missed?
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9688414/Red-Sox-reliever-drawing-interest-from-several-teams
Blalock for Saito?
Isn’t Saito commanding like 2mm this year, or something really low due to his injury history?
I’m of the mind that I wish we had done this and had just gone with AJ in the DH slot — if this is a legitimate missed trade.
I would assume there was a prospect sweetener requirement on the Ranger’s side of it, otherwise it probably would have been done.
by Trickman on Jun 16, 2009 10:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i dont know if everyone thinks his arm holds up for the long haul
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
btw long haul=this year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For Blalock?
Sure, why not. Anything else though, probably not.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly.
Blalock isn’t exactly carrying the offense, and swapping him out (1 for 1) for a potentially strong right-handed bullpen option would seem like a steal to me, injury issues aside since that bug is on both ends.
No more Blalock or Davis issues.
Swap Jones in for Blalock and — at worst it would seem — get an equivalent level of production at DH, but with some potential outfield defensive value.
Allows you to dump one of the weaker bullpen options back to AAA for refining (Madrigal? Moscoso?).
by Trickman on Jun 16, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do the Red Sox need Blalock for?
They already have a DH that can’t hit, they actually have a thirdbaseman that can play the position and a firstbaseman that’s better than Hank in every way. The only thing they can really use is a SS. Omar for Saito maybe.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jun 16, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This sucks
Nats’ Johnson on Rangers’ radar
…
Club officials have discussed making a run at Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson, sources say. Such a move, however, appears unlikely.
If the Rangers replace Chris Davis — who leads the majors with 92 strikeouts and owns the lowest OPS of any regular first baseman — they are more likely to choose an internal solution.
BOOOOOOOOO.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't see the Rangers
taking on ANY salary at all. Even $1. If JD could have moved Blalock and his salary he would have done so by now. As it is now, he has no trade value. Looks like Hank is the internal option mentioned.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the sad thing here is
that if they added say a RP for the rest of this year that they owed 2 mil to and he helped them make the playoffs - guarantee they would make more than the 2 mil he is owed…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considerable talk among network people
ESPN PTI and others – The Mets are in on, and maybe frontrunners, if the Nats do move Johnson. I don’t know what the Mets might offer
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 16, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be a heck of a pickup for the Mets
I know Bobby Parnell’s name was thrown around before the Putz injury.
by tyd3311 on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Considerable talk among network people
If they say the Mets are the frontrunners, it really means that the Mets are the front runners of the Cubs, Red Sox, Yankees, and Mets.
I’m pretty sure ESPN doesn’t know anything.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh well there is truth in that
Didn’t consider their POV to include “among whom”
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 16, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Internal options?
Think they are contemplating bringing up smoak?
by Michael Cave on Jun 16, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not this soon
after ASB maybe if hes lighting it up and davis is still doing this
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i read the above to mean:
they arent gonna bail on chris beforre the all star break, but if he isnt contributing by mid july, heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeere’s Smoak!!!
not necessarily whats gonna happen next week, besides, i think sticking with the guys that got us here when they are all so generally young might be a good thing to do for now as far as building a team and its continuity. If we are still around early to mid July, it gets interesting.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure hope not.
I want to see him at least mash in OKC like Davis did first.
I’d rather see them call Max up to play first before Smoak, and that probably wouldn’t be too good for the defense.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It wouldn't be too good for the offense
the way Max is hitting in AAA.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 16, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's looked good since coming off the DL though
SSS and all that, but hey, it’s something.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 16, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No he hasn't
hes hitting like 230 in his last 10 without a HR
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 16, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i think he has gotten a couple multi hit games goin this last week, iirc
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 16, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since he came of the DL
.292/.320/.375 if my ciphering is correct. That covers 25 PAs. One of his two doubles was reportedly “lost” by the OFers. Still not very good and I wonder if his wrist if completely healthy?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 16, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreland?
Max-Ram?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 16, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The big question is...
how long would it be before Nick hits the DL? He’s never really had a full, healthy season.
by Redcaps on Jun 16, 2009 3:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
YOWZA.
Man, that’s pretty classic Artie Lange, but methinks Joe Buck won’t have him back on his show anytime soon.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 16, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Artie is the greatest
Joe Buck is a douchenozzle.
by brettgardner on Jun 16, 2009 9:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wtf is joe buck live
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
new HBO show i believe
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah I see that after googling it
looks like an absolutely awful idea.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 16, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lange
I love it when people like Artie Lange show up, pretty much wherever.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD chat rolling...
Get in there:
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/06/live-chat-with-rangers-gm-jon-daniels.html
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 1:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
JD visits LSB
Who knew!
2:47 [Comment From Josey]
Do you ever visit sites similar to LoneStarBall? If so, have you ever engaged in conversation there? Would you ever discuss Ranger’s items there?
2:48 Jon Daniels: Yes I visit there occassionally. No I haven’t gotten involved other than reading some of the entries, but yes I’d participate if asked.
Take the man up on his offer, Adam…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 16, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was neat.
And my thanks message was just as he closed the chat…dang.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 16, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so i want to know who actually asked this question
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 16, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's an open invitation to have JD come in and try to calm us down
until we convince him the sky is falling
it would make for great drama
by texasraider on Jun 16, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it might have the opposite of the intended effect
Shortly after talking to us, JD will be running around TBiA frantically switching around lineups, while he’s got Thad on the phone to the Nats desperately trying to work a deal for Nick Johnson.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and
he’d be posting pics of Medusa and the double play dino in the locker room and front office for luck.
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by t ball on Jun 16, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
REC
That’s a funny thought. Triple Play Triceratops on JD’s door.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
by LBBRangerFan on Jun 16, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be outstanding
JD could tape a picture of Medusa on Davis’ locker and make him stare at it until he learns to lay off bad pitches.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 16, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More likely
He’d turn into Bill Stoneman and be terrified to trade anyone from this organization again
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
