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Wednesday a.m. Rangers things

Texas Rangers second baseman Ian Kinsler rounds the bases after hitting a home run off of Houston Astros starting pitcher Wandy Rodriguez in the bottom of the second inning of a baseball game in Arlington, Texas, Tuesday, June 16, 2009. (AP Photo/Tom Pennington)

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5 months ago: Texas Rangers second baseman Ian Kinsler rounds the bases after hitting a home run off of Houston Astros starting pitcher Wandy Rodriguez in the bottom of the second inning of a baseball game in Arlington, Texas, Tuesday, June 16, 2009. (AP Photo/Tom Pennington)

Nice to see Ian Kinsler with a big game yesterday.  And nice to see a win, particularly after Sunday's flat, ugly loss.

Evan Grant has some quotes from Ian Kinsler, where Kinsler says his problem was that he was looking for off-speed pitches, with the result being that he was getting beat by fastballs and was yanking off-speed pitches foul.  Kinsler says he adjusted his approach yesterday, and the result was a 3-4, 2 homer, 1 walk game.

Jeff Wilson notes that Kevin Millwood overcame a sluggish first inning to win his third straight start, with the only run he allowed coming on a solo homer by Pudge Rodriguez.

Wilson also has some injury updatesJosh Hamilton played catch yesterday, his first baseball activity since undergoing surgery.  Frankie Francisco said, after throwing yesterday, that his shoulder was "money," and he's supposed to have a rehab stint at Oklahoma City on Thursday.  If all goes well, he presumably will be activated on Friday, when he's eligible to return.  Dustin Nippert starts a rehab assignment with Frisco on Thursday, and Willie Eyre goes on rehab with Oklahoma City on Friday.

Kevin Sherrington has a column about about the chain-of-command issues that it seems every one of the D/FW pro teams has, with the part talking about the Rangers focusing on Ron Washington's lack of control over his coaching staff, and in particular, the conflict between Washington's desire to have his hitters be patient and work the count, and hitting coach Rudy Jaramillo's more aggressive philosophy.

And Houston businessman Don Sanders, who has been mentioned as a possible financial backer for Nolan Ryan, should Ryan seek to buy the Rangers from Tom Hicks, says that investing in the Rangers is a "long shot" for him.

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Nice to see Josh having a catch.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jun 17, 2009 8:11 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Those words bring tears to my eyes every time.

“Have a catch.”

sniff, sniff.

She say she are the manager.

by rockin_rangers on Jun 17, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Must be the red jersey's again!

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 8:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

NOTE TO ADAM:

I am passing this around to all the collumnists this morning, lets all generate some info and anwsers to this still-unanwsered question…

**Neftali Feliz main issues of concern coming into this year (In terms of being ready for the big leagues) were his inability to hold runners, his pickoff throw, and his changing arm slot on off speed pitches which gave the hitter an advantage… How has he progressed with these items, and are there any other issues that the team is looking to help him improve before he hits the big time?

This is our year.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c

by PM Productions on Jun 17, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I thought he didn't throw enough strikes

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think 100% of pitchers

have that issue at one time or another… Major or minor league

This is our year.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c

by PM Productions on Jun 17, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at one time or another?

how about most of the time…i want rangers pitchers to throw for 7 innings and throw 80 pitches, and 80 strikes heh

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 8:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was deep

This is our year.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c

by PM Productions on Jun 17, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look Who's Talking, Too?

I love Bruce Willis as a baby’s voice

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feliz

These problems are why I didnt really get the reasoning behind moving him to AAA this year.
He’s an awesome talent but why not let him work on offspeed pitches, mechanics and holding runners at the AA level

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why does it matter that much?

AAA hitters are just going to challenge him more and not let him get away with as much.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well...

I say let him work and gain success and develop on hitters of perhaps a lesser quality first…THEN move up to better competition.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was learning nothing at AA anymore..

The hitters there were so overmatched that he could basically go “all fastballs all the time” and dominate. No so at AAA.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fastballs

Or perhaps the coaches could tell him to stop throwing fastballs so much and work on offspeed stuff.
They did the opposite with poveda this year and told him less changeups.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that said

do you want him to lose confidence?

IIRC the mariners didnt even let king felix throw his slider in the minors, even though it was probably his best pitch, because of a developmental (didnt want him to get hurt + learn to throw other pitches) standpoint

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Confidence

Losing confidence is why I’d rather he work on side skills in AA than AAA.
Not saying it’s going to happen, but it seems like it would make more sense.

I dont see how telling a guy to throw more of a certain pitch would make him lose confidence any more than having him work on skills vs more advanced players

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just a guess..

but perhaps he was falling back on his fastball way too often in AA instead of fighting through with his secondary stuff. Rather than get into a “situation” with him either not listening or not getting it, they are letting AAA hitters explain it to him in clear terms. If he can’t deal with the challenge (and it’s not like he’s getting his ass kicked totally), then maybe he’s not mature enough yet.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont get me wrong

Im not saying hes getting knocked around horribly or his ass should be sent to AA. I found the assignment a little shocking when it was announced in the spring and thought going into the season they’d let him at least start the season in frisco.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I saw Feliz in spring training v major league hitters as a reliever.

When he brings it, OMG. It’s as fast as any pitcher throwing I can ever remember and I saw Nolan in the mid 70’s.

He just couldn’t throw enough strikes and the big league hitters wouldn’t swing.

He had to dial it down and when he did that, he got lit up.

I haven’t seen him pitch in the minors but he looked like a pitcher who needed a much better harness on his fastball.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Faster than James Rodney

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saw JR Richard on television

but never live. He was filthy.

Gossage was also really nasty in the late 70s.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JR would be a time machine pick for me.

Such a shame.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may not believe it

but Frank Tanana used to be an absolute flame-thrower before he got hurt.

They didn’t flash the mph at old Arlington Stadium (what a bleeping dump that place was) so you had to guess how hard somebody was throwing.

Eckersley in the 70’s seemed like he was throwing hard by the way batters reacted to him but it may have been his ability to use deception. Same with Guidry.

Fergie used to pile up the K’s as well but his delivery was sooooo smooth and efficient that he looked effortless when he threw the ball.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ive read that somewhere

per wikipedia:

He was given the nickname “Frank Tanana Daiquiri” by broadcaster Chris Berman of ESPN.

remind me why no one shut chris berman up years ago…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

John

“Tonight let it be” Lowenstein.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh Heh

The Lowenstein one always made me laugh

by BEW on Jun 17, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlos

“Del Got it” Delgado.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by Chase Irwin on Jun 17, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bobby Jenks

I know he doesn’t throw as hard now, but I remember seeing him in spring training back in 2003 against the Royals- he was throwing upper 90s and looked like he was soft-tossing the ball.

I do remember Tanana throwing very hard when he first came up.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Tanana & Ryan

and two days of cryin" was the mantra of the 70’s Angels.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Old Man

tells me Ryne Duren was the guy to watch back in the day. Old Yankee reliever threw a 100 but couldn’t hit the side of a barn.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thought of another one

that threw as hard as anybody I ever saw.

The Great Emu – Jim Kern.

He was awesome with the Indians but that first half of the ’79 season with the Rangers was one of the best stretches of relief pitching I ever saw.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 Redlegs -

Brad ‘The Animal’ Leslie & Rob Dibble

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't remember Leslie

but saw Dibble on television. He was salty.

He was / is just about the biggest idiot I’ve ever heard or seen when talking all things Great Game and when he lost his fastball he was too stupid to make an adjustment.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My dad used to go to

a lot of Cards games back in the 60s. He swears that no one throws harder than Bob gibson. He also said that Gibson was the most intimidating pitcher of all time.

by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would have paid money to see someone like randy johnson

throw from that high mound gibson got

totally OT, i know but it would have been very ineteresting

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Johnson

…would’ve struck out 27.

by Black Francis on Jun 17, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i cant even imagine

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLBTV has been showing

a Costas sit-down w/ Gibson & McCarver. Good stories. When McCarver went to the mound, Gibson said, “What are you doing out here? The only thing you know about pitching is you can’t hit it.”

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I didn't see Gibson live

but did see him on television. By then, he’d pretty much had it (early 70’s).

I’ve heard how intimidating he supposedly was but he was black guy who was realy focused, kind of in a Dave Stewart type of way.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah i really enjoy hearing

my dad tell stories about Gibson. Since i am 26 i never saw him of course but he is one of my favorites because of my dad. I just like the story about how when a guy dug in everyone (including the fans) knew where the next pitch was going.

by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True

and also a fierce competitor when he was batting

by BEW on Jun 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats one of the better nicknames in the history of baseball btw

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jim Kern

’79 was my second season to follow the Rangers, and eight-year-old me thought Kern was very cool.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That was also Buddy Bell's first year

with the Rangers and probably his best. Just a magnificent player.

Kern was spectacular and that was also the year Sparky Lyle was acquired (for Righetti). We had Fergie, maybe Doyle Alexander and maybe a little Matlack (may have been hurt) on the staff. Those ‘79 starters are deep in the cobwebs of my mind and I’m not sure who we had.

Al Oliver was also a good player and I also loved me some Oscar Gamble (who ended being dealt for Mickey Rivers in a front office paperwork snafu).

I wanna say we also had Willie Montanez kicking around that team late and maybe Eric Soderholm?

I don’t know why that team fell on it’s ass so hard. They broke the gate 52-38, hit a 10-33 skid that nearly drove me over a cliff and then finished strong in September (21-8).

Just a crazy freaking team.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AO only 'good' :)

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

AO

threw a shit-fit after the team screwed up with Gamble/Rivers when they asked him to play CF for a few games.

Yes, they screwed up inexcusably but the team had hit one of those slumps after the AS Break and it would have been better if Oliver had just sucked it up and did what the FO asked him to. The club was going in a bad way and AO’s reaction seemed to make it worse.

I loved Scoop up until then but his reaction made a bad situation worse and probably played a part in the slump becoming as bad as it did. I never thought of him the same way again.

These numbers are seared into my brain – can you imagine going from first place 52-38 to 62-71 in a month and a half? That’s what that team did.

I’m still not over it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bo Belinsky

Cant remember how hard he threw. But remember he was a real character in his brief time in the spotlight

by BEW on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dated all the starlets too.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looked it up

According to wiki, he was linked w/ Ann-Margret, Connie Stevens, Tina Louise, and Mamie Van Doren. Nice.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, judging from last night

he did alot of things well it seems like. Picked a guy off, threw alot of strikes, didnt walk anyone and was flying through the game until the 7th inning…

I think people are down on Feliz for alot of the wrong reasons right now. I think he’s getting close to being ready to pitch in the big leagues in alot of the categories he needed to improve on. However, he’s still got to put it all together, he’s not consistent enough to do all of those things together and keep his mind blowing stuff under control. Anyways, Its one thing to make a judgement by simply looking at his final line, but if you followed the whole game, Feliz was doing alot of things really well last night. I hope he continues it and gets some consistency from start to start and inning to inning

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 17, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Feliz

I’m not sure anyone’s really “down on him”, but he is showing the things that are a hole in his pitching arsenal.
Doesnt make him any less of a killer prospect.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

CROPS SEZ:
4) Neftali Feliz is supposed to be real good and can throw over 100 mile per hour. I know that there aren’t to many guys who can throw their fastball as fast as he can in baseball. Even though I think he’s overrated, I know that the thing about it is that a lot of people in basebaqll overrate him a lot and that means that John daniels could probably trade him this summer for a real good player the Rangers could use and when you are thinking about prospects one of the things you have to consider is what they can get you in a trade and Feliz could get a lot because he can throw it more than 100 miles per hour. But if he can throw it 100 miles per hour like Nolan Ryan could and he’s nto even Nolan Ryan’s favorite pitcher in the Rangers minor leagues like Joe Weiloand is, then you know he’s not really all that great and maybe somebody else will have to learn that the hard way when they trade for him this summer. But still it’s probably going to turn out that Feliz will get good again when the Rangers trade him like Chris Young and John Danks and Duchsherer and Volquez and Galaragga did after John Daniels traded them away to other teams.

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since when does anyone take that seriously?

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

joke lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I had to lie down after this "sentence".....

“Even though I think he’s overrated, I know that the thing about it is that a lot of people in basebaqll overrate him a lot and that means that John daniels could probably trade him this summer for a real good player the Rangers could use and when you are thinking about prospects one of the things you have to consider is what they can get you in a trade and Feliz could get a lot because he can throw it more than 100 miles per hour. "

That comma on the first line actually lulled me into a false hope that the grammar gods had descended on him, but that “and” flurry set me straight.

Dude needs to rent/buy Schoolhouse Rock… “Conjunction Junction, what’s your function?”

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does sound like

It was written by a nine year old.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jun 17, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i think that guy has actually quit writing for them

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully so

That last post he did on Padilla was so riddled with errors- both factual and grammatical- that it made me weep for the state of the English language.

I’m not sure how old Sully is, but I wrote more coherently and with a better grasp of the facts in middle school.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I did, too...

but I never improved from there

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Crops

Makes baby Jesus cry.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random Norm

Rangers are 36-27, Cowboy training camp is a month away and he’s talked about the Cowboy lack of depth at WR fro 35 minutes.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's DFW

Cowboys centric world. You would get 24 hour coverage of players bowel movements if someone thought it would help ratings.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norm is now

getting ready to have Dave Tippett on the show.

WTF, Bascik? Make something happen.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What do you think has Bascik more slump-shouldered??

Being a footnote to the Bonds story or dealing with Norm?

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Norm is now talking

about Stallworth & Michael Vick.

Beating of the highest order.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what's Tippett saying?

I actually really like that guy…feel bad he had to bite the bullet after losing half the team to injury and being forced to try to incorporate Sean Avery.

Although he did underwhelm in his time here.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

who the F typed that crap?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"Money"...

I like that 2-Frank.

by jcAustin on Jun 17, 2009 8:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Dos Franco seems like he'd be a fun guy to go on a bender with.

I don’t know why, but if I could choose one Ranger to meet up with in Vegas, he’d be the guy.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah, I suspect Padz is a mean drunk....

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd roll with Blalock

Pics of him on net with beer bong, team tried to trade him early (when it had nothing to do with how he was playing), lots o’ tats – I think he may be quite the party.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd go with Maddux

I like to be with funny people when I get drunk. He seems like a cool guy.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on Jun 17, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about Omah then?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Omah might get oiled on tequila

and that’s my kryptonite although he looks and sounds like a lotta fun.

Funny how nobody in here has mentioned little Donuts as a candidate.

One wine cooler and he’d be slobbering on and on about how he’s not appreciated enough by the fans.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

totally disagree.....Think JD would be

great to hang with…. did you hear him on TV last year making fun of Josh Lewin’s shorts?

by jcAustin on Jun 17, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JD won't sit in the box

with Nolan because it’s too hot.

He may say otherwise but that’s the reason and that fact alone means I won’t drink with him.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He actually said pretty much just that

In an interview with Evan Grant. He sits up in a suite where its not as hot plus he can keep up with multiple games and reports from around the league.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, he said "the box is air conditioned"

I don’t think he was shying away from the heat issue.

Give him a break, though. He’s a Cornell boy. Nolan has been ranching and playing baseball in the Texas heat his whole life. He’s more accustomed to it than JD.

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"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he actually has things to do during the game

calls that could come in, etc

meanwhile NR does not…

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything really important that JD has to do

also has to get approved by Nolan.

I can only imagine the look Ryan would give Donuts when he would say “it’s too hot.”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, yes. of course

A person’s heat tolerance is a clear indicator of competence and general manliness.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if so, I'm a dumbass and a pu$$y

I sweat probably more than any other human being – and for no good reason. I just sit there and sweat.

But I’d challenge Josey to a round of bare knuckles before I’d admit to being a dumbass and a pu$$y.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

anything important

i doubt that if the giants called up and offered lincecum for boggs that jd would say, let me put you onl hold…

remind me how much actual baseball GM experience NR has?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every day

every single day
every single blessed day

For the sake of all of our sanity. Cant you take a day off every now and then

Even God rested on the seventh day

Man your little act is tiring

by BEW on Jun 17, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but he would have to go get Nolan if any decision were to be made

because he doesn’t make any decisions, remember! So really Nolan should be up there holding his little hand, at least thats what JW thinks

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hell, I've been living in Texas my whole life

Worked outside plenty of times, but I’ll still take the air conditioned box any day of the week.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Seems smart to me

If I had access to a suite with live feeds of the minor league affiliate(s) I would never sit outside again.

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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Managers suite

Ive sat in the suite next to JD’s several times, and in the middle of summer 98deg he will sit in the outside portion of the suite for a large majority of the game.

This may have been before they got feeds of the minor league games.

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by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

After I saw him in those orange pants

on TV I just don’t think I could fit in with his kind of crowd. I just don’t dress well enough I guess. (I am assuming you are talking about Vizquel.)

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on Jun 17, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd rather drink with somebody dressed like Omah

(who had just toured some historical museum?) than some executive dressed like an uptight douche.

Jeeez, Omah wrestles alligators or cobras or anacondas or whatever the hell plus he’s a HOF.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nolan Ryan

doesn’t dress like an uptight douche.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on Jun 17, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah.

I see him being more of the “Get piss ass drunk in the first hour and then disappear back to the room with three hookers and a bottle of tequila and leave you to fend for yourself” kind of guy.

Frank seems like he’d be infinitely more fun.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Probably true

Still, Padz knows how to party. You’re just not invited.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reminds me of that Vince Neil song from Encino Man:

“You’re Invited But Your Friends Can’t Come”

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah

I think Padz gets happy/sappy and philosophical and cries in his beer about how no one understands him.

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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet Marlon Parties

Dude looks like he would lay down some cash if you were out with him in Vegas.

by FuturePants on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I remember FSN did a Texas Truck Stop feature on the players' televisions

Marlon has two hundred inch flat screens or something ridiculous like that. I know that dude would start throwing money around in Vegas like nobody’s business.

On the other end of the spectrum – Millwood said he didn’t know how to work the big tv in his living room, so he just watched tv in his bedroom. If everyone went to Vegas, he’d probably just sit at the bar nursing one drink, watching the young players go crazy and telling fishing stories. I’d like to hang with Milly, he seems like my kind of guy.

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"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I would agree with all of that

except that Millwood would probably be pounding jack on the rocks and just not move. By the end of the night Millwood would be sitting at the bar just taking pulls directly from the jack bottle, not saying a damn word.

by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point, he might be a guy who takes his whiskey VERY seriously

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's pretty nice to drink with a person

that doesn’t run their mouth all the time. When they actually do speak it means more.

It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca

by bioaggie on Jun 17, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

less convo = more drinking

therefore, more interesting time all around

by kevinkinsler on Jun 17, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

for me it's Feldman.....

something about him just says….PARTY!

by jcAustin on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elvis, of course.

Think of the savings. He can turn water into wine.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well-played, sir...

Plus, he’d be a cheap wingman since he isn’t legal yet.

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by bking on Jun 17, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler

hands down.

It would’ve been Milton Bradley last year

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No Wash?

i think wash gets down NO style, and that means he parties right. he’s from the ward so you know he wont freak when you bust out that fat bowl, even if he wont partake, at least he’ll play it cool, plus, all night jazz NO style? yeah, screw the players, im partying with wash

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 17, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What makes you think

he wouldn’t partake?

by bhudson on Jun 17, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wash

Yeah, he looks like a dude who’s smoked a few bowls in his time.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Perhaps a few too many.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by Chase Irwin on Jun 17, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if we're going to NO, I'm with Wash...for sure

if we’re going to NYC, I go with Hammy.

If SoCal, it’s going to be CJ.

In Brazil, I’d roll with Nellie Cruz.

Europe, I’d have to stick with Omar.

In Vegas, where I like to meet reeaaaalllly beautiful women and kick some ass at the blackjack and hold’em tables, plus the sports book, play a little golf, hit the “recovery pools,” I think Ian’s the guy

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Franky

I bet he would be awesome in chessboxing

by Telegraph on Jun 17, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jaramillo

That’s the province of Rudy Jaramillo, who’s as good a hitting coach as there is.

Shouldn’t this perception be questioned by now?

by bflood36 on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, name me a better one?

I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dave magadan

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 17, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sshhhh

Questioning Rudy is not allowed.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy

Rudy puts the hitters in the best chance to have success. He can’t be up there and tell the guy to not swing at bad pitches. He teaches an aggressive approach there is no question about that. But I would be amazed if he taught an approach that has guys swinging at such bad pitches as our guys are swinging at.

I have no problem swinging early in the count if its a good pitch. The problem comes when guys go up there looking for something and swing no matter what is thrown or where its thrown. Rudy can’t control that.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 17, 2009 8:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you think he was/is part of the reason that hank blalock

completely and totally changed his the entire approach that he has taken to the plate/has changed the entire kind of hitter he is?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

His change occurred in Arlington.

He went from a LD guy to whatever it is that he is now. .500 SLG, .250 OBP type.

by FuturePants on Jun 17, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Part of the reason......yeah

But not the only reason. I doubt Rudy has told him he should try and yank for the fences on everything but I also think Rudy probably hasn’t emphasized opposite field approach enough with Hank.

But you can’t say Rudy doesn’t do that with everyone though. Look at Micheal Young. Young loves taking the ball the other way. So hell, maybe Rudy preaches opposite field hitting and Hank just doesn’t listen I don’t know.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 17, 2009 9:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I chose B.

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by Rodney on Jun 17, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

My theory is

From what we’ve heard about Rudy’s approach, it’s supposedly mainly about simple see-ball, hit-ball mechanics and timing. It really doesn’t seem like working on hitting to a specific field is one of his areas of emphasis, it seems like he just works on getting guys to put the bat on the ball, and lets their natural pull or spray tenancies take over from there.

Just a theory, obviously, there’s obviously no way to really back that up – but that would kind of explain how some of these guys like Ian and Hank get stuck in these yank-everything grooves.

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by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy

I remember an interview several years ago that Kinsler had on the ticket, they asked about rudy and the gist was that hes a good teacher.

He said something to the effect of him having the ability to communicate and teach each player to their abilities. Basically that he explained things well and was able to get through to guys and get them to make adjustments that might not have been suggested before.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course ...

if Kins really thought Rudy sucked and was a horrible teacher, I doubt he would have said that in an interview. Players always say positive things about the coach when they are still “the” coach. Hell, they even found nice things to say about Buck right up until Buck got fired.

by Athos on Jun 17, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coaching

I think what he was getting at is he is a good communicator and makes things easy for players to understand and has a way of teaching an individual to fit their style.

From what I’ve read/heard no one thinks he’s a bad teacher, its his philosophy and style that gets the ire of most.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well said.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I got that. I was just pointing out that you can’t expect players to throw their coaches under the bus, even if they don’t like them. In other words, anything a current Rangers player says ought to be taken with a grain of salt.

by Athos on Jun 17, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont think he would anyway

If i remember the interview right they simply asked him why so many players rave about rudy.
And from what current and former players have said I dont think kinsler would even say he sucked

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, I would agree with that. I’m not trying to assert that Kins hates Rudy or anything like that.

by Athos on Jun 17, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maddux's approach

Sounds like Rudy has a cookie cutter type of hitting philosophy. It connects with some players and not others. Is it possible that Rudy’s approach is not what is best for Salty and CD? Maybe there needs to be a new hitting instructor in Arlington that can tailor thier message to the individual.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see him as cookie-cutter

Micheal Young takes most balls to the opposite field while Hank yanks for RF everytime.

Last year Salty was too patient while now hes too aggressive

I think aot of guys are of the approach that “homeruns are sexy” and they think thats what is gonna make them their money when they hit arbitration and try for that too much. Of our regular players who aren’t pre-arbitration Micheal Young, Andruw Jones, and Marlon Byrd are guys who I don’t see swinging for the fences everytime. Hank and Ian do however.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 17, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

being aggressive and swinging for the fences

are different. It might be Ian’s and Hank’s way of implementing what Rudy preaches but I don’t think that is what Rudy wants them to do. I am sure Rudy tells them to be aggressive, swing at good pitches to hit and to go with the pitch. However, I am not sure the aggressive part of his sermon works with all players. It certainly hasn’t connected with Salty and CD.

Something that baffles me is how a team can go from 11th in obp in 2007 to 2nd in 2008 and back to 11th in 2009.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ridiculous

That’s like saying Maddux has a cookie cutter approach because he wants all his pitchers to throw strikes, work quickly, and get ahead in the count. Rudy Jaramillo is not the problem. Was Jaramillo the problem last year? 90% of all this crap (or more) is the players, the coaches can only help them get the most out of the abilities they have, not make them totally different players.

This “ooh, shhhhhh, you can’t question Jaramillo” is just a meme fad here lately. A very lazy way to criticize the hitting approach of the players the team has.

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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

The reason some people don’t blame Rudy is because no hitting manager alive has that type of power over hitting talent like we have.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

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-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree 100 percent on this

Jarimillo is not the problem. Some want to throw out all the years when we’ve had great, balanced offenses under Rudy’s tutelage, its hard to teach hitters how to judge whether a pitch is a strike or a ball, thats one of the most difficult, yet basic thing a hitter has to learn. Its almost like trying to change their DNA, free swinger vs. patient, most of them are what they are by the time they reach the bigs.

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by blalock84 on Jun 17, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

great, balanced offenses

Which years? Can you define that for me?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

uh last year?????

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 17, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

one year is not "offenses"

Can you define “great, balanced offenses”?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In a different thread

do you complain about how the national media just thinks the Rangers are all bat all the time? The Rangers have a reputation as a top hitting team because they have been a top hitting team more years than not. Rudy tries to get the most out of his hitters like any coach does. The Rangers have not often had high OBP guys, they’ve usually had more aggressive style hitters on the team. What is Jaramillo supposed to do, teach against their talent?

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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

reputation

Over the last 15 years thier average finish is 3rd in AL slg %. So that rep is deserved. However, I don’t think that alone equates to a great offensively balanced team. Only 4 times in Rudy’s tenure have they been in the top 5 in both slg % and obp (98,99,01, 08).

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy

He is an excellent coach of hitting mechanics. Rangers teams have a reputation of being aggressive hitters. That comes from Rudy. Some player stake to it and some don’t. I am am sure thier are some players where the aggressive style is against thier natural talent.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 2:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That comes from Rudy

in PART. Come, on, they’ve had players here like Pudge, who hardly ever walked, and Juando. Hamilton, Young, etc. These guys would be aggressive hitters no matter who the coach was. I’m not saying Rudy is perfect or that his approach shouldn’t be questioned, but it has suddenly become very fashionable to do so around here.

It just strikes me as lazy, like the blaming of Connor for injuries and bad performances by the pitching staff. Ridiculous. This stuff is just not that simple.

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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't remember when Jarimillo came on board

…but it was a long, long time ago wasn’t it? The Rangers had some pretty balanced offenses during the 1990’s, and not just on the three division-winning teams.

I refuse to believe that he is not part of the problem. What we’re seeing these days are hitters who are totally undisciplined. Almost all of them; it’s a systemic failure up there. If there is a problem, then the coaching staff needs to find a way to address it. The Rangers have some real good hitters and I think if they were TOLD (not asked) to be more patient, they would eventually come around and be better for it. I mean all of these guys have excellent vision. They can see whether a pitch is going to be a strike or not most of the time.

by Black Francis on Jun 17, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was on board since the beginning

of the Melvin era.

Here is the Rangers rank amongst the 14 AL teams in those years

1995 10
1996 5
1997 9
1998 2
1999
2000
2001
2002
2003
2004
2005
2006
2007
2008
2009

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by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sigh, hate the ability not to edit.

1999 3
2000 6
2001 4
2002 6
2003 8
2004 11
2005 6
2006 9
2007 11
2008 2

Never the best, and never the worst at OBP.

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by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That Sherrington column

I don’t think he really understands how little the manager matters in baseball.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 8:38 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Jack McKeon would likre to talk to you.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huh?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

link

2003 Florida Marlins

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so...

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Post hoc ergo propter hoc.

Duh!!!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you need pictures?

Do the 2003 Marlins win the WS if they don’t fire Jeff Torborg?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 9:28 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lazy logic.

Paging Mr. Lazy Logic.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

The better question is

Do the 2003 Marlins win the WS if they hire someone other than Jack McKeon?

Torborg was fired when the team had a 16-22 record. The 2007 Rockies didn’t start the season off well either and were 18-27 on May 21. From that point on though, Hurdle was able to somehow manage better and that team went on to go to the World Series. Brilliant job by Clint Hurdle who of course right now is looking for a job. Does that mean that Hurdle forgot how to manage games all of a sudden or does it mean that he wasn’t ever that good of a manager and the team deserves a lot of credit for what they were able to accomplish.

Sometimes the team needs a change and sometimes the manager really does more harm than good, like when the players hate the guy and quit playing for him. That doesn’t mean that a guy like McKeon was responsible for getting the pitching staff to pitch better or for the offense to score more runs. A lot of the times, the manager is also just the guy to blame when a team under-performs simply because of some bad luck with injuries.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

sure

I was just taking exception to your blanket statement “how little the manager matters in baseball.” I think you just confirmed that that is not the case.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How the hell did I confirm that's not the case?

There comes a time when a manager is so bad that his team quits playing for him, but for 90% of managers in baseball, that’s not the case.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL.

That’s what you got from that?

Awesome.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Goes along with what I said above

That Blue Jays team gave up on Gibbons a long time ago. They’ve been putting good teams out there, but when your manager is literally fighting with the players, there’s something seriously wrong. Gaston wasn’t some type of savior to that team. He just wasn’t Gibbons.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pretty much

A manager just isn’t going to get his players to play better than they’re capable of.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that's all on the manager?

Not the player, not just bad luck, not just one of many other variables that can affect a player outside of the manager

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what seperates the best

They can eliminate most all variables, except for bad luck of course.

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who would you say is the best?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Tony LaRussa is great at getting his players to play up their best

That is very evident by his current lineup. The one that, outside of Pujols, has 2 players with an OPS+ over 100 (101 and 103) and a bunch of below average hitters. If that’s the best manager in baseball, either that GM blows or managers just aren’t very good.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look at the roster

Other than Pujols, a lot of rookies and players who have been injured.

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

These rookies should be playing up to their potential, no?

If the manager has that type of power over his players, he should be able to make the rookies play great and not just like you would expect rookie to play like. That team has one 22 year old in Colby Rasmus and then players 26 and over. What about Ryan Ludwick posting a .736 OPS on the season when last year he was at .966. What about Schumaker playing so poorly this season while he was at least average the last season and a half.

The bottom line is that the manager just doesn’t have that much control over his player’s production.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skip who? I would bet this is the best baseball he will ever play. Ludwick, SSS, been injured most of the year.

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Schumaker played better last year

under LaRussa. Did he just lose talent between the season then?

Ludwick’s played in 46 out of 65 games this year and has been playing poorly since coming off the DL. He wasn’t playing as good as last year before going on the DL too.

Keep making excuses for them all you want, but if the manager was truly that good, he’d be able to have these players overcome things like this.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's probably playing at the same level

Just pitched to a bit differently, you know?

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So then...

Its not about the manager

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why?

He’s still playing up to his potential…

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 3:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what was he doing last year?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm, i disagree

well, i guess i’d say that more often those variables are bad luck… Injuries being the foremost of those.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 17, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Beavan on with Bad Radio at 2:15

I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 17, 2009 8:45 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Damn!

Better trade him now while he still has some value.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 17, 2009 8:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody call in and make sure he gets asked about the nickname C-Wun.

I wanna know if he likes it or not.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What does that even mean?

I think I missed the origination of that one.

by FuturePants on Jun 17, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Captain Wonderful

I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 17, 2009 9:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It comes from the fact that he's highly impressed with his abilities

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT. Damn, Ben Zobrist is amazing.

I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 17, 2009 8:59 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at his fielding too

Their lineup has become pretty formidable with him coming on.

by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 9:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what he, Scutaro and Bartlett have been shooting this year

But whatever it is, I’d like to get our clubhouse some.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's Zobrist's story

click

I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 17, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, then maybe we just need to send our entire offense to Jaime Cevallos, ASAP.

Good read.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sounds like that Cevallos guy

would get along well with Trip (NoNameOnCard).

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

F that

I want some myself

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just so I can be that guy

I can’t believe Zobrist was on the waiver wire in one of my fantasy leagues just a month ago. That was a nice pickup.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Picked up Zobrist 3 weeks ago myself

when Hardy started sucking.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I picked him up 2 months ago

And dropped him 3 weeks later…. F

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good grief, I've got Hardy in my weekly keeper league

After contributing almost nothing last week, I stuck him on the bench and inserted The Riot into the starting lineup for this week.

Between that, Hambone’s injury, and the early season struggles of Burnett and Beckett (gave up and traded the latter), it’s no wonder I’m sitting comfortably in 9th place (out of 10).

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody in my league dropped Verlander over the weekend

and I very craftily picked him up.

Sonofabitch got bombed last night by Cards.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, no joke, that's an idiotic move in a normal sized league

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

8 teams in the league

and I think he had a roster squeeze (injuries) but not sure exactly.

Maybe he thought he could float him by over the weekend without anybody noticing. I got hold of him and he got torched.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

by Josey Wales on Jun 17, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nice work, I love it when guys think they can pull a fast one like that

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's kind of like saying

a winning lottery ticket fell into your lap and you “craftily” cashed it in to collect the winnings.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

dont feel bad

i have hammy and sizemore… its hurts to be hurt

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 17, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch

In my league I really don’t spend that much time on, I’m mired in dead least (12 team mixed). Jose Reyes was my first pick. In a desperate attempt to shake things up, I traded he and then-injured Harden for Joba and Soriano.

Meanwhile, my 1B/Util spots started out as, drum roll please, Conor Jackson and Joey Votto. I have since resorted to James Loney and off the waiver wire, Casey Blake. At any moment I expect Loney to quit baseball and Blake to suffer a season-ending injury.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just looked at the updated numbers

Kevin Millwod deserves to be an All-Star

by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

By surface numbers maybe.

It’s odd though, because FIP and tRA refuse to say he’s been this good this year. Probably mainly because he’s not striking hardly anyone out. Just under 5 per 9 now. It’s kind of insane how effective our starting staff has been despite a complete inability to strike anyone out.

Yay for defense, I suppose.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Like JD said in his chat yesterday

It goes hand in hand. Millwood’s been challenging hitters and getting some weak contact from them. The defense then finishes the job. At least with Millwood, he seems to actually go into games with some kind of game plan.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It scares me though

Because I just don’t think that Feldman and Millwood are going to be able to maintain this kind of success with their low K rates and abnormally low BABIP’s.

Our starting staff has the lowest K/9 in the majors (4.94), the lowest BABIP (.279) and the fourth-highest FIP (4.94). That just screams candidate for regression.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you have amazing defense

You’re going to have a low BABIP. That’s due for a bit of a regression, but I don’t think its anywhere near enough to see some serious regression from the pitching staff

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fourth lowest FIP?

well as long as we stay away from the bottom, I think the way our D is playing we can keep our RA allowed right in the middle of the pack… where we need to be. Of course, thats also counting on an above average hitting team, which we’ve been struggling to be lately, but I think you have to have similar faith that our hitting will come around a bit if our pitching is going to fade back a bit. Again, the defense is the difference between what we were to what we are now.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 17, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

which will be nice

when Dutch, Feliz and Sheets are starting for us and racking those Ks up

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rangers Inquired On Snell

Link

I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 17, 2009 9:48 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

So... I take it from that vague little snippet that we'd've used him a reliever?
The Texas Rangers have inquired with the Pirates about trading for starter Ian Snell, but the Pirates have engaged no team seriously in such talks, largely because other teams value Snell as a reliever, and the Pirates will want a starter’s worth in return.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 17, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WHY???

don’t we have plenty of crappy pitchers already?

by sam in so cal on Jun 17, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snell's "good"

but not playing like it. A change of scenery COULD work out?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's funny

how many pitchers got better when they came to arlington?

actually that’s hilarious. i’m laughing my ass off.

by sam in so cal on Jun 17, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kenny Rogers had a few of his worst years away from Arlington

and definitely had his best years here, in the old and new ballpark.

John Thomson had a pretty decent year here, I think it set up a nice deal for him in Atlanta.

Capable pitchers can do well here…Rick Helling, Aaron Sele, John Burkett, Kenny Hill, Todd Stottlemyre, Roger Pavlik all looked CAPABLE. When we’ve had 3 or more very capable starters on this roster healthy at the same time, we’ve had success.

Oh. And what is it that all of the people on this board usually do, indicate “Park Factors” when talking about ERA, etc.? Please allow for some of that…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ha ha ha
Oh. And what is it that all of the people on this board usually do, indicate "Park Factors" when talking about ERA, etc.? Please allow for some of that…

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by Chase Irwin on Jun 17, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meh.

Snell’s got BB problems and his strikeout rate is down again this year. I guess he’d make an interesting pickup, but I certainly wouldn’t trade anything of real significant value for him.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

For you iphone users

MLB.com will start streaming live games to the iphone via the MLB AtBat app.

For now, no additional charges — we’ll see if that changes.

They’re going to start with 2 games per day.

Pretty sweet.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 17, 2009 10:36 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Omce again the best 10 dollars I have spent in a long time

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 17, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This!

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this app alone

may be enough to seriously get me to switch from by BB to iphone when my contract is up….

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup!

I love it, i get to listen to games when i cant be near a tv
being able to watch some games will be great (assuming im in a 3g area at the time)

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wait until friday for sure!!

And if you can fork out the extra $100, get the new 3Gs.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

NO.

That’s the point. I dont want to spent $200 dollars on a phone, especially when the only reason I want it over the one I have is the MLB AtBat app.

by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's worth it

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Trust me.

It’s worth whatever cost you can afford. I have not been disappointed. I can work from the golf course, the beach, at a softball game…I can listen to all of my music…I can figure out the weather, check flight information, etc.

It’s worth it.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why the hell

would I want to work on the beach? Not saying the product isn’t great, but I go to the beach in order to go to the beach.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 2:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by Chase Irwin on Jun 17, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when you own your own business...

why not do both?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 4:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That does make some sense

if you have a client oriented business and want to be reachable, I’d do that much. But even then, on some days I’m going to have my message/autoreply say I’ll return your call/email tomorrow.

some of this stuff is easier for me. Piano teaching and vocal coaching are not as time sensitive as some businesses.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

very true

it’s all in the eyes of the beholder. I wouldn’t need one of these if I was still working as a corporate slave…but I’d still WANT one.

I guess my main point on value is that I paid $150.00 for an iPod a month before I bought the iPhone, and the iPod held less music than the iPhone does. I returned the iPod, got my money back, and just like that, I’ve got almost all of my music (including CDs I put on iTunes) on this tiny little device that is my phone, my laptop computer, my calendar (keeps me in line), my Camera and many other things. And all I paid was an additional $150 for all of that.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They choose two games?

Or you can watch two of your own choice?

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jun 17, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It IS Apple, after all...

They have perfected the science of telling you what you get and making you like it..

Correction — making you love it and ask for more.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB decides which games

not Apple.

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 17, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just read Lucas' report on the spokane roster

And did not see Sierra’s name on the list. Where has the Rangers sent him to start his big league career?

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

my guess:

extended? maybe DSL?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Id think Extended to start

If he starts off hot he could get the bump to Spokane around August or so.

The Spokane roster right now is alot older than the past few years.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 17, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

As a high school

kid wouldn’t he make sense in rookie league?

by Hull Fan on Jun 17, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

asking b/c hes from PR

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

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