Sosa tested positive in 2003

I forget. Would this mean Sammy perjured himself?

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 16, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

according to the article, yes.

by jcAustin on Jun 16, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

possibly

I guess there could be a blur between “illegal performance-enhancing drugs” and what MLB was testing for. If the drug was something that players were not allowed to take yet was legal in the US (heck, or even legal in the Domincan where Sosa was taking it), then he may not have perjured himself.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 3:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

no

he never said he didn’t do steroids to congress.

usa

by Longhorn on Jun 16, 2009 6:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he said

he didn’t speak english right?

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The money quote from the ESPN article about it

“I will calmly wait for my induction to the Baseball Hall of Fame. Don’t I have the numbers to be inducted?”

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 16, 2009 3:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

oh man

juan gon
raffy
pudge
sosa
arod
ken camenitti
jose canseco

who am i missing?
gary matthews jr?

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Also

Velarde

Wow…you have an entire starting lineup out of that.

by TRO_GT on Jun 16, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

yeah

pudge c
raffy 1b
valarde 2b/3b/ss
caminiti 3b
arod ss/3b
sosa dh
canseco rf/lf/p
igor lf
gmj cf

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

The p after Canseco's name

made me spit my drink out on the monitor.

by Oddibee on Jun 16, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i guess a more

workable lineup would be to have sosa play rf and move canseco as P/DH right?

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

You need a pitcher to complete the lineup...

How about this douche?:

When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"

by Section 339 on Jun 16, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

he's not a former ranger

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Well he came close enough plenty of times

Well not really close so much as using the Rangers for leverage, but that’s just as good.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 16, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

if only they would

have traded rusty greer (or was that a rumor?)

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

KEVIN BROWN

by oc on Jun 16, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I think we would be overlooking a few others....

….most notably “El Caballo” himself. I don’t think there is any doubt on that one, even though it made him a worse ballplayer while becoming more of a body-builder who could no longer move or swing fluidly.

There are others I would suspect

I miss 1989. I miss 1996. Please make me miss another season in 2008.

by Chaim Witz on Jun 16, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

What's the damning evidence for Pudge?

I don’t recall any direct evidence similar to Juan, Raffy, Sosa, Arod, Ken, Canseco or GMJ. Not that I don’t think Pudge took PEDs, but I don’t recall any evidence beyond his incredible shrinking job.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 16, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Not damning, but

Canseco mentions him in one of his books.

by jcAustin on Jun 16, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

we just assume

i know he’s innocent until proven guilty, but eh…consider him like a prisoner at Guantanamo.

Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."

by gossamer on Jun 16, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Exactly - Canseco

Not exactly the same evidence as the rest (positive tests, being found with them or admitting to taking them). Probably shouldn’t lump Pudge in.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 16, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Canseco

Going strictly from memory here, but I believe most (maybe all?) of the players named by Canseco have been spot on. Have there been any accusations in the Canseco book that have proved to be false? I think the guy is a douche, but I also think he was telling the truth.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on Jun 16, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Canseco

has proven to be strangely accurate with his steroid accusations. Lately it seems like he’s just throwing shit at the wall to see what sticks… but with most of his early accusations, he was actually there. It wouldn’t shock me one bit to learn that Pudge was right in the middle of it, but it doesn’t change my opinion of him one bit.

by bhudson on Jun 16, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs