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by Adam J. Morris on Jun 2, 2009 9:29 PM CDT
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The Bad Padilla showed up today.
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But, but...
First Place Mother Effing Rangers???
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
K
thanks for playing.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
The Angels
I don’t know if you noticed, but they kind of suck.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
No
our pitching is exactly the same. Our defense is awesome.
And we’re better than the Angels, so yeah. Relax, beat weed.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Well, goddamn.
They’ve got a 4.5 game lead… 2nd biggest lead in the majors. It’s the same tonight as if they won and the Angels won. I know they’ve been the suck for so long, but try to enjoy it while it’s here right now, eh?
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Enjoy what? Being embarrassed by other first place teams?
by oc on Jun 2, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
What were your expectations to start the year oc?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I don't give a shit about the start of the year, I care about the here and now
by oc on Jun 2, 2009 9:50 PM CDT up reply actions
What has changed to change your expectations then?
the fact they took advantage of their division and their opposition?
Is that it?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
My expectation every year is to win the World Series
by oc on Jun 2, 2009 9:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Hows that workin
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 2, 2009 9:57 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
that explains
quite a bit
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
x
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Fuck that
it’s my contribution to the dogpile.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions
No expectations, no dissapointments
That’s kind of been my approach with this team for a long time now, and it still sort of is. If I expect them to continue the way they have this year and win the division they probably won’t, so… I don’t. I just try to enjoy the ride instead.
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
We'll see how you sonsabitches feel after an 0-6 road trip
by oc on Jun 2, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cheer up, sport!
2010.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
*facepalm*
They’re in first fucking place. The Yankees are taking a dump in everyone’s mouths right now. I just want to win the division. As long as they continue the pwnage like they have over the West, they’ll be fine. Give them a damn chance.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions
I guess its not that big a deal
if you expected it, and thought the team can still win the division even with being raped on the road by good teams.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Then do something less stressful
this was the idea this year – compete in a weak division while letting young players work through it.
Nobody cares about your drama.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Captain Ranger at the press conference with post game response
The World Series Crisis - Ranger fans held hostage; Game 5913
Magic Number- 108
by red3biggs on Jun 2, 2009 9:31 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
It's Rangers Captain
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 2, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason Biggs?
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Jason... Statham?
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by LSJ on Jun 2, 2009 9:35 PM CDT up reply actions
It's the latest side-effect from Swine Flu.
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by LSJ on Jun 2, 2009 9:36 PM CDT up reply actions
There it is
Win!
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by LSJ on Jun 2, 2009 9:37 PM CDT up reply actions
outstanding.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:43 PM CDT up reply actions
damn my auditory dyslexia
The World Series Crisis - Ranger fans held hostage; Game 5913
Magic Number- 108
And that, my good friends
was a fist full of shit shoved down our throats.
She say she are the manager.
true.
I mean, I guess it would just be a guy who you know, grabs bananas and runs. Or, um, a banana that grabs things. I don’t know. Why would a banana grab another banana? I mean, those are the kind of questions I don’t want to answer.
One more year
just one more year of Padilla-nation.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Even half a year
feels like a full year when Padilla is pitching.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Luckily Feldman is up tomorrow
He’s the best we’ve got at the moment
That's why they call them business sox
Be more creative
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
You can go with this:
That’s what they called the Yankees when I lived in Miami during 2003 WS.
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Vaminos, Yanquis!
Aikman and Bradshaw?
Please. They are in the same league as Trent Dilfer and Jim McMahon as QBs who were taken to the SB by great Defenses and great Running Games.
-DJCahill
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 2, 2009 9:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it's clear why we lost
No “first place mother effin Texas Rangers” post from Rodney, neither on the morning thread nor the game day thread.
We were doomed from the get-go.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I'm going to have a shitty day at work tomorrow.
I’ll have to listen to my retarded co-worker say we should blow away our farm system to win now.
I work with a Yankees fan
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 2, 2009 10:34 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather be heckled
than have to deal with an imbecile who thinks he knows it all, but he knows very little. He’s probably gong to bitch about Holland too.
????
So, when Wash and Lewin constantly tell me that this team “always battles” and “never gives up”, are the final 5 innings of tonight’s game what they are talking about?
The first 4 innings lasted 2 hours, the final 5 seemed to take about as long as an episode of “Seinfeld”.
Derek Holland
deserves a fair share of blame for these last two losses. Allowed the 3rd and 4th run in one inning against the A’s and served up a meatball to Matsui which effectively ended tonight’s game.
Game was basicly over before Holland came in
but Holland definitely didn’t help
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
That's not true.
We were shelling Burnett the inning before. 5/6 or even 7 to 3 out of that inning and it’s at least still a game.
The dude may end up being very good and I really hope he does of course, but right now he is getting rocked.
Definitely
He needs to stop getting so much praise and free pass bs around here
he has basically sucked ass….
if the red sox light him up like other teams are (astros dont really count, and even they scored 3) id strongly consider sending him down
he has just flat out struggled despite the fact that no one around here will acknowledge it
So Padilla
He is the only player on the team that I have anything close to the feeling of disdain. Not the Bensonian “I hope you get release tomorrow”, or the sad Mendozas, or swinging syndromes Blalock – just plain, quiet spite. When he pitches a good game, I mumble to myself something along the line of “why can’t you do this every start?”, and when he sucks and causes the team to lose, I find some solace from the fact that he got Pinata’d. I am not sure what it is, maybe it’s the inconsistency in both command and velocity; maybe it’s the epic race against plate tectonics to throw a pitch; maybe it’s the lollipop curveball in the form of the harbinger of doom. Even though I can never really find a good enough reason to actually despise the man, the little dark chuckle that comes up when he gives up runs after hitting or walking a few batters earlier in the inning never goes away.
In other stories, Derek Holland needs to work on command of his non-fastball pitches.
I was guilty
of thinking Padzilla should be retained in 2010 after his stretch in May. I forgot how awful bad Padilla can be. I feel failure for even entertaining the notion last month.
I wouldn't mind if Holland replaces him
but it’s not going to happen, Padilla will stay in the rotation unless he is injured.
Though there is certainly room for improvement, I don't think he has pitched all that poorly
He has been a bit unlucky (BABIP of .332), and has given up a few too many HRs. I don’t think it’s realistic to expect him to continue to give up HR at the current rate. Both HR and BABIP regression should benefit him. Based on peripherals, I would argue that he is currently a better pitcher than Padilla right now. His strikeout rate and walk rate are both better than Padilla. He has also induced more groundballs and fewer line drives than Padilla. Opposing batters are making less contact on his pitches than Padilla’s pitches, and they are also swinging more of his pitches outside the strike zone.
Holland definitely needs to work on a few things, but he is clearly not as poor a pitcher as his ERA indicates.
So
Padilla has two straight one hitters, then has one bad start and you want to run him out of town? This isnt directly to Telegraph, more to everyone in this thread… You need to stay with your starter, jesus christ your acting like Yankee fans
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on Jun 3, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually Padilla has
a 4.96 ERA and 48 HBPs as a Ranger for his whole stay here,
I don’t think its one bad start that has folks wanting to run him out of town.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
It's the human roller coaster act
that has people wanting him gone.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Yeah, they will stay with him
but it doesn’t change the fact that watching him pitch pisses me off
Padilla
was probably doing shooters before the game.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
These kind of experiences are either going to mae Derek a better player, by baptism of fire
or completely break him.
She say she are the manager.
Just got home from the game tonight.
I’ve got tickets for the next two as well but am not looking forward to them right now.
Is anyone else wondering...
…if they are really going to run Holland back out there on Saturday, after he’s pitched a fair amount in relief both today and Sunday?
Rub his nose in it.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Original.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Jun 2, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions
doesn't all augie do is win?
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
To be fair...
…Augie’s predecessor was also a notorious arm-slagger.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 2, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Is that you, then?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions
That would be a joke
and Austin would be ashamed of you as his father.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on Jun 3, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Um
Dont hate on Augie… The kid wanted to go out there… Pitchers arms have been studied for years and there is NO research that sais that letting a kid throw for 169 pitches ONE time is going to jepordize his career. Sheesh.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on Jun 3, 2009 12:54 AM CDT up reply actions
Well...
It’s Tuesday. That would mean a 3-day period of no pitching in a game, so yeah, I don’t find it impossible to believe that they start him on Saturday… maybe they limit his pitch count or something as a result.
"Either we need to re-calibrate our rectangle, or Alfonzo Marquez is not having a good night." - Josh Lewin
by utlonghorn24 on Jun 2, 2009 10:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Probably will
But be on a strict pitch count. Say 75-85 pitches
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I am beginning to think
he is a bit like Feldman in the sense he needs to start to be effective. When he gets hammered it is usually in his first inning of work. His 8th inning against the A’s was lights out after looking shaky in the 7th.
I was wondering
why they used him tonight. Benson only threw 11 pitches tonight. Could they start him on Sat instead?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Davis looked better tonight
0-4, but if that stadium played like it has every other fucking game this year he may have hit three out
A K
and 3 long pop flies. He needs to hit some linedrives.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
what the fuck were you watching?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
They were probably home runs if the wind is blowing tonight
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I explained that below.
The wind was what it has been for most Yankees games. (I was at the game tonight, fwiw.) He just hit his to the deepest part of the park, which also cuts across the straight out to right field current.
Actually, it did for the most part.
There wasn’t much of a wind, but there is clearly a general flow to right field.
Davis just hit his to the deepest parts of the park.
Fwiw, I totally understand now why the new park is seeing so many more HRs than the old park. The concourses at the new park are wide open and spacious, all the way to the street. The old Yankee Stadium was a sealed cave in the concourses.
he did look good,
but i was bummed to see him still look frustrated. Hopefully he knows he’s headed the right way, by going the other way and putting a charge in a couple.
matsuzaka
kind of sucks
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
and
walk 15 in the process. hopefully there’s a couple of hits squished in between.
we've been dominated
by every pitcher that kinda sucks now but used to be good this year
go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com
wrong
not dominating…
lucky according to FirebatM3
by sam in so cal on Jun 3, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions
If he goes bananas his next outing, it's not going to sit well with the rest of the clubhouse. I think a lof of his teammates are hanging the blame on him tonight
by oc on Jun 2, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Based on what?
I think a lof of his teammates are hanging the blame on him tonight
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions
Two intentional hit-batters? Putting the rest of the team at risk to get hit at the plate? Balking in a run?
Taking an hour in-between pitches?
by oc on Jun 2, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, yeah
but that is the “bad padilla”. His teammates usually stick up for him, IIRC.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 2, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions
He was very upset at not getting the 2nd out after the Teixeira DP break-up slide.
I watched him as soon as the safe call happened. Very mad reaction. And I’m not sure at what as it was the right call and nothing Andrus could do on that play. So I guess Padilla was just pissed he wasn’t out of yet another jam quite yet. And he totally fell apart from there.
The first HBP was intentional?
I didn’t see it as intentional. Just an inside pitch that got too far inside.
Had the Rangers cashed in the couple times they had a runner on 3rd and less than two outs who knows how the game turns out. If the batters are hanging the blame on Padilla they need to be called out.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
hopefully 1st with two outs
its just soo entertaining to watch his douchey-ness get plunked, even though it seems to make him an even bigger douche
by blueballlefty on Jun 2, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't want the Rangers to throw at any more Yankees or try to start anything for now...
…but if by some miracle we win tomorrow and have a comfortable lead late Thursday, I would love to see Teixeira or A-Rod or Posada or any Yankee drilled as a “season series is even now” parting gift.
Put Benson in for one pitch
And when they charge, everyone needs to stay put… no costly suspensions, sorry Kris
by BuckyB on Jun 2, 2009 10:24 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
first inning
by Andrus on a DP relay
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
You probably shouldn't publically post it here
since SB Nation is uptight bout it and Klaw is a friend of the blog.
Exchange emails or something
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
When they called up Derek Holland
Somebody mentioned that he was a bit concerned because pitching in the majors would not give him the proper opportunity to work on his off-speed pitches since to get hitters out, he would always go to his best pitch, which is the fastball. Is this a valid concern right now given how much he has relied on his fastball? Prior to today’s game, he was throwing fastball on 77% of his pitches.
Holland
This is exactly why it makes me mad when people want to call guys up to have them sit the bench or play sparingly or if they aren’t fully ready. The majors are not the time to develop. The majors are to refine your stuff that should already been developed. The minors are where the development should take place. Because a players individual numbers can be overlooked and the teams W/L record can be thrown out if players are getting the development they need. At the major league level its all about the record. If a guy needs work on his offspeed stuff he should be doing it in AAA.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Having young pitchers come out of the bullpen
seemed to work for the Dodgers & Orioles a long time ago.
I still think it’s a great way to develop young arms and have no problems with what the Rangers are doing with Holland.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
If they are ready then yes
But if they have gotten by in the minors on mostly a fastball or have no confidence or command of their breaking/offspeed stuff then I don’t like it. In a minor league game you can tell the kid to go out and focus solely on a certain pitch no matter how effective it is. If he struggles and gets knocked around or walks a bunch of guys thats fine because he got the work in he needed to.
In a major league game, especially since we are in a playoff race, you can’t do that. Holland has a good fastball but obviously has no confidence or command of his breaking/offspeed stuff. Its shown flashes but brought in the situations Holland has been brought into guys can look fastball and if they get one they hit it.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
It seems to me is that he's not locating very well.
He leaves his fastball over the plate way too much. He needs to be more cerebral if you ask me. His change-up is excellent and he needs to utilize it more though.
His change
Its shown flashes of being good but by coming in out of the bullpen he can’t really afford to work on it in tight situations.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Then move him to the rotation full time
make room for him. I’m sure most people have had enough of Padilla’s inconsistency.
Trade Padillas inconsistency for Hollands?
Not while we are in a playoff race
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Thank you
Why can people on here not state the fact that holland has not been very good?
he made 2 starts, one was horrible the other was kinda good but he still gave up 3 runs to a horrendous Houston team
I agree
He hasn’t been good at all. I think people are encouraged, if they watch the games, by his stuff. If (and that’s a big if) he can gain some confidence in his breaking pitches, he can be good this season (sooner rather than later), either as a starter or in the pen.
I do think his breaking pitches are "developed"
an undeveloped breaking pitch would be something like Feliz’s breaking pitch and changeup. Holland is probably comfortable with his slider and changeup, and generally has an idea of what is coming out of his hands. However, they are clearly behind the quality of his fastball right now. I think he and CJ has some similarity in that the fastball is just the much better pitch for him at the moment and he has the most confidence in it. If Derek was a bullpen guy, then his current state, with some find tuning, is probably enough. If he wants to be a starter, the quality, command, and his confidence in his changeup and slider will need to improve.
Although I have a lot of distaste for him,
I do think hitting Teix a second time was bullshit and uncalled for.
That being said, how funny would it have been had Teix charged the mound, and Padilla put him in a headlock and started punching him in the face?
She say she are the manager.
Our bullpen
Anyone have any idea why Washington used so many guys tonight out of the pen?
Didn’t tonight scream of a mopup guys time to pitch? I can see bringing in Holland in a tight game and seeing if you can stay in it but after going down 9-3 why use Madrigal and Eddie? Couldn’t Benson have pitched the rest of the game besides one inning? Frankly I could care less what his stats are because as long as he is our long reliever/mopup man and is being used once a week at most in blowout situations I could care less if he has a 6 ERA or a 10 ERA. Losing 9-3 and losing 14-3 isn’t that big a deal to me.
And I know Eddie and Warner both pitched alright and should be ok for the rest of the series but did they really need the work?
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
When the hell did the Nick Swisher/Padilla fight go down?
Was this during a Cowboy game? I honestly don’t remember hearing anything about this until now. lol 2 years later.
First off...
Fuck the Yankees.
I was encouraged by what I saw from CD tonight. I know he took the collar and went 0-4, but I liked what I saw tonight a lot more than how he looked in that Oakland series.
I’m really getting tired of how Holland is being used. If you want to bring him up and break him in out of the ‘pen then fine do that. Don’t shuffle him back and forth between the ‘pen and starting. They just build up his pitch count for a couple starts then have him pitch a couple one inning relief appearances and now they will have him start again on Saturday? He should still be in OKC in the rotation getting his normal work in and working on his secondary pitches. Hitters are just sitting on his FB right now. I didn’t like it when he was called up and I still don’t like it now. It was fine when he was looking good early and was coming out of the ‘pen just to get his feet wet, but now I feel like the team is jerking him around for the teams benefit because they have a shot to win now and they’re not taking into account what is best to develop one of the teams best young pitching prospects. I don’t like it.
If the Rangers have one too many starters when everyone is healthy (or they trade for a starter) I would strongly consider using Padilla as the RH setup guy this team needs. I don’t know if he would do well in that role, but it may be worth a shot.
Kinsler, MY, and Cruz are really going to have to carry this offense with Josh out.
Thank goodness Andrus wasn’t hurt by that take out slide from Teix.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
There is no way this club goes with Padilla in the pen
Especially if it means putting Holland in the rotation. Not gonna happen. As Padilla showed the previous 3 starts before tonight he can be a shutdown pitcher (Remember those back to back one hitters guys). Holland shows promise but in the midst of a playoff chase you do not demote a quality veteran starting pitcher to the bullpen for a 22 year old rookie who has little to no command of his breaking stuff.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I'm with you...
on Holland. However if the Rangers made a deal for a starting pitcher and Millwood, B-Mac, Feldman, and Harrison are all pitching the way they have so far then Padilla would be the guy to go imo. It’s a big IF for me, B-Mac would have to stay healthy, Harrison would have to show that he didn’t just have a few good starts, and Feldman would have to continue to show that he can go deeper in games. IF that happens though I think Padilla would fill the need in the ’pen better than anyone else.
Of course this is all speculation because the Rangers would still have to acquire a good starter and I’m not sure I see that happening either.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Moving Padilla to the pen would be a epic fucking disaster
he is slow, walks guys, throws like a legit #2 to one batter and then like a AA pitcher to the next…
how is that possibly a good bullpen guy?
furthermore, if we move Padilla to the pen i figure hed just say fuck off and not even focus on his pitching anymore
again, padilla in bullpen=epic fucking disaster
Okay...
he is slow, walks guys, throws like a legit #2 to one batter and then like a AA pitcher to the next…
How is that a good starter?
You hit the nail on the head with the third part of that. “He throws like a legit #2 guy to one batter…” If he is doing that for 3 or 4 guys wouldn’t that be better than 24 or 25 batters when he’s starting?
He’s not going to say fuck off and not pitch either, that’s ridiculous.
Again, I don’t know if it would work or not, but I’d rather see him in the ‘pen instead of Harrison, McCarthy, or Feldman. Assuming they are all still pitching like they have so far. Padilla isn’t going to be around next year anyway. Who cares if he’s pissed about going to the ’pen.
But it seems like you know everything already, so I digress.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
padilla to the pen
I actually saw that on the DMN blog a while ago. It was weird to suggest then because padilla was coming off a complete game so I don’t think one start should change things.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Interesting idea
and one that should be considered definitely.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 3, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
Huh?
So you bring him in the 7th w/a 1 run lead and you have no clue who is coming out
oops, its bad padilla and he decides to walk a guy and then drill the next one….oh shit, lead gone
as a starter he can fuck around out there a little more since he is able to battle more and the few runs he gives up from it arent crippling
also, you give padilla way more mental credit than i do
If the Rangers deal for a starter
If the Rangers deal for a starter its as obvious a sign as possible that they are going for it THIS YEAR. If thats the case then either BMac or Harrison gets sent down to AAA.
Again I think waaaaaaaaaaay too many people are completely forgetting how dominant Padilla was before he went on the DL. It just goes to the knee jerkiness of people on here.
Padilla will be traded before moving to the bullpen.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
My favorite part of the night was teixipad getting plunked
the second time. Yes it was horrible from a game standpoint but I loved it. The first one I knew was going to happen the second was gravy.I only worry about them plunking Kins in the first inning tomorrow and him charging and then getting suspended.
The way he is hitting hed do us a favor...
kidding of course, but that average going down to .277 is just ugly at this point, he needs to wake up, and fast
also, i highly doubt theyll plunk him in the 1st inning, and I dont recall Pettite ever being that kind of pitcher
as for Teix, did anyone bring him a tissue so he could cry b/c he sure was acting like a giant pussy, and id love to see him try to start something b/c i know hed get his ass handed to him
this thread
my god, this thread
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Very late item
I’ve been at the Dallas VA hospital (my brother) mostly since Thursday. Only got the radio broadcast for this game. When it happened, Barnett commented that had Kinsler thrown overhand to Andrus rather than the backhand flip, Teix couldn’t have steamrolled him. And the DP would have left the game at 3-3 at the end of that inning. Anyone who watched agree or have a different take? Clearly it’s one game, albeit a symptomatic kind of loss. And maybe closing that inning tied would have made a difference in the outcome, maybe not. But that commentary stuck with me all the way home this evening.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 3, 2009 12:26 AM CDT reply actions
Just saw Teix...
talking to the media about Padilla on the MLB network…
Anyone that knows uhh Vicente heh heh ya know that’s just the way he does it. Ya know it’s not the right way to play the game and unfortunately that guy’s been doin’ it his whole career.
The entire time with that smarmy Teix grin of his. The guy really comes off as a pompous ass. Tell us Teix, how is the right way to play the game?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I hate to say it
But as smarmy and pompous as he might be, he’s pretty much right in regards to Padilla.
Somehow however, this still makes me feel a little less sorry for his dumb ass.
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
maybe it's because
he got his pom-poms out when asked about Burnett’s pitch to Cruz’s head.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Ah, the old double standard
I would expect nothing less from Tex, to tell you the truth.
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
yeah, i thought that was BS too.
Back him off, fine, hit him fine, but Burnett went right at his head. Uncool.
What the fuck ever
Because pitchers back in the day never used to hit people…fuck that bullshit
back in those days, where im sure tex is claiming people played the game the right way, his pathetic ass would be taking a ball in the ribs every ab for the crap he said about the rangers
fuck tex
by Horns130 on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Teix is dead on
Padilla has always been a headcase and a douchebag, on every team he has been on. I still can’t believe the Rangers still locked up that slimy piece of shit to a long term contract.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I hate losses to the Yankees
- Padillas hits werent intentional, he just throws inside and he shortarms like 50% of his pitches so it ends up not anywhere near where he threw it.
- I so wish Evan had been at that press confrence, and right after Tex got done saying “Its just not the way you should play the game” then ask “So then was Burnets pitch at Nellies head wrong also?”
- Rangers win tomorow, 5-3, CD HR, FF gets save.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on Jun 3, 2009 1:00 AM CDT reply actions
I'm so glad Mark Teixeira
the guy who engineered his own exit from Texas is there to teach us all how to play the game the right way. I, for one, was tired of all our players leaving the game after the 7th inning and pitching the ball from third base. That Mark Teixeira, he know how the game should be played!
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I didn't think it possible,
But he’s made me not even care about hating A-Rod. I have nothing to spare, Teixeira absorbs all 100% of my athlete hatred.
That SOB had a look on his face in the dugout like he was the baddest muthafucka after the slide into Elvis. Uber-tool.
Kobe, Osgood, Ryan Sweeney…fly free, my hate is beholden to one man(Using the word ‘man’ loosely).
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Im starting to agree with this..
what a pompous asshole
A Cowboy fan from Dallas residing in enemy terretory since 1990..
Does Padilla fit with this team?
At times i think so, like he shows the young guys some toughness, but after last night, I’ve realized he’s reminding me a lot of Milton Bradley. Kind of AWOL when the team needs him. And despite Bradley’s plate discipline and missing that influence on the other hitters, i think we’re a better team without him. Would it be a bad idea to try to trade Padilla before the deadline, even if we’re in a pennant race? We might be able to get more for him than the compensatory draft pick.
ps, Props to Padilla for plunking Teixeira, That douche deserves every plunk he gets and more, I like what TAG said, either charge the mound or just go to first base, the jawing from the batters box is just a pose.
I don't think the Padzilla stays
If we can trade him for a meaningful BP arm or two I do it at this point. Milly, McCarthy, Feldman, Harrison, Holland isn’t a bad 5 but our depth would suffer a tad.
Ireally hate Teixera
I at least wish Padilla would have turned him into James Earl Jones from the Sandlot.
Fact check
From Teixeira after last nights game – “Unfortunately, when I was a teammate, it happened a lot where he (Padilla) would hit guys. The [Nos.] 3, 4 hitters, those are the guys that get hit for retaliation. And I got hit plenty of times.”
When they played together in Texas, Teixeira got hit once in a game where Padilla hit an opposing batter (May 31, 2007 vs Seattle).
When they played together in Texas (2006-07), Teixeira got hit 7 times in 240 games.
In 2003-05, he got plunked an average of 12 times in 150 games.
And which pitching staff leads MLB in HBP…….your NY Yankees…
So STFU and play baseball
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Jun 3, 2009 9:14 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Fact check
2006 Vicente Padilla leads the league in HBPs
2008 Vicente Padilla is second in the league in HBPs
2009 Vicente Padilla is second in the league in HBPs.
Vicente Padilla has also been a mediocre pitcher during his time as a Ranger, and he has a talent to be one of the better ones in the AL, but he has a 5 cent head.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Somebody's got to be the enforcer on a staff!!
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by inactive lsb user on Jun 3, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Fine then
lets make a HBP an automatic ejection
when the fuck did baseball become such a pussified sport
it is part of the game…he pitches inside and shit happens….walk your fat ass to 1st and shut the fuck up
Have some patience!
This is a year of baby steps for this club, it is purely unknown if they will be able to make it to October or not. If they do then that is gravy. If they don’t then you can bet on a number of things. 1.Vicente Padilla will not be here in 2010. 2.Derek Holland will be in the rotation fulltime in 2010. 3.This is the Angels final legitimate shot at the playoffs for at least a few years. They are long in the tooth, have next to no one ready from the minors, are seeing their starting pitching develop some serious cracks and have stopped spending big bucks on free agency. 4.We should see Neftali Feliz in the bullpen next year, beginning just like Holland has done this year. He does need to locate the 100 MPH heater better though. And don’t make him a closer, he is rotation material. The Rangers will be a dominant club beginning in 2010 and you could very well see something in Arlington that has never been seen before. But have patience in 2009 and know that the playoff drought is about to end big time!
Is there a "good" Padilla?
The guy has lucked into a few good outings this year but has been pretty bad overall. During his last 6 games, he has walked more than he has k’d…and for the season, he has a hideous K/BB ratio.
Sorry – but the guy sucks.
Considering the money he's been paid
he definitely has been mediocre. I think he is exhibit 357 on why its a good idea to pick up or trade for a headcase on a one year deal, but it doesn’t make much sense to extend them. They seem to be on their best behavior the first year, but then they return to being knuckleheads.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I agree...
He hasn’t been even average since 2006. He has sucked so far this year – though facing horrid teams like Seattle and Chicago allowed him to produce a few fluky one-hitters.
The sooner he is shipped out, the better. I just don’t understand why everyone is waiting for him to “turn it around.” He is what he is: a below-average, oft-injured expensive veteran pitcher.
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