New Rangers Top 20
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 6:52 AM CDT
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The latest installment of my weekly ranking of the top 20 prospects in the Rangers’ farm system was posted this morning on the official Rangers website, www.texasrangers.com.
Here’s a direct link to the column:
Also, please note that the column is set up to allow fan comments at the bottom of the page.
(Please also note that I'm aware of the three mistakes. They weren't my doing. Trying to get them fixed.)
(Also, please don't let Finnerty see this. I don't want to get schooled.)
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Not even a mention of Bleier…
Main’s place on the list is starting to look genuinely weird. Has he been injured more often than healthy as a pro? 30, 40% of the time? I at least want to know what’s wrong with him right now.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 18, 2009 7:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
It's better news than I'd feared.
(And I probably shouldn’t have left Bleier off this time. Felt I needed to get MDLS in there.)
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 7:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a bad list
and btw you will never be as great as Crops on the Farm. Your list merely is a commentary on what happened, Finnerty’s list tells us what is GOING to happen :-). Im sorry Jamey, you may have met your match haha
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 7:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Main
Can you say any more about what’s going on with him?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 18, 2009 2:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its interesting to look at that list b/c while its been dissapointing to see some of the top guys
struggle, or just not utterly dominate, I think we may be even deeper this year than we where last year. Just looking at some of the players in the bottom half of that list, I think we may have some legitimate big leaguers in there. It will be interesting to see just how many true “prospects” we have to look after the season and get somewhat excited about. I like the development of Bianucci/smith/Moreland as viable corner OF in the future, that was something we had been lacking in.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 18, 2009 8:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
(Also, please don’t let Finnerty see this. I don’t want to get schooled.)
awesome.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 18, 2009 9:16 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
The Newberg with the zinger!
This get’s rec’d just for that.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 9:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Indeed
Cahill’s going to love that.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow on font
The South Atlantic League is hitting just .250 off Font, with only two home runs, and he’s set an impressive 44 hitters down on strikes in 39.1 innings, but he’s issued an unacceptable 30 walks.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 18, 2009 9:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we call him the Venezuelan Mitch Williams?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats not a bad career at all
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 18, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not at all
If you could guarantee me right now that Font has Wild Thing’s career, I’d probably take it.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamie
have you heard any scouting reports on Fabio Castillo’s stuff? Coming into the ‘08 season he had a plus FB/CB with sometimes nasty splitter, but reports were that he lost his feel for the curve, and it flattened out drastically. I’m glad you gave him some love, and I’ve been dying to hear a scouting report on his stuff this season.
by ramjam36 on Jun 18, 2009 9:59 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beltre, Moreland
Very disappointing the last couple of weeks. Every time I think he might be breaking out a little bit he slumps right back down.
I’ve long been driving the Moreland bus and I think he’s becoming a realistic candidate to be someone’s starting 1B or RF in the next year or so. A good trade chip if the Rangers don’t keep him. Part of me wants them to keep him just to have another guy with plate discipline in the lineup.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 18, 2009 10:47 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh, nothing, Fin.
Keep up the stalwart analysis. We crave it.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 14 recs
Right
The only thing you crave is attention. I guess if you are reaching down from your level to attack me then your level must be closer to the ground than it has been in the past. Not sure why you need to poke at me though. Just because you put out a top 20 list for the Rangers doesnt make it any good. No need to start flaming me.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
(Advice, LSBers: Do I need to quietly withdraw before pushing this further, cf. Josey?)
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a risky proposition.
Consult a thesaurus, this could be a tough one.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 18, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You won't get anywhere with him
If he hasn’t already gotten the message, the air isn’t coming out of his head anytime soon.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A fool is a fool...
the real question is how quickly do you become the fool by continuing to debate the fool…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
by laxtonto on Jun 18, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didnt ask to be in this debate
Mr. Newberg took it upon himself to fire an unprovoked shot at me in his post. I guess people missed that. I guess the great Newberg has enough credit to attack who he wants when he wants. All I did was counter that shot by firing one of my own at his top 20 list. I dont think the rankings are very good. Deal with it.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude
When Jamey Newberg thinks you should go home, you need to go home. Trust me on that. You’re just gonna dig yourself a deeper hole by attacking Jamey.
by JimBonnick84 on Jun 18, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anything in particular that you
don’t like about the rankings?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're missing the point here Jamey
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I only wish I knew what it was
:-(
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can't believe you really believe that
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 18, 2009 9:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh.
I can’t let this one slide. (Personality flaw, I guess.) I’m usually very, very good at not letting this stuff get to me, but not this time.
Fin, you seem to mean well. I actually kinda enjoy the subtle, sarcastic restraint in some of your posts on LSB. But your prospect evals are so offbase in most cases, not because your opinions themselves are whack (hey, I thought Dan Peltier would still be in the bigs today) but because your basis in almost every instance makes absolutely no sense.
I apologize to everyone else on this board for the comment at the end of my FanPost — I needed to get up to 75 words and make a bad choice. (Even D.A.Tron reacted in the spirit in which a similar comment was made a few weeks ago.)
I guess your assessment of it as an “unprovoked shot” shouldn’t surprise me, because you missed the point as badly as you miss on the significance of a player’s height and age and lord knows what other touchstones drive your exquisite prospect analysis.
I’ll give you this: I suspect AJM is a big fan, because in no time you’ve managed to trigger traffic diarrhea on his site every time you show up in a thread.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:24 AM CDT reply actions 6 recs
Jamey
Thanks for taking time away from your busy Jumbo-Tron segment filming schedule to explain why you decided to fire a shot at me. It is appreciated. I can see that we have different prospect guidelines and because of your stature in the community I dont have any cards to play. I like my rankings….do you like yours?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, I do, Fin.
I like mine very much.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks for taking time away from your busy Jumbo-Tron segment filming schedule
heh. I’m sorry, but I found this to be funny.
by tyd3311 on Jun 18, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he throws enough shit against the wall
some of it will stick, I guess.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 18, 2009 12:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't apologize for being right Jamey.
As you say, Finnerty can dish out the sarcasm – but if he can’t take it it’s not your fault. I like the snarky Jamey Newberg, myself – the you/dirkatron exchanges have been epic.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Epic. LoneStarJon. Epic.
You listed Miranda Lambert as a musician that you are a fan of. Miranda Lambert is what 12 year-old girls who also happen to like Nascar listen to. Calling her a musician is like calling you a Rhodes Scholar. Lambert is what sh*t would sound like if you mic’d it.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ran out of GIF lines, so now you're going to try and insult my taste in music, huh Finnerty?
How original and witty. Stay classy over there at Crops, you clever devil you.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lambert isnt music
Its an Olsen twin born in a trailer park.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK man, now you're just trolling
You can’t get at a guy one way, so now you’re gonna insult the chick he likes? Low, man. Low.
by JimBonnick84 on Jun 18, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
just like you are the results of many generations of inbreeding.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nothing beats
lovin like marrying your cousin ha
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In his dad's defense
It was a shotgun marriage
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for what its worth
im a big fan of lambert, shes hot and shes from real close to where i am from.
get over it.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 18, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Count me in the pro-Miranda crowd too
I don’t get the analysis that she sings songs for 12 year-old girls. Songs for 12 year old girls are the shallow pop trash of Taylor Swift, Carrie Underwood, etc. that fit into the hollow “feel good” subgenre or the overly sappy “feel sad/sympathetic” subgenre.
Miranda is actually a legitimate songwriter and musician who writes and sings real country music topics. This is because, unlike many of her contemporaries, she actually comes from a rural background, so she has the real-life experiences to back up her words. The fact that she does that AND is hot too AND is a Texan is a perfect combo in my book.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I appreciate the support guys, but don't bother debating that with Finnerty.
He’s just trollin’ me because I joined the long line of LSBers pissing all over his blog yesterday. It’s not exaclty a secret that I like Miranda, he’s just the first guy to stoop low enough to try and use it against me.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Admittedly, I wasn't supporting you as much as I was defending the honor of my future wife ;-)
Nobody badmouths Ran in my presence and gets away with in.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh.
Wait a minute… your future wife?
Of my dead body, pal. Pistols at dawn!
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your challenge is accepted
BTW, I’m currently listening to a live recording of Ran singing Rusty Wier’s “Don’t It Make You Wanna Dance”.
Pop country singers don’t even know who Rusty Wier is, much less sing his songs.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Geez, and I thought I had everything she's ever recorded.
Of course, considering that’s a live recording I suppose I technically still do.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found it on the interwebs somewhere (shh)
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know what you mean, heh.
I had Dead Flowers a month before it came out.
I don’t suppose you’d care to share?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Be happy to, I just emailed it to your gmail as a zip file
Let me know if that doesn’t work.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Awesome, thanks dude
Unfortunately I don’t have the time to open it and chuck it into iTunes right now, but I’ll let ya know.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 1:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds good
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finnerty
I can’t speak for everyone with regards to what they like in their prospect analysis reading but there seems to be a few trends that apply to the most respected ones.
1. People want tangible proof on any analysis that tells us that a prospect is good or not. This obviously means using numbers such as statistics. People have varying opinions on which statistics they think are the best but any argument better have some numbers to back it up.
2. People also like to know about the things that don’t usually show up in sabermetrics like mechanics, competitiveness, athletic ability, tools, etc. That data HAS to come from someone that has actually seen these players firsthand. Quotes from multiple scouts as well as actually going to see them in person yourself would help your arguments exponentially. Jason Parks was awesome at providing this for BBTIA.
3. People do not like spelling or grammatical errors. It does not take very long to re-read something you wrote for these errors and letting someone else read it before you post it to your website.
These are just trends that seem to be prevalent in the most respected of blogs.
These things may not be your style. It is your blog. You can do whatever you want with it.
We as a fanbase do crave prospect analysis from multiple sources to see which names to pay particular attention to when we look at the box scores on shroom’s calendar each day. We just like to have certain things present in that analysis
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Finnerty vs. Newberg (undercard)
Isn’t the Dr. Pepper Stars center in Frisco now holding boxing matches. What a great charity event it would be to get Finnerty vs. Newberg on the undercard.
by peachygbc_1 on Jun 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking just having Josey and Fin on the next Podcast could be golden gold.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Though potentially unfair, if not scarring, for Ted.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was just thinking of asking Ted
what were the odds of getting callins and also getting crops represented on a Podcast.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan
by DJCahill on Jun 18, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Totally
Honestly, I would bet that Josey Wales would own Finnerty. Yes he has his quirks but i at least think that Josey has a working knowledge of baseball. I believe him when he says he has been a Rangers fan for as long as he does.
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe if Will Carroll cancels on Newberg Report night, we can have Josey and Fin take Q&A in the museum as JD's undercard.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD can follow that up by explaining the club's long-term plans for Jared Hyatt
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
ONLY if
Newberg lets Josey introduce JD as Donuts ha
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
I would pay to see Josey call him Donuts to his face.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Someone YouTube that if it happens
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 18, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add Beau Vaughan in, too
He doesn’t even need to take a side.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 18, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
josey would never go for it
but i think i would pay money to hear it.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 18, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey wouldn't have the balls
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 18, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You better bone up on the "5 Step Plan," Chief...
You know, defining exactly how the Teixeira extension recommended by Donuts & Thadwick fit into this plan and exactly how much of it Tom Hicks bought.
Then there was the Hunter, Zito and Dice-K offers being balanced on a small market payroll as well…
We both know the ratings will be boffo and unprecedented – lemme know.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 18, 2009 11:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
random question
but were you in favor of signing zito/dice K or were you the one who thought it was a token offer (at least in the case of dice k)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 19, 2009 8:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't advocate signing Zito because I was worried about how the team
would be able to afford Tex & Young.
I had no opinion either way on Dice-K because I wasn’t sure what kind of major league pitcher he would be.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 19, 2009 9:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i still want stevoo vs miles somewhere
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 18, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, Josey Wales
you have been out
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 11:53 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Serious Question
Jamey, How do you view Mitch Moreland as a prospect? I am waiting until Beavan pitches in Frisco to go see Moreland and Smith for the first time as well.
by peachygbc_1 on Jun 18, 2009 11:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Biggest pleasant surprise of the season, offensively.
Whereas it appears Pina was just on a hot streak, Moreland appears to be a legit trade chip now….if not a player who could make someone else a trade chip.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And let me add...
…I liked what I saw out of him on the mound at Instructs.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Moreland
think we get a chance to see him pitch in relief at all? maybe in a blowout game?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
With that arm especially,
why is this player only thought of as a DH?
He’s getting OF reps in AA, but my impression is that’s not really serious.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 18, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks
I have been impressed from what I’ve read about him this year. Hope to catch him play in Frisco soon.
by peachygbc_1 on Jun 18, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think that other teams
are really buying into Moreland so to speak? Seems like he is the classic more value to us than to them type of guy..
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beholder situation.
Scouts get paid to assess the Mitch Morelands, not the Justin Smoaks.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of Davis, Moreland, and Smoak
How many do you see still with the club this time next year? Two of them or all three?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meaning somewhere in the org?
Three.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's what I meant, somewhere in the organization
Thanks.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
very, very true
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 18, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good pt
We need a DH and 1B. Seems like a nice insurance policy if CD and Smoak dont workout at that tandem. Ive been really impressed with how Moreland seems to command the strike zone. He doesnt strike out a lot for minor lg power hitter.
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yea, and by the sound of it, he makes good if not great contact going the other way (I think he hit a HR the opposite way the other night), doesnt strike out a whole lot
and judging by the amount of doubles, hits alot of line drives… We’ll see if that holds up the rest of the year.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 18, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just seems
to be the ultimate professional hitter. We are now getting to a pt where the rangers are going to have to make some tough decisions on who to keep and who to deal due to logjams at certain positions.
by Michael Cave on Jun 18, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jamey
Want to give a prediction of the next promotions through the system?
Probably happen after each leagues all-star games?
Obviously you think Bianucci is on the list. Who else?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 12:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow
short list.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Working on a pleading right now.
Would need to think about it some more.
Thinking about doing another email Q&A, incidentally. Haven’t done one since camp.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 18, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you think that Zach gets an extended look back in the rotation?
Did his recent pretty dominant start open any eyes?
I love what he’s done as a RP, and thats more than likely gonna be his way to the Majors, but as the saying goes make ’em a SP until they prove they cant do it.
Judging by Zach’s track record, it seems like he’s struggled in his first stints at a new level, but gets better and better with time. It will be interesting to see how long it takes him to master the AA level.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 18, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finnerty could've given me a better list than that.
Jamey, you have officially been replaced. :)
Finnerty what do you think? Who all gets promoted next? You can’t use Bianucci or Zach.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak
He will be in Triple A in a few weeks.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Finnerty needs to work on a pleading
like ignorance or the fifth
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 18, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well
Wieland was already in the list. Makes sense to me.
If Bleier maintains his peripherals another few weeks, I can see that one too.
Whether Perez (or even Boscan) moves up is a matter of managing workload.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 18, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the point?
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but it really isn't a quality stadium
scoreboard anymore. Now if it were a Yankee Stadium tpye of video board Finnerty woul dbe looking at 2 points.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 18, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This thread needs some Firebat
Where has that guy been lately?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 12:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He said something about finals
I think JD’s doing this to spite all the "when we gon’ get sum pitchin’ in here" idiots.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"~ RCCook.
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trying to inject Hawk Harrelson with a cocktail of cancerous cells?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gdawg is just looking
for others to fight his battles for him. Speaking of ab03…..
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
All cower beneath Finnerty. The man that took down The Newberg.
I am no match for your wit. Your mother/aunt raised you well.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep the mom/dad/cousin jokes coming
Your maturity seems to disintegrate in my presence. I like that. So what if my parents were brother and sister or cousin and cousin or whatever? Obviously that inbreeding didn’t affect my ability to outwit the likes of you. What does that say about you?
How does it feel to get owned by an ignorant inbred? It cant feel very good.
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
LMAO
Yes, you have completely owned me… What is this, 8 Mile? Making fun of yourself isn’t “owning” anybody.
pzwned foo
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, this is 8 Mile
and yes, I completely owned you. It’s embarrassing for you, I know. You continue to miss the point of most posts you reply to. Why is that?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 18, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really like this bit
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 18, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Firebat fights his own battles
Of course, he generally starts the battle.
No one on LSB is a match for the unadulterated rage that is Firebat.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 18, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Setting fire to
or killing someone or something, surely. I’ll search hospital lists for severe injuries to fingers while pounding the computer keyboard in anger. No, that does not mean I want someone to post that gif of the guy doing that.
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by t ball on Jun 18, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 18, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
man, you invited that one
ugh
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 18, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Main
Hasn’t done anything yet to prove he belongs in the top 5.
"I can wake up out of the bed and play outfield. It's easy." --Milton Bradley
by coolaid on Jun 18, 2009 1:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Gonna have to agree with you there.
Sad really but true.
It is a great thing to know the season for speech and the season for silence.
--Seneca
by bioaggie on Jun 18, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
gawd i hate to be a downer
but if that’s our top 20 prospects, we have taken a significant step back this year (at least from where we were last year and where I hoped we would be this year). Even the guys who have “graduated” have seen their value fall, so its not like we can play that card. Main has no business being in the top five of an elite farm system. We have oodles of intriguing young guys with lots of tools, but the results for many of them simply aren’t there yet. That could change quickly, though, and hopefully it will.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 18, 2009 3:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Andrus has seen his value fall?
And Der-Hol and Teagarden have, too?
I disagree.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 18, 2009 3:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stunning logic there, huh?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 18, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
care to explain?
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 18, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus
is the obvious exception. Derrick Holland certainly hasn’t seen his value increase with his 6+ ERA, although he hasn’t exactly bombed either. And Teagarden hasn’t seen his value rise with his scarce playing time and lack of a HR.
I didn’t include Harrison because I didn’t think he maintained his rookie status this year. Nor did I include Davis.
God forbid anyone say anything but the highest praise for our farm system.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 18, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No farm system
could have as many players graduate in such a short time and not suffer just a little bit. But I’d be surprised if they’re not still top 5. Still a ton of pitching talent.
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by t ball on Jun 18, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
imho a lot depends on what happens with
font, boscan, weiland, etc
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 19, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would also be surprised
if they finish this year outside the top five, especially if they sign their top draft picks. But they haven’t had many players make huge strides this year like they saw last year with many of their young pitchers and a few of their top hitters. Smoak has been great when healthy, and Moreland, Smith and Bianucci could be for real, but their glut of pitchers has been very up and down. Beavan is the only one I can think of offhand who has exceeded expectations, unless you count someone like Kirkman or Phillips.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 19, 2009 8:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That entire Hickory rotation is doing great
Maybe they are meeting some people’s expectations, but look at Perez, Boscan, Weiland, and Bleier. Font’s showing how dominant he can be though he definitely has to work on the control still. Brigham has also been great for the most part. Plus, there’s still a ton of depth throughout the system.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 19, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't give a flying fuck about people "insulting" our farm system.
I have a problem when people say ignorant shit.
(For instance: " have seen their value fall" and “hasn’t seen his value increase”… do you see the difference there?) (Cause there is one.)
I’d drop the persecution complex and the “Everyone is stupid but me” attitude, Clark-y boy.
It’s unbecoming on you.
Not like that sweater vest, which it looks like you were poured into. Rawr.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 19, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't feel persecuted at all
If I didn’t enjoy coming here and posting, I wouldn’t do it. And i wouldn’t post on here if I thought I was speaking exclusively with stupid people. I was just commenting that I feel our farm system has taken a small, yet significant step back so far this year, and that the players that have graduated, with the exception of Andrus, have not taken a step forward with their development, either.
And I usually get your jokes (and even enjoy some of them), but I don’t get that last line. I certainly didn’t mean to get you all hot and bothered.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 19, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thw sweater vest you're wearing in that photo where you're hugging that prostitute.
You look like you’re poured into it. (Meaning it fits you very well and makes you look sexy.)
It’s nice.
That’s all I was saying.
And, yah, the last line “God forbid anyone say anything but the highest praise for our farm system” that’s some haughty snark if ever I’ve heard it.
Also I like how you’ve backpedalled and now it’s a “Small but significant step back” as opposed to just a significant one.
Personally I disagree, but who cares!? I’m just a dumb-dumb who sits around clutching my blind love for Rangers prospects to my chest and face punching anyone who dares give them anything but the highest praise. (God forbid!)
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 19, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is this all because
I like Jonathan Safron Foer books?
I never took a shit on our farm. I do feel like they have taken a step back as a whole, but when you’re as highly regarded as we were this past offseason, that’s almost impossible to avoid.
Sorry for the snark. And that’s my wife that I’m hugging, so maybe I’m biased, but if she was a prostitute I wouldn’t be able to afford her.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
by clark on Jun 19, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beltre
Anyone think that some anti-ADD medication may be in order? I know the beginning of last year, the talk of Clinton was that he just didn’t have concentration. Yeah, he’s still young for the league, but not by too much.
Not trying to create a crutch, but really, these monthly splits are worrisome.
Rivalries aside, RIP Nick Adenhart 04/09/2009.
"if daniels was fired today, he would almost be sure to get another shot somewhere else as a GM
i dont know if you can say the same thing abotu RW" - knockoutking
by hillcrest on Jun 18, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
My main thought with Beltre
It may hurt his prospect status but leave him in A+ another year if necessary.
I mean, outside of a few weeks this season, obviously there’s nothing to base a promotion on so far anyway. But he’s young.
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 18, 2009 4:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beltre
I would like to know a few things.
First, hows his defense been? I know the Bakersfield park is weird and apparently Borbon was basically standing on 2nd base so he could go back on balls last year.
And second, how are his at bats? The kid led the Midwest league last year in hits so its not like he can’t put bat on ball. My main worry is instead of going up and swinging at the first thing he sees like last year he is doing like coaches are telling him and watching more go by. That leads to deeper counts and then more strikeouts and more defensive swings which may not lead to hits.
Admitedly i am a huge Beltre fan but without seeing him I can only hope that his numbers are the only thing bad right now but he is actually making progress. Hopefully he has a good second half to the season and then next year can start out in Frisco as still a young guy and in a couple years be in Arlington
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 18, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As always, I enjoyed Jamey's prospect list
But the comments in this post were entertaining. Fantastic.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 18, 2009 9:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder how Baseball America would rank our system at this very moment.
None of the teams is doing well. And several of the top prospects haven’t raised a ripple yet.
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
by TedFord on Jun 18, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Top 10 for sure
Probably top 5 still based solely on the sheer amount of talent we have
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 18, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're probably a little too caught up in numbers
they rank based on scouting, not just the performances. Feliz’s numbers don’t look great, but he’s still a top guy in anyone’s system, for example.
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by t ball on Jun 18, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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