Crops on the Farm: Draft Review
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:08 AM CDT
302 comments
Just a brief review of the Rangers first 6 rounds of the 2009 amateur draft. Here is the link: Crops on the latest Crops
Here is a taste:
R1 (14) LHP Mathew Purke: Color me tickled. Purke might turn out to be the best first round selection since fellow Texan John Danks in 2003. Purke who is from Texas, was one of the best left handed pitchers in the draft with an explosive fastball and a very good slider. He is a tall kid with room to add more mass as he gets older. This is the type of draft pick the Rangers needed to make. He might just blow away the competition and reach Arlington before all the busts not-named Blake from the 2007 draft. Mark my words. Purke is going to be an ace. Apparently he only fell to Texas because of his bonus demands but that wont stop Billionare Tom Hicks from writing the check Jerry Jones style. (Is having three Billionare owners good for Dallas sportsfans or bad? Discuss.) Purke seems like a lock to sign and should reach Hickory by the end of the season. I cant wait until this kid makes it to Arlington. Start the timer.
Grade: A+
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I voted Mandonkey for quality of nickname.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 17, 2009 10:09 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I've been calling him
Tommy Medusa, but ManDonkey is good.
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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I guess Crops doesn't follow College Baseball?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 17, 2009 10:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he is just a Sooner's fan
because how do you miss the CWS MVP if you follow college baseball?
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
God I hope Finn isn't a Sooner fan
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When he steps up for his first pro AB, I was planning to say "It's on like Mendonca-Kong."
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good idea
Then you can follow it up with a rally turtle or a FAIL image. I can’t wait.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn
Snappage!
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 17, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
The Rangers need better outfielders and it looks like they think Sierra is the next great Rangers outfielder.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 17, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Honest question man, why do you even bother plugging your site here anymore?
You know what’s coming, if all you can offer in the way of analysis is calling Mendoca a horrible pick because he was “unknown” and Sierra a great pick because his daddy was pretty good.
At this point I’m starting to think this is a schtick.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 10:19 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wish I cared what you thought
But I do not.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You didn't answer my question.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because I like my site
Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions 9 recs
So, in other words because you're just looking for the attention and hits, you don't really care if you're a laughingstock or not.
Gotcha.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Laughingstock?
C’mon. Have you read your own posts? And yes……I want attention and hits. Badly.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, at least you admit it.
But you must be really, really desperate for those hits, because around here, laughingstock is all you are. And I’d rather be quietly semi-anonymous than a laughingstock, myself.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thats the point, lonestarjon
You are a laughingstock. You know that right? Have you posted a cute gif in a thread today? If not can you get on that?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
See, I’ve been around here a bit longer than you have, Finnerty. And I can tell you this: I may not be the smartest or the most popular guy around here, but I am a member of the community. Definitely still a junior member, but I guarantee you I’m a lot more respected than some guy who only comes around to post self-admitted desperate plugs of a blog everyone knows is terrible (and yet still somehow manages to take himself and his work seriously).
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 15 recs
You are right about one thing Jon
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See "recs" above
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That convinced me
Thanks for pointing out the recs. I didnt realize who I was dealing with. Now I do. I’ll tread lightly.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
POW! POW POW!
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 17, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Like kobiashi!
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey now
hes the only one i know who has called a triple play……..lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't see this as a little bit of whoring?
Keeping your blog in your sig is one thing; totally acceptable, in my opinion.
But to write a FanPost about it (especially when, if anything, it’s a FanShot) comes off as desperate for hits.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 17, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What's wrong with being desperate?
You felt the need to comment/police on the thread. What does that make you? A concerned blog citizen? C’mon. We are all desperate for attention. We just take different approaches.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just a question, pal.
And yeah, I guess it does make me “a concerned blog citizen.” And if you can live with being a blogwhore, and I can live with being a “concerned blog citizen,” then I guess there’s no issue.
Just don’t cry in your beer when your “analysis” gets ripped apart. You’ll find no comfort here.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 17, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"You'll find no comfort here"
Deep.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not meant to be deep.
In fact, it’s meant at precisely face value.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 17, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"We are all desperate for attention. We just take different approaches."
Nice line on a couple of different levels.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 17, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
Everyone is complaining about him making a fanpost about his blog, but here we are commenting on it.
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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm only doing it because I'm missing the point apparently
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 6:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread was hilarious
Everyone in high dudgeon. This guys is almost as much fun as Josey.
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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can't lie, that's a good line.
We need more of this. Viva Crops!
by ncrangerfan on Jun 17, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's got to be a bit
No one could suck that much.
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 17, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is greatness
1. Everyone from the 2007 draft but Beavan is a bust? That’s rich. Considering JD said Borbon is high on the priority list to get a call-up right now.
2. What publications do you read? Because all the important ones knew who Mendonca was. You know, when a guy is named Most Outstanding Player in the College World Series, that kind of kills the whole “unknown” bit.
3. Robbie Ross “hasn’t even been good enough to pitch” Uhh, what do you think he’s been doing down in extended? Drinking Snapple and playing Boggle all day?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, and per Scott Lucas, Ross is on the Spokane roster
So he may suck but they’re going to run him out there anyway.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love the nuanced analysis.
No need for grades between Bs and Fs.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Average players are boring.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
clearly you do not believe the scouts on erlin
R3: LHP Robert Erlin.
Well, it looks like the Rangers drafted another throw away player. Erlin who? Erlin is a very short lefthanded pitcher that doesn’t throw hard and doesn’t have a high ceiling. He was a cheap player to sign and not much else. How many little pitchers do the Rangers need? Kiker has potential but Ross hasn’t even been good enough to pitch and we drafted him last season. If Erlin is the new Ross than Rangers fans deserve an apology.
Grade: F
read a lot of things about him that basically said his problem was that he is too short, if he was 2-3 inches taller he would have been a 1st rd pick
equally ross was a 1st rd talent last year but dropped because of his committment to kentucky (i think it was KY) and his bonus demands to buy him out of that committment. ross has not pitched this year because he has been at extended ST and the rangers want to limit his innings pitched — what would you rather them do? start him off early and then end his season early or start him off later and let him pitch through the end of the year?
quick search talks about erlin on a mets site
5/28 from BA: Multiple scouts have said the same thing about Erlin: “If he were two inches taller, you’d be talking about him as a first rounder.” One scout regretted that it had to come down to that. “That sucks that what we do for a living is look at kids and cookie cut them like that.” Erlin is a 5-foot-11, 170-pound lefthander from the Santa Cruz area. Despite the small frame, he still has some life to his fastball, pitching at 89-92 mph. He commands the pitch to both sides of the plate and also has a well-above-average curveball—a hammer he can throw for strikes in any count. He can get underneath his changeup a little bit, but it too has a chance to be above-average. Erlin is regarded as a great kid and is committed to Cal Poly.
Bryan (San Francisco): I know he doesn’t have the greatest size, but do you think LHP Robbie Erlin from Scotts Valley has a chance to go in the top 3 rounds? Thanks!
John Manuel: Sounds like he does, spins a breaking ball very well, if he were bigger he’d be a first-rounder but we’re hearing 2-to-4 on him.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This is the greatest day in Cahill's life
by LiamP on Jun 17, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I am so very
extremely god damn Happy!!! This is almost better than sweeping the Angels.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Imagine
if the team swept the Angels and crops wrote a long fanpost about it.
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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Drool
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-finerty.fan
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sig
Don’t you have spellcheck? Did that Spellman idiot right your sig four you? God, get a life you loser, no one should ever read your comments, let alone reply to them. God, you are so immature (insert pic of middle finger). /LSB ironic complaints committee.
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by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crops on the Farm just craps on it.
Now that’s humorous. Today’s comedians could learn a lot from my comment as much as the scouts of today could learn from Crops on the Farm.
-Angry fan of a First Place Team
by chrisR on Jun 17, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You should have just said Craps on the Farm
That would have been funnier.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
just face it and agree that you screwed the pooch on erlin and mendonca
because to be honest, you did
also, calling erlin a “throw away” player is fucking dumb, hes a top 200 draft prospect per BA and he would have been a 1st rd guy if he was 3 inches taller…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't matter
Erlin has command of two pitches, has already developed an above-average curve, has a good feel for a change-up, and according to several scouts, had a first-round arm.
Potential first-round value in the third round? I’ll take that every time, especially when it’s left-handed. There’s a fair number of successful pitchers in the majors under six feet tall.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's too short!!!
Just like Moscoso. He’s just too damn short. Cut that mofo now
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is kind of my point
and i saw it a lot of places regarding the rangers draft — even when someone (a reviewer) didnt particularly like the draft, they were quick to say that the player chosen was good value for where the pick was made (ie, sierra, erlin, etc)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silly rabbit
He’s shorter than johan santana, scott kazmir and roy oswalt. That 1 inch means he will suck at baseball and fail at life.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed the point
The issue is not that if he were three inches taller he’d be a good pitcher. The issue is that he he doesn’t have the prototypical body type for a starting pitcher, so he probably got overlooked or at the very least, dinged a little bit by scouts.
If he was a fastball only guy, the height would definitely be an issue. But short pitchers with good breaking balls and/or changes can be extremely successful in the big leagues. See Oswalt, Roy.
I’m going to side with Baseball America on this one. They’ve no doubt analyzed Erlin much more than anyone on this site.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
not Roy Oswalt but hey
Danny Ray Herrera got his first ML win yesterday.
-Angry fan of a First Place Team
by chrisR on Jun 17, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One scout regretted that it had to come down to that. "That sucks that what we do for a living is look at kids and cookie cut them like that."
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
equally, if this is your arguement for why hes not good
“hes short” thats dumb, we already went over a long list of players who have been successful in the major leagues that are short
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many 5'11'' Lefthanders
are above average pitchers in the majors right now?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you not realize that the idea that short pitchers can not be any good
has been debunked EVERYWHERE by now.
you use that wagner was hurt as a reason that a short LHP cant be any good…
you do relize that one of the best pitchers in baseball is LISTED at 5’11" 170#?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll ask again
How many 5’11’’ lefthanders are above average pitchers in the majors?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you pick a random height
20+ average male height in US: 5’10.4"
20-29 average height in US: 5"9.9"
20-39 black americans: 5’10.1"
20-39 white americans: 5’10.4"
20-39 mexican americans: 5’7.2"
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I answered below too
Mike Hampton (5-10), Wandy Rodriguez (5-11), Johan Santana (6-0) Hang on, ill have more
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yesterday he became
the proud owner of a major league win.
-Angry fan of a First Place Team
by chrisR on Jun 17, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Antonio Bastardo is one
Herrera is smaller and he is another.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love that name
And in comes BASTARDO!!
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of the top ten ERA leaders in each league, the following are 6'0" or below
Cueto: 5’10"
Lincecum: 5’11"
Billingsley: 6’0"
Lilly: 6’0"
That’s 20% of the top 20 ERA pitchers right now. Four others are 6’1’. Those are just the ERA leaders among starting pitchers, not to mention the rest of those starters and relievers who are “above average.”
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I asked for left handed pitchers
You listed one. Congrats.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What the hell does it matter if he's left handed or right handed?
Is a 5’11" lefty any more at a disadvantage than a 5’11" righthander?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finnerty is fucked in the head
5’11’ is 5’11’ no matter if they are right handed, left handed or throwing the rock with their dick it is still 5’11’.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
throwing the rock with their dick
This creates quite the visual….
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 18, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
My question focused on lefties. The point is: you can only name a few 5’11’’ pitchers that are succesful in the majors. Out of how many? Thats the point. Not many 5’11’’ pitchers make it.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many 6-10 guys
are successful pitchers in the majors? Cmon!! name them!!!
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is just a flawed argument.
From a population perspective, 6’ 10" people aren’t common. 5’ 10" to 6’ 0" people are all over the place.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know
im just giving him a hard time.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
about as flawed as saying a 5ft11 lefty cant be good
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One is an opinion, the other is statistically proven...
…so, yeah, in that way, they are similar.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Statistically proven?
Not trying to get on you at all but where is the study on that? Im new to the statistical analysis stuff (despite doing it in my real job and in grad school ) and sabermetrics. Im not too proud to be proven wrong.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
You need me to pull actual numbers to prove that 6’ 10" people are rare and that 5’ 10" to 6’ 0" people aren’t?
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No no no
Im talking about the attrition rate of 5-10 to 6 ft lefties that are drafted and their success rates in MLB. Cmon, you really think im THAT dumb? (dont answer tha ha)
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
rentz said...
That arguing not many 6’ 10" pitchers have success in the majors is about as flawed as saying a 5’ 11" pitcher can’t be good.
Attrition rates don’t really apply here.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am aruging the basic premise of
Finnerty’s argument. He said that not many lefties 6 ft and below make it. I was asking if you knew of any studies that verify that.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, not that many are drafted.
So… even if they fall off at a lower rate than taller pitchers, there will be fewer of them around.
The might succeed more often (percentage-wise) but that’s because to get drafted/signed as a short guy, you need to have something special. Sometimes tall guys get drafted just because they’re tall. It skews the numbers.
Like I said below, ultimately the individual determines his success, but scouts are always going to favor the tall guy unless the short guy has far better stuff.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you agree
that it is a “bad” pick BECAUSE he is short and left handed?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 17, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not bad because he's lefthanded.
That’s not even what Finnerty was saying.
It’s questionable because he’s short and doesn’t have overwhelming stuff – at least, according to most reports. I haven’t seen it, so I can’t really comment on it.
The scouting reports certainly aren’t as glowing as you’d like to see for a 3rd round pick.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can you link to said reports?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what ive read the 3rd wasnt a reach for him
but no, he doesnt have purke like stuff or anything
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I disagree
Well, it looks like the Rangers drafted another throw away player. Erlin who? Erlin is a very short lefthanded pitcher that doesn’t throw hard and doesn’t have a high ceiling. He was a cheap player to sign and not much else. How many little pitchers do the Rangers need?
He mentions Erlin’s stature twice. If height wasn’t the reason, he wouldn’t mention it more than once.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 17, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That logic is awful.
He also mentions that he doesn’t throw hard and doesn’t have a high ceiling.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so its like RW
because he says the right things, hes making the right decision?
because RW happens to leave a pitcher in for an inning too long, he walks the bases loaded, then gets a triple play to finish th inning w/o giving up any runs, is it a good decision to leave him in?
he has stated how short pitchers wont be good (both here and on crops) before…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
it is clear what he is emphasizing
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 17, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your wrong
your asking for good to great 5’11" lefties (again, for the record, how many guys do you think that are listed in the MLB at their “real” height?…)
not asking for players/pitchers who made the big leagues and held on for a while
so you dont want to have players who are solid, only who are All Star Caliber guys?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your knock on him seems to be that he's short
Therefore, isn’t it useful to look at the success of short pitchers in general, rather than arbitrarily looking at ONLY 5’11" pitchers who also happen to be lefthanded? Have you heard of a phenomenon called sample size?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why arent you even acknowledging the list i provided?
I played by the rules, i answered your question. You know why you arent? Because you are WRONG.
Bastardo, Herrera, Kazmir, Lilly, Santana, Wandy Rodriguez, Hampton, JP Howell, Ricky Romero
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm wrong?
You listed a few names. That proves my point. Not many short pitchers, regardless if they are 5’10 and 5’11’’ or even 6’0’’ find success at the major league level compared to taller pitchers. Drafting a 5’11’’ lefty without dominate stuff is a throw-away pick in my opinion. Hes a longshot at best.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the grand scheme of things, aren't all draft picks longshots to find success at the ML level?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I prefer players with better odds
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what better odds
who would you have taken there?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't bother he won't answer
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would have drafted Jake Barrett
How do you like them apples?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate apples
They make my teeth hurt.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well why don't you go apply
For the head scouting job and become a crosschecker then you could get who you want. We all can’t be rock stars like you.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is Jake Barrett a better bet to be a good player in the majors than Erlin?
And how much more would it cost to sign him? Is his makeup better? Is his stuff better and/or more advanced? Or is he just a few inches taller?
by naropean on Jun 17, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
finnery
this is a blog that you should do — compare the two and then say why you would rather have barrett (seriously)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly...
so why worsen those odds by picking short guys without dominant stuff?
I think his argument makes sense.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are the odds exactly?
I’d love to see something more quantifiable than just listing pitchers who are short that pitch in the majors. What’s percentage of pitchers 6’0" or shorter drafted/signed that make the majors? What’s the percentage of pitchers 6’1" or taller who are drafted/signed who make the majors?
My gut feeling is that it’s not that big of a margin…
by jcir454 on Jun 17, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Percentages are pointless on the individual basis
There’s a reason some “short” pitchers never make it to the Majors as a successful pitcher while others do. Each one needs to be looked at as an an individual.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree...
but there are two posters who are arguing that taller pitchers have better odds to be successful major league pitchers than shorter pitchers. They did not, however, back that up with any statistical measure.
by jcir454 on Jun 17, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gdawg actually makes a good point.
Scouting is about the individual, not the odds. A short guy who throws 100 mph with dominant breaking stuff will get drafted high every time because despite his height, he has a very high ceiling.
Tall guys with average stuff have an advantage over short guys with average stuff. That’s a matter of physics.
Ultimately, the individual determines how good he’s going to be, but because of the nature of scouting, more 6’ 0" or taller pitchers are drafted because of the natural physical advantage.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's an ideal body for every sport
I don’t doubt that the statistics would back that up, but that just doesn’t matter that much if the talent is there.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have the ideal body type
for pinochile.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just so you know
And knockoutking alluded to this above- a lot of pitchers who are listed at 6 feet or 6’1" are really not that tall. It’s pretty common for pitchers to “add” an inch or two of height, precisely because of the scouting prejudice against “short” pitchers.
Also- it’s “dominant” stuff. “Dominate” is the verb, “dominant” is the adjective. Just a small pet peeve of mine.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
By that argument...
Erlin might only be 5’ 7". I’m not sure this actually helps the case.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
good point
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes also young and still has a chance to gain 1-2 inches
if hes suddenly 6ft1 he’ll be good right?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exACTLY!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want to count on that...
You might as well count on him gaining 3-4 MPH in velocity and developing a new pitch.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not counting on anything
I just hate judging a player based on his height, thats like saying a guy will succeed because he has a good face.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 17, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not even close.
Height/frame is a vital part of scouting and projection.
“Good face” is retarded.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you believe that the Rangers scouts
are good enough at what they do to pick out a kid to pick in the 3rd round?
They seem to be getting much better at picking talent. I will remain interested in this short little turd until he proves me wrong.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 17, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Danny Ray Herrera’s 5’7" on a good day, and he made the majors.
I’m more concerned about the quality of Erlin’s pitches, which is reportedly pretty good, than how tall he is.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Herrera has a better change up than most deities.
Erlin has a decent major league curveball.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're saying that Danny Ray
has a better change up than Buddha?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 17, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you saying
that Jesus Christ can’t hit a curveball?!
by CS3 on Jun 17, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
You suck at life
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 11:11 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for posting
Nice pic of CJ. You must be a follower type.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You excited about going into the 3rd grade?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is so backwards, I think my head is going to explode.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He cant help it
Gdawg is a follower. He was probably just busy following CJ’s twitter updates.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
fuck twitter
You are truly one of the dumbest people on this site and unless you’re a bitter old man or a drunk, there is no excuse.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what's backwards
is that someone can come here, spam their site, and you have people actually engaging him trying to make a logical argument when his reasoning for some of these guys being bad picks is that he’s never heard of him.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
I'm in some circles that makes it appropriate to tell someone that he sucks at life...
but then to back it up with a comment about immaturity while giving him the finger? Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Dude.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So I'm supposed to be above him or whatever you want to call it
What good is that going to do? You can see how he responds to well reasoned posts discussing the man reasons he’s stupid and should stop posting his site over here. Notice how there isn’t any more responses to my post?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know...
You could just not click on his links or not read his FanPosts.
You’re right, it’s too difficult to ignore him. Let’s tell him he sucks at life, give him the finger, and call him names!
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could
You could just as easily not comment on any of my posts and ignore them. Funny how that works?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You missed the point.
I’m not surprised.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't miss the point at all
I could live a happy life by not clicking on his links or responding to him with immature posts. Right? Isn’t that your point?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so care to explain
what’s your point?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
has anybody lost stature quicker on a site?
i’ll get my information from driveline from now on
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ask again
what exactly was your point that I was missing so badly?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
what are you, his mother?
what do you care if he’s calling him names.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well said
Excellent sentence structure gdawg. Keep it up.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point, I think so.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
At this point?
It’s been obvious for quite a while.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 17, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it is schtick
then bravo to Finnerty.Fan for playing the role so convincingly. If not, then well….wow.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really dont think it is
i think they are just kids, makes it hard to bash em too hard
how are you doing MC? how did UD do this year? (didnt you graduate already?)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah i graduated in 06
Getting dual masters there right now while working full time. I DONT DONT DONT recommend the working full time part ha. They didnt pretty well i think. Played a fairly tough schedule. Have a couple young kids who are really good and played this year. Losing their SS (kid was a freshman when i was there, very good player) this year. It is the usual: 25-30 wins, 10-15 losses. Cant seem to get over that hump into the tourney as an Indy.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i remember seeing that kid a few years ago (brother played for howard payne last year and then ETBU this year) — seemed pretty solid
when i go back im going to school full time lol thanks for helping to reinforce that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ETBU?
Is coach Blackmon still there? He was my coach my jr yr in HS and then for 3 yrs at UD.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea
he is — do i want to ask what you think of him?
random question: did yall have a LOT of arm injuries at UD when he was there?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blackmon
Very good coach just have to put up with how temperamental he is. One of those coaches that when you get in his dog house you are there forever but when you are one of favorites you are also there forever. He always wins Ill tell you that much.
My roommate has TJ and currently has a torn labrum he discovered a couple yrs after leaving. We had a lot of in and out due to transfers and the price of UD.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interesting
he made some…INTERESTING decisions to say the least over the last year, and they have had an absolute ton of arm injuries over the last year as well (3+ who needed TJ i think and another 2+ who had rotator cuff issues)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We had
the best school pitching coach ever in Brandon Smith while i was there. My old roommate just had awful mechanics and was overused. Guess who he used to work with? Mike Bacsik ha.
Blackmon adheres to a certain style of pitching mechanics i dont agree with. He is an excellent hitting coach but he has always needed a strong pitching coach with him.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
interestinga
that makes sense actually now
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am also
very biased because the way i really learned pitching was from Ray Burris and working with him on the side. Totally different way of approaching pitching. Now mind you, i dont have perfect movement but i also have never had an arm injury and he increased my velocity by about 8-12%. My pitching coach at UD had a similar view.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
you went from how many MPH to how many?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In high school
i didnt throw hard at all. Serioulsy sat 75-77. Got recruited by one JuCo that sucked and went there. Started working out a lot, gained another MPH on the fastball. Then started working Ray Burris full time and Coach Smith at UD. Dropped my arm angle and fixed a few mechanical things starting sitting in the low to mid 80s (touched 88 a few times one summer). So basically a 8%-12% increase. That is why i HATE cookie cutter approaches to pitching. There are certain fundamentals that everyone needs to adhere for safety and effectiveness but other than that everyone is different.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nice
interesting
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's a nature vs nurture argument there.
Technically speaking everyone is the same until muscle memory is built up and the stress of pitching causes structural changes. Even then, the human body is still going to behave the way everyone else’s does (without regard to metabolism).
If you’re brought up to throw side-arm, you’ll probably always throw harder from there. That said, if you had been brough up as an over-the-top pitcher, you probably would have had a higher peak velocity and better health.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Technically speaking everyone is the same until muscle memory is built up
so they are the same until they are like 12?
i REALLY disagree that there should be a cookie cutter approach to pitching
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Cookie cutter" isn't the right way to approach it.
The human body begins to differentiate/adapt/adjust/reform as soon as muscle activity increases. The body responds to stress/activity by getting stronger.
Nearly 100% of untrained throwers will throw exactly the same way. They haven’t trained to throw, so their bodies are doing as little as possible to accomplish it while joints move naturally. This is the definition of mechanical efficiency.
Trained throwers put large torques on their shoulders and elbows because they’ve taught themselves to throw inefficiently and/or unnaturally. The act of training builds the muscle memory and causes the structural changes.
Obviously, the longer you throw like this the more natural it feels and the harder it is to correct injurious flaws.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
is this why the tigers (i think)
were interested in and signed those two guys from india who threw 90+?
or would that be a reason to sign them (no experience throwing) ?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
pittsburgh
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those guys were trained by Tom House.
They don’t have the fitness that comes with years of training.
That’s an awful combination from an injury-risk perspective.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
here is the story
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2008/baseball/mlb/11/24/pirates.indians.ap/index.html
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was brought up throwing about as over the top as possible however
my arm action seem to suggest that a low 3 quarters arm slot was more natural. Basically, i had a really long arm motion in back and then forced my arm over the top. Burris was big on putting emphasis on feet, fingers, and neck. Have solid foundations there and everything else will fall into place. There more is to it of course but would be a lot to type.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 1:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Arm action shouldn't determine arm angle.
The tilt of your shoulders should determine that.
by NoNameOnCard on Jun 17, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It didn't start off as schtick
But at this point I think he thinks he’s either enjoying providing the LSB community with fresh cannon fodder every so often, or he thinks he’s annoying the LSB community by providing them with fresh cannon fodder every so often.
I’m not really sure which it is, but either way it’s fine with me. I love good cannon fodder as much as I love a good article on scap loading.
by JimBonnick84 on Jun 17, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
But once again you prove me right Jon. Have you posted that dino pic yet? Make sure to get on that.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I gotta be honest
Although I am a firm believer in the power of the dino pic, and I respect Jon for posting them….
I do like the “Have you posted a dino pic today?” bit.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Jun 17, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think a comedian would be a better outlet for him than minor league blogger, actually.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 17, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah maybe one of those
angry at the world/cynical types like Dennis Leary.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't you mean Bill Hicks
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You're probably right.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Jun 17, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't want to believe in a world where this is not schtick.
It would just be too depressing.
by naropean on Jun 17, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get it..
So when a horse goes to the bathroom, it “crops on the farm.”
So, you named your “crops on the farm” because it’s a steaming pile of horseshit?
by cmkelly29 on Jun 17, 2009 11:15 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
This made me laugh
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just curious
Do you ever proofread or spell check anything? Apparently, the Rangers drafted Nick McBride AND Nick McBridge. Excellent work slipping that one by MLB.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think if he tried to spell check his articles
the spell check would cause his computer to explode.
by naropean on Jun 17, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
finnerty isnt usually the one who had the spelling problems and grammer issues
that was the other dude that quit writing for them
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you are talking about
the Great Ron Spellman.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-finerty.fan
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, the irony of his name
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 18, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oMg liek totally awesome site, brah
reallycreativescreenname back in DA hizzouse!!!!
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Jun 17, 2009 12:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
ps
Please bring Ron Spellman back
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Jun 17, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's working for Lucas,
or is it the other way around?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's Lucas' ghostwriter
He writes all the farm reports and then Lucas sends them out under his name without giving Spellman any of the credit.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When we throw 170 comments his way...
by ghostofErikThompson on Jun 17, 2009 1:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sad but true
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I applaud crops
for inspiring stimulating discussion on this Site.
I’m reccing this post because of all the people who have posted their thoughts here.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-finerty.fan
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just prefer...
Sharky came back.
Finnerty is a mere specter in the presence of the true greatness that Sharky is/was.
by ghostofErikThompson on Jun 17, 2009 1:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Definitely was
Sharky hasn’t been able to bring the true insanity for years.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-finerty.fan
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 1:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sharky
Where is that crazy little dude these days? I still have a quote of his as my sig…
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think the Rangers success
give him nothing to bitch about. Then again, I don’t think he has watched the Rangers for the last few years.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-finerty.fan
by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He'll show up when the Cowboys resume
by tyd3311 on Jun 17, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought maybe
His head exploded when Obama got elected.
I had a lot of fun picking apart his election predictions that he claimed he didn’t make last year. The search function on this site is awesome.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Bu-bu-bu, Thompson is the front runner .."
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by Chase Irwin on Jun 17, 2009 5:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm following your lead and giving a rec
I’d also like to say that Finnerty makes better arguments than many of the posters on this site IMO.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 17, 2009 1:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A better argument would be to just say his gut told him so
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 1:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
CJ told me so
He’s so dreamy. Isnt that right Gdawg?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course that's right
Please enlighten us some more with your brilliant knowledge of players you’ve never heard of.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you even like CJ?
there’s like a 50-50 chance that you are using the pic sarcastically
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it
He probably thought CJ was his friend because he posted on this site and they once stood next to each other at a Guitar Hero douche off. Bonds are bonds I guess.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Douche off?
Can’t say I’ve been to one of the Guitar Hero contests yet.
Enough about me. You’ve got a blog!!! Tell me more about your wonderful opinions. Please, inform me who is too short to ever do anything. After all, you’ve got a blog and that clearly shows how smart you are.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are right
I do have a blog. Good call. Did ab03 help you figure that out or did the link at the top give it away?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is starting to remind me
of when Molly Ringwald implored Judd Nelson to “Stop”.
Well, except she was doing it for his sake.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, he sent me an e-mail about it
He also told me about this thing called spell check, and the 4th grade.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a douche off?
since when is raising money for charity a douche off?
by amr512 on Jun 17, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When CJ is involved
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, that pretty much sums it all up.
You are so, pure, greatness. You should ’blog" more often
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jun 18, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There are people on here who just dislike C.J.
because he has extracurricular activities (twitter, facebook and his charities). Apparently, this makes one a douche.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 18, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Being a douche makes one a douche. Your explanation for my categorization of CJ is rather simplistic. I think what CJ does with his own time is his business. However, when you constantly draw the ire of your contemporaries for opening your mouth when you shouldnt and by acting like a hypocrite in regards to your straight-edge lifestyle, then yes, you are being a douche.
There are also people on this board who like CJ because he decided to post here and because some find him attractive to the eye. Apparently, that makes one a fan.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so have you ever actually talked to him?
or are you just assuming he’s a douche based on the fact that he attempts to be involved in the community and to actually help out the fans that support him, as well as people who truly need help.
However, when you constantly draw the ire of your contemporaries for opening your mouth when you shouldnt…sound a little familiar?
by amr512 on Jun 18, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weak
Yes, this is all just assumptions based on the fact that he attempts to be involved in the community and helps people in need. Are you serious?
Yes, it sounds familiar. Perhaps I’m a douche. What does that have to do with CJ being one as well?
Jesus, great job here. You make me look like Niels Bohr.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what?
I was about to write a well thought out response, but i realized it simply wasn’t worth it. You have yet to make a logical argument.
So have fun writing a blog that seems to only care about people who think its good, which I have yet to find.
Peace
by amr512 on Jun 18, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Probably better this way
You arent in my league.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm a CJ fan
Not anymore so than some of the other guys on the team, but I definitely root for him.
I use that pic because last year I had Cat with his stache as my pic for all of the season. I wanted a new pic for this season and then there was CJ sporting a hilarious mustache.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
plagiarism is a tough thing to live down
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never plagiarized
Wrong guy. I guess that doesnt mean much to a guy like you though.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you understand that when your attached to someone who does plagerize
it KILLS your reputation as a writer
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 17, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His reputation as a writer was killed the moment he started writing
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 17, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clever
Keep it up. I never tire of your effortless sentence structure and word choice. Consider me a fan.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really dont mean
to stick my nose in this or anything but you have very little room to talk when it comes to diction and grammar.
by Michael Cave on Jun 17, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to a guy like me?
what kind of guy is that?
and your site plagiarized. are we going to split hairs?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never plagiarized. Ever
When I found out about the plagiarism I dealt with it quickly. We might not have the quality of LSB but we our work is going to be original. It was a scar on our site but most people seem to have accepted my response to it and have dropped. You obviously have not. That’s the type of guy you are.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 17, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nobody forgave you, dumbass
how is that not obvious to you? i like your friend better who at least had some sense of self awareness. but it isn’t as much fun talking to a guy like that. talking to you though is like playing the astros.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 17, 2009 7:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure they have
I’ve received a few emails and a few cool posts suggesting as much. I dont care what you think. THose people who reached out to me took a step forward. They realized that I never used someone else’s words and they were kind enough to give me some thoughts on how to improve the site. They werent rude about it and they showed class. The words werent always easy to hear but I know I have a long way to go.
Talking to me cant be like playing the Astros. I think what you meant to say was talking to is like when you and Gdawg were studying for your GED. It was a hard process and it didnt really work out for you guys, but hey, at least you tried. Message boarders cant take that away from you, right? You keep at it. Maybe one day you can join me in Community College. I’m on the ten-year plan. Want some aspirin? Want to make a phone call? The World is Mine!
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The grammar along makes it impossible to read
We might not have the quality of LSP but we our work
….?
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jun 18, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never said LSP
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C-Wun on the Ticket
He’s tall.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You know this is schtick
When in his own poll he puts in an option of “Go away Crops”. Pretty sad actually that he has to come over here just to get hits to the site. You would think the body of work would bring people over. Very sorry for the little, old man
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jun 17, 2009 2:57 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
stop giving this guy hits
cmon LSB
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jun 17, 2009 3:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No one else can turn LSB into 4chan quite like Crops
That’s an accomplishment.
Kind of.
by Keynes on Jun 17, 2009 3:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This Reminds Me
…of the time, like maybe a week or so ago, that I puffed out my chest and created an MLBlogs blog to rival the stupidness of Crops. I haven’t been back since that day. Have others carried on in my absence (I e-mailed the password to anyone who wanted to write)?
by Black Francis on Jun 17, 2009 5:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What's the addy?
And why haven’t you made a fanpost declaring your greatness? How many of those mlb blogs are there, seems like millions.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 6:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those millions of mlb blogs
are starting to run off good people.
Like Adam J. Morris.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by Chase Irwin on Jun 17, 2009 7:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Facetiousness
with a slight nod toward the recent Hicks discussion re: “running off good people, like Doug Melvin.”
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by Chase Irwin on Jun 19, 2009 9:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's
I actually made a new post on it today, but it’s not even worthy of a fanshot. It’s probably not worth mentioning in this comment. But it’s there.
by Black Francis on Jun 19, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I laughed
some good stuff on there.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 19, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
T'was sort of forgotten about for a spell
…as you can see.
I guess Finnerty probably saw it in this thread and got hold of the ratings.
You can contribute if you want. That blog will take all comers. Only requirement is to make an effort to be either stupid or funny.
by Black Francis on Jun 19, 2009 7:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Nice try. It must suck to be so unoriginal. Keep it up.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 20, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt that
You have no idea what you are up against. The fact that you think you do makes you foolish.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 20, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finnerty fanned.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 21, 2009 7:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a good fake interview with Guillermo Moscoso halfway done
That I intend to to post there.
by Keynes on Jun 17, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How teeny was he in person?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very skinny. And old.
But all his talk about killing dinosaurs and dancing with Adam Fox’s girlfriend distracted me from his teeny-ness.
by Keynes on Jun 17, 2009 8:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry
It is to badd that people hera t Lonestarball.com cant be nice to someone who works so hard to write about good stuff for rangers fans on his own new websight like James at Crops on the Farm does. I wish poeple can be supportive. I know that once there was a time that lonestarball.com was new and the peoplle on other sights like Jamie Newburg didn’t try to talk bad about lonestarbball.com all of the time like you do about Crops on the Farm all the time. I told myself that I would not come here anymore because peolle are rude but I am dumb and I have to stick up for James because he is my friend.
by RonSpellman on Jun 18, 2009 7:20 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Thank you for stopping by.
Do you all know each other in real life? Go to the same high school or whatever?
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan
by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 8:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is just heaven for you I bet
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 18, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs