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Here's today's pitching probs:

At 7 Kasey Kiker will take the ball for Frisco.

At 7 Tommy Hunter will get the start for OKC,

At 9 Trevor Hurley will make his first start for Spokane.

The AZL Rangers are off.

The Sally league ASG is today.

The Cal league ASG is today,

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Let the countdown begin..

by octoberty on Jun 23, 2009 6:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rec this

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 6:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

that Frisco lineup suddenly looks a whole lot better

if Tracy and Whittleman would actually be decent, they’d be a really good offense

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 23, 2009 6:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Whittleman..... decent...

in the same sentence?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 23, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Works for me.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 23, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

ok now that just pissed me off

how dare you disrepect Johnny Whittleman like that

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 23, 2009 11:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

ha

oh stop it

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 24, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

good

to see smoak back at frisco

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 23, 2009 8:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

2-3 so far tonight

nice

Gentry is just on fire…geez

"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan

by Dirk Diggler on Jun 23, 2009 9:33 PM CDT up reply actions  

JMJ just took David Price yard

God it was beautiful…. making me sicker by the day

by octoberty on Jun 23, 2009 6:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Why?

Do you seriously think he’d be playing for the Rangers? Boggs can’t get an at bat but suddenly JMJ would?

by Hull Fan on Jun 23, 2009 6:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah and like we really need

JMJ’s looooong swing.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 6:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

would another year at AAA build his value back up anymore?

I just dont see how we sold that low, I think we got what we could at the time and moved on hoping to build more value with Golson than what we had with JMJ

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 23, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Meh...

there was no selling high on JMJ.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 23, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yep

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 23, 2009 7:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

Price had NOTHING tonight

If people are going to slit their wrists every time JMJ does anything, I’d advise going down the river and not across the bridge.

by LiamP on Jun 23, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah, Price was horrible, my fantasy team will pay

I always liked JMJ more than most, for no good reason, just did.

by octoberty on Jun 23, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe he could have moved back to 1B?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 23, 2009 6:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

sadly, if he was here

i think we’d all be clamoring for him to do just that

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 23, 2009 7:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Damn

Donuts trading yet another star. Josey Donuts is going to be all over this. ha

by Michael Cave on Jun 23, 2009 7:03 PM CDT up reply actions  

He was an effing 1st rounder!?

Unforgivable.

-Angry fan of a First Place Team

by chrisR on Jun 23, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions  

Definitely

should be a lesson to anyone that is getting impatient with Holland. David Price was/is definitely a better rated prospect than Holland yet Price is quite inconsistent so far.

by Michael Cave on Jun 23, 2009 7:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

yep, it happens

and its gonna happen likely with all of our young pitchers as they come up… except for Martin Perez, of course.

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 23, 2009 7:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Word

How many consecutive Cy Youngs will Martin win at the start of his career? Five? Ten?

On another note, does young Martin have a nickname yet? There was a Mexican general in the Texas Revolution named Martin Perfecto de Cos. We could call him Martin Perfecto de Perez to honor his infallibility. On the other hand, Cos kind of sucked as a general, so maybe that’s not so good after all.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 23, 2009 7:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Venezuelan Lightning

i think i heard that his nickname around the club was that b/c he reminded a scout of the way ron guidry aka Louisiana Lightning pitched, and hence, was the Venezuelan Lightning

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 23, 2009 8:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

Little Johan

“Johancito”

-Angry fan of a First Place Team

by chrisR on Jun 23, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions  

Right.

Remember how much Scott Kazmir sucked throughout most of his first full season?

-Angry fan of a First Place Team

by chrisR on Jun 23, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

Now that I looked up the numbers

He was pretty terrible in his first season (only 33 IPs)
But was only kinda bad in the first half of 2005 (3-7 4.59 ERA)

-Angry fan of a First Place Team

by chrisR on Jun 23, 2009 11:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

yeah i saw the boxscore earlier

think his avg is at .318

was checking out Johnny Danks vs the Dodgers when i saw the Phillies boxscore too

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 23, 2009 8:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

Martin Perez

1IP 0H 2K 1GO

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 7:36 PM CDT reply actions  

Anyone think Perez gets the Feliz treatment to start next year

Skip High A all together and go straight to AA. If he continues to put up phenominal performances I think you have to consider it

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 23, 2009 8:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe

it might depend on if where stillin Bakersfield.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 8:04 PM CDT up reply actions  

He's just so young

They just need to move their High A club.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 23, 2009 9:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

How many does he need?

He got 60+ last year in Spokane. By comparison Feliz got approx. 70 combined over 2 years between rookie and short season ball. Feliz then pitched in 80+ innings in Clinton before making the jump. I expect Martin to get 90+ innings this year in Hickory which would put him right in line with what they did with Feliz. He has a better breaking ball than Neftali does from all accounts so why not?

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 23, 2009 9:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Julio doubles!

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 7:51 PM CDT reply actions  

What kind of 2B was it?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 23, 2009 7:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Gameday had it off the wall.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

OKC

No Max tonight. :(

Why has Huffman been DHing and Frostad at 1B?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 23, 2009 7:59 PM CDT reply actions  

Possible replacement for Davis?

Has Huffman been DFAd before? My thinking is if they are gonna send CD down and bring up someone from AAA who will need to be added to the 40 it would be best to bring up Frostad if Huffman has previously been DFAd. That way when you are ready to send Frostad back down you can simply DFA him and keep him in your organization rather than lose him like you would with Huffman (again this only applies if he has previously been DFAd)

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 23, 2009 8:02 PM CDT up reply actions  

I can't imagine...

…that Huffman is going to be in a big rush to exercise his right to elect for free agency were he added to the 40 man roster, then outrighted sometime later.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 23, 2009 8:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why take the chance though

Is Huffman that big an upgrade over Frostad in the amount of time they would get in the bigs? And Frostad isn’t a guy I would exactly worry about DFAing so it works

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 23, 2009 8:23 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why do you care about Huffman?

He’s like 32.

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 23, 2009 8:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

exactly

thank you very much

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 23, 2009 8:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why take the chance?

Because who cares?

What difference does it make if Huffman elects to become a free agent?

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 23, 2009 8:37 PM CDT up reply actions  

Probably none

Just something Id do I guess

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 23, 2009 9:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Jonny Donuts hadn't lost Joe Koshansky, we'd have him as an option! /Josey Donuts

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jun 23, 2009 9:18 PM CDT up reply actions  

The idea that huffman or thorman or frostad

will be called up to this team anytime _ever_makes zero sense. MaxRam would get the call or there would be a trade…

by Goyogringo on Jun 23, 2009 9:30 PM CDT up reply actions  

could be that

and maybe Frostad is simply a better 1B

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 23, 2009 8:07 PM CDT reply actions  

Miguel De Los Santos struck out the side in the ninth for the DSL Rangers

now has 33 K’s in 12.1 innings pitched….that’s just sick.

If you want some slack, bring your own rope.

by rangerfaninva on Jun 23, 2009 8:36 PM CDT reply actions  

I know its DSL but . . .

He leads the league in K’s and he’s their closer!

He doesn’t even have enough innings to qualify at ERA.

by Evil Monkey on Jun 23, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions  

Hold up

12.1 innings means 37 outs. You are telling me he has gotten 33 of those on strikeouts. Holy hell. I know some border patrol agents im sure we could smuggle him over somehow

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 23, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

never heard of anything like it

absurd

"That one is headed for the moon!" - All Star Derby

by m_nieft on Jun 23, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Strikeout rate =

70%.

"I will hit you, emo boy." -- my wife to a pedestrian, 8 May 2009

by Lucas on Jun 23, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's little league dominant.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 23, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

kiker: 7 IP 0 ER, only 1BB

some improvements there…. Good to see. Also, Smoak 2 for 3…. nice start

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 23, 2009 10:18 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm going to need

 a lot of good notes like this from the minors to help me recover from the awfulness that is the big league club

by rangerjake on Jun 23, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Yah, the 3 k's are a little sobering, but overall pretty encouraging.

Can’t wait to see him coming in out of the ’pen in Arlington in September.

He’s in line for a cup, right?

What’s his 40 status?

This winter or next for him being added?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 23, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

next

"I will hit you, emo boy." -- my wife to a pedestrian, 8 May 2009

by Lucas on Jun 23, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks, Luke. Okay, so maybe no cup this September.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 23, 2009 11:45 PM CDT up reply actions  

I am dying to ask the Rangers

why Gentry leads off every game and Lemon hits at the back of the lineup.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 23, 2009 11:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Ask, contributor.

Be like that tough reporter in the front row at the Oval Office pressers. Ask them if they’re pretending they started in the 3rd inning.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 23, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

z does have a point

marcus lemon why not mix it up and have him lead off?

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 23, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Helen Thomas?

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jun 23, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions  

Why shouldn't Gentry leadoff?

Close to a .360 OBP and 27 of 28 in steals so obviously he’s got some wheels.

Seems like a pretty good leadoff candidate to me.

I think Lemon’d look pretty good in the 2-hole myself, but do you really expect some lowly double-A manger to go against the wishes of the Newberg?

I’m guessing the man has a family to feed.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 23, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions  

Ok, when has Gentry

had an OBP of .360? His career mark is .338. He’s having a very nice hot streak, and I’m ok with him being there, I guess, but Lemon should be hitting 1st or 2nd.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 24, 2009 12:06 AM CDT up reply actions  

Barking up the wrong tree

dirkatron doesn’t think Lemon is a prospect.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 24, 2009 12:27 AM CDT up reply actions  

fringy at best

But they could leave Gentry in leadoff, hit Lemon #2 and move Moreland to 4th or 5th or something. Of course milb.com seems to be having problems right now when I want to check the order, but I think Moreland was hitting 2nd last night.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 24, 2009 8:09 AM CDT up reply actions  

Maybe because

he’s never put up a 700 OPS despite being old for every league? He is a good defender and doing fine for the first time offensively at 25 in the TL, but as t ball said, he’s fringy at best.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 24, 2009 8:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

You're preaching to the Lemon-flavored choir about Marcus.

I think he 100% needs to be hitting 1 or 2.

But I don’t see Gentry leading off as a problem. He’s 25 which obviously makes him the suck as a long term prospect, but he’s got plussy plus speed and apparently CF defense, so maybe they think he’s a 4th/5th OF prospect and want to give him as many AB’s as possible to try to prove that this year.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 24, 2009 1:34 PM CDT up reply actions  

It's the combination that strikes me as odd

Fine, bat Gentry first, but don’t hit Lemon 9th to do so. Bat Lemon 9th if you’re loaded, but don’t hit a handful of non or fringe guys high in the order.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 24, 2009 8:48 PM CDT up reply actions  

maybe because Lemon

has a .972 ops batting 9th vs .622 batting second. The only two places in the order where he has had significant ABs.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 24, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

Who cares?

If he is bad in the #2 spot, he needs to work at it. It’s an ideal spot in the order for him.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 24, 2009 12:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

The players, manager, coaches and fans might care.

Yes, the purpose of the minor leagues is to develop the talent. But winning does matter.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 24, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

I hate the "spot in the order" stats.

Especially with a SS this S.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?

by thedirkatron on Jun 24, 2009 1:35 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh man I've got questions alright

before Smoak came back, Osuna and Lemon were the 8-9 guys with Moreland #2 hitting in front of Smitty and Tracy at cleanup. Bizarre.

by Goyogringo on Jun 24, 2009 12:34 AM CDT up reply actions  

chad tracy

i keep hoping he’ll break out and go crazy. He’s doing ok. but damn. I was thinking he’d be hitting more for power this year.

My garden this year... planted tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers, squash, okra, and for the first time i went with eggplant
Chapman Family Historical Photos

by cowpoke on Jun 24, 2009 12:48 AM CDT up reply actions  

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