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Who can we get in the lineup by tomorrow that's not on the team tonight?
Ephesians 3:20-21...and I can only imagine
Julio Franco would probably jump at the opportunity
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
Well, something has to be done to jumpstart this offense
this is getting unreal
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
RW is just going to say that
they moved Murphy and Andus to bat 2nd and we need to give it time to work. Or some BS like that.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
This team is terrible.
I hate them.
I hope they all die.
Seriously.
I wish them painful deaths.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
+26 untimely deaths
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by studcrackers on Jun 20, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This is such bullshit
A fucking wild pitch?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Like I said
I kinda felt that coming on. Jennings was actually trying to bury every pitch in the dirt, and sooner or later…
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
why do you insist on being a tool 24/7?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Well
It hardly seems to add anything to the catharsis that lonestarjon saw it coming.
It’s kind of annoying, actually.
by brettgardner on Jun 20, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
just use the trollscript if it bothers you so much
otherwise getthefuckoverit
like i said, no need to be a tool
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions
How about
Taking your own advice? Jesus, I’ve never seen a guy with a bigger hard-on for low-IQ snipes at me.
Just fuck off and ignore me if my brand of posting is so distasteful to you.
by brettgardner on Jun 20, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
you think its person?
wrong, i just see no need for someone to always be a tool
get the stick out of your ass and get over it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
and thats a high IQ snipe?
nice
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions
I never claimed
To have a high IQ.
You’d be well-served to refrain from that claim yourself.
by brettgardner on Jun 20, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions
no you never claimed it
you just act like your smarter than everyone else all the time — and made the low IQ comment earler
like i said, no need to be a consistant tool
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
x
you just act like your smarter than everyone else all the time
You’re right. When I refer to myself as a stupid person, I’m really staging a meta-joke with layers of irony that your pea brain can’t begin to comprehend.
It’s a sign of genius, really.
Now that you’ve had your tantrum, can you kindly fuck off?
by brettgardner on Jun 20, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:59 PM CDT up reply actions
Sorry
I was just making an observation. Losing that game just seemed pretty inevitable.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
But the 24/7 defeatist gets old, too.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 20, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
Eh, not trying to be a 24/7 defeatist
But after we stranded those runners in the 10th and 11th…
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Yeah man, I get it.
Everything sucks right now. Every aspect.
Nothing to single out any more, so just let it go. The team will regress eventually.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 20, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions
something must change
trade for johnson
trade for laroche
call up smoak
need to change something up, and no switching davis for blalock isnt just enough.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
I... I'm just in shock.
I’m numb.
This is unbelieveable.
Something must be done about this offense.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
need to do something
johnson, willingham, laroche, smoak, someone
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions
First of all, Davis needs to go down.
No more excuses. He can’t hack it in the majors right now, and he’s draining the life out of this already cathartic offense.
I’d send him down tomorrow if it where up to me. I’m done defending him.
Second, we need to bench Marlon fucking Byrd. He sucks donkey dick at getting on base.
Third… well, it’s still a bit too early to be pulling off any trades, but I think we need to try. Willingham is the ideal target, but he’s on the bereavment list because his brother just got killed in a car crash.
Pulling off a LaRoche/Snell deal is looking pretty appealing right about now.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
+1 on marlon byrd
davis is davis, i dont think theres that much difference btwn him and blalock honestly
byrd does need to sit the fucking bench. can boggs play CF?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, he supposedly used to be a good CFer in the minors
MJH used to rave about his CF skills.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
well i hope he plays 2m vs zito (?i think?)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:49 PM CDT up reply actions
He better
Cause Byrd hasn’t been worth shit versus lefties this year.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I honestly don't give a crap
if our only other way to fill the slot is to get Sammy Sosa back and make him the LH side of the platoon for Hank.
I am just done with our 1B being a black hole of suck offensively
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
i just feel like breaking things.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
JD needs to pull the trigger and get a bat in here
I don’t know who is out there but he needs to find them quick.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
quick isnt fast enough
like yesterday
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This is exactly the wrong decision.
You don’t give up the farm for the chance at having a chance this year. Don’t knee-jerk and give up too much, we’ve played that game before to disaster.
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
Did I say anything
About giving up the farm? There are bats out there that won’t cost the farm.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
And they are...
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
Did you read my post?
I said I don’t know who but I’m sure they are out there.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Even if you just ask for Willingham or someone like that...
they are going to ask for a high upside arm in the trade plus more
do you give up Main or Kiker (or another pitcher in that group) for a solid, but nothing special, hitter
I stand by what ive said all along…call up smoak
You don't think
there are other teams looking for bats as well? The price will be high.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
that said
you alienate the fan base by coming across like your not doing anything
+ the rangers have a serious chance to make the playoffs
id trade maxram/kiker/??? for something
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh
I just dont feel like giving up guys who have a chance to be special for a decent hitter
also, this lineup will be fine imo…it is just a team-wide slump but i still think they will crawl their way out of it
...come on
take off your rangers colored glasses (hard to do, for me sometimes) — maxram is not recognized as a someone who has a chance to be a special hitter by nearly anyone else in baseball
we HOPE he turns into a nick johnson or josh willingham — and kiker is nothing special either btw
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree
The difference is though that we would have both of them for 6 years…at least
Also, do you not agree that Kiker could be a middle of the rotation type?
no i do not
kiker is a solid prospect, but a lot would have to change for him to be a middle of the rotation guy
eventually i think his spot is in the bullpen
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
I hope when I wake up tomorrow,
I hear Chris Davis is on his way to Frisco, or Hickory or Spokane or whereever.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
frisco i bet
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
even bring in derosa
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
That's Salty's job
But that bounce was nasty. Great pitching tonight, though.
Angels lost. Afternoon game tomorrow. All is fine.
kling klang king of the rim ram room
all is fine?
3 hits in 11 innings? all is fine? 1 for 28 to end the game? all is fine?
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Salty
played great, I thought. That pitch was a fluke for him tonight.
We can only blame the hitting tonight. Giving up 2 runs in 11 innings? That’s a good day.
He did everything right on that pitch...
If another balls go in the dirt some of them will get away…that one just took one of those nasty hops
?????
FeMaLes?
F’ing Manless Losers?
First-place Means Little?
where are you going with this?
Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.
-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 21, 2009 7:05 AM CDT up reply actions
x
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I honestly...
would have been hurt more by a walk off homerun.
I actually found this kind of humorous.
Not to mention, with the offense we have, if our pitching could have held up, we would have made it to 18 or 19 innings tonight.
and still lost
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions
ok so why
is this thing not updating?
go here to view my blog: http://dirtfromd.blogspot.com
One of the ad servers isn't loading. Look at your status bar.
Either refresh or do what I did and install Ad Block Plus for Firefox which solved the problem.
"Let me tell you something my friend. Hope is a dangerous thing. Hope can drive a man insane." ---Red, The Shawshank Redeption
Yup.
Adblock plus pwns.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
On the bright side
At least Derek Holland looked like he had his head screwed on straight tonight.
I’m extremely proud of his outing, even if it was agains the Giants.
Our offense let him down however, and they should be waterboarded for it.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
At least Derek Holland looked like he had his head screwed on straight tonight.
Outstanding job by Holland. Had good command of his pitches. They just need to keep him in the rotation.
I never ever ever ever ever thought our pitching could be this good.
and our hitting be this bad.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
I say after the game tomorrow, put the pitchers on the plane
and make everyone else ride a bus to Arizona
I'm game
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
+1
no reason not to put out a feeler
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:51 PM CDT up reply actions
Well, that seals it.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 12:07 AM CDT up reply actions
If you sell it to him
as a chance to give the middle finger to everyone in baseball, he’d probably do it for free.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Wasn't he on the record as saying he'd play this season for the minimum?
But say both parties were interested, how long would it take him to get “ready”?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 12:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I got a suspicion he's been hitting regularly.
I don’t think it would take that guy long at all.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
How long does it take for a cycle to kick in?
And does he have a way to get around the current testing?
Cause at his age with all that rust… would you really want a clean and natural Barry Bonds hitting for this team?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 1:18 AM CDT up reply actions
I can't answer the first 2.
As far as the third, yep. I’ll take his eyes at this point.
Plus, that guy became addicted to working out. Them ‘roids don’t do it by themselves.
Maybe RHenderson/JFranco productive w/ the great eye.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
if the alternative
is Chris Davis, I’d take my chances.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
thres a LOT out there thats untracable.
i guarantee you hes in on it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
That'd be pretty ballsy at this point.
For a guy in his legal position to be dabbling around in steroids at this point is not the smartest thing in the world, imo.
But you’re right that there are always people two steps ahead of the testers, and if Bonds wanted to get in touch with them I’m sure he’s got the connections to get the next level shit if he wanted it by the end of the day.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
the second part was more my point
that he COULD get it — sry
are you pro bonds?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions
Not really "Pro" Bonds cause I think he's a douche and wouldn't really enjoy rooting for him... but I'd accept him if we brought him in cause I think he'd likely help us win.
I think he’s an asshole, but to hate a guy like him just because you hate steroids (and, btw, I do hate steroids… I hate what they’ve done to the game in the big picture) is case of hating the player when you should be hating the game.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
hey email me whatever you have been emalining
the commish dude — he says he hasnt gotten an email from you since wed
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I just fired one off to him this morning.
I checked my sent folder and didn’t see a copy of the last one I had sent out to him, so I’m thinking I did what I sometimes do and hit send and then logged off while it was still “sending” and it didn’t go through, cause I have no record of it but I know I wrote it, damn it.
So, yah, I think it’s my own dumbass fault.
But he should have a brand new message in his folder as of about two hours ago.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions
at this point...
hell no i don’t want a clean barry bonds. I want him so fucking roided up that his arms are about to pop. I will buy him his roids and take his piss tests for him
by trgordon723 on Jun 21, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't know what to say
But if you’re comparing Sosa to Bonds… You should be shot.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
Then get a gun
Both would be major mistakes. The Rangers do not need a disruptive personality who cares nothing about his team in the dugout.
by Mark from OC on Jun 21, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions
Milton Bradley
says hi
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
And CJ Wilson waves from the bullpen.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I'm in a bad mood.
Fuck you and your CJ hate LSJ. You don’t have any proof that says CJ is a bad clubhouse guy. ZERO.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
Uh
What about the time he singlehandedly blasted the entire clubhouse last spring?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Douchebag-gate.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Like I said
You have zero proof. You’re going to suggest that he’s a bad clubhouse guy by that? Really?
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
Eh, whatever.
I’m in a bad mood too, and I don’t really have anything to back it up, but I just think he’s a self-centered ass.
Fortunately he’s a self-centered ass who’s pitching pretty good again (finally), which was my point: if they perform well, it doesn’t really matter if they’re jerks. That is unless they tow media circuses around behind them like Manny and Barry.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
He never blasted the whole clubhouse.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 12:56 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, it was more like all ballplayers everywhere, as I recall.
Which the clubhouse happened to consist of.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
It was an innoucuous comment about them being douchebags, himself included.
It was meant as a sort of half-serious joke that some of the negative humor guys in the clubhouse took offense to.
It was nowhere near a blast.
Like when I walk up to a group of my friends and say, “What’s up, you donkey raping pieces of shit?”
I’m not actually accusing them of raping donkey or being shit pieces.
And it was NOT an example of someone “blasting” their own clubhouse.
It just wasn’t.
There was no harmful intent, and there was no hate behind the words.
Simply a problem of communicating between one generation (where douchebag means one thing) and another (where douchebag is a grave insult).
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Well, I don't really wanna argue about it
But let me just say the way I remember it was he was criticizing other ballplayers for not thinking and caring about the political process. He didn’t include himself in that.
But whatever. That’s far from the only reason I think the guys a showboat, that’s just the one that sticks out the most.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Hmmm.
"It’s frustrating," says C.J. Wilson, the 27-year-old Texas relief pitcher. "I’d say there are two reasons. One, there’s a general lack of education among us. But two — and most important — you’re talking about a population that makes a ton of money, so the ups and downs of the economy don’t impact whether we’re getting paid. Therefore, we often don’t care."
Wilson stares blankly when asked who among his teammates he can talk with about Decision ‘08.
"No one," he says. "I keep it to myself."
Come on man you have to admit the median or average guy in a baseball clubhouse does drive an SUV, drinks beer, golfs, likes college sports, chews or dips tobacco and is relatively a douchebag.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Hmmm.
What?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 1:06 AM CDT up reply actions
Hmmm, those comments don't read to me
as sort of half-serious jokes. If that’s how he intended them, I’d say he screwed the pooch, royally.
I don’t really give a shit if Wilson’s an asshole or not, as long as it doesn’t hurt the team’s performance. But I don’t agree with your assessment of his comments.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Good for you.
The first one, yah, maybe.
I think he’s making a salient point in the first part that’s made far worse by that last little comment about having no one he can talk to about the election.
The second comment was an off the cuff comment made when talking about the jock culture in the clubhouse and was taken way too seriously.
It’s the same kind of shit most of us would say about our co-workers if asked about them in an informal situation.
The only real problem there to me is that he made them in public and they were taken around to people who didn’t understand the context and then a big deal came out of it.
Stupid.
Mainly I think people just don’t like CJ the person for whatever reason so they project on him and take every opportunity to jump down his throat with shit like this and it makes me sick.
So fuck you, ass hole.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 1:15 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Oh, the political commentary
is definitely a salient point, and I’d imagine a fairly accurate one.
Given Wilson’s “Straight Edge” life philosophy, I’m not so sure he wasn’t serious about the second comment, too. Still, I think the whole “Douchebaggate” thing was overblown, and again, I really don’t give a shit unless it hurts the team on the field.
I have no emotional investment in the Rangers being best friends when they win their first World Series. I leave that sort of crap to Red Sox fans.
And so yeah, fuck you too, douchebag.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
what if what he said was true
id wager that it was
and you know what, all that happened was that it was somewhat proven true
the team could have laughed it off, but choose to make a big broohaha out of it.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 9:53 AM CDT up reply actions
Are you comparing Bradley to Bonds?
Which one do you think his former teammates would say is more disruptive? I know Bradley have on and off the field problems, as did Manny Ramirez, but was Bradley disruptive all the time to his own team?
by Mark from OC on Jun 21, 2009 12:45 AM CDT up reply actions
Bradley
routinely blasted every team he has played for, from the Indians to the Dodgers to the As to the Padres to the Rangers.
Barry Bonds is an asshole, but my god if he’s not an awesomely talented asshole. I think this team should be strong enough to deal with a few assholes, especially if those assholes help them win games
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Board is jumping weird tonight
Apologize for the typos.
I know Bradley blasted the Rangers, but after he left the team. While he was with the Rangers, I don’t recall continual incidences of disrupting teammates in the dugout like Bonds had, especially with his assistants.
by Mark from OC on Jun 21, 2009 12:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Bradley
tried to beat up the Royals announcer. not that Lefebrve isn’t a gloriously inept asshole, but dude, he tried to go after an announcer
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
And that is a bad thing how?
Did the Rangers lose the next day because of that? I bet they were laughing (not publicly) that he did that. I bet that his teammates were not upset in any way.
And it was the only memorable incident all year. One.
by Mark from OC on Jun 21, 2009 12:57 AM CDT up reply actions
I think
the Rangers just dealt with him better than most. There was all those times that he took up a roster space without a DH trip. And those times that he did random things like break bats over his repeatedly injured legs.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Bad things, yes, but for himself more than his teammates
I don’t think Bradley was bad for the team causing clubhouse disturbances like Bonds has. There is more than the steroid reasons that no one signed Bonds even though he wanted to play.
by Mark from OC on Jun 21, 2009 1:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Kent was just as big an ass.
I don’t lay that incident solely on Barry.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
People who worry about disruption
from bad chemistry are just stupid, stupid people. I heard that same idiotic shit with Bradley and others, and it never pans out.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Fuck no...
I hope the organization is better than to invite that dirty pos cheating sack of shit onto this team
Fuck barry bonds
dirty POS cheating sack of shit
remind me which ranger player your 100% sure is clean?
because i quite honestly cant name one that i know, 100% without a doubt, has never tried or done steroids, or had access to them
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions
fuck that
if he comes in and helps the team make the plsyoffs, i dont really care right now
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 3:24 PM CDT up reply actions
We Need Bonds
Do it Hicks/JD/Ryan. I don’t give a fuck what Selig, the media, the haters, current roster thinks. SOB could roll outta bed and OPS .900 minimum.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
6th in OPS
but that is not indicative of what’s been happening for the past month
by texasraider on Jun 20, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Middle of the pack for the season.
We scored a ton of runs early on, if you remember.
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
I was talking about runs scored, obviously.
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
7th in wOBA
But that’s largely buoyed by our April performance.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Who are the Giants starting tomorrow against Millwood?
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
Barry Zito
You remember him. Lefty with good curvy stuff.
Which means he’s probably gonna shut us down.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
at least its not at TBIA lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 20, 2009 11:55 PM CDT up reply actions
I remember him owning us several times with Mulder and Hudson.
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
Not really
Wandy got knocked around, and Wandy’s better than Zito.
Preferably
if they add a bat, it’ll be one that’s either in his last years of team control or one that has very little service time. I don’t think this team needs mid-arb guys yet. Hopefully, whoever they find, it’ll also include an arm.
Good god, this offense has gone into the tank.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Indeed
if there’s a deal available for something like Hanrahan + Johnson, that’d be a deal that helps us quite a bit.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I'd be in for Beimel too from the Nats
If they went for LaRoche they could go after Grabow or Snell too
I used to shoot baskets
Well
I’m really thinking more about undervalued guys.
Hanrahan has an ugly ERA, but dude Ks guys, doesn’t walk all that many, and plays in front of an awful OF. That’s the type of guys you target so you don’t have to give up a core guy. Pittsburgh apparently has an elevated sense of their own player values, especially for a guy like Snell. I’d think that Neal Huntington would be pressed to make a good deal too, given the McLouth trade and the Tony Sanchez pick.
What would be the asking price for Johnson+ Hanrahan
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I'm inclined to think they wait as long as they can on Johnson
and see if they can’t get multiple teams after him. Of course now that I say that he will probably be dealt tomorrow.
Would Kiker/Poveda, Moreland/Smith, Arias/Vallejo, Max get it done?
I used to shoot baskets
How about Kiker, Moreland, Vallejo, Pina?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 12:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Pupu platers
are rarely used for Midseason acquisitions.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Yeah it started to seem like a real grab bag after I posted it
but I wouldn’t throw too much for half season of Gimpy and that reliever. Kiker and Moreland are legitimate prospects at this point.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions
Moreland
is a favorite prospect of mine. High avg, low K rate, decent BB rate.
He reminds me of Frankie Cat with power.
In fact, I shall refer to him as Fat Cat from now on.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Fairly often they are, actually.
Assuming the acquisition isn’t big.
That return is better than the Harden return, imo, and prolly better than the Blanton return, though I must admit I don’t remember exactly what they got in return for Blanton other than that I thought it sucked.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 1:03 AM CDT up reply actions
The problem with that
is, of course, that there’s many similar guys available – Giambi, LaRoche, Ka’aihue et al are offensive players who’ll probably be available at the deadline, and the teams looking for offense (Boston, New York, Texas) might very well have internal options ready by 7/31. So it’s a bad chance to take.
Really, how would ppl react to Johnson + Hanrahan for Salty right now?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
No....
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 12:20 AM CDT up reply actions
Meh
if whoever you trade for has a chance of recouping draft picks, it’s worth some consideration, imho.
I’m not sure where Johnson stands in the Elias rankings.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Clue me in
How does adding one high OBP or good power guy help? One won’t do it. OBP doesn’t help in nobody hits with RISP. Power doesn’t help if no one else is on base.
Patience while the pandemic slump dies out.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 21, 2009 12:25 AM CDT up reply actions
One is better than none
Which is what we have now.
I think the real value in adding such a player is to protect Hamilton when he comes off the DL. He just doesn’t seem like the same player without somebody akin to MB hitting behind him.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
It's not even about protection
it’s about the increase opportunities to score by increasing the number of base runners. RISP numbers should balance out during the course of a season, but low OBP numbers will not unless you expect exceptional improvement in plate discipline across the board.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Yeah, true.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Yea well when he comes back
he will have Cruz behind him instead of Blalock or Jones. That should help some. You get a decent bat 5th (Johnson, LaRoche) and then you may get this thing rolling again
I used to shoot baskets
Except
there is a cost associated with that
wed all love to improve the lineup, but some of us dont think it is worth throwing away a player who could be a middle of the rotation starter along with other solid players
1/2 season rentals is just pissing the future away that we have been desperately trying to build
If you replace a very bad OBP guy
with a very good OBP guy, it stands to make a significant difference in this lineup.
Given where the organization stands, though, I’d hope the Rangers only pull the trigger on a deal that simply blows them away.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Agree with being blown away or hang up
And we can’t count on a ’good OBP guy" to mad that significant difference in this lineup. Citation: Brad Wilkerson.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 21, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
The problem
with that is that Wilky wasn’t a good OBP guy. He couldn’t catchup to fastballs anymore because of the shoulder injury.
That’s like saying – “Well, adding a LH AS pitcher won’t help” Citation: Justin Thompson!
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Yes I recall and realize that
And I also clearly recall he was hyped as a high OBP guy. I guess my primary point is not to give up high prospects for a questionable, partial solution for right now.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 21, 2009 12:33 AM CDT up reply actions
WRONG
http://www.baseball-almanac.com/players/player.php?p=wilkebr01
he only played one game in center each year, and played LF mainly
he played 92 games in CF
the year before he became a ranger
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
That's a real roundabout way of making a point
If you remember, Wilky had the shoulder injury before the season. What we’re talking about now is guys who are performing in season. It’s still a bad citation.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
He might've been hyped that way,
but the fact of the matter is he had all of a .351 OBP in 661 PA with the Nationals the year before the Rangers acquired him, and in his best year, he had a .380 OBP.
Johnson’s lifetime OBP is .399. The big question there is if he can stay healthy. And that’s a huge question.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
The point is
that for a lot of teams, midseason additions are how they address weaknesses.
What is this team missing right now? I count – a consistent on base threat who can create opportunities for guys like Cruz and, eventually, Hamilton and another power threat beyond Nelson Cruz. If you add a player who addresses both those weaknesses you get better. I don’t think that’s a flawed conclusion.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Brad Wilkerson never had a good OBP here in Texas.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Wilkerson with the Rangers?
You should go back and check his stats, Ed.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
No!
Pre-Ranger stats. And bill of goods that as an incoming player he’d be a high OBP type.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 21, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions
See above!
Wilkerson’s pre-Rangers OBP was simply not that impressive. I know how he was billed, but that doesn’t change the reality of the situation.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
For thought game's sake
let’s replace someone who’s a borderline Elias ranking FA with someone like Brad Hawpe.
What would you be willing to surrender for Hawpe + Street?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Coors hitters are scary
But so are Hawpe’s numbers. Not sure a corner outfielder is where you wanna blow your wad if you’re the Rangers either.
I used to shoot baskets
Brad Hawpe
is comically inept defensively. He is a DH.
The thing is, Hawpe will probably be a Type A guy. And Street should at least be a Type B.
That’s a lot of recouped picks.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
If Hawpe is available,
I think he’ll end up being too costly. He’s really raking. If we were legitimately one bat away I’d go for it, cause I think prospects can be greatly overrated. But we ain’t one bat away.
I guess it depends on how much, because as you mentioned, the ensuing comps. Just think it will probably be too high.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Just throwing names out there at this point
it’s 2 PM here, so I got nothing to do.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
2 PM? Where the F are you?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
China
waiting for my 4 Pm train
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Wow. Cool.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
What the fuck?
Color me green with envy.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
I'll post some pics
on facebook when I get back. Maybe we can start using the LSB group again!
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
There's an LSB facebook group?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
x
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=33345329288&ref=ts
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Hmn, thx.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Cool. I'd like to see them.
Just signed onto that Facebook page recently myself.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Is Ka'aihue good?
I always though he was a Botts type.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
Commands the strike zone real
well. His K rate doesn’t stand out as amazingly awful. Pretty good swing, especially compared with a guy like Botts. You never know with guys like this, but right now, the only conclusion I can make is that he knows how to get on base.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I'm shocked there are 4 teams with more K's than the Rangers
of course three of them don’t have a DH
Rangers haven't scored more than 6 runs in any game in June.
Shocking.
"The very existence of flame-throwers proves that some time, somewhere, someone said to themselves, You know, I want to set those people over there on fire, but I'm just not close enough to get the job done." ~ George Carlin
you know
as nice as dealing for a bat sounds, we could get albert pujols in this thing and still be terrible. Seriously, our offense is awful right now top to bottom. I have been on the “lets be patient with Davis” bandwangon to this point. However, enough is enough. He must be sent down to regain his swing. I’m not too enthused about seeing blalock at first base on a day to day basis, but I really think this is the best thing for the club AND for Davis right now. Furthermore, i don’t really know there is much we can do to right this ship except hope that the players get out of this collective funk. JD is a badass GM, but you can’t go out and deal for two thirds of a new lineup. I’d just assume ride this out, maybe make a minor move to acquire a bat. If not, just see what happens w/ Blalock at first and Jones at DH most nights, with Boggs starting against lefties for Murphy and in place of Byrd much more often.
Not necessarily true about one or two guys turning a line up around
Milt and Josh in the middle of the lineup last year made everyone else better. The guys around them see better pitches, and the pitchers tend to labor trying to make perfect pitches when you have two guys back to back in a lineup that are what those two were last year
I used to shoot baskets
I think if you
eliminated some of the major suck, like Chris Davis, and add a real bat, like Nick Johnson, there would be a big impact.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
I agree with that
You replace a .250ish OBP with a .400+ OBP and the entire lineup is going to benefit. Plus, there may be something to other guys seeing an intelligent approach like Johnson’s or Milt’s from last year and a light going off….some stark realization that working counts and getting into team’s bullpens makes things a lot easier
I used to shoot baskets
By July 1st?
How the eff much longer do you think he needs? He’s had around 200 AB’s and two and a half months to figure it out. Enough is enough man!
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by utlonghorn24 on Jun 21, 2009 1:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Agreed
Davis should be on the farm by June 21.
by Mark from OC on Jun 21, 2009 1:13 AM CDT up reply actions
so where are you
suggesting we get two bats such as Hamilton and Bradley of last year? Thats my point, it is unrealistic and not going to happen
Well I would suggest we will get a guy similar to Hamilton
when Josh Hamilton himself comes off the DL. Then, if you did manage to add Nick Johnson, you would be getting a guy similar to Milt last year…with a little less power.
Those two things would change the top 5 in the lineup from:
Kinsler, Murphy/Andrus. Young, Cruz, Byrd/Jones
to a top 5 in the lineup of:
Kinsler, Young, Hamilton, Cruz, Johnson
I would say that would have a pretty drastic effect on this offense
I used to shoot baskets
two points
1) Its a large assumption to think that Hamilton will come back from injury and hit like he did last year.
2) If we continue to be this poor offensively, it won’t matter when Hamilton comes back because we will be out of the race by then
My point is less about where the Rangers finish this year
and more about the fact that one or two guys in the middle of a lineup can completely alter the fortunes of an offense. Hamilton has been playing hurt, so I don’t think it’s out of the question for him to come back after so much rest and have a hot streak or two in him. Even if he isn’t producing at a first half of 2008 clip, his presence alone makes a difference.
Ryan Ludwick has had a renaissance over the past few years…but if he isn’t behind Pujols in that lineup…the odds of that happening would be significantly less. Big time hitters in your lineup means everyone else gets better pitches and better situations to hit in.
I used to shoot baskets
i'm not disputing
that one guy can make a difference. What i’m saying is our offense hasn’t been too great w/ hamilton in the lineup. Obviously, having him in the lineup does help things. However, his presence alone won’t make the difference needed with how poorly performance is right now
Also
Hamilton has yet to show he can produce at the level he showed last year hitting in front of Bradley. No question he saw a lot more pitches to hit with Bradley at cleanup. This is why I’m not so sure he will perform like last year
Hamilton
Even with his slow start…
In 35 games Hamilton played: 5.8 runs per game
In 32 games Hamilton hasn’t played: 3.94 runs per game
There is something to be said for a guy’s presence in the lineup. And if you can replace Davis’ .678 OPS with an .800+ OPS on top of getting Hamilton back…you are giving the offense a much better chance of having a 2008 look to it.
I used to shoot baskets
okay
i haven’t disputed that his presence doesn’t make a difference. I do think you’re giving him too much credit for it though. This is more a byproduct of our offense simply not being very good than Hamilton being out IMO.
I guess my question boils down to this
This lineup/offense sucks:
Kinsler
Murphy/Boggs
Young
Cruz
Blalock/Jones
Byrd
Salty/Tea
Davis
Andrus/Omar
Does this one?
Kinsler
Young
Hamilton
Cruz
Johnson
Jones/Blalock
Byrd/Murphy
Salty/Tea
Andrus/Omar
Maybe I do put too much stock into it…but I see that second lineup and envision everyone from top to bottom getting better pitches to hit. Not only that, but I see a top 5 in the order that is going to be penciled there everyday rather than a mix and mash grab bag. To me, two guys, in the right circumstance can completely change the complexion of a lineup. And Hamilton and Johnson (or to a lesser extent LaRoche) could be those guys.
I used to shoot baskets
Also, most of Hamilton's ABs this year have come with
Blalock or Jones behind him…now that Cruz has taken hold of the #4 spot, that gives Hamilton the protection he needs to see more fastballs. Other teams respect Nellie a lot more than Andruw or Hank
I used to shoot baskets
Sorry about that loss...
I feel for you guys…. now you guys know what it’s like being a Giants fan. Our offense is this bad EVERYNIGHT.
care to trade firstbasemen?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
...and third basemen
sandoval looks like a legit hitter
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
we will be lucky to get a 2-4 roadtrip
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
This is a boom or bust offense
for all we know, they might go insane the next 4 games. Or I might light the team hotel on fire. Both are possibilities at this point.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Not this team
a bad lefty can shut them down.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
We got shutout by Dontrelle Willis
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
And dominated by Brian Tallet.
Brian. Fucking. Tallet.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Should've kept reading.
Good call, SaltyDawg.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Gratuitous fucking F-bombs are my speciality.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Please
you’re like #5 on the list of gratuitous F bomb droppers.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
You're right.
But I don’t care enough to try any harder.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
I think I've gotta be like #3 or 4.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I think we all drop alot of "faaaacks"
when watching the Rangers lately.
Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.
-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 21, 2009 7:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I wonder if other teams are still afraid to face our mighty offense?
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
Andruw Jones at First?
Until Smoak is ready.
Davis to the minors. Boggs to Left. Who’s hitting at AAA? Anyone?
I would prefer this to a trade. Unless the deal was a slam dunk.
Jones has sucked for a month and a half now
And he also can’t play first base. So no.
Blalock will have to take over at first if we send Davis down. But that needs to happen, so… at this point we don’t have much choice but to suck it.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Justin Smoak
will be activated next week, but will not play in the AA ASG.
I’m probably reading too much into that.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
This may have been discussed in gameday
But I got out of my recliner and made coffee and updated a couple of data bases when I realized the game was over. Giving up an out to move Kinsler, by having Murphy bunt him over. We were not behind by a run, we were tied with no one out. Even if Murph GIDP’s the result is the same on the scoreboard. I would have watched the rest of the game had Murph got a hit, especially if it moved Kinsler to 3rd with nobody out. That would produce a run (I think MY went deep enough to RF).
Both Cain and Holland pitched will.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 21, 2009 12:22 AM CDT reply actions
i thought
the bunt was pretty stupid too, hell kinsler probably couldve stolen 2nd on his own w/o pissing away an out
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by studcrackers on Jun 21, 2009 2:09 AM CDT up reply actions
i did not agree with it either
ERT says it’s a bad idea too but that assumes that you have a normal top of the order coming up and not people who are all horribly slumping.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I agree
I hated the bunt move (although i understand it)
that pitcher had also thrown 5 straight balls at that point as well, and then we subsequently give him an out…baaaadddd
also, Kins is on base, steal, hit and run, what the fuck ever…just dont take the bat away from our one decent June hitter…
Considering trades
From everything we’ve been told the Rangers can’t take on any more salary, and it’s doubtful that any but the richest teams will eat salary for more/better prospects in return.
Just conjecture, but I imagine we’ll see Hamilton DHing alot when he comes back. So trading for a 1B/DH type doesn’t seem likely.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Jun 21, 2009 12:28 AM CDT reply actions
I imagine
we’ll see Josh in LF
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
I would bet
that he’ll DH and play COF
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Jun 21, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions
if thats the case
id like to see a september callup for borbon and put him in CF everyday to get his feet wet. If we are out of the race that is.
I'd like
Borbon to play in front of Marlon Byrd right now, since he’ll not hit above the 8 spot and he does not suck at playing defense
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Hmm i think
he needs a bit more time to become more patient at the plate. Not that he’s ever going to be a top of the order high OBP guy, but I’d hate to rush him right now.
I don't think
there’s much of a difference between getting his OB chops in AAA and in the MLB.
The main advantage offered by Borbon is that Wash, hopefully, won’t hit him near the top or middle of the lineup like he does with Byrd.
Having the Outmachine hitting 6 fucks this offense up big time.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Jesus
Some of you act like Byrd is the worst player in the world b/c he doesnt take walks…
I hate his OBP too but his near 300 avg is still very solid…didnt he come up with a big time clutch hit yesterday?
Isn't it weird
That you have the wrong opinion about everything?
by brettgardner on Jun 21, 2009 8:39 AM CDT up reply actions
heh
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions
Oh yeah jackass
CF’s in the AL are averaging a 728 OPS and Marlon has a 750 OPS on the year…
Clearly, he has been one of the worst players in the league….or youre wrong for being overly critical
I wouldn't mind calling up Borbon now
until Hamilton returns
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaacccccccccccccckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk!!!!!!
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
Jaramillo
How on earth is he getting a free pass from fans and media right now? Can you imagine the uproar if the pitching was as dramatically underperforming? Actually, yes – I seem to remember constant calls for people’s heads the past 10 years.
suck
3 hits in 11?
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
So AJM
If we lose first place tomorrow, are you gonna have to change the blog tagline?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I was having such a good night before that wild pitch.
And now my night just sucks.
Eff this team.
I really hope they all die.
Truly.
Somebody burn down their hotel.
Choking pussies.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
Hopefully they live forever just like the humor of your emotastic profile pic.
Was that thing taken before or after the poetry slam?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 21, 2009 7:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
You Guys
…are pretty funny.
I just got done watching the game on the ol’ DVR. No team in baseball was going to do anything against Cain tonight, and actually I thought I saw some halfway decent AB’s mixed in there, all things considered.
The way it ended kind of sucked, yeah. It was a good enough pitch to swing at, oddly enough, but it just hit the dirt in the worst way possible. The pen did pretty well.
You guys should look at the positives from this thing. Frank Frank’s back and apparently hasn’t lost a step. Holland looked pretty good. HIs curve looked really good tonight. And if the offense were as bad tonight as you guys are suggesting Cain would have had a CG. They put up a little bit of a fight tonight for a change.
We haven't scored more than 6 runs since may 30th.
Our offense sucks right now. It doesn’t matter how good or bad the pitcher is. We’re not a good offense right now.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
even if we couldnt' score off cain
we should have scored off the bullpen. if we are now a mediocre offensive club that can’t even get hits against the middle guys of an above average but not badass bullpen, we are screwed
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
They're not mediocre.
They’re worse than that, but I believe the Giants brought out there closer after Cain who was throwing some serious heat. The next guy (Romo?) had pretty good stuff. They worked him but just couldn’t get anything done.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with this
Yes, the offense is bad right now, but Cain was on.
The team is in a terrible slump. Trading for a bat is going to cost, several other contenders would also like to add a bat and there aren’t that many available. Patience is probably the best course of action unless Daniels manages to get very creative.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
Everybody seems to be "on"
against the Rangers.
Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.
-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.
by SarasotaRanger on Jun 21, 2009 7:02 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep,
the same way Dontrelle Willis was on against Texas.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Can I haz DFA Chris Davis?
He’s going to start a tornado in RBiA with those wind tunnels he keeps whiffing up.
I saw last night that he has K’d 99 times in 218 PAs. That is an epic number of missed scoring opportunities and wasted outs. Does his defense make up for that? Methinks not.
Way to not lurk and instead shit all over yourself during your first fanshot.
-FirebatM3 to Ryan2907. 6/3/09.
Actually, he hit the big 100 last night
100 K’s in 219 PA’s. Somehow that only grades out to a 45.7 K/9, but it’s still mindblowing.
He’s plus 2.2 runs at first base right now, but he’s minus 9.8 at the dish. That’s “only” a half win below replacement overall (seems like it should be more), but I’m at the point where can’t rationally defend his presence in the lineup anymore. With the team in this squad-wide slump, it seems like step #1 to getting this offense back on track should be sending him back to OKC.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
DFA = dumb
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
You can't even spell your own name,
why should I listen to you?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
all i can say is wow...
you guys are the biggest group of knee-jerkers ever assembled in one place. amzing to watch the mood change so drastically in such a short period of time.
anyway…
milton bradley – people thought bradley was expendable b/c we could get a compensation pick, but unless tanner scheppers can swing the bat we need to accept that offensive loss and realize that not having bradley is a short term consequence of continuing to rebuild.
we weren’t intended to contend this year anyway. 2010, remember?
davis – sucks. JD knew (definitely should have known) that teixeira would never be a long term solution, so i am perplexed why there wasn’t a better transition plan involved for his departure. as others have noted over the last several days, you need a big stick at first to be competitive, and davis certainly isn’t that. i don’t care so much that he sucks because people don’t always reach their potential. i do care that this third baseman is our best option at first. how does that happen?
hamilton is hurt. hard to get too worked up about that. that’s been the one knock on him from day one – that the abuse his body sustained would preclude him from being a full season guy each year.
So wise.
I will be the first to ask permission to kneel at your altar.
by brettgardner on Jun 21, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
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