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by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 9:47 PM CDT
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by JustinH89 on Jun 27, 2009 9:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Ah
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji9xq-yQmnU
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 27, 2009 9:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Will be interesting to see
how this team responds.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 27, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
sigh
time for a new phrase
my sig is better than yours
by hinduplaya on Jun 27, 2009 9:56 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice new tagline
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 27, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but our we really more angry then Yankee fans?
When you think about it, they really suck. High payroll, over payed players, not in first place. I mean we weren’t competing for a world series run this year any ways. It was fun while it lasted and it will be a fun and bumpy road if we regain first but I’m not mad or disapointed in any way.
Did I mention I hate the Yankees?
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by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Yanks make the playoffs if the season ends today.
They’re also +53 run diff, while we’re only +20.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Second Place Mother Effin Texas Rangers doesn't have quite the same ring to it.
This sucks but it is still way to early to panic. This is not the first sign of the apocalypse.
by CRUSHDAVIS on Jun 27, 2009 10:00 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No, it's just the result of an offensive apocalypse.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rather that then the pitching and defense sucking,
like it has every year since, well, since I’ve been a Rangers fan!
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh
Hammy is back in a week or so, a new chapter shall begin, for the better.
"You're going to love my nuts"
Vince from slap chop
by BigGuns on Jun 27, 2009 10:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well they have to tread water
And keep it within shouting distance or it will do no good when he comes back.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
disappointed
Ive been thinking for weeks now that the rangers may need to reevaluate their position on Derek holland. I think that starts like this could hurt him in the long run. We need to nurture his arm not just through him into the fire. He is major league ready, but i think he is just bullpen ready atm. Unfortunately we really dont have any options for a starter as of right now.
by Maysin on Jun 27, 2009 10:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, let's stick him back in the bullpen where he can neglect his secondary pitches some more
Great plan.
IMO, getting hammered like tonight is just what Holland needs. He needs to learn he can’t just pump his fastball in there and succeed as a starter, and he’s never gonna learn that in the bullpen. He needs to start, and if you don’t want him starting in the majors he needs to start in OKC.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
minors may be right then
then the answer may be the minors. He’s getting hammered up here. He’s had really only 1 good start. I cant say he really used his secondary pitches all that much today. they keyed in on his fastball because he wouldnt throw 3 off speed for strikes in one at bat. you cant through a 93-95 mph fastball past major league hitters… maybe for 1 time around the order but they will key on it and they will rip it. keeping him in the rotation and pretty much taking a loss is not gonna get us to the playoffs. But as i said right now we have no one to replace him…. i hope im wrong, i hope your right and this is a wake up call that you cant just throw fastballs to major league hitters…
by Maysin on Jun 27, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keep running him out there
he will not learn to get out big league hitters in AAA, it is not time to get scared. He better make every start the rest of the year no matter if he his ERA is 7
Keepin it Classy Gentlemen
by Hamiltons Homey on Jun 27, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I didn't think he looked that bad
Practically everything they hit found a hole.
He had 8 ks and 1 BB, and never looked the least bit rattled or despondent.
Obviously, he needs to command the heat a little better, but i thought he worked some good mojo w/ breaking stuff in in the later innings.
I think your jerky knee is misplaced.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 27, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'm agree, too.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jun 28, 2009 1:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hee hee
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by rangerdanger on Jun 28, 2009 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't his problem
Again, it all starts and ends with fastball command. That, and a lot of the “hits” tonight were weak grounders and line shots that found holes and Young.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 27, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
even the GB to MY wasn't a weak GB
Holland gave up a lot of hard hit balls tonight. Maybe 3 of the hits were “weak”
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Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 27, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
true
it just seemed that he would go to his fastball when it may have been better to throw an off speed pitch. He seems almost afraid of throwing that curve ball in a tight spot or as an out pitch… everything ive said is just an opinion and typically im wrong
by Maysin on Jun 27, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fastball command is a problem
But he still can’t (or won’t) seem to fall back on his secondary stuff when his fastball command is off. To me, that’s the real problem. I think if he had confidence in his secondary offerings he’d be able to pick his spots with the fastball better and be more effective even when his fastball command was off.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he had eight strikeouts right?
When is the last time you felt good about a poor performance from a pitcher that still netted 8 strikeouts? Prob a while Jon.
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by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's fine.
8:1 k/bb ratio tonight.
Sometimes you have good stuff, but you just get hit.
I was kind of half-watching tonight cause I was visiting with my Sister and her new baby, but, while some of those hits were on mistakes, many were really good pitches that just got hit.
It happens.
He’ll be fine.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
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by thedirkatron on Jun 27, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep.
He’ll go the Danks route. Take his lumps this year and take off the next.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 27, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If they let him he will.
And they need to let him, which was my original point above.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not as fragile as you make it out to be.
You’re being hyperbolic for no reason.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 28, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can agree with that,
but I can also agree with him in the bullpen. Many good pitchers have started their careers out of the bull pen as well.
Either way, I hope Derek comes aroung and becomes that Ace everyone wants him to be.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree and a wreck my friend
He just needs the experience and so does Salty. Growing a pitcher and his catcher together won’t come over night. I wouldn’t place all the blame if any on Holland. He will adjust. Its funny to think of how young he is. He is younger then me and I thought I was young.
By the way, I turn 26 on Mon bitches!!
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There were a lot of positives for Holland.
He did strike out 8 batters and with a bit better defense, wouldnt have given up as many runs. He also learned a very valuable lesson about pitch selection. I think he’ll be a bit better next time out.
by Redcaps on Jun 28, 2009 8:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starts like that is what basically turned CJ into a good if not great at times reliever,
no need to ruin Derek in becoming a good to great starting pitcher.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
2nd place
WHERE IS YOUR GOD NOW RODNEY?
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 27, 2009 10:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Baseball Jesus? He's right above you!
"You're going to love my nuts"
Vince from slap chop
by BigGuns on Jun 27, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Face of the Fail
now rocking a .310 OBP for the month.
Ugh.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I wonder if Josey will tell us that 100 games BS
Applies to his bat as well now.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey he did his job
He got a hit in the ninth damn it! lol
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 27, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course
you wonder what I think or will tell you.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 8:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
See, this is what I was trying to tell you yesterday. That was a joke at your expense. Nobody actually wonders what you think, silly.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 28, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah but everyone has been hitting bad.
You can’t really place the blame or his stats on just him. It happens to the best of good hitters.
Funny to think of how clutch he was a few years ago and how he has settled in to just a reliable bat at times, not all, but a guy you would want at the plate when needed, at least I still feel that way.
He sorta reminds me of a bobby abreau type. Never overwhelming but want him up in critical situations, even though Mike’s slumping
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by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Derosa reportedly traded to Cardinals
for a RHP called Chris Perez that I have never heard of. What’s the equivalent prospect for the Rangers?
by alon91 on Jun 27, 2009 10:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for DeRo
Hope he can get some playing time there, although I will have a harder time cheering for him in a Cards uniform.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 27, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Curious, why do you not like the Cards
I thought everyone but division rivals were at least indifferent on the Cards.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 27, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My parents are Cubs fans
Does that explain it?
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 27, 2009 10:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BA says he's their #3 prospect
with our farm system I wonder where he’d be..
"I hope a bartender appears, with a shot and a beer everytime ya holler, cause yeah man, that's lucky"-Pat Green
"I want to be wearing the red, blue and white."-Matt Purke
by JustinH89 on Jun 27, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
also says
he has the best slider in their organization and was slotted to be the closer in 2012
"I hope a bartender appears, with a shot and a beer everytime ya holler, cause yeah man, that's lucky"-Pat Green
"I want to be wearing the red, blue and white."-Matt Purke
by JustinH89 on Jun 27, 2009 10:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow DeRo is no scrub still ..
"You're going to love my nuts"
Vince from slap chop
by BigGuns on Jun 27, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, seems like the Cards just got ripped off.
- Prospect in their Org for about 2/3 of a season of Mark DeRosa? Jesus Christ.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay, that was wierd.
I know typed #3.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Test
- Item 1
- Item 2
- Item 2a
- Bullet point 1
- Bullet point 2
- Bullet point 2a
How cool! Wiki formatting.
by NorCalRangersFan on Jun 27, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright, now
tell us what you did.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Numbered lists are done by putting ‘#’ followed by ’ ’ (space) at the beginning of a a line. Then whatever text you want. You can indent sublists by using more than one: “##”, or “###”.
The same thing for bulletted lists, except you use asterisk ‘*’ instead of ‘#’.
by NorCalRangersFan on Jun 29, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Perez
Sickels ranked him #3 in the Cards sytstem this year, giving him a B+.
Goldstein had him listed as a four-star prospect.
BA also had him at #3 in the Cards org.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's a profile on him
http://futureredbirds.com/2008/01/30/prospect-profile-chris-perez/
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah but when you look at it pitchers are like a gamble,
even great pitchers in the minors turn into nothing more than a good to average reliever. Good gamble by the cards. They want to win and they took a chance.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers?
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
SP prospect more valuable than RP prospects. Kiker maybe?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 27, 2009 10:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got better K rates than Kiker
But some major BB/9 problems in his MiLB career. He was actually called up this year though and has pitched in 29 games out of the Cards bullpen, putting up a 4.18 ERA and a 4.45 FIP.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The good closers
typically come up as SP prospects, do they not?
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
but Scheppers will be a top 5 Rangers prospect as a SP. I don’t think Perez equals that.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 27, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perez was a top prospect, I believe starting until the big leagues.
He has two pitches, IIRC.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
I don’t know that we really have someone equal to Perez in our system right now. Live, MLB rady arm with crazy K numbers, but crazy walk rates too.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected
Who are the Cardinals top 2 prospects?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 27, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rasmus and 3B Brett Wallace
It seems Perez was the consensus top pitching prospect in the Cards system.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Scheppers
some people have suggested that he could be ready sometime next year, out of the pen, conceivably.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That would be kind of a waste of his value, IMO.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some people say the same about Feliz.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not exactly a fan of trying to break Feliz in as a bullpen weapon myself.
There’s David Pricing him, and then there’s making him a reliever, which it kinda seems is what the Rangers are doing right now.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't get your hopes up on every prospect.
If that’s what it takes to get our “champeeeenship” players on the field at the same time, ..
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd settle for delaying a run at a title
If it means getting our best championship players on the field in their ideal roles.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Really?
I may be misinterpreting this, but it sounds like you’re saying that you’d rather forego trying to make the playoffs this year if trying to make the playoffs this year means using Holland or Feliz out of the bullpen.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I'm saying is, I'd rather see Holland and Feliz in the rotation next year
Than go to the playoffs with a team that’s just going to get steamrolled this year. So yeah.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're not taking this 1/2 game out
very well.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why do you say this team is just going to get steamrolled?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The offense sucks, and the pitching has basically been propped up by the defense this year.
I just don’t see how we could possibly go anywhere in the playoffs with this team.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You are overreacting
You really think there’s no possible way that, if this team were to make the playoffs, it could conceivably win 4 out of 7 games against either the Yanks or the D-Rays (who would be the Rangers’ first round opponent)?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake
Probably the Red Sox — they’d probably play the A.L. East winner, not the Wild Card team.
Still, though, the point remains…
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't think this team could be expected to beat
One of the three best teams in the AL.
Just because anything can happen in the playoffs doesn’t mean you should put all your money on 2009 and go sailing in with a rickety ship full of holes.
If we get there, that’s great. I’d love to see that happen. I just don’t want to see us sacrificing any of our young player’s developments in order to get there.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Expected to beat?
So we shouldn’t try to make the playoffs unless we’re going to be the favorites when we are there?
And who is saying put all your money on 2009? You are acting like having Feliz or Holland pitch out of the pen right now is crippling the team’s chances in the future.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 11:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I just don't think we should try too hard to make the playoffs until we know we have a team that can contend.
Right now I don’t think we have that. If we know we’re leaving contending in the playoffs to chance, then we should leave making the playoffs to chance.
Bottom line is, I just don’t like the bullpen approach. I guess it makes a little more sense with Feliz, because of the innings issue, but pushing Holland into the bullpen clearly didn’t help him in any manner, and I don’t see why we’re so eager to do that with Feliz now, save for the fact that we think we’re going for it in 2009.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow.
What an incredibly wrong opinion.
by brettgardner on Jun 27, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And an incredibly well thought out disagreement, too.
Yay!
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
What response would be appropriate? You’re the guy with the extremely retarded position. I’m just pointing out that the Baseball Jesus has no clothes.
by brettgardner on Jun 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd just sort of like to hear why my position is so retarded.
Or more specifically, which part of it you’re taking issue with, the bullpen part or the contending in the playoffs part.
Because the bullpen part is pretty much my own stupid idiosyncrasy, I’ll admit that. But I really do think this team (and any other ALW team) will get steamrolled if they make the playoffs this year.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The playoff part.
If I may, I’d like to take your position to its logical conclusion:
We shouldn’t try to make the playoffs unless we can advance, but we shouldn’t try to advance unless we can make the World Series, but we shouldn’t try to make the World Series unless we can win it, but we can’t be sure if we’ll win it, so we might as well not even make the playoffs, and if we’re not going to make the playoffs, we might as well have the worst record in baseball to get the top pick, but then he might bust too, so….
by brettgardner on Jun 27, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I didn't say we shouldn't try to make the playoffs
Just that we shouldn’t try too hard when our team isn’t fully prepared.
You can never be sure about what will happen in October, that much is true – but I think you can look at your teams weaknesses and gauge what kind of a chance you have. And right now, I don’t think we have much of a chance.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you taking into account...
…the additional revenue the club generates by making the playoffs, including better attendance the following season?
Are you taking into account the improved ability of the team to recruit free agents?
Are you taking into account the experience that the young players you are trying to build around get from playing in the playoffs?
You really seem to be looking at this in a vacuum, and a pretty short-sighted vacuum, at that.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 11:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
But are those benifits really worth possibly tripping up the development of Feliz and Holland as starters, when they could concievably be part of a rotation that would stand a chance in the playoffs next year?
I just think by pushing the young guys too hard to make the playoffs just to make a point now, we could be delaying making a serious playoff run.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
I don’t agree with your underlying assumption — that this is harming the development of Feliz and/or Holland.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 11:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, the damage might already have been done where Holland is concerned
I think now that he was probably brought up and stuck into an unfamilar role before he was ready, period, and his struggles now are largely a result of that. I think if he’d been left in OKC to start consistently and brought up when Harrison or McCarthy went down, his transition into the big league rotation would’ve been a lot smoother.
It’s Feliz I’m really worried about – I wouldn’t have a problem with him pitching out of the bullpen later this year to manage his innings, but if they’re going to actually make him an official setup man for the rest of the season, I do worry how it will affect his transition to being a starter next year, and if it could lead to his being yanked back and forth between a role where he’ll be more effective more immediately and a role where he has greater value.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on
Well, the damage might already have been done where Holland is concerned
He’s been damaged by pitching out of the bullpen? How?
And he was pitching in an unfamiliar role? How many pitchers who break into the majors pitching out of the bullpen were pitching out of the bullpen in the minors? I’d wager that there aren’t a whole ton of them.
You are being histrionic on this issue. The idea that having a young pitcher pitch out of the bullpen when he comes to the majors is going to cause him some harm is ridiculous.
And the whole “Feliz can’t pitch out of the major league pen now because what if he’s not ready to be in the rotation at the start of 2010” thing is just bizarre.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland hadn't pitched out of the 'pen since low A or rookie League IIRC
And I do think being in the ‘pen is part of where this reliance on his fastball developed. We know he hardly ever threw his secondary stuff when he was coming out of the ’pen, his change in particular. If he’d been allowed the opportunity to make some starts in OKC to fine tune his sec’s, I really don’t think he’d be so over-reliant on the fastball right now.
And with Feliz, I think you’re missing my point. I know he’s probably going to pitch out of the ‘pen at some point this year, but making it his official new role is what worries me. Once a guy is officially given the label of bullpen fireballer, it seems there always follows the temptation to just leave him where he’s already being awesome instead of sending him back down to stretch out again when the time comes.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 28, 2009 12:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
On Holland, again, I don’t see what the big deal is. He came up and pitched out of the bullpen. He threw the fastball a lot, because it was his best pitch. I have a hard time believing that if he hadn’t been in the bullpen that he’d be throwing his secondary stuff more now that he’s in the rotation. I just don’t buy that.
On Feliz…I don’t see what you are so concerned about. You complain that Holland pitched out of the bullpen in the majors after starting in the minors, and that it messed him up because he wasn’t used to the role. And then you complain that Feliz is being used in the bullpen in the minors before he gets called up to the majors to pitch out of the bullpen, because you don’t want that to be his “official role” and because, it sounds like, you are afraid he’ll be successful out of the pen and never again move to the rotation.
It sounds to me like you basically don’t want a young pitcher who projects as a starter to pitch out of the bullpen in the majors, and you think Feliz’s future is in jeopardy because the Rangers organization is filled with a bunch of simpletons who can’t figure out that a top of the rotation starter is more valuable than a good setup man.
You really seem to be blowing this way out of proportion.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, maybe you're right, I am just a little bit overwrought about things right now
But you’re right, I don’t really think guys you want to use as starters should be used as fireballers out of the bullpen. I don’t see what purpose blowing guys away an inning at a time serves in a starters development.
And after watching the Mariners ruin their top pitching prospect, and proceed to ‘pen their #2 or 3 pitching prospect as well… yeah, I am somewhat concerned that it’s possible for our org to fall in love with a good setup man or closer too.
But yeah, maybe I am just blowing this out of proportion, likely because I’m frustrated right now and looking for a bone to pick. Those are my concerns, but they’re probably not worth all this.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 28, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If bullpen use is so bad
why have so many good starters pitched out of the bullpen at the beginning of their careers? It’s a good place to learn to face ML hitters and gain confidence.
And comparing the Mariners handling to Holland and Feliz is apples and oranges. Different players, different circumstances.
Many, many starters pitched out of the bullpen at the beginning of their ML career. It is a practice with a very long history supported by the successful careers of those pitchers after their bullpen experience.
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by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I personally don’t, but I may be more naturally pessimistic than others.
by LiamP on Jun 27, 2009 11:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't consider myself a pessimist, and I agree
This team as presently constructed, gets eviscerated in the playoffs.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 27, 2009 11:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perhaps
but that’s no reason to not try to put the best 25 players on the field, or use Feliz out of the bullpen. And I think it would be a great experience for the young players even if they were eviscerated.
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by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed on all counts
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 28, 2009 8:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
The offense doesn’t suck.
It has sucked in the month of June, but it doesn’t suck overall.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
MLB OPS by month
The entire league seems to be slumping:
April .760
May .750
June .734
The Rangers, as we know, have been terrible lately:
April .826
May .816
June .669 (surprisingly 3 teams are worse this month.)
Meanwhile the Angels are hot:
April .768
May .730
June .822
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by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why are the two things mutually exclusive?
Fuck me, are you sitting in the corner of your room with your cock in one hand and a knife in the other right now?
by LiamP on Jun 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Why are the two things mutually exclusive?
That’s what I was wondering.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How are the Rangers "making him a reliever"?
I don’t understand this sudden fear that the Rangers are doing a Brandon Morrow with Feliz.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Converting him to the 'pen in OKC?
I understand bringing him up through the bullpen, David Price style, but they’re clearly converting him to full-time relief for the time being so they can make a run at the division. JD’s admitted as much, and kind of been cryptic about whether they still see him as a starter in the future.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
They plan on using him out of the pen the rest of the way. And as z pointed out, if they didn’t move him to the pen now or fairly soon, he’d hit his innings limited towards the end of August and be irrelevant during September anyway.
I just don’t see what the problem is. As I’ve said before, I think spending the bulk of your first season pitching out of the bullpen is probably a good thing for pitchers, particularly pitchers coming into the A.L. and pitching in a hitter’s park.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 27, 2009 10:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Perez was the closer on
opening day this year. Blew the lead and win. Had another couple rough outings and Franklin was installed as closer. Perez has been ok since. They also have Jason Motte, similar hard thrower and age. They may have felt they didn’t need both.
My guess is TLR will love DeRo and do all kinds of crazy stuff with him. Or maybe just put him at 3rd full time. We’ll see.
by stltxfan on Jun 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Motte was the closer on opening day.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 27, 2009 10:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected
i went back and looked and you are right. Screw me. thanks for the correction. Let that be a lesson what drinking can do to you….
by stltxfan on Jun 27, 2009 10:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason
I remember this is because I drafted him in one of my leagues.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 27, 2009 10:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didn't perez get
a 9th inning shot too and it didn’t go well? Prior to Franklin settling in as the closer.
by stltxfan on Jun 27, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
From what I'm reading, Perez's secondary stuff (slider/curve) is a lot better than Motte's.
He’s got control problems, but from a raw stuff standpoint it doesn’t seem any other pitching prospect in the Cards org could touch him.
Perez seems like a classic bang or bust type, but from a talent return standpoint it kinda looks like the Cards just got ripped off.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And apparently, there's a PTBNL in the deal heading to the Tribe as well.
For Mark freaking DeRosa. Wow.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't Matt Kata.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 27, 2009 10:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it's not
But D-Ro is basically a 2/3 of a season rental, and he’s putting up a .347 wOBA and has been horrible defensively at 3B this year. He’s not bad, but he’s pretty unspectacular.
Giving up your #3 prospect for him plus a PTBNL seems like a really heavy price to pay for a 2/3 of a year rental.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what his FA status would be though.
He did have a really good year last year, so if he’s a type A I guess this deal would look a bit better.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't the Matt Kata Rangers
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
def wanted Texas to take a stab at him.
His defense and his offense would look nice in this slumping lineup.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cardinals may not be done yet
rumors they are interesting in matt holliday
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 28, 2009 7:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland
I didn’t see the game, but looking at the box score his peripherals seem to be sexy as hell. Did he simply get unlucky with lots of balls finding bad places to land, or did Dutch give up all sorts of screaming lingers?
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-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on Jun 27, 2009 10:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
weak shots
really a lot were just seeing eye singles… couple of line drives to the wall or the gap… his command with his fastball seemed to be a bit off and they were keying in on it…
by Maysin on Jun 27, 2009 10:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Liners*
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
by Conjunction on Jun 27, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Davis over the last 7 days: .984 ops.
I’m just sayin’ is all.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 27, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hope this isn't another tease that will be followed by another 0-30.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 10:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Streaky though,
this offense needs consistancy not streaky hitters to make a playoff run.
God how sexy does a middle of the lineup look with Hammy, Cruz, and Smoak. Sexy I say, straight up Sexy!
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Never listened to this guy before, but this song is ok.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SG-I1Mvzdzg&feature=PlayList&p=174E0DD66C4249F5&index=22
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 27, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That guy's playlist is very interesting
Bookmarked for later viewing.
I love Beck. His schtick reminds me lots of Neil Young. And I love Neil. I’ve read that Beck is heavily in the clutches of scientology – the quirky lyrics defeat their censors. Along those lines, Darby Crash was raised in a freaky-deaky scientology school, which sorta helps explain his later probs, and makes one curious why the makers of What We Do Is Secret sorta left that part out. … yeah, right …
by shroomer on Jun 28, 2009 2:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You've probably heard a couple of his songs without realizing:
“Loser” and “Where It’s At”…fairly big hits:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-l3_gwIOTGI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smUMOm6-P2U&feature=related
by Clueless on Jun 28, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's really good, sometimes.
Sea Change was one helluvanalbum.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Everyone needs to drive a vehicle, even the very tall. This was the largest auto I could afford. Should I therefore be made the subject of fun?
by thedirkatron on Jun 28, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sea Chane was epic
Surprised Chase has never heard of him.
I think Odelay sold over eleventy billion.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 28, 2009 8:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And Sea ChanGe was good too
Ol Sizzle Fingers McThomas coughs up another one.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 28, 2009 8:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get ready for Blalock to bust out tomorrow
7/8 lifetime off Gaudin.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 27, 2009 10:39 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I had a bad feeling about tonight.
I had a feeling the boys would be at least somewhat aware that our first place standing depending on the outcome of this game, and would subsequently try too hard and end up not doing well.
I did, however, call the CD home run. My exact words were, ‘Home run, right here,’ as the pitch was being thrown.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 27, 2009 10:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
You called it, huh?
Well that’s almost as good as a win!
by brettgardner on Jun 27, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Is it so wrong that even when we lose,
I can still find things to enjoy about the game?
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 27, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 27, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I try to see the good in a loose but
I do not enjoy losing and that out ways the good every time for me. I grew up with the concept of second place is just the first place loser. I have softend on that stance but losing still sucks and always will. After a loss to the Yankees I never go get the paper in the morning and I eventually end up throwing it away without ever reading it. It will be this way tomorrow because we fell out of first.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 27, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
loss not loose.
Have another beer Tracy
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 27, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I had to read it a couple times but I think I see what you're saying.
On the other hand, I think it would be silly to spend 3 hours a night at the ballpark and not be able to find something to enjoy about it, win or lose. I’m not into misery for fun and sport.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 27, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
When I had my season tickets
Every time after a loss I would be so pissed driving home I would not talk. I just really hate losing. Same for life I hate losing at anything. I don’t know how to describe it but it really is hard on me.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 27, 2009 11:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think that should be my problem.
I mean, it’s fine for you and I’m not saying it’s a bad thing. But I don’t appreciate that I can’t point out something enjoyable about my experience at the game without being accused of not caring that the team lost.
And yes, I am aware that that wasn’t you.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
by RachelB on Jun 28, 2009 12:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know you well enough from seeing your post
To know you care. I was just telling you how others feel.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 12:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"I do not enjoy losing and that out ways the good every time for me. "
But Boomer, you are a Rangers fan, so shouldn’t you be used to losing. It makes the highs that much higher for me and makes the loses just another day ya know. We have improved on pitching and d so I am at least okay with losing.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn Skippy Rachel. I agree
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Byrd and Blalock
The hacktastic duo are costing themselves a lot of potential FA dollars, and pissing me off too.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Jun 27, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
NRI for both...... Who bites and takes it first?
I say Blalok only because he is a home grown talent.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 6:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock will get a garunteed contract with someone just because of his power.
Byrd probably will too, because good BA + solid defensive reputation + his last two years creates the illusion of pretty decent everyday player.
They’re just not gonna cash in like Milton Bradley did or nuthin’.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 28, 2009 7:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
which makes me think that one of them would be willing to stay and be a part of the future and be on a club set to make a good series of playoff runs.
question is Jon, which one will think the opposite of what Milton was thinking.
The bloggerformelyknownasBigBaddBubbaJ
by NYTXFAN on Jun 28, 2009 7:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, you meant as NRI's for us?
I thought you meant elsewhere.
I have no idea why we’d keep them around, even if we could NRI them. Blalock is a DH with an injury history who can only hit RHP’s, and we’ve got three guys in Borbon, Boggs and Golson who could probably take Byrd’s place. With Smoak coming and MaxRam and Davis hopefully having fixed their offensive games by next year, there’s going to be a 1B/DH logjam as well.
We just don’t need them.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 28, 2009 7:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did anybody watch the John Rhadigan special on FSSW after the game
Pretty entertaining. A few things:
Van damn, if one of those dudes ever complains about his life, I will kick an old woman down a flight of stairs.
Omar Vizquel may be the biggest metrosexual in all of sports. I don’t know about everybody else, but if one of my friends pimped that orange ensemble, he’d be reduced to tears by the time we got through w/ him.
The hijinks on the flight were eerily similar to navy life.
Rhadigan pulled the story off nicely. I’d love to see take 2, the comedy version, with “Knoxie” or the other dude, the one w/ the biggest cranium in all of sports, playin grabass w/ team.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 27, 2009 11:37 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"he’d be reduced to tears by the time we got through w/ him."
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 27, 2009 11:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sweet Jesus
I don’t know whether to call that disturbingly funny or just oddly creepy.
Yikes, man, I was about to pour a nightcap and go to bed.
Regardless, that’s damn fine gif usage.
Still.
Fuckin a.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 27, 2009 11:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 27, 2009 11:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what they say about shoe size.
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by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Metrosexual huh? Is he straight?
That orange get up looked like something a ghey from a Latin country would wear. They tend to like really really bright clothes down there. Even in Mexico their fashion sense is atrocious.
He stuck out like a sore thumb in NYC, people don’t dress like that there. If they did they would be told very quickly and be made to change at whatever cost.
"You're going to love my nuts"
Vince from slap chop
by BigGuns on Jun 28, 2009 7:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, it was truly godawful
On the plane he had a pretty cool shirt on, but he cheesed that one out too, by buttoning the top button but leaving the two below undone, so that you could see his chest in the little flap created by how skin tight the shirt was (and of course, no undershirt).
The reason I said he was a metro was b/c how much time and effort he clearly put into his getups. Funny dude.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 28, 2009 8:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: NL East
Records against teams other than the Natinals:
NYM 30-34
PHI 28-32
FLA 32-38
ATL 30-38
Not good.
"A good start would be not giving up 900 runs again." -Jon Daniels
by Randy Richardson on Jun 27, 2009 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
angels and rangers records
Rangers
AL: 31-25
NL: 9-8
Angels
AL: 27-28
NL: 13-4
Maybe the sky isnt falling
by Maysin on Jun 27, 2009 11:53 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
The timing
of those interleague games explains pretty much all of that.
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by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Has anyone read
over at Inside Corner about how Hank seems to think he’s still an everyday player?
Him and his .242 AVG and .288 OBP, I guess.
Article here, for those who haven’t seen it: http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/index.php/2009/06/27/rangers-notes-hank-blalock-believes-he-is-still-an-everyday-player-and-more/
Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.
by jonthefon on Jun 28, 2009 2:44 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep, every day the opposition starts a righty.
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by t ball on Jun 28, 2009 6:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, maybe the Rangers will jump back into first.
The Angels have Palmer pitching and the D’Backs have Scherzer.
by Redcaps on Jun 28, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
From HalosHeaven
On Saturday night, the last-place Indians, all but out of contention and getting an early jump on the summer trading season, shipped him off to the Cardinals for right-handed reliever Chris Perez and a player to be named.
The reason I added this link was to point out that trading for relief pitching can be done. Chris Perez is the type of pitcher the Angels should target, has the ability to get batters out now and young enough to improve. For Mark DeRosa? What type of pitcher could Erick Aybar bring?
Heh
by robert_d_wilfong on Jun 28, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I cannot believe that before the season -
A) I picked the Cleveland Indians to go to the World Series (and meet the LA Dodgers)
B) Eric Wedge still has a job.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
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