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by benmor78 on Jun 20, 2009 12:29 AM CDT
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Hank Blalock? Sign him to 3yrs / $30 million. Also, let's give that contract to Brandon Boggs, too, because I like the cut of his jib.
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benmor,
I’m really proud of you for following thru and doing it right!!
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 12:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Starting the day, there were 27 teams behind us.
How the hell did that happen?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 20, 2009 12:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
And given that the Rangers are in SFO
and that I have a really bad feeling about this roadie…
John Fogerty & CCR greatness…
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYnySGM9dQA
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 12:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OK....
I am firmly planted on the “Send CD back to OKC” bandwagon!!!!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 12:37 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Frisco might be better for him
Pitchers won’t be able to exploit his weaknesses and he can just worry about fixing his swing and building his confidence.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 20, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't care so long as he is sent down
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if that's the rationale
what about malibu grand prix?
i would like to see him spend time in the batting cages there.
the upside is that he could play putt putt and drive cars also.
just once i would love to see that headline…“Chris Davis demoted to Malibu Grand Prix”
by sam in so cal on Jun 20, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this offense sucks
last time Rangers scored more than 6 runs
May 30
last time Rangers gave up 5 runs and won the game
May 22 vs Hou 6-5
This team is living off pitching right now. Thier pitchers are not that good. The only thing good that came from this game was Andus batting second. Now if we can just keep him away from Rudy.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 20, 2009 12:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know alot of people think Rudy is a batting god......
but it is time for him to go
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No.,..
you must be thinking of our offensive (lack of) production!!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Idiot.
Right, ignore a long track record of success because the offense has sucked lately. Genius. If the Rangers fired Jaramillo all of the players and other coaches would be extremely pissed, and the rest of the league would wonder what in the hell they were thinking.
But, at least you would have some satisfactory catharsis.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 20, 2009 8:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
On the other hand
I’m not sure the Rangers offense as a whole has ever produced up to its ability except for perhaps last year, when Jarimillo was absent for most of the season. Was that a coincidence? Maybe it was but what if it wasn’t? None of us can really tell, I guess.
He does seem to do well at reclamation projects and that can be very valuable to a team. You get a guy like Byrd or Matthews and turn them into productive players…there’s value in that. But at what point does the team decide it’s time to stress a smart hitting approach?
I’m still convinced that Hank Blalock, at his core, is a hell of a good hitter. Who is it that’s supposed to get him to ease of his swing and level it out a little? Who’s supposed to tell him that he has natural power and if he waits for his pitch to hit a line drive, the home runs will come? I mean there’s a problem with a player when he’s much better in his second or third season than he is as he approaches 30. Now he might be an example of a player who’s difficult to coach. Okay. So what about the rest of the damn team? To one extent or another all but a couple of them have developed the Blalock approach. Always behind in the count, getting themselves out, letting the opposing pitchers off easy…it’s a fucking mess to watch.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm fine with this line of thinking
but I suspect that the guy I replied to has nowhere near as much thought into this as you do. I agree that Jaramillo may be overrated, but I think Blalock is probably a lot more to blame than Jaramillo for how he turned out.
I find it difficult (not impossible) to believe that so many people in baseball respect Jaramillo and they’re all wrong. It’s not all the ballpark. I think the problem may be more of an organizational tendency to acquire and develop more aggressive hitters than something you can pin on Jaramillo. He is part of that tendency, and maybe he does need to go if they’re going to change that philosophy from top to bottom. But right now he’s awfully entrenched here, and they need to acquire different talent if they want more patient at bats.
Okay. So what about the rest of the damn team? To one extent or another all but a couple of them have developed the Blalock approach. Always behind in the count, getting themselves out, letting the opposing pitchers off easy…it’s a fucking mess to watch.
I agree, but I can’t think of any one of those players who was known for being a walk machine that suddenly changed upon arriving in Arlington. They are all aggressive swingers and getting rid of Jaramillo is not going to change that.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 20, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last Year
…is evidence that they’re not all free swingers. That was a whole MLB season’s worth of proof that the same players can be more patient and get their pitch. I’m not saying they need to walk all the time. They just need to give the pitchers some opposition. They just lay down and take it like a $2 whore. You only have so many at-bats in a game, and you need to make them count. Don’t just sit back and rely on the long ball, which will very rarely come if you’re swinging at crap.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 4:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The difference between this years team
and last years teams has more to do with Batting Average than walks.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 20, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whatever
The reason they’re not hitting like they did last year is because they’re not working the count. Failing to do that will result in fewer walks, but more importantly it will also result in getting shit pitches to hit, which of course results in popouts and groundouts and strikeouts and generally outs of all flavors.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 7:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forgot to say
I think one of the reasons Jaramillo may be so respected are those reclamations. It’s pretty high profile thing when a guy suddenly becomes what he never has been, or gets back even a little bit of something he totally lost. Everybody in baseball notices.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 4:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What about Phil nevin
Brad Fullmer, Richard Hildago…
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 20, 2009 7:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep
But he doesn’t have God-like powers to reanimate ALL dead careers. Lots of players have turned it around here, though…you have to admit that.
Elster. Stevens. I draw a blank on much of these oughts but there’s been Dellucci, Derosa, Byrd, Matthews Jr., and to much lesser degrees Sosa and Andruw Jones.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll just say it...
Fuck the Angels.
Also, fuck the fucking NL West. Can’t beat the fucking Angels but suddenly now they can fucking win.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Jun 20, 2009 12:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it's simple
Tell everyone in the lineup to copy what elvis does. and we win.
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 12:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A team OPS of .709
doesn’t seem as if it would lead to that many wins.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Elvis has the best approach out of anyone on our team.
If they worked counts like he did, and with the power they have a lot of good things would happen.
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boggs
If he can escape the trash can at the back of the rest room.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Josey is right about one thing
Boggs needs to play more. DOWN WITH MARLON BYRD!
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm right about a lot of things
but I have been beating the Brandon Boggs drum since last August.
The kid is not going to play unless there are several injuries.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coming into tonight's game, Andrus had drawn all of 15 walks in 198 PA this season.
He’s struck out 25 times. His OBP was .325, with a BA of .260.
Kinsler, just by comparison, had 298 PA, and twice as many walks (30) against 38 Ks. His BA was .267, and his OBP was .343.
All of that’s without considering slugging.
I like Andrus’s play ~ a lot. But as the effusive praise gives way to exaggeration, I think we need to tap the brakes a bit.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lawd hammercy.
I’m simply saying if our good hitters had the same approach as Elvis things would be better.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I'm saying I think you're making Elvis' approach out to be more than it is.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Think what you want.
I’ll do the same.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is sigh about that?
I think one thing and you think another. Shocking. I believe that happens in life though.
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's trite.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
do you really mean for your sig to say that the Rangers
“can’t take a fucking”?
Just a heads up if it needs to be fixed….
"Andrus...smothers it! HE JUST MADE...THE PLAY OF THE YEAR!" - Josh Lewin 5/4/09
by TXRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Thanks, but I do.
It’s from a Lisa W quote-with-typo in a GDT today. I liked it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah okay,
it is pretty funny…
carry on!
"Andrus...smothers it! HE JUST MADE...THE PLAY OF THE YEAR!" - Josh Lewin 5/4/09
by TXRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus is 20
Kinsler is not
theres your difference
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 20, 2009 12:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm well aware of the age difference. That's not the point, here.
We’re not talking about potential. We’re talking about approaches. I think we’re going all hyperbolic about Andrus’ approach at the plate.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy is 20 years old
And works counts like he is in his prime. In a few years he will be a beast. He has a great approiach at the plate but the results aren’t there just yet. If guys would emulate his approach we would be alot better than we currently are
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 20, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How about the Rangers emulate a 24-year old Andrus' approach, then?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He seems to only really work the count vs. lefties though.
He’s got 10 walks in 62 PA’s against lefties against 5 walks in 136 PA’s against righties. Odd split, but he obviously see’s the ball much better against lefties than righties.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just because he doesn't draw a walk doesn't mean he doesn't work the count
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 20, 2009 1:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup when he strikes out he usually has 2 or 3 balls against him.
Then he swings at a strike but he’s just not a great hitter yet. He misses sometimes.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's also fourth to last on the team in P/PA and 12 points below league average at 3.70.
I don’t think his approach is actually all that great, it just seems good compared to the suckage we’re seeing from the rest of the lineup right now.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If only the team would emulate Chris Davis' approach at the plate,
and take 4 P/PA, this thing would be so much better off.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really kind of sad that Chris Davis, of all people, is third on the team in P/PA
Really sad.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Saltalamacchia is also at 4.
Not a surprise, of course, since both of them strike out so damn much.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's face it...
every batter on this team needs…
1. to be stripped naked
AND
2. beat in the nutsack with a knotted rope,
until they learn patience at the plate.
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I suggested that every hitter on the team who was slumping should be forced to wear garbage sacks until they imrove awhile back
I stand by that.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, but my idea won't kill 'em
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, they can cut a hole for their head to poke through
Spraypaint “Texas” on the front and you’re good to go.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My call: they should threaten to bring back
the two-tone helmets for anyone slumping.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good call.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why hurt the fans, though?
Those abominations were embarrassing!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good point.
Those helmets might actually be more embarrassing than Rangers-branded garbage bags.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Mets
are the only team that make the two-tone look good
"Andrus...smothers it! HE JUST MADE...THE PLAY OF THE YEAR!" - Josh Lewin 5/4/09
by TXRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is getting very mortification of the flesh, here.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And while we're on P/PA
Let me just note that Marlon Byrd’s 3.33 P/PA is fourth to last in the AL. Only Placido Polanco, AJ Peirzynski, and Yuni Betancourt are seeing fewer pitches this year.
Sweet Jesus.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Showing once again
how worthless the stat is.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan
by DJCahill on Jun 20, 2009 4:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah, it's not worthless
You just have to look at it in conjunction with other stats like walk rates and OBP, to see what the guy’s doing with all the pitches he’s seeing. I mean when you strike out 97 times, you’re gonna see a fair amount of pitches.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it is worthless
Here’s a stat that is 100 times more useful in saying what is wrong with this club.
Batting Average.
Last year this team had the highest batting average in the AL, this year they are 9th highest.
There are obviously better stats than BA, but P/PA is such a useless pile of shit stat that BA towers over it. This team could have 1 P/PA if they had a high enough BA on their one freaking pitch.
"Go post a dinosaur in a gameday thread."-Finnerty.Fan
by DJCahill on Jun 20, 2009 8:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're right. But Andrus has a 3.7 P/PA,
which is a direct measure of working the count.
Guess what? Davis is at 4.0, Cruz at 3.9, Kinsler at 3.8, and Young at 3.6.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Couldn't that be because the pitchers are more willing to throw him strikes?
Forcing him to swing?
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He sees all of 2.2 percent more pitches in the zone
than league average. He sees 5.6 percent more first-pitch strikes than league average, though, which suggests he might want to swing at a few more of them than he is.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also swings at 3 percent fewer pitches in the zone
than league average, so there goes that hypothesis.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That should read "2 percent."
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know obviously since all of the stats go against me.
His approach is probably not as good as I think. But his approach in the ninth and really all game was. If everyone took his approach in the ninth or the entire game. I’m willing to bet we wouldn’t have lost.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
See, that was a nice, constructive comment.
Like I wrote below, I was impressed by Andrus at the plate tonight. And as I wrote above, I think we could stand to tap the brakes a bit on the rest of it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
That sums it up pretty well, I think.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You little guys that drank too much last night...
….gotta let you know now because I’m gonna out most of the day and possibly the evening as well.
(Snark, this applies mostly to you)…the best hangover cure is to drink two Dr.Peppers, go get in a major workout (2 hours basketball + 30 minutes StairMaster) where you sweat everything out and then get ya’ a nice big plate of Mexican food (Blue Goose works really well).
Get some runs tonight and let’s see some more Brandon Boggs.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 6:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kinsler really sucks against RHP's right now though.
Then again, so does Elvis.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 12:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yup.
Again, I love Elvis’ play. He’s been amazing, especially ~ especially ~ for a 20-year old kid.
But trying to turn his approach into something magical is taking things a bit far.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
Who is saying it’s magical? What a nut job. There is no such thing as magic.
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, for the luvva Pete O'Brien.
Get a grip. Or a clue. Or something.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll try my best.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're posting baby pictures now?
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Weak sauce.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey your dad worked with the sauce he had.
Obviously it didn’t produce that great of product. But don’t insult him by calling his sauce weak.
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by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
That's, umm, very clever.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tradeja
Two units of Elvis love for one redeemable coupon to permit Scott Feldman to get through a lineup multiple times. I screamed curses when he was left out there one inning too long. Unfortunately, my television does not transmit to AT&T Park.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm becoming more and more of a believer in feldman
both those homeruns were on good pitches. double by molina was in off the plate. that was just some good hitting or bad game planning/scouting. he put it where it was called.
by SteveP on Jun 20, 2009 1:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ought to be
But still have the same nagging doubt despite his stellar starters’ W-L this season. And love his tenacity, he simply doesn’t blow up. Still, will he ever get more than 5 successful innings done regularly?
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd figure you for a patient man
Feldman still hasn’t been a starter for very long. He’s been completely overhauled. It’ll take a little time.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nah
I think you’re not looking at it the right way. You can’t really look at the numbers yet because Andrus is way out of his league as a hitter. He’ll never be as good as Kinsler even when he has Kinsler’s experience.
What people are saying is if talented players like Kinsler were willing to take the approach that Elvis has, they’d be better hitters for it. Andrus makes the other pitcher get him out most of the time. The other Rangers simply try to do too much.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're not understanding what I'm saying.
Andrus had great ABs last night. And he’s had a good approach at the plate this season. But in terms of what people have been talking about ~ working counts, taking pitches, and so forth ~ he’s had his ups and downs, and I haven’t seen anything (on the field or in the stats) that leads me to believe Kinsler needs to “copy” what Andrus is doing in those aspects of the game. The same goes for some, though not all, of the other Rangers.
Now, granted, one thing Andrus has been doing that Kinsler is struggling with is going with the pitch and using the opposite field ~ but after looking at Andrus’ hit chart, I think this is also a bit overblown. I’d argue that if Kinsler’s going to model himself on another Ranger in this respect, it should be Young, not Andrus.
Look, I love Andrus. I’m just saying we need to tap the brakes a bit on lauding his approach as a team-wide paradigm.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok
Well maybe not Andrus’ approach specifically, but hopefully they watched last night and learned something. I doubt it, but I can hope.
There are only a few players I’ve seen who could swing at just about anything and still be productive. Pudge Rodriguez. Vladimir Guerrero. Most hitters will hit pitches in the strikezone better. Pretty simple shit. Easier said than done, but at least make an attempt to put the concept to work. Other teams do.
by Black Francis on Jun 20, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you ar eoversiplifying a bit
Elvis is going to get a FB on a 3-2 count, Kinsler may not. Different hitters get different approaches by the pitcher.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 20, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I'm saying is nowhere near as much of an oversimplification
as arguing that the Rangers should all adopt Andrus’ approach at the plate.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 12:41 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I missed it but
Why is Willingham in your avatar?
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 20, 2009 12:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he's trying to send Daniels a not-so-subliminal message.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because .374 OBP's and 14.1 BB/9's make my baseball pants tight.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's nice but this team has bigger
problems than upgrading in left.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 20, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This team needs a high OBP/SLG guy
Who can DH and play some 1B. Willingham is that guy. If we don’t get him or someone like him to take some pitches, mash lefties and protect Hamilton like Bradley did last year, we’re doomed.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha i feel special just
posting while Bens in charge
My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos
by cowpoke on Jun 20, 2009 12:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
seriously...
adam does need a vacation
I’m thinking adam and bethany need to go on a week long cruise.
My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos
by cowpoke on Jun 20, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bouncing around youtube late at night after your team lost and ya have a few drinks in ya'...
…..I’m throwing a few late Friday/early Saturday videos out there -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYnySGM9dQA
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 12:53 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
oh yeah
had to put my head phones on.. just cranked it up
good choice
My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos
by cowpoke on Jun 20, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Love this song and the Rangers are in California...
but the lyrics may be better.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcMsB3mYPMs
I’d like to dream
My troubles all away
On a bed of California stars
Jump up from my starbed
Make another day
Underneath my California stars
They hang like grapes
On vines that shine
And warm the lovers’ glass
Like friendly wine
Greatness.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 1:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also good
Flipped the search and got this
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=manxPVTLth8
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice call, Eddie C. A song that got better with age.
I’m gonna rock your Pink Floyd soul with a dash of my Irish (Van Morrison).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CirSD6p1uFs
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good
First time I’ve played that version. I have to associate Waters’ composition and great lyrics (the child is grown, the dream is gone) with David Gilmour’s incredible guitar.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0wtiNzci1Wc&feature=related
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
enjoyed that
nice one JW.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 20, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feeling my California roots
(I lived there until I was 12 years old)….
this is another good one -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA_FHuPwFeQ
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 1:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, you're on a roll
what you got next?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 20, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tricer,
Didja catch V.Morrison above I gave Eddie C?
Latch on to this beauty from The Glimmer Twins -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcrjv1O7FFw
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 1:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
One more, just because it's a great timeless song
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jcrjv1O7FFw
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Best choice of the night JW.
I love when the Stones do country. Now, where’s my needle and spoon, and another girl to chase my pain away?
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 20, 2009 1:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sometimes
…late at night, I just like it fuckin’ hard.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=on6uLQDLAlE
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 20, 2009 2:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Genius
“This is a story from Johnny Rotten…”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 20, 2009 2:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
sig worthy
There's more to the picture than meets the eye.
by tricer on Jun 20, 2009 2:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The hard version"
I quite enjoyed that Todd, thanks!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 20, 2009 8:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: remember when this community...
…voted Michael Main a better prospect than Elvis? Interesting discussion not that long ago here. Another one here.
Just thought it was interesting to look back at how Andrus was viewed around here just a few months ago. Plus it’s a nice distraction from this shitty spell right now.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 20, 2009 1:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think too many people
anticipated how solid he’s been with the stick.
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Jun 20, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good stuff.
Especially by me.
Honestly I feel like I’m overranking putting him at #6 on my list.
I want him to be our next ace in waiting, and I think there’s a decent possibility he can be a guy like that.
I just haven’t seen enough to feel comfortable putting hi ahead of guys like Max and Andrus.
Lemme ask you this, where did you have him before Jason Parks and M.J. Hindman ran a dirty man-love train on him after fall instructs?
Obviously Max has struggled so far so that part of it makes me look not so smart (though I think Max will hit once he gets right, that’s neither here nor there), but I always felt like we were getting way too hot and bothered by all those glowing reports about Main making the leap in FIL.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 20, 2009 1:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
a lot of people think more highly of Andrus now
than they did then. At least they should. I got a kick out of reading those threads, seems like longer ago than it actually was.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 20, 2009 1:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scooter hitting 96 on the gun tonight
where the hell did that come?
made some good pitches that were absolutely hammered.
by SteveP on Jun 20, 2009 1:06 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hes hit 96 several times
Nothing new here
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 20, 2009 1:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i haven't seen it
certainly not with that regularity. unless the gun was juiced. had his cutter at 93 pretty regularly. krukow gushing over his stuff.
by SteveP on Jun 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nadel and Barnett where musing that the gun might be juiced when Brian Wilson his 98 a couple times in the 9th inning
But who knows.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
*hit
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He threw it hard for Jesus, bro!!!
Gotta get the game over fast so you can put on your Affliction shirt for Christ, bro!!!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 20, 2009 1:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Wilson is one of those types?
Good lord.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really
I live up hear and hadn’t heard it. He did get in a little trouble for tweeting about being out drinking one night (actually early morning) and then blowing his first save the next day.
by NorCalRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmn
So he’s a right-handed CJ Wilson then.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
because cj goes out and gets wasted so much?
who gives an F if a guy twitters.
Im sure lots of ballplayers twitter, hell shaq twitters all the time
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 20, 2009 9:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just ment they're both jackasses who hide under the "eccentric" label, but in different fashions
But whatever.
You’re right, it doesn’t really matter as long as they can get outs. It’s when they stop getting outs that it gets annoying.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I contributed to the "Andrus approach" debate,
which started in the GDT.
I, for one, was referring to Andrus’ approach at the plate in THIS game only. I recognize that Elvis isn’t the end-all-be-all P/PA guy, but in this game his approach was definitely indicative of what I’d like to see more of from the rest of the team.
"Andrus...smothers it! HE JUST MADE...THE PLAY OF THE YEAR!" - Josh Lewin 5/4/09
by TXRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:27 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Andrus looked good at the plate tonight, no doubt about it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm wrong,
but his plate approach seems to get better every game.
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guess we'll find out later today.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or not omar is playing.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 20, 2009 1:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I get so disappointed everytime I learn that Vizquel is playing in place of Elvis.
That speaks volumes about Elvis, or at least my man-crush on him.
"Andrus...smothers it! HE JUST MADE...THE PLAY OF THE YEAR!" - Josh Lewin 5/4/09
by TXRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Same.
I love Elvis.
I just don’t think he’s any kind of offensive catalyst, at least not yet.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 1:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He will be in 2011,
when Face is gone
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's had his ups and downs at the plate, even recently.
He’s 20 years old, so that’s to be expected. He’s already something special, and it’s spooky to think about what he could be in a few years…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 20, 2009 1:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't tell if our hitters
have any plan at the plate, except grip it and rip it.
by SteveP on Jun 20, 2009 1:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that is a golf phrase,
but then again, CD’s swing is more golf than baseball
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 20, 2009 1:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm so glad I'm out of town this weekend or I'd be at the games
Wearing my Rangers haberdashery would be embarasing.
by NorCalRangersFan on Jun 20, 2009 1:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know which is worse......
that game or the fact I have 8 in-laws (5 kids) sitting in my living room right now, stuffing their faces with Kolaches, getting crumbs everywhere.
Sorry boys, the game hurts, but this kills.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Jun 20, 2009 6:54 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, I'm about to head out to my family reunion... 100 strong people, 80-90 of them I want nothing to do with, ever.
Ugh.
This is the biggest beating of the year, every year.
And this year it’s at my parents crib so I have to stay the whole fucking time.
I’m considering harming myself to get out of this.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 20, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hyperbole family reunion
At least there should be plenty of little ones around for you to punt. Make the best of it.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 20, 2009 8:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
National Lampoon
Should have done a “Family Reunion” as well as the vacation thing.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think you're onto something , ..
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by Chase Irwin on Jun 20, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sounds like a blast!
you can entertain them by talking about your sweet fantasy baseball moves and punting babies.
DUDE baby punting competitions!
Now that I think about it, I dont think I even know more than 25 of my relatives much less 100
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 20, 2009 9:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn man
I have no idea what I’d do if I had to go to a family reunion of 100 people.
I think I’d run. You know, the hit the road with a suitcase and a gun and rob liquor stores all the way to the Mexican border kind of running.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 20, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
100? Sounds like one of our reunions, maybe we're related...
It’ll be fine in about 58 mins, or when I start to get liquored up.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
by Ryin A on Jun 20, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes. I know none of these fucking people.
It’s horrible.
We have name tags.
If I have to wear a name tag for you to know who I am, why the fuck would you want to know how I’ve been?
Bleck.
Which is why I’ve snuck off and holed myself off in the computer room until I get drunk enough to deal with it all.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 20, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like we're suffering vicariously through you.
Don’t try to drag us into this.
As a token response to stupid questions, use “saving the world” as your auto pilot.
Maybe if you wear a name tag that says “FML,” people will know you better.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by Chase Irwin on Jun 20, 2009 4:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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