Tuesday a.m. Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 2, 2009 9:27 AM CDT
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PrintRelatively quiet day in Rangerland...
Jeff Wilson writes that the Ranger players expect for this team to be a playoff contender, regardless of what those on the outside think.
Evan Grant takes a look at the accusations that Alex Rodriguez tipped pitches, with Miguel Tejada, Carlos Guillen, and Omar Vizquel appearing to be the opposing middle infielders who had the most success against the Rangers in blowout games. Grant also includes this interesting item, which I hadn't heard before:
Rangers manager Ron Washington, who was with Oakland at the time, was once called to a staff meeting because an A’s coach suspected Tejada was tipping pitches to opponents.
Washington listened to the accusations, then got up and left the meeting, even after being told to stay.
"That was all I needed to hear," Washington said. "I told them to back off that and leave it alone. When they didn’t, I got up and left. That stuff never happened. Miguel won way too many games for us for anybody to be thinking he was helping another guy do good against us."
Bob Sturm breaks down the splits for the rotation in the months of April and May...
Richard Durrett says that Mike Maddux is visiting the mound a lot during games, but it seems to be working...
Nothing official yet on the Josh Hamilton situation, but we are supposed to hear something today. Although the fact that he pinch hit on Sunday would suggest the team is hopeful he will avoid a d.l. stint, I have a sneaking suspicion that he's going to be put on the disabled list today, and Brandon Boggs will get called up.
While we obviously don't want Hamilton out of the lineup, Boggs' presence would help the Rangers when they face lefty starters, who they've struggled against thusfar.
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yankees suck
start your day with that
by Clownballoon on Jun 2, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Bitch Tits the Pitch Tipper
Hate to see Vizquel’s name drug into this, but the fact that Oakland suspected Tejada of doing the same seems to give some legs to the accusation.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
yeah.
seems like more of a reality. NOT happy to see Omar involved.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you actually read the article?
There’s no official proof that this happened (just speculation). And even if it did, there’s nothing linking Omar to it other than he hit really well against the Rangers in games where his team was kicking the Rangers’ butts.
So, a
Secret Society of Shortstops?
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
You know Jeets was getting the good stuff, too!
You don’t slumber party with a guy and then not tip him some juicy pitches next game!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
Home Run Derby
A few years ago before the home run derby, all the Dominicans got together in foul territory and were holding a DR flag and bouncing around with their arms around each other in a huddle. Up trots A-Rod, trying to join in with his DR “brethren” and nobody let him in the circle. Poor ARod.
I would pay to see a replay
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions
yea
we NEED a youtube
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions
huh
because he wanted to play for the DR?
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
thats my biggest problem
pick one
pick the other
dont flip flop btwn the two
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
it's not that simple
especially for someone with his background. if he chooses this country he upsets people, if he chooses that one, it could upset his fam…
not sure why he’s a ‘douche’ because of the decision he made on this…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
just adds to it
but the fact is that he SHOULD play for one or the other
if this was such a big thing now (to him or his family), why wasnt it the first time around?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
It's a difficult decision for sure, but...
Playing for one and then the other just screams of a desperation to try to please everyone.
If A-Rod wasn’t so caught up in trying to convince everyone to like him, he wouldn’t have near the P.R. issues that he does. Just play the game, be yourself, and let the chips fall where they may. Two great examples are two guys who were extremely different in personality. Ted Williams was an SOB, Stan Musial was as genuinely nice of a ballplayer as there ever was. Both of them are tremendously beloved and respected today because they were just themselves, nothing more and nothing less.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
It is that simple.
Born here. Earn your living here. He’s a US Citizen. I get that his family is Dominican and he lived there for a short time when he was a kid, but c’mon.
its at least understandable with the italian team, for example
but its not like the DR is exactly hurting for baseball playersand needs AROD to fill out the team
just pick one or ther other, its that simple
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Yeah, I s'pose
But I take it even farther than that. My parents were immigrants and while I may root for their home countries when other countries are involved, I am an American. I was born and raised here. This country has provided the opportunity for me so why would I pick a country of my parents?
Maybe if he had lived in DR for 5-10 years or something, but he didn’t. Just another reason why I’d love to punch him in the face…
i agree with most of what you said/say
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
I don't care who he plays for.
But why switch around? It just seems A Rod is trying desperately to be accepted by the DR dudes, and it seems…….awkward. Just like everything he does.
i saw it as him hedging his bets
The DR looked like the favorites, so he leaned DR.
Then there was some backlash against him switching sides, so he crawfished on back to the US.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
I seem to remember him going all wishy washy once the kitchen got heated
(and before surgery).
But if you remember differently, you are probably right. I spent little time following it.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
huh?
that makes no sense at all.
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
how does it make no sense
pick one or pick the other and go with that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
yeah.
you don’t get it.
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
Is there a way we can implicate David Stern in all this?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
He's too busy
making sure that LeBron James gets in the NBA finals.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
He tried. I only saw hi lights, but some of those calls on Lebron were pretty stupid. But it's not like they weren't prepping Dwight.
I told my friend who loves the Magic that as soon as I saw this I knew they had the only legit shot of any tam in the East at taking down Cleveland.
The NBA is pretty predictable.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
Like i've stated here before
Very good young black center with no visible tattoo’s is good for the NBA Cares. And there will be 2 of them in this series.
There's going to be a lot of caring in this series, damn ..
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions
The only thing predictable
is the NBA conspiracy theorists who will take any outcome, and claim it is part of the NBA conspiracy.
Easier to chalk it up to a tough game to officiate, and some bad officials.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
That's ultimately the problem with the NBA officiating..
The inconsistent nature of their officiating, from star calls to variations from official to official, game to game, and quarter to quarter, makes it an easy target for the grassy knoll crowd.
I’ve said it before, but only in basketball could a Tim Donaghy go unnoticed while he plied his craft.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I dunno, I think it could definitely happen in MLB with an unp behind the plate.
Squeeze one team just a bit and give the other team a little bit of a wide-zone.
Shit would be nigh unpossible to prove.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 2, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions
and i swear it happens all the time
teams like the yanks get a strike zone bigger than ours all the time
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
I LOL'd
when I read the USA Today article about the home runs at Yankee Stadium, where Cashman is quoted as saying maybe umps are calling a narrow strike zone this year.
GMAFB.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Yep, but would that be as effective as 4-5 wel-placed calls in an NBA game?
But no doubt that balls and strikes rank up there with NBA officiating as a hard-to-fathom, unpredictable mess.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
That's exactly it
Every umpire sucks at his job to a certain extent. If on team consistently gets squeezed, they’ll adapt to it and still be able to do well. I think the MLB equivalent to an NBA making poor calls would be an umpire at 1st base who makes a few poor calls at 1st base.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
just curious
do you personally think that this pitch tipping actually took place?
My guess is that it did.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
im with dirk
u doubt it did
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
I think its as legitimate
as the OF lights at RBiA.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
dirk and cahill on the same side of an argument. That's...heartwarming
Why does it seem implausible to you two? ARod and Tejeda just have too much integrity to even consider it?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
I just think
it would be a nightmare to coordinate without it getting out. You need folks on opposite side of the ball coordinating on how big a blowout it has to be before they start tipping.
Sounds more like something some crappy pitcher comes up with to explain his crapitude.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I don't see that it requires so much coordinating
Basically just two people.
person 1: “hey if things get out of hand, keep an eye on me and I’ll let you know what’s coming. You can do the same for me”
person 2: “ok”
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
You also have to work out some kind of hand signals.
And the player has to know the signals the catcher is giving.
They absolutely DO know the signals
They use that information for positioning themselves on D.
by NorCalRangersFan on Jun 2, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Supposedly
it was multiple shortstops.
Its easier for me to believe it was crappy rangers relief pitchers using it as an excuse, much like Buerhle used the lights in the OF as an excuse.
You can look up yourself the long line of crappy relief pitchers here when ARod was here.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Part of me wants to go to B-R and just see thaat list of crappy relief pitchers
But I think I’m too scarred to re-live those nightmarish days.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
So that explains
the “Golden Age” of shortstops ..
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions
You don't think
if this happened on a semi-regular basis while A-Rod were here that someone would’ve noticed? Granted, it’s only opposing shortstops and only in blowout games, but somebody would be able to look at footage of those games and say “Yep, you can see them gesturing to each other beforehand”, or even worse, “Yep, you can see Tejada turn his head and look at A-Rod”. Tejada is a righty, after all. That’s a little inconspicuous, no?
This is all before you factor in the logistics of working out hand signals or other gestures and the timing of looking at another player just before the pitch to figure out what’s coming.
personally I think that it probably was talked about but I don't see it actually happening
maybe that’s just me hoping that it never did … I don’t exactly want to see another scandal on ESPN every day and the possible “boycotting” of the game by some fans like the strike did.
*wow ... learn to type coherently ....
title should read, "personally I don’t think it did, it was probably talked about but I don’t see it actually happening
I subscribe to the theory posed by Doug Glanville or whoever it was that played on that Texas team
it’s undisputed that A-Rod was calling pitches for the Rangers. Some opponents probably picked up on his signals and brought up the fact to him that they knew what pitches were coming.
For a sensationalist journalist with a hatred for A-Rod and an active imagination, it’s not a very far leap from “inadvertently tipping pitches to the other team” to “tipping pitches in blowout games intentionally in exchange for similar favors.”
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I saw it written, forgot where, probably in one of the excerpts
that if you look at video, you can clearly see Arod signal in the pitches and you can also, in certain situations, clearly see him make similar gestures after the pitcher has already come set. If that is true, isn’t that pretty damning?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Hmm, I have not seen that about the later gestures
There very well may be a plausible explanation (signaling the left side of the infield?), but yeah, that sure could be damning.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
what is your opinion?
do you think it is plausible? or just a wild, random accusation?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
I think it is highly unlikely
And I think if it were alleged against anybody else — including, say, Miguel Tejada — people would dismiss it out of hand.
But for whatever reason, there is a segment of folks who seem to think that ARod is the devil, and if Selena Roberts said he was drowning puppies and drinking the blood of virgins, the response would be, “Yeah, I could see ol’ Bitch Tits doing that.”
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 2, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't knock
drinking the blood of virgins.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I don't understand how you can say somebody that
would take performance enhancing drugs to better himself wouldn’t have the audacity or motivation to cheat in other ways. maybe it’s far fetched, maybe somebody pulled it out of their ass, but maybe, at the same time, it’s possible? why is it “highly unlikely?”
people in business do shady things all the time to get ahead. there has been a precedence set and a pattern followed by many of these guys already (A-Rod and Miggy both accused of steroid use, confirmed, no?).
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:27 AM CDT up reply actions
Pitch tipping
is such an egregious violation of the game that I can’t see anyone doing it. Steroids – yeah, everyone was saying “don’t do that” as they were injecting themselves. The culture of the time not only allowed it, but often demanded it. One can say steroids are the pursuit of a competitive advantage taken to the extreme
Giving info on pitches is very different, it is no longer about competition but padding individual numbers to make money. I would argue that pitch tipping is not far away from throwing games for money – anyone who participates in a system to do that is only a handful of steps away from Joe Jackson.
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
Giving info on pitches is very different, it is no longer about competition but padding individual numbers to make money.
Yeah, these guys would NEVER do that.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
But this method is decidedly different from steroids, if that's what you're insinuating..
This is collusion and cheating and could, theoretically, be used for a massive “For the Good of the Game” type suspension.
I mean, the potential pitfalls far outweigh to potential gains, imo.
Like MC Cahill said, I put this right up there with the CF lights.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 2, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
I think if there was a widespread collusion
a gang of guys like ARod, Tejada and a few others who were doing it, we would see at least 1 year suspensions, and maybe even permanent ones, depending on its extent and duration (did it happen in playoffs?). And I’m sure those guys would have realized that.
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
so you think these guys think well ahead of time
when they’re struggling, getting booed by their hometown fans, trying to come back from an injury, or just foaming at the mouth for more cash in their pockets, you think that they ALWAYS think about the consequences and decide that they wouldn’t do it?
I’m not saying A-Rod did this. I’m not saying Tejada and others were involved. What I am saying, is that it’s certainly possible, and that if more than a few people have heard about it, or witnessed it, or even thought that they did, it should warrant a full investigation. And we shouldn’t dismiss it as easily as a “player’s coach” does. Which, by the way, I think is pretty cool of Ron.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Putting lights in the OF
and flashing signs to the hitters is also certainly possible.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I don't even get the OF reference
I missed it, or I’m completely ignorant…?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions
Some White Sox starter
I think Mark Buerhle, but maybe someone else, accused the Rangers of having a huge offensive edge in RBiA because a Ranger employee would steal signs, and flash lights to the Ranger hitter to let them know what pitch was coming.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I'm so glad you retold that.
Mark Buerhle is now the dumbest pitcher in MLB, IMO.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Joe Jackson > a pitch tipper
Joe gave the money back and then went on to hit .390 in the 1919 Series.
The man needs to be the HOF.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Agreed...
My take on this, and on guys like Rose, is this: if you must keep them out, then let them in the day after they die. That way, they never know what it feels like to be in, but the fans (and “baseball”) are not deprived of their presence.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
And I think if it were alleged against anybody else — including, say, Miguel Tejada — people would dismiss it out of hand.
The Oakland A’s apparently felt differently.
And I don’t think Bitch Tits is the devil, but I think he will lie at the drop of a hat and has an ego that so distorts his views that he probably thinks he can do whatever he wants, as long as it is for his own benefit.
I feel pretty much the same way about Roger Clemens, a player that I liked quite a bit. So it’s not just an ARod thing.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
if it was brought up against vizquel
or jeter
or tulowhathisname
or yuneski betancourt (Sp)
or bobby crosby
or michael young
or elvis andrus
or edgar renteria
etc
etc
etc
it would be dismissed as foolish/dumb
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed...(kinda)
There is definitely that faction of fans that believe that ARod was a fake, phony, douchy player, and any extreme allegations against him must be true, ya know because he’s AFraud…. But…
There is also that faction of fans (ahem, cough AJM, cough) that believes that AGod can do no wrong. These people ignore all the rumors that are out there, and all the “look at me, I’m ARod, why does everyone hate me? Is it because I’m so smart, good looking, and generally better than everyone else in every possible way?” mentality that ARod has.
In these peoples minds, the MVP award and 50 HR seasons are the reason that all Rangers fans didn’t die of SARS and weren’t attacked by Killer Bees from ‘01-’04. Anyone who has a negative word to say about ARod is obviously just out to make him a baseball martyr.
Personally, I believe the truth lies somewhere in between. (As it always does)
Or that faction of fans that don't believe A-Rod is satan
just choose to not treat one player unfairly worse than others because of how much money they are able to make or how good they are at a sport. I don’t think A-Rod can do no harm, I just think its ridiculous how much hate he gets for nothing.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Well...
Some of the hate is for nothing, and some of it is for general arrogance and the things he says and does. I don’t hate ARod, and any negative feelings I have towards him have nothing to do with the money he makes. Yes, he played his ass off for the Rangers, but that doesn’t negate the things he has said and done since leaving here (or while still here)
That's fine if you hate him for that
My problem with some people is when they let their general feelings about him lead to ridiculous accusations or pointless arguments. Just talking about how he tipped Hooter’s waitresses was insane and yet there were people that used that as further reasoning why he was a douche like it means anything.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Agreed...
And my point was simply that the absurdity runs both ways. As ridiculous as it is to believe everything that is said or written about him, it’s equally ridiculous to completely dismiss all of the accusations out of hand because “those people are just jealous of him for his talent, fame, and money”. And the fact that he is a great player and played hard while he was a Ranger doesn’t necessarily make him a good person who is infallible and not capable of doing anything wrong.
Baically my point is that it’s a two way street.
"yet there were people that used that as further reasoning why he was a douche...'
In doucheal determination, I’d say it means something.
You don’t consider it baggery to be worth a couple hundred million bucks and regularly tip servers 12 percent?
Frankly, anyone that does that is a jackass, but it is obviously amplified by his stature and wealth.
Do you disagree?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
Bitching about how much a person tips someone
is stupid. Do you go out with him to dinner each time and see how much he tips a waitress?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
anyone that has waited tables at some point in there life
realizes that yes, it is a big deal, especially if you are a multi-millionaire.
If you can’t afford to tip 20% or more, then you can’t afford to eat at that restaurant. If you can afford to give a decent tip, then you are just really unaware, or a douchebag.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
their, not there
And the last sentence should read, “If you can afford to give a decent tip and don’t, then you are just really unaware, or a douchebag”
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
True or false
Is it ok to habitually under tip?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
10% to 15%
was considered normal, once upon a time. I don’t view 12% as an undertip. 5% is an undertip.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Solid indeed.
Listening to REK right now. The man needs a statute in his honor somewhere.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Crap
Well done, sir.
REK needs a statue AND a statute in his honor.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
12% is definitely under
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
Tough luck.
Let the restaurants pay them on the book money if they want they want more.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
okay Mr. Pink
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Ah. OK.
So peeps that under tip are doing it on principle.
What’s the principle? Sticking it to the little guy while conveniently scrounging a couple of bucks?
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
You've never waited tables, have you?
Cause this is probably the strongest I’ve ever disagreed with you, DJ, and by the hammer of Thor you know we’ve had our disagreements.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
My question to those that think he did it
Where is the in-game evidence? Grant’s little research project shows 3 guys that have an improvement in their numbers. Those numbers are also probably not significant in the statistical sense with the sample size issue and they also use BA instead of a better statistic. And of course, mop-up guys just aren’t that good. Even if he did tip pitches, you’d think that there would be some kind clear showing in the numbers instead of A-Rod not playing any better in blow out games.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Well you can see why players love Wash.
He certainly loves them right back.
Unconditional blind love is a great thing to receive, not sure how well it works from a management standpoint, though.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
It's ok from your manager
as long as he’s not the one handing out contracts.
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Well it does kinda suck in certain situations, but I think it's prolly equally beneficial in others.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 2, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions
As long as there's no kissing
in the dugout or anything I’m cool with it.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
What about when he blindly sticks up for a guy when it's painfully obvious to everyone else the guy can't hack it in the situations Wash's heart tells him the dude can?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 2, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Pat him on the head
say there, there, and ditch the guy anyway.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Huh?
We’re not talking about what you’d like him to do, we’re talking about Wash’s unconditional love for his players and how it can sometimes get him/us into trouble.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
Ah, okay.
I hope they do that, too.
I actually like Wash as a manager, but I do think his unconditional love for his players needs to be monitored to make sure he doesn’t hurt the team by believing a guy can succeed in a situation where everyone else in the world knows he can’t.
Sosa vs. RHP’ing comes to mind, as does Ben Broussard and the fact that Matt Kata was allowed to be on our major league roster.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 2, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions
On a side note...
Apparently the AP is big on run-on sentences. I had to read that photo caption a few times in disbelief.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Doesn't AJM write those?
I don’t think all the ones mocking Jerry Jones come straight from the AP like that.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
AP does most of them
I can change them, though, and occasionally do.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 2, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
But he's not as toolsy!!!
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
ML experience
plus a patient approach at the plate (in his minor league career – WAY higher than Golson) and very strong defense
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions
thanks for weighing in
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
Wow ... USA Today article about all the HRs in the new Yankee Stadium with some gem quotes
There’s no doubt that the new Yankee Stadium has taken over as the best hitters’ park in baseball," Baltimore Orioles first baseman Aubrey Huff says. "Someone’s going to hit 90 home runs there.
There have been nine games in which at least five home runs were hit. In three other games, teams have combined to hit seven or more.
Others have called it a disgrace to the legacies of Babe Ruth, Lou Gehrig, Joe DiMaggio, Mickey Mantle and Reggie Jackson, who says Alex Rodriguez could hit 75 home runs in the ballpark.
Even the Yankees’ most aggressive critic in the financing and building of the new stadium, state assemblyman Richard Brodsky, is keeping on eye on the parade of home runs.
“If the Yankees want to build a bad stadium with their own money, that’s their business,” he says. “But if it is done with public money, then that’s a different issue. There could come a time when we have to ask, ‘Was the taxpayers’ money spent well?’ And that would be a perfectly legitimate question.”
Some Orioles could not believe it when right fielder Nick Swisher was jammed by Jeremy Guthrie’s pitch but managed to hit it over the right-field fence. The Philadelphia Phillies lamented a broken-bat home run to left field by Yankees first baseman Mark Teixeira, who gripped nothing but the handle of his bat after the swing.
“When you hear a broken bat, you think it is a popup,” says Phillies left-hander Cole Hamels, who gave up the home run.
Cleveland Indians catcher Kelly Shoppach says the effect of the wind is easy to spot watching a game on TV. “You see a right fielder camped under a ball that he thinks he’s going to catch and the ball lands two rows into the seats,” he says. “The right-fielder gets deflated.”
and Douchey McDoucherton with a strong douchey quote
“I hit that ball well, right on the barrel,” Teixeira says of his broken-bat homer. “It would have gone further if I hadn’t broken the bat. I usually hit them 450 feet. This one went 400.”
of course I just looked up his average HR distance and it’s 405 soooooo …
I would give a lot of money
to watch the Rangers take BP there today.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
"I usually hit them 450 feet"
Wow, arrogant much?
I don’t think any player in baseball today is qualified to say “I usually hit them 450 feet”, unless maybe they’re talking about batting practice.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Or their name is Albert Fucking Pujols.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
or adam fucking dunn (circa 2008)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
He certainly doesn't hit them 450 in April
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
wow I hate that guy
good news though…our swing-for-the-fences approach will have to stay around for another 3 games. we might actually out slug the Yanks
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 2, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions
Weeee
lots of double digit scoring!
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Hope Wash has his 2-pt conversion chart handy..
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 2, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 5 recs
Yikes.
REC.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions
eh?
If the Yankees want to build a bad stadium with their own money, that’s their business," he says. "But if it is done with public money, then that’s a different issue. There could come a time when we have to ask, ‘Was the taxpayers’ money spent well?’ And that would be a perfectly legitimate question."
i was totally unaware that the normal MLB fan would rather see a 2-1 game than a 30-3 or a 15-11 game
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions
That 30-3 game
was a helluva lot of fun for Rangers fans. In 2030, 30 year old men in Baltimore will be going to their psychotherapists who will uncover that the source of their impotence can be traced back to watching their O’s be helpless against the Rangers that day.
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
LOL
I have a good friend who is an O’s fan, and he’s still scarred by that game.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
If it were the 2008 Rangers...
I wouldn’t feel so bad for them.
But it was the 2007 Rangers.
Metcalf? Vasquez?
Not exactly terrifying batters. And wasn’t Byrd batting clean-up at that point?
Poor O’s.
But he got a save!
Wes Littleton got the save, in a game where his team was up by 27 runs!
/Tim Kurkjian
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
I find
most of the high scoring games beatings, because as likely as not they are blowouts that stop being interesting after the 3rd inning.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
do you think that you
or me or almost anyone on this board is a “normal” baseaball fan?
i think not.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions
I think the quality of games is somewhat independent of the score
2-1 games can be really interesting if they take 2 1/2 hours. When there are K’s and good defensive plays, yeah, give me the duel.
But if the teams are dragging the game out with constant pitching changes and visits to the mound and pickoff moves, they can be horrendous. I find Boston horrendously painful to watch regardless of what their score is because their games always (and I mean always) drag on and on and on. It seems like even a 2-1 pitching duel lasts three and a half hours if Boston is one of the teams.
Likewise, a 7-4 game or a 10-9 game can be either thrilling or awful, depending on how the runs are scored (lots of walks? Or a few big exciting innings?)
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
Dude
I am MORE THAN FINE with that for the Yankees.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Sunday's game was a real beating until the 8th inning
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
Haha
Don’t try to inject common sense into the investigating rampages of a politician on a soapbox.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I think 3-3
on this week’s games would be a real victory for us. We have been owned in those two stadiums. Specifically getting outslugged in horrendous games at Fenway last summer morally deflated us and took us out of the race.
Agreed
I will take a 3-3 road trip through New York and Boston
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I still shudder
When I think about that godawful 17-19 game last year in Boston. Neither team deserved to win that travesty. There should have been some way to make both teams lose.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
College Tourney:
Go Owls!
Texas is representing this year. 3 teams in super regionals (Rice, Texas, TCU). At least one Texas team will be in Omaha (TCU and Texas are playing in the supers). Any of the three will have a strong chance of going deep in Omaha if they win this weekend.
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
Maddux coming out
more to the mound lately has been very beneficial I think. I can remember several instances of him adjusting the mental focus or momentum of the inning. He does it way more with Harrison and McCarthy, which is as it should be. He treats each pitcher individually- what a novel concept. Connor always struck me as the high school coach who screams “throw strikes!!” from the dugout.
I remember with connor
the mound visit usually preceded a complete meltdown.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
reminds me of the old office sign..
“The beatings will continue until morale improves…”
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Did Connor's windbreaker with the half sleeves ever annoy anyone besides me?
It could have been 120 degrees of 12 degrees and blowing snow, it always seemed like he was wearing that same annoying get-up.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Did .... about Connor annoy me?
Yes ..fill in the blank with any number of things.
by texasdoc on Jun 2, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 4 recs
Yeah, dude, retirement's not for everyone ..
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want to see Hamilton go the DL either
Your feelings are usually wrong so that gives me some hope atleast
Here's why Hicks is selling the rangers to cover his LFC loan BTW:
Liverpool made £72.3m this season
thats before ticket revenue.
any1 think the rangers make 120M bucks this season in straight profit before tickets?
yeah, thats why we are getting sold.
pS: screw you tommyboy
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
4th largest media market..
lining his pockets… doesn’t care about winning…. VERY profitable……
did I miss anything?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Who are your least favorite Yankees?
For me it’s
1. teixeira
2. a-rod
3. chamberlain
4. cano
5. jeter
coming up fast for a spot on the top five are, cabrerra, gardener, and swisher,
Teixeira is by far the only one I hate
Jeter used to annoy me, but then I realized that Joe Buck (OT: has anyone seen his amazingly funny HBO promo?) and Tim McCarver and everyone at ESPN is who I hate, Jeter just does his thing, it isn’t his fault he’s been overhyped. He’s just Jeter, and he’s good at being Jeter.
ARod has his annoying tendencies, but he’s almost a tragic Shakespearean character. I certainly don’t hate him.
Joba: see ESPN hype. He’s just a fat boy from Nebraska who pitches for the Yanks.
I actually really like Mariano Rivera. I feel giddy every time I watch him pitch – there aren’t many of “the greatest X of all time” you get to see (and no, Trevor Hoffman is not the greatest closer of all time, stupid San Diego fans…).
I have an irrational hatred of Chris Davis because his Ks are way too ugly and irrational liking of Matt Harrison because he's a lefty - deal with it.
Glad to see someone else feels that way about Jeter
I’m with you, Mariano is one of my favorite players. Like you say, he’s the greatest of all time, and he always comes across like a really humble guy who is just appreciative that he has the opportunity to play baseball for a living.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
hes consistantly been the only yankee i "like"
forever (since he was wettland’s setup guy)
i just dont care for jeter…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 2, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Yup.
I hate the sense of doom that comes with him when he is brought out against the Rangers…but against other teams, I love watching him. He reminds me of an old war veteran or something…
the guy
this year
has thrown his cutter an amazing 92.8%
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
I really don't have anything against Jeter
I despise the way he’s deified in the media, as being the best player in baseball, having the “Yankee Eyes”, and all that b.s., but I’ve never really seen much indication that he tries to create that persona for himself. You can’t blame a guy for being overrated when it’s through no fault of his own, other than playing hard.
Sure, there are the jump throws, diving into the stands for foul balls, etc., but is he doing it for the adoration or to make the play (and it just happens that he’s not talented enough to make the play without having to give the extra effort)? I tend to think it’s the latter.
Jeter is far from being the best shortstop in the game, much less the best player in baseball, and I can’t stand the way he is showered with undue adoration, but he personally doesn’t do anything to annoy me.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I likes me some Jeets
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
Jeter
I don’t think he’s the best SS now, but he has 2600 hits and may well end up with about 3500 and is a likely career +.300 avg hitter. Add to that his leadership, his big game play, and their winning record of his first 10 years, and you have to conclude he’s a HOFer. I guess great players can be overrated, but he’s certainly a great one.
what about his clutch-ness!
while yes, he is good. he is not the best SS on his team (i still believe that)
yea, hes a HOF player, but you think he would be nearly as well/widely known if he played his whole career in texas?
think he would still hvae his jordan marketing deal?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
I was shocked when I saw that graphic on Jeter last night...
How in the hell has a franchise like the Yankees NEVER had a 3000 hit guy?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I really only dislike
Teixeira and A-Rod…. but I have to admit Chamberlain is quickly moving up there. He needs to learn to control his emotions on the mound, because that shit is just unnecessary. I mean, Paps and K-Rod are giant douchebags in their own way, but you know, if I’m fast enough with the power button I never have to see it.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
If Hamilton is out
If Hamilton is out for only a 2 week DL stint I have no problem with Boggs coming up. But if Hamilton is out for an extended period, say for a hernia, then I think Borbon should get the call.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
To sit on the bench?
He is not ready for the MLs.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
If Hamilton is out indefinitely then Borbon is your everyday CF
Cruz is still in RF and Byrd/Murphy is your LF platoon.
Between he and Boggs this year there isn’t much difference. Boggs draws more walks but since we are losing our everyday CF why not give our “CF of the future” his shot playing everyday
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think he's working on some stuff at AAA right now.
And I don’t think they want to mess with that right now by calling him up to get probably sporadic playing time and risk him reverting to his old approach in an attempt to hold his head above water against big league pitchers.
Also with the team in the middle of a pennant race, don’t you think it makes sense to go with the horse who you know gives you the best shot at winning baseball games right now?
It feels odd to say it out loud, but we’re no longer in “Build for the future” mode around here.
We’re playoff contenders, baby.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 2, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Couple things
First, why would he only get sporadic playing time? Isn’t he supposed to be our “CF of the future”? Witha spot open for permanent playing time I don’t see why he would only get sporadic playing time. With the Rangers emphasis on defense I would think his range and defense in CF would be plenty for him.
He would probably hit 9th and we could move Andrus up to #2 and slide Young to 3rd which I think was a nice setup when Hammy was out before. Just like before the season when I wasn’t worried about Andrus’ offense and what he would do because thats not why he was being brought up I am not gonna be worried about Borbons offense because as long as he plays plus D in CF he can stay at the bottom of the lineup.
Also with the team in the middle of a pennant race, don’t you think it makes sense to go with the horse who you know gives you the best shot at winning baseball games right now?
Which horse are you talking about here? Because I don’t think Boggs gives you any greater shot at winning than Borbon does. Now if you are meaning Byrd, Murphy, and Jones playing more gives us a better shot then I think you have a point and won’t really argue it.
Basically Borbon has been doing pretty much what we expected of him in OKC. Hes probably not ever going to draw a ton of walks but he plays really good defense in CF. And given how we just lost our everyday CF I would think this would be the perfect chance to get a look at him. If he comes up and bombs then you can go with Boggs and play the veterans alot more but right now, if Hamilton is out for awhile, why not give the kid a chance and see if he gives us a shot in the arm?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Just the latest evidence
you’re nuts.
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by t ball on Jun 2, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Not raining in Brooklyn
but it looks like it could at any second. Humid as a very humid hell right now.
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