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Richard Justice: Rangers are better than Astros

Houston Chronicle columnist Richard Justice has a blog entry up at the Chronicle website, contrasting the situation with the Rangers (who have been bad for some time, but who are currently in first and well-positioned going forward) with the Astros (who have been good for a long time, but who are currently not in good shape).

It is an interesting read -- Justice is very critical of Tom Hicks, whom he blames for the Rangers being bad for the past decade, and has a lot of praise both for Jon Daniels and Nolan Ryan. 

And there are a ton of comments on there, which are kind of amusing, and which boil down to either:

1)  The Rangers are always in first in June, and then fade down the stretch because it is hot in Arlington, or

2)  The Rangers are only good because True Astro Nolan Ryan took over.

There's also this exchange in the comments:

Richard: Who has more authority now in Arlington, Daniels or Nolan Ryan? It appears that all Daniels got for his good work was a demotion.


[Nolan is the boss. Jon now has a boss that understands and appreciates the good work he's doing.--Richard]


I think that pretty well sums up the front office situation in Texas right now.

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Hicks

:)

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

heh

I’ll be at the nearest ledge

by octoberty on Jun 17, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

According to the author Hicks gets the blame for bad decisions made by those he hires and gets no credit for good decisions made by those he hires.

by northtexan95 on Jun 17, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 1:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hicks has done a lot of stupid things

and he’s said even more stupid things, but he usually gets harangued by fans for pretty much the wrong things (he’s cheap!!!). I do not question Hicks’ desire to win. Who wants a loser? He may not have understood how to build a winner at first, but that doesn’t mean he had no intention of winning.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

agree

Justice has no idea what he’s talking about…he’s basically going by the ‘popular’ belief on this…

usa

by Longhorn on Jun 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is there anyone you don't agree with that isn't a clueless boob?

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 17, 2009 4:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

No

And if you look back to his post from February 2005, he was right about this before anyone.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Jun 17, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

right on cue

where there’s dumb, there’s dumber…

never fails.

usa

by Longhorn on Jun 17, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ha ha

Hilarious.

There you go, Tedd, we are hereby wholeheartedly refuted! With extreme prejudice!!

FYI, wonderboy, if you are gonna call somebody dumb, you might yearn to better understand the english language you be using and such. Cuz, I think the word you be looking for is, at least among all but the ignoramescenti, is QUEUE, not cue, but you carry on you big-brained baseball prognosticator, you.

I think JD reads LSB.

[longhorn, semi-direct descendant of Nostradamus, and erstwhile international ladies manpimp]

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 17, 2009 9:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wrongo; it's cue...

A queue is a line or ordered list. A cue is a signal to do some thing, as in “he entered the stage right on cue”

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 18, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Queue

can also be used in the manner Brian suggested.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 18, 2009 1:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Bah

Two different drama professors I had definitively claimed that cue was a theater bastardization of queue, and a useless one to boot, but the series of tubes aren’t backing me up.

I humbly concede the point that cue has come to be acceptable in the manner Nostradamus used.

Score one for the soothsayer.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 18, 2009 3:58 PM CDT up reply actions  

ah Longhorn

Don’t you go changing.

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Jun 17, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's really just absolutely stupid at this point.

But these are fun times to hate the rich guy and “evil CEOs” and bankers and what not, so on we go…

Hicks made a lot of errors early in his Rangers ownership days, but they were errors of spending way too much money on the wrong players.

Determined to win, he stepped back, reassessed, made some great hires, and put in place a team that has made some excellent moves that have put the Rangers in one of the best spots they have ever been.

by Texas_Dawg on Jun 17, 2009 7:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Astros

Look like they are going to suck for a long time. They might have been to a WS but just wait when the Rangers win it in a few years they will have nothing left in their big bag of shit.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 1:38 PM CDT reply actions  

If they wanted to, they can turn it around pretty quickly

They have some pretty valuable players and even a couple of good-looking young players in Pence and Bourn, the owner is willing to spend money, and the fanbase is still quite energetic. Problem is that if they don’t change their ways, when Berkman, Lee, Oswalt, and Tejada reach the end of their roads, things can get ugly in a hurry.

by Telegraph on Jun 17, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

the problem is that those "pretty valuable players"

are well-paid and have no-trade clauses.

Even if McLane wanted to have a fire sale, his hands are tied with Oswalt and Berkman. Lee’s contract is bad and he’s a DH only at this point.

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by willamos2 on Jun 17, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt

That ship isn’t turning around any time soon.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

I have to think....

if the got rid of either Oswalt or Berkman they could get a pretty big haul. Tejada might have some value if they’d eat the rest of his deal.

by bdavison94 on Jun 17, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hard to say they'd get a "pretty big haul"

Berkman is owed $14.5 next year, and Oswalt is owed $31 over the next two. That’s a ton of money in the current climate, which means only the “usual suspect” rich teams would get in on the bidding.

However, Boston might be a good fit for Berkman’s bat. Their cupboard is fairly bare other than the pitchers they won’t move.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Lars?

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's at least a year away, struggling while repeating AA

So, they may have a need at either 1B or RF, depending on what they do with Youk and how long Drew holds up.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reddick

his arm will play in RF. And he’s starting to hit now in AA (.904OPS).

Again, the cupboard is not bare.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

I stand corrected...

That would seem to strike BOS from the list of suitors.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

$31M

for Oswalt doesn’t sound that bad to me. It’s not great but for a frontline starter (if he still is one) that’s about right. Lowe got 15M per right?

Berkman at $14.5 and 7ish this year is a steal to me. I really think if the Astros would put them out there (they won’t) the return could jump start that farm. Just my opinion and this isn’t exactly my area of expertise.

by bdavison94 on Jun 17, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'd argue that some of those guys are already nearing the end of their roads..

That team has maybe a two year window to reverse course, then it’s Expos-bad for a while.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 3:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah that's Houston for you

just when it looked like the Rockets would come along and save the day, Yao gets hurt AGAIN, T-Mac’s done, Artest will walk and “we suck again!” but hey at least they got out of the 2nd round.

The Astros are going nowhere. Slowly.

The Texans, a lot of people’s “sexy picks” to win 10+ games and go to the playoffs this year, will not win 10 games. Sorry.

As rough as it’s been being a Cowboys/Mavs/Rangers/Stars fan around here, I wouldn’t wish being a Houston fan on any of you…not even Josey Wales

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 17, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Texans will however

probably have a record as good or better than the Cowboys.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't see how

but I was proven overly optimistic last year. We’ll see.

I honestly think a healthy Felix Jones and optimizing Martellus Bennett’s talents will do wonders for this team’s offensive flow, and it’s just up to the defense to maintain consistency

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 18, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think they have much

 in the way of a passing game, so hopefully the running game picks up.

Maybe Wade and Jason got brain transplants in the offseason, and I just didn’t hear about it.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions  

Bennett and Witten in the middle of the field

is going to be a match up nightmare.

If we can pound the rock and hit those two on the intermediate routes, I could give a damn who they trot out at WR. Roy Williams is a possession receiver, even. No need to “stretch” the field — just control the clock.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 18, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're so wrong about the Cowboys, its funny

I do see the Texans being going 10-6 +/-1, but the Cowboys are 12-4 +/-1

by octoberty on Jun 18, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions  

Good luck with all that.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

I could see the Cowboys jelling and going 11-5, or...

I could see that offense averaging 13 points a game on 150 yards passing.

It’s going to be a interesting year.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 18, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

+1

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 18, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was

so awesome last year.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions  

Felix Jones, healthy Romo, healthy Barber, healthy Witten

Another year of experience for Martellus, a long offseason for Roy and Romo to get on the same page.

It’s all about the offensive line, it’s the only thing that can hold us back. And injuries, obviously.

by octoberty on Jun 18, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Led by Tony Romo and Jason Garrett

it’ll just be fantastic, especially when its money time in December.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah,

I heard you were going to the last Super Bowl about this time last year.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

that you

should be the Cowboys. Nothin but Super Bowl talk last preseason.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

pffft

They need to replace coaches and QB before they have a championship core.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh

I will say that the last couple of weeks of last year did put some doubt in my mind concerning Romo. His record in December or playoff fumble don’t really bother me, though, like some. I have seen too much good. If he returns as the quarterback he was 2 years ago and to start last year, then he is the least of my worries.

by octoberty on Jun 18, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I think Romo

is more interested in being a celebrity than he is in being a QB.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan

by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

A good comment....
If the Rangers blueprint includes acquiring pitching until they think they have enough, and then getting more - or in other words, not skimping on pitching - then yes, they have a better blueprint than the Astros.
Funny when you think about it. For years the Rangers built their team around offense and it got them nowhere. Now they are focusing more on pitching and winning. For years the Astros have been competitive because they had solid pitching. In the last few seasons Drayton and the Astros have focused on building around the offense and now they are looking up from the same basement the Rangers used to always inhabit.

I like this…

by Big50 on Jun 17, 2009 1:41 PM CDT reply actions   2 recs

Astros and Hicks

I was looking at the Astro’s roster last night. On their current roster there’s 5 players born later than 1979. The youngest player was born in 1983. In contrast, the Rangers have 16 players on their current roster born after 1979.

by northtexan95 on Jun 17, 2009 1:42 PM CDT reply actions  

Astros best player under 30

might be Hunter Pence after that….

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

It was Darin “Is he still playing?” Erstad who got me thinking about the Astro’s roster. With a line of .117/.182/.167/.348 I guess you can’t really call it playing.

by northtexan95 on Jun 17, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

LOL!

According to FanGraphs, he’s been worth -1.1 wins this year. He’s played 39 innings at first base.

What the hell is wrong with that franchise?

by jwiscarson on Jun 17, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

The whole
He ran off good people like Doug Melvin

absolutely wears me out.

The Rangers sucked through the ‘00s to a large extent because of Doug Melvin’s failures as a GM to build a farm system. The best player from that era was Teixeira, and the Rangers got him because Tom Hicks was willing to pay much more than other owners. Everyone knew that Teixeira was the best player in the draft at that pick.

Thank God Hicks ran him off. JD has already build a much better organization than Melvin has, and Melvin inherited a whole lot more Major league ready talent. Its a damn shame we had to go through the Hart era, but it was almost worth it to dump Melvin.

"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-finerty.fan

by DJCahill on Jun 17, 2009 2:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Please don't remind me of the Hart era.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

And let's be honest

If not for Tom Grieve’s drafting and player development, Melvin might not have had the success he did have. Grieve built those teams, Melvin just added a few pieces to put them over the top and into the playoffs.

Tom Grieve = most underappreciated GM in club history

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
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by WestTxAg06 on Jun 17, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

And now we all hope that Daniels

can combine the best attributes of Grieve’s tenure with Melvin’s ability to go get the necessary pieces to get to the playoffs.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hahaha
Its a damn shame we had to go through the Hart era, but it was almost worth it to dump Melvin.

Well said, DJC.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

I posted this when I read this yesterday
think the major difference that everyone so far has missed is not Daniel’s trades but instead of how much Hicks is willing to spend on the procurement of young talent through the draft and on the international market. One of the major downfalls to the Astros system has been the pulling out of the Latin American market and the teams unwillingness to invest significantly in the draft.


The Texas minor league system is littered with young Latin American kids with significant upside. Kids like Font, Perez, Boscan, and Poveda would all be top 5 prospects in the Astros system are fighting for recognition in a very deep system. This years top 20 Latin American prospects have Texas linked in talks to roughly half of them, the Astros just 1.


Add to that huge yearly haul in Latin America the Rangers willingness to go over slot on a regular basis. In the last 2 drafts the Astros have gone over slot 5 times. Comparatively the Rangers have gone over slot at least double that number in the same time frame. The same arguments can be said about the level of talent that Texas drafts in the first round this year. Both Purke and Scheppers will take a significant finical investment to sign. Anyone expect Texas not to sign them? Same with the 2008 draft. Would the Astros have been willing to pay Smoak 3.5M price tag and still gone over slot on the players they did in 08? We will never know. What we do know is that Texas was unphased by the price tag and added a premier bat to an already deep system.


This is not meant to be a knock on the Astro’s franchise, but instead a window into why Texas has rebuilt so quickly. Texas lived through the slow and painful time of having to dispose of their high end salaries and right now are dealing with the up and down problems of a youthful team. What is needed now by the Astro’s is to reinvest some of the resources that are currently tied to a very top heavy MLB roster and spread it through out the system

and not surprisingly it was pretty much ignored by the Astro’s fan… I understand what it means to be a die hard fan of a team, but some times realism has to take the place of blind faith and homerism. I feel bad for the Astros. They have a very top heavy aging team that the owner does not want to dismantle, a passionate yet unrealistic fan base and a horrible minor league system with very few true high end prospects.

JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook

by laxtonto on Jun 17, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't feel bad for them at all

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Me Either

Houston can just go ahead and eat themselves an entire bowl o’ dicks.

by FuturePants on Jun 17, 2009 2:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

JJT's quote comes to mind

“Nobody obsesses about the Rangers.”

Except that’s my first thought about the Astros.

I guess they do well based on the WS appearance? The ballpark? Both getting a little shopworn, of course…

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jun 17, 2009 2:15 PM CDT reply actions  

the comment about how if the Rangers won the WS this year, they still wouldn't trade the Astros history for the Rangers'

it got me thinking, would you rather have had a successful 12 year run with one WS appearance but no wins a horrible 12 year run with one WS win?

by texasraider on Jun 17, 2009 2:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Give me the WS win baby

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 17, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

I like consistently good teams

And “trading history” is not even on my radar. It’s a complex sport composed of around 300 variables, and situational play and matchups have been more prominent in championship play, so get a ton of attention. But I love the long seasons, the abundance of games, and the competition for a division, a league, then the WS. I’ll take sustained high quality of play on the field, and “hope” for winning some of the postseason crapshoot if my team qualifies.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jun 17, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

I say this every so often

The Rangers have been horrible for most of my lifetime (barring the late ’90s and a few scattered years otherwise).

They’ve only been a boring team maybe two or three years of that time. I think in the late ‘80s when I started pay a lot of attention the Rangers weren’t that exciting, but even then guys like Incaviglia, Oddibe, and Sierra provided some intrigue. Then the Rangers started upon two decades of Nolan, Gonzalez, Pudge, Canseco, Palmeiro, the playoff years, Palmeiro, ARod, Teixeira, and now the current crop of Rangers. A few years in there were painful (I think 2000 was my worst year as a Rangers fan), but most have at least had some intrigue.

In contrast, the Astros have rarely been bad in the ways the Rangers have. I went to many ‘stros games at the end of the Astrodome era and the beginning of Enron Field. They were a very good team, with the Killer B’s and the rise of Oswalt, etc. Finished in 1st place in 4 of the 5 years I lived in Houston. They bored me to death. Look at some of the players on those teams.

Obviously we want our teams to do well. But given the choice between a boring team with moderate success or a fun, exciting team that has some ups and downs, give me the latter.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 17, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

teaches me to use ""

supposed to say …

it got me thinking, would you rather have had a successful 12 year run with one WS appearance but no wins – or – a horrible 12 year run with one WS win?

by texasraider on Jun 17, 2009 2:20 PM CDT reply actions  

I was going to say the same thing.

Get your facts straight, Dave Einsel. Or at least your subjects.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2009 3:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Wow

Hicks- He gets yelled at for trying to win but doing it the wrong way, is there so much wrong with that?

Daniels- Doesnt get credit for anything, not even the turn around

This is our year.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c

by FormerLSBUser on Jun 17, 2009 2:34 PM CDT reply actions  

isn't it a little premature to call it a turn around?

if this team under performs july/august/september, is everyone going to remember the 2 game lead in mid june?

by sam in so cal on Jun 17, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if that happened

it wouldn’t change the overall outlook of the team in the near future much. The defensive improvement and growth of young players, more prospects on the way, a clearer picture of how to make the team a better contender in 2010.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 17, 2009 3:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Even if the team fades...

It will likely be a case of just not being “quite ready”. It seems poised to build on the early success next year.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 3:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

so what exactly has turned around at this point?

our potential future absent misfortune, injuries, under performance, realization that can’t miss prospects have missed, or a myriad of other possibilities that might impede the franchise from attaining something that is certainly no certainty?

to me, there’s no turn around yet, so giving anyone credit for “the turn around” would be premature.

by sam in so cal on Jun 17, 2009 4:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Sigh... some folks just want to be downers cuz they think it's cool..

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jun 17, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

There's a couple of them...

Sam in So Cal, Texas-Dawg, Josey.

I mean, it’s not like any teams lately have come out of nowhere to go deep in the playofffs with a youth movement.

"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin

by benmor78 on Jun 17, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ya

I absolutely will… in a second

This is our year.

http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c

by FormerLSBUser on Jun 17, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

Well I hope those cocksmokers are the laughing stock of the NL forever.

I will never forgive those limp dick faggots for claiming my area as their tv territory. Die Astros,die!!!

by TooLegitToQuit on Jun 17, 2009 3:49 PM CDT reply actions  

Yikes, dude.

Like, I don’t particularly care for the Astros, but…wow. Tone it down a little.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Jun 17, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

They have tvants and stuff, dood.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon

Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.

by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

The Astros, The?

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Nice

So why does he have a tattoo that says “Die Bart, Die”?

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 17, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

OT: Giants up over the Angels

2-1 Bottom of the Fifth.

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"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jun 17, 2009 4:02 PM CDT reply actions  

3-1 Bottom of the 7th

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

With a nice...

Will Clark sighting. I miss Will the Thrill.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Is he still fat?

Last time I saw him, he looked like Chris Berman’s twin brother.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jun 17, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

I wouldn't call him svelte...

but he didn’t look too terrible.

Now they’re talking about the excitement of having Omar Vizquel back in town. They love their Omar.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

3-2...

LAA has runners on 2nd and 3rd with nobody out. C’mon Lincecum… throw something nasty.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

You gotta be shitting me.

They better not beat Lincecum.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 17, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions  

getting worse

3-3… runners on the corners. nobody out.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

Great job of pinch hitting...

by Hunter and Vlad.

4-3 LAA. 2 out. Runner on 3rd.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

god damnit

4-3 angels fuck me

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by studcrackers on Jun 17, 2009 4:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

3-4-5 coming up for SF...

let’s hope they can regain the lead.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

3-4-5 might mean something

when discussing most teams but only sandoval is worth a shit, winn and molina are in the lower batting order on a good team

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by studcrackers on Jun 17, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

and now sandoval walks

after molina and wnin are retired on 4 pitches

2 outs lets schierholtz

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by studcrackers on Jun 17, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

excuse me

aurilla pinch hitting

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by studcrackers on Jun 17, 2009 4:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

GREAT AB

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

and now

the lefty ishikawa being removed for rowand

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by studcrackers on Jun 17, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who's glad we didn't...

spend 60 million on Rowand back in 2007?

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

i dont recall us

being particularly interested, especially compared to our interest in torii hunter

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by studcrackers on Jun 17, 2009 5:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

we were interested in a CF...

I’m glad our sights weren’t set on him.

"People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring."
-Rogers Hornsby

by Haeger Champ on Jun 17, 2009 5:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

IIRC

some here actually wanted Rowand because he was going to be cheaper and provided better “value.”

Yeah, I’m glad we didn’t touch him with a 10 Ft. pole.

¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!

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by inactive lsb user on Jun 17, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

I love listening to Jon Miller

Without Joe Morgan around.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 17, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

Jon Miller rocks

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

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by Brian Thomas on Jun 17, 2009 7:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

I thought I heard Miller say

that he worked with Nadel doing Rangers games way back when. I wish I could have heard that. That must’ve been some great Radio.

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by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 8:12 AM CDT up reply actions  

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