Missing Player Alert
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 20, 2009 11:00 AM CDT
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PrintHave you seen this man?
He has been missing for approximately two weeks. There are rumors of a sighting in San Francisco yesterday evening, but that cannot be confirmed.
If you locate him, please contact Ron Washington immediately and inform him of his whereabouts.
Thank you.
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If someone did it to me...
I don’t even know if I would be mad. I think I would just laugh, and then try and convince somebody else to clean it up.
As would I.
Donovan from BaDD radio did it to his wife, she freaked out. Oh man, it was so damn funny! I tried to find the audio, I couldn’t. Maybe someone else can and lnk it here.
“You need to quit hanging around all those damn white people!!!”
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Because Wash...
loves him some Jones, Murphy, and Byrd.
It drives me nuts. Boggs isn’t this teams savior, but he should at least be starting against lefties and be PHing more than he has been. Or how about even using him as a defensive replacement late in games for crying out loud.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
Especially given that Boggs' strengths as a hitter
are exactly what this team needs right now- strike-zone management, OBP, and hitting lefties.
If only his face was as good as Byrd’s.
Byrd's weaknesses
strike zone management, obp and hitting lefties
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Byrd's wekanesses:
Baseball
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jun 20, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
er, weaknesses:
Baseball
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jun 20, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions
jesus this is the typo subthread
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 20, 2009 4:33 PM CDT up reply actions
You are a terd.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I've never
understood the overweight athlete. Mgmt ought to fine any and all fat asses, except for the O-line in football.
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jun 20, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Aren't they the most likely to be overweight?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 20, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions
oline
are actually the ones that do have weight limits and clauses. the other positions do, but aren’t nearly as stringent.
"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...
At least murph actually did something to get some fans with that great debut.
Why does boggs have such a following? He wasn’t exactly topping our prospect lists this offseason.
He should probably play more often against lefties, but it would just be by default, he doens’t have great lefty splits or anything.
the preceding post was a great success.
He had pretty darn good lefty splits in the minors.
And he’s a patient hitter with plus defensive chops.
He strikes out too much and doesn’t have enough sock to ever be a real force out there, but he should be used more than he currently is, imo.
I think Jones is pretty close to being done, and we have three hitters (Murphy, Hankles and CD) who should never bat against a lefty.
But mostly it’s backup quarterback syndrome.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 20, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions
"But mostly it’s backup quarterback syndrome."
People are going to be really disappointed when Boggs starts playing more against lefties and doesn’t end up having an OPS in the .900s against them.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
If he has a OPS
in the high 700s its still a massive upgrade over what Murphy does against lefties.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I'll take my chances with Murphy
To try and develop him into a decent hitter against lefties. I would like to see Murphy have one complete season in the Majors before forcing him into a full time platoon role. With his patience at the plate right now, I think he can develop into a mid .700 OPS against them. Boggs might still do better than that, but it isn’t going to be costing this team any games right now.
The guy that should be losing playing time to Boggs is Byrd and probably Jones too who isn’t really doing his job against lefties.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
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I’ll take my chances with Murphy To try and develop him into a decent hitter against lefties.
Why?
He turns 28 at the end of the year — he’s only a year younger than Hank F. Blalock.
He didn’t hit lefties in the minors.
He isn’t hitting lefties in the majors.
He played against lefties quite a bit last year and wasn’t good against them, and has been every worse against them right now.
I don’t understand why people are so convinced there’s any sort of chance Murphy is going to be anything better than what he is, which is a 4th outfielder who should never play against a LHP.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 20, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Do we have to go over this each time?
He has a bit more than one season’s worth of playing time in the Majors and only has 189 PAs against lefties in the Majors. I don’t care that he’s turning 28 at the end of the year, I want him to be able to have one complete season in the Majors before putting him in a full time platoon role.
And using Murphy’s minor league numbers is far from relevant. The guy has been much better in the majors than he ever was in the minors. If you want to look at his minor league numbers, you would be expecting him to get much worse against righties too.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
One quibble about use
Boggs in LF is a valid defensive replacement. Murph has one “off the scoreboard” catch to his credit, but has neither Boggs’ range nor arm. Any time you are ahead in a game in the 7th inning or beyond, a defensive replacement makes sense. I’d cast Boggs the far better all around player than Murph, statistics or no.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Boggs' Arm
Very few people have an arm like Boggs. The image below comes from a Hardball Times article from last year. Players that have a high vertical score exceed at throwing runners out. Players with a high horizontal score are good at holding runners. Boggs was pretty damn good last year.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 20, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
So they ran on Boggs
an avg amout of time but he threw them out at an exceedingly high rate. Likewise, runners seldom took the extrea base on Ankiel but when they did the had avg success.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
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What reason is there to believe that Murphy will hit LHPs if given a full season in the majors playing every day?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 20, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I think it is the same thinking
that folks used to use on Blalock when he was a rookie and Buck sat him versus lefties.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I think that made more sense
Blalock was a very young player who was a top prospect coming up through the system, and appeared to be a star in the making.
Murphy is a guy who was a disappointment for several years, but has bounced back and carved out a career for himself as a 4th outfielder during what are his peak seasons.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 20, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions
murphy isnt going to suddently turn into a lefty killer
its like the ppl who wanted elvis at AAA this year, its not like he was gonna learn how to play better defense
at this point, m urphy is what murphy is. a 4th oF.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 6:40 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah,
I think its insanely wishful thinking to hope Murph will ever be worth a damn versus lefties. Stick him as a platoon OF though, and he looks OK.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Gagree
I understand the sentiment of giving Murph more time to develop as a full-time player, but the argument for it seems to boil down to ‘Maybe magic will happen and he’ll hit lefties good! Magic already happened when he got kinda good when he came here!’.
And his platoon BFF is on the roster right now- Boggsy and Murph is an awesome platoon set, until and unless Borbon forces his way into the everyday CF spot or Cruz drops off the face of the planet or gets traded.
The problem is Wash, Rudy, JD, or Nolan (or all of them) seem to be in the ‘Maybe magic will happen’ camp.
His minor splits versus lefties
0.284/0.391/0.562 OPS 0.953
Its just plain silly not to have him in against lefties. I don’t think he’s gonna be an everyday starter or anything, but as bad as this team hits lefties, there is definitely a place for him til Hamilton gets back.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I had seen that he had meh splits this year in the minors and last year in the majors
And couldn’t remember where to see previous years minor league splits… obviously he did very well in those years. Thanks for the info.
That line is much more intriguing of course. Still, I don’t think its a great injustice that there have been 6-8 starts vs lefties he probably should have been in and wasn’t and its more about the guys we have being bad against lefties than any belief he will come in and help the offense.
the preceding post was a great success.
probably
but i don’t know how we can say that with such finality. and now we are looking to guys like murphy and boggs.
Was the JMJ move roster driven? It doesn’t really make sense given how we are using golson.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
It was driven...
…of a belief that the Rangers were rife with COF types like JMJ.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 20, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
or was it driven
because JMJ simply wasnt that good and was pretty damn old.
JMJ ‘s ceiling < golson’s ceiling
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 6:41 PM CDT up reply actions
Topaz alert
Like an Amber alert
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Serious question
Did Boggs do something to get in Washington’s doghouse? This year or last year? Or is Boggs truely just the 25th man on the roster that will only play if the Rangers are up or down by a dozen runs?
He certainly can’t be much worse than the bad streak the Rangers offense is having now, as you can’t go much lower.
He has got to be hurt
I swear Wash loved Boggs last year. I know he was hurt the beginning of the season, and I’ll bet money he is nursing some injury that is keeping Wash from running him out there more often.
Of course, I have no visible evidence or proof of this.
He's been in the dugout all this time
And yes he pinch hit yesterday and that is confirmed. Go look at the box score. He’s not missing and never was(this year).
wow
you have absolutely no sarcasm detector?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
sarcasm detector..
that’s a real useful invention
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 20, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions
well i'm not referring to a real machine, just a ...
Hey! I see what you did there.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Yikes
is the sun going to shine tomorrow?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 20, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Everywhere but in LSBLand, evidently, by some of the posters here.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Well see, he's in the dugout
And drew a timely walk PH’ing in SFO last night. But there’s a cruely joke involved. Andruw Jones and David Murphy swiped a “Do Not Disturb” hotel door sign from the St. Francis, and sticky it to the dugout wall right above Boggs’ seat. And you know Wash, a tidy, law and order guy …. and courteous … does what the sign says.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 20, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Free Erubial Durazo while we're at it!
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
Just reading up on Delmon
the deal for him and Garza also had Bartlett going to TB? Wow.
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he has just been a colossal disappointment
i dont think anyone could have imagined him being this bad. plus the twins have a lot of young pitching so garza was theoretically expendable, provided the return was any good. it could end up looking like a big swindle though.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 20, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
The dude still has insane talent
Obviously if the price is right, I would not mind taking a flyer on him and seeing if he could put it all together here.
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i wouldnt be opposed to that possibility. the way people talked about longoria before last year reminded me of the way they talked about delmon when he was first coming up. the only problem is, even if rudy is able to reform him, youve still got the kind of hitter that we have too many of, a guy who strikes out a lot and doesnt take many walks.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jun 20, 2009 3:52 PM CDT up reply actions
jason bartlett
MVP of TB last year according to their brillant manger
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
The Twins are a smart ballclub in a ton of ways, but the Garza/Johan deals were both epic fails.
Although I’ll admit I like C-Gomez much more than most.
His defense is so ridiculously good in CF I think they’re a much, much better team with him on the field, OBP-woes considered.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions
Lastings. Milledge.
Gnome saying?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions
how about
vs right handers…
murph
kins
cruz
blalock
jones
davis
young
salty
andrus
vs left handers…
andrus
young
kinsler
cruz
boggs
salty
byrd
jones
davis
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
I have no idea.
You need to run that by Ryan, since he makes ALL decisions involving the Rangers.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
will do
need to go over wash’s head. screw chain of command
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
either
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
It should be S
for seldom
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
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