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by Adam J. Morris on Jun 21, 2009 5:33 PM CDT
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Boggs should've stayed missing
"You miss 100% of the shots you don't take"-Wayne Gretzky"-Michael Scott
by ReallyCreativeScreenName on Jun 21, 2009 5:34 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
this i agree with
is this a team of quitters? is it approach? is it lack of talent?
wtf?
again the rangers are making spare pitchers look great.
this sucks.
by sam in so cal on Jun 21, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
lack of talent
No one is scary on this team. There are a few good offensive players(Kinsler, Cruz, Young, Hamilton), a few average ones(Byrd, Murphy, AJones, Andrus), and some bad ones(Blalock, Davis, Salty, TT). The worst part is 2 of the bad ones are from positions that it very easy to get at least average offensive production from – 1B & DH.
Sooooo, fix it Nolan & JD.
I was a Ranger fan when being a Rangers fan wasn't cool.
Blalock is 4th among qualifying DHs in the AL in OPS...
He belongs squarely in the average grouping
and they can fix it easily…but the problem is the cost…
we bow to our Giants overlords
we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"
by eclou on Jun 21, 2009 5:35 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
you know
you had predicted 1-2 for the series and i really thought you’d be right. that is of course before i watched the first 4 innings
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
really?
i think the story of the game is not bringing in one crappy reliever for another. Please post a Missing: Grilli and his 1.9 WHIP article.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Dude...did he kill your dog or something?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
clearly that must be it
seems to me that when someone is clamoring so hard for a guy who sucks that much, the question is, is he your uncle or fuck buddy?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
No, he's not...
but you’re making it sound like the guy is throwing nothing but meat at the plate. I pointed out that he’s had 4 good outings out of 5, and before the first part of this year in Colorado, he’d been a pretty good reliever in Detroit.
I’ll agree, he was god awful in Colorado to start this year, but outside of those 19.1 innings, he’s been pretty decent in his career.
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
no
i didn’t say he’s like the absolute worst. I just said who the fuck cares if it is grilli or guardado.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Personally I'd take Grilli in the game before Guardado...
Guardado is pretty much washed up at this point.
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
if anything, it's a coin flip and a matter of preference
there’s no way one is just so much better than the other.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
We could compare fastball velocities.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
that's not everything
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
It's "a way"
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 5:51 PM CDT up reply actions
you got me
maybe weight is another
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Are we really debating this?
Dear lord you pick weird targets to defend.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions
i didn't think we were being serious after you said fastball velocity
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I was half-joking
but there is no debate with regards to their stuff, so ..
Definitely not a coin flip.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 6:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Grilli has a 4.25 FIP and a 9.62 K/9
There’s plenty of reason to think his .421 BABIP will come down, and along with it his .331 BAA. His only really worrisome trait is his 5.18 BB/9, but if his BAA comes down that can be managed, considering how many guys he K’s.
Eddie doesn’t strike anyone out, doesn’t miss bats (K/9 below 4), and has a 6.22 FIP and a tRA of 24. I don’t see how you can even compare him to Grilli.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
you are saying grilli should be better because his BABIP is so high?
did it ever occur to you that a guy who has shitty stuff might get clobbered on the regular?
he hasn’t even been good with the rangers. has had 2 out of 5 good innings, and the rest were just lucky or bad
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
But he doesn't have shitty stuff...
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
He has shitty stuff?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
Shitty stuff or no, a .421 BABIP is rediculously unlucky.
With as many bats as he misses, I think there’s plenty of reason to think he can be significantly better than this if the BABIP comes down, which it will.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Also
The fact that he misses that many bats tells me there’s no way his stuff is that shitty.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
go look at ZIPS (updated)
they have both of them sporting above 1.5ish WHIPS.
the answer isn’t one over the other. the answer is we just need someone better.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Grilli 6/17 vs Hou
1IP 2H 0ER 2K
good or bad outing?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
it wasn't bad but it doesn't instill me with confidence.
back to back hits followed by back to back strikeouts.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
back-to-back seeing eye GBs
that were just out of the reach of Kinsler. It is not like he gave up a LD single to LF followed by a double off the wall. Numbers don’t tell everything.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
his ld rate is pretty high
(there’s a number for that).and he got michaels and bourn to strike out. bourn was pretty good but michaels is a completely shitty #8 hitter in the NL
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Time to grill some pork chops
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
7 run.....15 hits
for the series!
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
I remember when that was a good night
Now it’s not even a good series.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Its not the offense Adam
We have just faced some great pitching the last month thats why we can only get 3 hits a game
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 21, 2009 5:38 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
nice dick face
i said i thought that might the case but this zito game would be telling.
it was telling. go stare at an ERT for 2 more hours and see if you’ve figured it out
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
heh
How bout you go look at the last months games and tell me our offense has just been unlucky to face Cy Young every night
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
they've pitched good pitching
we played the red sox and the yankees who have a lot of good pitching. sorry.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Ok, that accounts for 9 games...
how about the other 20 over the last month?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
we didn't play shitty for all those 20 games
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
How do you explain us going 4-5 against that group of pitchers from the Yanks and Sox...
where all 9 will be splitting the Cy Young award this year?
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
we have to beat on every pitcher that isn't a cy young winner?
we lost to burnett twice. we lost to lester. they pitched well. you don’t accept that?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
We are averaging 3.4 runs/game in June
We are near the bottom of almost every offensive category for the month. Its not the pitching we have faced. Its our guys playing like shit. Yes Burnett and Lester are good pitchers but they aren’t THAT good that we should suck as bad as we have against them.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I think ab has a point
We have faced some pretty good pitching this month. But still even in saying that our offense just sucks right now.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
That's it.
There have been a few games, like last night, in which no team was going to do much. But there have been many more games in which they’ve just sucked.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 5:57 PM CDT up reply actions
all i was really saying
except i don’t think it is many more. If you look a the game logs, it’s not as bad as you think. we’ve lost a lot of games but it wasn’t always the offense’s fault
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Not always.
Fuck the game logs. I watch the games. They look like shit.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions
i've watched every game too
those pitchers look pretty good.
here’s a great Rorschach test. How did Zito look today?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
He didn't look like he did several years ago.
He looked good but not that damn good. The Rangers made him look better than he was.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions
well at least you acknowledged that he looked good
i agree. good not great. i think a non slumping offense gets to him
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
A non slumping offense
might get to Burnett or Lester once.
To be fair.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions
not lester that night
and not burnett from what i can remember.
but yeah, I think that is fair. a non slumping above average offense should at least overperform a couple of times during the course of a month.
they haven’t overperformed at all it seems. maybe wandy, although i thought wandy was terrible.
so the punchline to all of this is that the rangers aren’t really slumping – they’re just not that good to begin with. given that, i think this month is only going slightly worse than what should have happened.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I agree
I think it’s a dose of both. I’m glad we are now exposed so that we know how to improve.
I also think we’re due for regression and gross overperformance in the next month.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Regression theory.
As I posted this morning, I don’t think this is a team that will regularly be last in RS in the Al in any given month.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
no
i’m just saying we should expect some regression but we should also be cognizant of who we’re playing
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
geez
did you watch the games? They really were that good. Cain really was that good.
I know its easy to think that if we played a bunch of bad games in a row, it’s not them, it’s us. but we also just played a bunch of really good pitchers in a row. and when we weren’t facing good pitchers, we weren’t terrible.
and you’re just being a jackass. i said i wanted to see the zito game to make a determination. i think it was perfectly reasonably to be open to the possibility that we were only underpeforming against god pitchers and not in this tail spin systemic slump
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
If you needed the Zito game to make your determination then you haven't been watching the games
Our offense has been awful of late. Good pitching, bad pitching, it doesn’t matter. We have hit guys like Pettite and Wandy Rodriguez and then let guys like Tallet and Janssen make us look like an A ball team. We can’t manufacture runs to save our lives. We have two hitters at the bottom of the lineup that are almost automatic outs. Our leadoff man hits popups like Willie Mays Hayes in Major League.
Theres a reason those pitchers have looked “pretty good” and its because we make them look like that
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
wandy was awful. pettite was awful
the blue jay series is really the only time i thought the rangers were looking bad, though tallet looked great
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Barry Zito is great pitching?
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
sarcasm
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Oh
Gotcha.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Yeah
ab tried to say at the start of GDT #1 that our offense hasn’t been slumping we have just been facing really good pitching every game
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I dunno who kidnapped the real ab03, but we need him returned, ASAP.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
go to college
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 21, 2009 5:54 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
no, no.
You have to listen to a man who has a suit like that on.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
clearly
he saw what Renner was wearing and wanted to wear the exact opposite. Can you blame him?
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions
you make a strong point
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 21, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions
well it's working
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 21, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions
the angels are clearly better than us right now
that much is obvious
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
why not?
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 21, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions
At this point
we have to consider it a possibility.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 21, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well he needs to start acting
like the best damn hitting coach in baseball then.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
me either
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 21, 2009 5:45 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Confidence, son
It’s all about confidence.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 5:46 PM CDT up reply actions
Yeah, she's a bitch.
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
That's my daughter you're talking about.
by Black Francis on Jun 21, 2009 5:50 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell her
she’s a dumb cunt.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 21, 2009 5:58 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
funnier
than The Hangover – all the laughs condensed into six words
by sam in so cal on Jun 21, 2009 6:32 PM CDT up reply actions
OT- Anyone know of a good traffic ticket lawyer in Arlington
Got a speeding ticket yesterday and need to get it taken care of
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I have used James something or other,
office is just off I-35 on the north edge of downtown Ft Worth…can’t think of the viaduct name now, it runs east-west by the courthouse.
I guess that didn’t help much, huh?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
it's called pay it
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Id rather pay $75 dollars than whatever the fine will be
If it wasn’t a stupid speed trap/money grab then I would pay it like I have all my other ones. But this one pissed me off. I’ll give my money to someone else rather than the stupid city
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Damn right.
No-brainer.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions
You know last time I went through an attorney, I ended up still owing some to the court
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 21, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions
yeah
i think with a speeding ticket, there’s a very good chance that you will end up paying more with attorney fees and court fees
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
even if it is more money?
maybe other people have more success but I’ve never heard of people winning on speeding tickets in arlington.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Im not trying to win necessarily
Just get one of those guys that keeps delaying it and delaying it and it eventually get dropped or whatever.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
i have no experience with that
but it sounds like others do. good luck to you.
i got a speeding ticket in arlington once where i was staring at the speedometer as i passed the cop and saw that it said 34 and he wrote me up for 44. Didn’t really think there was much i could do.
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
I have also had success that way, but this was in Dallas.
Eventually, the cop won’t show up or whatever.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
"Anyone who hangs themself during autoerotic asphyxiation is free game." - Curmudgeon
Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 6:25 PM CDT up reply actions
better call saul!
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by studcrackers on Jun 21, 2009 7:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Jim Lollar at Inwood and Cooper
Been to him a couple of times. If you don’t qualify for deferred adjudication or defensive driving, I would suggest him.
I think you pay like $40 up front… he goes to court, month goes by, get a letter in the mail… you’re fee will probably be about the price of the ticket (and then ~$20-$30 extra, for court fees and other BS I’m sure)
So if you got a ticket where you were ~10 mph over, you can expect to pay about $180-$190
I know it sucks, but it keeps it off your record. :)
by oc on Jun 21, 2009 9:26 PM CDT up reply actions
Some good news/bad news on Neftali
Good News: 7 H, 1 R, 1 ER, 1 BB, 7K
Bad News: Needed 85 pitches to get through 5 Innings before Pirate replaced him
Still; 7 K, 5 GO, and only 2 flyball outs in 5 IP. Of the 7 hits, 4 singles and 3 doubles. Kevin Richardson helped him out by throwing out a runner at 3rd to help keep the game 1-1 and get Neftali through 5
I used to shoot baskets
Man, I tried two diff ways and couldn't get the audio either...suck.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Yea after I saw the line for his first 3 innings
I wanted to hear what he was working with today. No luck with either broadcast though.
I used to shoot baskets
It sounds like Happy Happy still needs a swing-and-miss offspeed pitch to mix up with his fastball
Once he develops it though, he’s gonna be wicked.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Like I said lets wait for him to string together a few good ones in a row before we say hes figuring things out
Today was the first time in the last 5 games hes fanned more than 3 guys. The pitches per inning is worrisome right now. 1 run allowed is nice and a far departure from his most recent starts.
My hope is they keep him down for another 6 weeks or so before even thinking about bringing him up. He needs to work on alot of stuff it sounds like. another 10 starts or so should allow him to do so. Then re-evaluate and decide if you want to bring him up to fortify the pen or keep him down and continue being a starter.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Yep
right now he would only be a bullpen guy at the ML level. So if you want him to get his innings, learn to battle, develop his offspeed stuff…then he has to stay down until late in the season. If you want to see if he can help your pen and maybe hurt his secondary stuff in the short term…then he could be up earlier.
I used to shoot baskets
bullpen guy
wouldn’t mind that at all
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Me either
But not until August at the earliest
Right now the positives he could bring do not outweigh the negatives of neglecting his offspeed stuff and the development he could get in the minors.
Now if we are still in a tight race in August and a late inning shut down reliever can really make a difference then yes bring him up and hopefully the couple months in the majors won’t stunt his growth.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Until he can average more than 4.2 IP per start
He won’t make himself anything but a bullpen option. That’s why I agree with what you’re saying that they should wait as long as they can on him to give him every opportunity to develop his control and offspeed pitches.
Just look at how Holland has looked as he struggles with his offspeed stuff and hitters sit on his fastball or yak a hanger. And Holland is ahead of Neftali in terms of control and secondary stuff. When he starts ripping off 6, 7, and 8 inning outings with this type of K/BB and a more efficient use of pitches, then you are looking at an ace prospect.
I used to shoot baskets
Yep...
Unless Lackey sucks it up tonight, it’s gonna be time to change the blog tagline.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
How is Borbon looking?
I see his AVG is around .300.
good enough to give him
a 2-3 week audition until Hamilton returns. IMHO
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Anthing to keep Byrd out of the middle of the lineup.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Yep
Although if they aren’t gonna play Boggs I don’t know if they would play Borbon. And Borbon has the greater chance to help this club on an everyday basis going forward so Id rather have him play everyday than Boggs if it came down to it.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
If JD calls up Borbon
then Wash has better be onboard with it and play he virtually everyday.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Is Borbon really going to help the offense?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 21, 2009 6:37 PM CDT up reply actions
He doesn't strike out much
and plays a mean centerfield. That’s an upgrade
That's why they call them business sox
could he hurt it?
i am ready for a shakeup. at least we can watch new faces fail.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
Adam
you sure do like to poo poo anyone’s ideas on how to get the offense going. But I don’t recall you giving any ideas on what to do.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
His idea
was to keep Davis up and let him break the strikeout record by a mile
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
He's not really going to break it by a mile...
he’s got Mark Reynolds right on his heals who set the current record last year.
Ron Washington...giving hope everywhere to the kids who eat lead paint chips of being a big league manager when they grow up since 2007.
I don't really have one
Because I don’t think there is a viable easy solution out there.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 21, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
If there were JD probably would have already done it.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
The bad thing is, it's too early.
More teams think they are in it, and the teams that will trade are gonna hold the Rangers up for a kings ransom. Tough spot to be in for a G.M.
As much as some are loathe to hear this, it may be best to stand pat for now, let the races further develop/shake out the losers, and wait for Smoak to get healthy, while determining if he is a viable option as a reinforcement.
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Yep
My guess is that, with Hamilton expected back in about 3 weeks, the team will ride it out until then.
If Davis is still struggling, he gets sent down when Hamilton returns, Blalock plays 1B every day, and the OF/DH slots are allocating among Hamilton, Jones, Murphy, Byrd, and Cruz.
And at that point, they’ll look at whether they need to bring in someone else to man 1B, or if they’ll just ride it out with Blalock.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 21, 2009 7:02 PM CDT up reply actions
This seems likely
and probably for the best, all things considered. Trading for someone would make fans feel better momentarily, but it probably wouldn’t fix anything or really improve their chances of winning. Then later we’d all be bitching about what they had to give up to get that bat.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
WTF
So you think we should just let Davis look like a fuckin retarded monkey swinging a bat up there for 3 more weeks?
fuck that…send his ass down
If a retarded monkey...
could play baseball (even poorly) is he really retarded?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
I was referring to
internal options.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Probably can't be much worse than Byrd's 576 OPS in June
And he should play better defense than the -8.2 UZR/150 Byrd is putting up.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I'm sure we've all seen this, but...
Per Newberg:
A .355/.403/.403 June has lifted Borbon’s season slash line to .302/.358/.370, but maybe most impressive has been the center fielder’s refusal to go down on strikes. He may not walk enough for a prototype leadoff hitter (18 times unintentionally in 265 at-bats), but he’s only fanned 26 times. A 13-game stretch in May without striking out has been followed by a seven-game run in June. A strong candidate to be the Rangers’ center fielder in 2010, Borbon has succeeded in 18 of 22 stolen base attempts.
That's why they call them business sox
Well
Byrd isn’t likely to be much worse than what Byrd has done in June, either.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 21, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
In fact
Looking at the Fangraphs leaderboards, the only AL CFers who have been worse than Byrd in UZR/150 this year are Adam Jones and Vernon Wells.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Byrd doesn't have much time in CF
That being said, Borbon would be a defensive upgrade.
However, he isn’t likely to hit better than Byrd going forward, so bringing him up doesn’t do much to fix the offense.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 21, 2009 6:47 PM CDT up reply actions
No, it admittedly doesn't
That said, Byrd has sucked ass at getting on base this year and at my last tally was seeing the fourth fewest pitches in the entire AL.
So I don’t really think the offense matters much where Byrd vs. Borbon is concerned, myself. CF is about the only other position than SS where I value defense over offense, so if Borbon can play plussy defense in CF while hitting at about the same/a little worse than Byrd is, I’d be willing to take it.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
unless Borbon shows he can handle ML pitching well enough to
let Hamilton DH when he comes back. I the meantime, Murphy an Byrd share LF which suits them best. I also think CD needs to be sent down and Blalock can play 1B fulltime. Lets get on with CD’s “rehab” so he can contribute later while it still matters.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
and that said
adam jones defense last year was VERY impressive
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions
He's traded defense for offense this year
-14.5 UZR/150
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
he will get better
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 8:22 PM CDT up reply actions
I was out most of the game
On the radio towards the end I heard mention of a bad play that cost them the 3rd run.
What happened?
the preceding post was a great success.
Cruz misplayed a ball.
He’s bothered by the sun in day games it’s pretty obvious. I would DH him in all day games.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
good news
Arizona is 12th in the NL in R/G. SF is second.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
SF is second to last in R/G.
Arizona is just shy of the NL average.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Texas Rangers Baseball:
We’re a hell of a team in May.
What is this, Horseville? Because I'm surrounded by naysayers.
On a positive note
adblocker plus kicks ass. Just downloaded it.
That's why they call them business sox
Firefox 3 pwns.
Unless you’re trying to run a GDT and the MLB.com media player at the same time, that is.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
run mlb.com media stuff
audio or mlb.tv in IE and everything else in your browser of choice
much better imho
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 21, 2009 7:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Run mlb.com media stuff in Chrome.
That’s what I do… Chrome and Flash seem to work really well together so I run mlb.tv in that and the GDT in Firefox.
interesting
no chance that kills the nextdef lag, is there?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 22, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions
For chrome users, ...
http://lifehacker.com/5046529/how-to-block-ads-in-google-chrome
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Colloquially, a person engaging in the activity is sometimes called a gasper.
by inactive lsb user on Jun 21, 2009 6:45 PM CDT up reply actions
Cool.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
Anyone know how to block ads in opera?
I know Rodney uses his hosts file, but that’s a bit over my head.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
And I know you can block content on individual pages in opera
But it doesn’t always work when you refresh the page or move to a different one.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
I only gave step-by-step directions earlier-lol.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
There's also a placed to get a full content filter along with and element filter for opera.
Here it is. The instructions are pretty plain on the site about how to put it into a Vista or XP computer.
Cool!
I’ll have to give that a try. Thanks.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
OT - for the simpsons fans here
I just found a stop-motion version of the Homer/peanut scene on youtube.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
greatness
one of my favorite scenes in the simpsons
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by studcrackers on Jun 21, 2009 8:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Tell me about it.
I was there Friday and today. Would have been there Saturday too if not for my cousin’s wedding.
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