Sunday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 10:47 AM CDT
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So for the first time in almost two months, the Rangers aren't in first place. This day seemed inevitable, because...well, because, that's what happens in playoff races. Teams are in first place, then they often drop into second, and then they oftentimes go back into first. It happens.
There has seemed to be a mentality, though, among Rangers fans that once the Rangers fall out of first, that's it...it is over. Of course, among some, there has been a mentality that this day was inevitable, that this team just isn't good enough to stay in first and thus the Rangers were going to fall out of first before too long anyway. But beyond that, there seems to be almost an attitude that if the Rangers fell out of first place, that was it...the Angels are the better team, and if they could manage to pass the Rangers at some point this season, the Rangers weren't going to be able to get first place back.
I don't think that's a given, but obviously, this coming series against Anaheim is pretty big. If Texas loses today and gets swept by Anaheim, they could be 4.5 games back in the middle of next week. Taking two of three or sweeping Anaheim, though, should get the Rangers back in first. And this is a team that's gotten basically nothing from Josh Hamilton this season, or from Chris Davis, or from their catchers...this is not a team that is playing over its head so far, particularly offensively.
Anthony Andro writes that Derek Holland had a strange start, allowing 13 hits while striking out 8, only the third time this decade that a pitcher has allowed at least 13 hits while striking out at least 8.
Ron Washington says that his secondary stuff was better in San Francisco, and because he could throw his secondary pitches for strikes, the Giants couldn't sit on his fastball, like the Padres did.
Holland getting back on track is particularly key with Matt Harrison going on the disabled list. Tommy Hunter is making today's start in place of Harrison, and I'm guessing he'll be sent down after the game, with Greg Golson being called up to get the Rangers back to 13 position players. With an off-day on Thursday, the Rangers are skipping the 5th starter spot next time around, and then a decision will have to be made as to who is going to fill that role in Harrison's absence. My guess is that Jason Jennings will step into the rotation, although if Dustin Nippert continues to make progress in his rehab stints, he could possibly be an option.
Gil LeBreton says that the Rangers are leaking, and there's no easy solution for what is ailing them. LeBreton hits in particular on the offense, which has been bad all month, but also points out the main problem with any quick fix:
Trading for Washington Nationals first baseman Nick Johnson — a bad idea, by the way — isn’t going to solve this.
Nor is any one move that Rangers general manager Jon Daniels or club president Nolan Ryan could be contemplating.
Jean-Jacques Taylor offers his baseball wisdom this morning, as well. He says there's no reason to worry about the offense. Why?
We can talk about the Rangers' pitiful offensive performance this month – they delivered another putrid effort against the Padres – but history says the Rangers will eventually hit and score runs.
So there you go. Taylor says that this team's problem is that the starting pitching isn't good enough.
Evan Grant has some notes up, which includes Hank Blalock saying he thinks he is still an everyday player, and updates on Josh Hamilton and German Duran. Duran, Grant says, had to be put on release waivers because a player cannot be outrighted if he's on the minor league disabled list.
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Blalock
God I wish they hadn’t exercised that option. How in the world can he think he’s an everyday player? Is he so oblivious that he can’t say that he’s played his way to the bench?
by Black Francis on Jun 28, 2009 10:55 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
According to Gil Lebreton
the best strategy is for the Ranger FO to sit there and piss themselves. How did Manny Ramirez impact the Dodger offense last year and more importantly, why the hell are you writing about baseball, Gil?
OT- Saw that I popped up in the GDT, of course. Don’t believe that I ever made a series of creepy comments with sexual connotations in here, lonestar Jon but your lie is duly noted.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 10:57 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yes, that's what he's saying
Sit there and piss themselves.
What do you suggest they do?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fix their OBP problem.
A .318 OBP in the AL = sub .500 record.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A .sub .500 record over 162 games.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM
Are you a proponent of just sitting their and pissing themselves?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"sitting there"
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm in favor of not making a move right now
I’m not in favor of anybody pissing themselves. I don’t understand why you keep saying that.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not in favor
of anyone pissing themselves, although I hear your Grandpa has put out a strong recommendation to JD to jar some up for a rainy day.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was our uncle.
"Blalock in the cleanup spot makes gives me agita." - Dustin
by benmor78 on Jun 28, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, always get that wrong.
However, it’d be nice if JD had a jar or two around to fling at Galloway.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only one pissing themselves
is Grandpa Urine after too much Jose Cuervo.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How should they fix that problem?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would appear that TT needs to be playing more v. RH's
and that Blalock should be playing instead of Crush v. leftys.
I would have found Boggs more playing time.
As for trades, who knows? I don’t what they can afford. If somebody like Lombardo gets run when attendance is up, how much can they spend?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you realize how stupid you sound?
This is a team that’s had problems offensively and that has won because of stellar defense.
So your solution to the problems they are having is to put a shitty OBP guy who plays lousy defense at first base against lefties, so he can offer bad defense and his .214 OBP this year against LHPs (.281 OBP against lefties in his career).
This is stupid, and I can’t believe you come on here day after day trying to peddle that bullshit.
Blalock against lefties makes this team worse, not better.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM
So you think the current strategy works?
How many sub .320 OBP teams in the AL finish above .500, Emperor Morris?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean, "current strategy"?
Do you think the current strategy is to run a sub-.300 OBP team out there?
If Davis keeps putting up a .260 OBP, he will be replaced.
Josh Hamilton will return shortly and post a better OBP.
Your boy Hank F. Blalock and his .288 OBP has been a big part of the OBP problem, as well.
I don’t see any obvious position, there, where you can say “we’ve got to get rid of who we have at this position and go out and get someone new,” other than possibly DH, now that Davis is showing some signs of life.
Your position appears to be that the solution to the problem is to play Teagarden more and play Hank F. Blalock at 1B every day, and that appears to be rearranging deck chairs to me.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may be rearranging the chairs but it's better than
beating your head against the wall every day and thinking it will eventually stop hurting.
The current line-up strategy is killing this thing.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you have
An explanation as to why you view Davis’ 2008 differently than Blalock’s?
by brettgardner on Jun 28, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes he does
Davis is a JD guy and Blalock was here before JD.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
this
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
simple enough.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 28, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So you want to make a move just for the sake of making a move?
Rather than being patient and waiting for Hamilton to return and some guys who are slumping to pull out of it?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Something to be aware of
Sorting out who plays and who doesn’t is like choosing oranges on the sale table. A lousy team OBP is the primary issue, but if you look closely, failure to move or score those who do get on base is the punctuation mark for the problem statement.
Projections would indicate the team should be doing a better job of both, but they aren’t doing so. Changng the batting order simply puts different players in the ’didn’t get the job done’ situation. In a sense, maybe four starters are underperforming, or at least underachieving. But the reality is, they do what they do. In a couple of cases (David and at times Cruz) it has to be a slump. In other cases, you really can’t expect more from a player than he is producing.
That’s for a couple of reasons. Blalock has lost his approach to hitting and doesn’t seem even able to bring it back. Byrd is a uniformed anxiety attack at the plate. Boggs never gets enough PT to settle in. Murphy makes every effort to improve and is only partially successful. Andrus is learning and impressing with his adaptability. MY is a proven bat commodity, but this June has had a big number of the worst at bats I’ve ever seen him take. Salty has paid his defensive upgrade dues, and that’s what he’s here for, so the uneven hitting should be dismissed until he’s a four year vet. Taylor is what he is, one of those guys who is so good behind the plate you know what you got, and if he hits it’s icing – he may exemplify the type who is as good at 19 or 21 as he’s ever going to be. Kinsler (albeit not vocally) is trying to carry the whole team on his shoulders – and probably won’t ever admit it. Hamilton is probably as confused about his early nonproductivity as anyone on the planet, and even if he rebounds won’t be superman.
A perfect storm of diminished output when it involves so many players. I don’t think it’s so much “get it back” as simply “get it going”. Maybe they can. Don’t know if they will.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 28, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
aaarrgh that's Davis, not David
typo
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 28, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree
about Boggs. Im about as a huge a Murphy proponent as there is here but a Boggs/Murphy platoon would be ideal. Taking a holistic view (Defense, development, offense, past performance) i believe that right now Davis is the best option at 1B. IF, the club decided to demote Davis down AAA to get his head right then Blalock would be the best option left. Honestly, i dont think this club makes a trade and not for lack of effort.
by Michael Cave on Jun 28, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe that right now Davis is the best option at 1B. IF
this is my viewpoint as well — there is simply not that much of a difference between blalock and davis to MAKE a difference
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So, your plan
is to substitute players who are playing crappy with OBPs under 300 for other players who are playing crappy.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those moves
Wouldn’t put this team above a .330 OBP and really you’re just grasping at straws here JUST so you can disparage JD and his roster assemblage. Hank is not the answer. Boggs is not the answer. TT might help, but he isn’t the answer. There is nobody on this team or in the minors, that is ready, that would help this team. This team has to help itself. And all of this hand-wringing of getting Hank more playing time is absolute horse-puckey.
You of all people should welcome playing Davis more. You who railed against the older signings made by JD because those signings blocked a young player. Why doesn’t that apply here with the Hank-Davis question?
The depths of your self aggrandizing hypocrisy really knows no bounds does it?
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on Jun 28, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hypoluxa
I advocate playing young players who aren’t drowning.
Also, winning and the chance of making the post-season alters everything at different levels.
Chris Davis, whose future I like, is drowning and hurting the team’s chances of winning.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Chris Davis
7 for his last 14 with 3 walks.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If
Chris Davis (.254 /.312/.465 OPS .776 for June) is drowing, what is Hank Blalock (.192/.271/.365 OPS .637 for June) doing?
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Waiving?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
already dead?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Playing young'un's
ALWAYS has this potential for said youngster to “drown” while they are learning the ropes. Davis is definitely in trouble, but is now FINALLY showing some signs of life. Would the lessons he is learning now be as poignant if he’d have been sent to OKC June 1st? Probably not, and really what exactly would he get out of a demotion? And what would the Rangers get out of the demotion? More Hack-tastic Hank? More grenade covering Andruw Jones? Both of those options suck in comparison to letting the youngster who IS a part of the long-term future play.
If we had Justin Smoak ready and raring to go then yes, I can see why sticking with Davis would be a detriment to the team’s overall success. OR if Hank didn’t have such a history of bad OBP and bad defense at 1B then I could see your point. But at this point there is not a better long-term option.
And the chance to make the playoffs doesn’t alter this thinking, the opportunity to lambast JD for something else alters it. Only, of course, when it suits your vindictive purposes.
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on Jun 28, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you really taking the "defend gil lebreton" position just to argue with JW
talk bout falling right into a trap.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 28, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's clearly the case
I’ve been arguing the exact opposite of what LeBreton says today, but because Josey says it is wrong, I’m saying LeBreton is right.
Good call. You’ve got me pegged.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Crush is "hitting" .157 v leftys this year.
Blalock should be the 1B when this team plays leftys.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:03 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Blalock is hitting .200 against LHP, so there’s a huge improvement. Give me Davis’ defense and the hope that he actually has the ability to turn his situation around.
by Black Francis on Jun 28, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Give Blalock 30 more plate appearances v leftys
and then let’s evaluate.
He’s obviously not doing well (nor is the offense) with him as a platoon player.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand
Why you give him the benefit of the doubt so much, except as a vehicle to criticize Washington.
by brettgardner on Jun 28, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
BG
How did Blalock do v. leftys last year?
Is Washington’s current line-up strategy working?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
He did very well in his 92 plate appearances.
But he’s still horrible for his career, and I can’t fathom why you would let an extremely small sample size shape your opinion rather than a significant amount of data that suggests he sucks.
by brettgardner on Jun 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock showed improvement v leftys last year, bg.
Also, Wash made it known that Blalock would be playing every day v leftys last year so he never had to look over his shoulder.
That’s not the case this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
So what was different about Davis last year, then?
by brettgardner on Jun 28, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He had yet to deal
with Smoak on his shoulder.
[Throws hands up]
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 28, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Davis was hitting out of his mind
and was therefore not a good tool to try to bludgeon Wash and Daniels with, that’s what.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 29, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Career numbers
Blalock’s OPS is .652. 905 ABs. So he probably is what he is against lefties.
Davis’ OPS is .746. 156 ABs. Dragged down by his .538 this year against lefties. .935 in 257 minor lg ABs.
Just saying..
by Michael Cave on Jun 28, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also,
Blalock has a .578 OPS against lefties this yr. So 40 pts above Davis.
by Michael Cave on Jun 28, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You pegged it, Josey
The offense isn’t doing well with Blalock as a platoon player.
So clearly, we need to play him every day against lefties, even though he hasn’t been able to hit lefties to save his life his entire career.
What insight you offer.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM
Davis is worse than Blalock v. leftys, correct?
The current line-up strategy is NOT working, correct?
Playing Blalock v. leftys is a better plan than playing Crush v. leftys.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what's weird
Is that Davis last year had a .916 OPS against lefties in 93 PA, which is almost exactly the same as Blalock last year, yet you give no weight to his fluke, and full weight to Blalock’s.
by brettgardner on Jun 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because Wash is a dumbass
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock has an edge in OPS against lefties of 40 points
I don’t think that is enough to justify playing Blalock every day against lefties.
He’s sucked against lefties over his career.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And is also worse defensively
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That OPS difference is also in a SSS
He’s about 2 bad games away from being right where Davis is.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM,
just look the above numbers. Admittedly, Im okay with Davis going down to OKC to get his head “right” but I also dont believe that Blalock is a better option especially considering Davis’ defensive value.
by Michael Cave on Jun 28, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wait 'til Josh comes back.
You know he will be DH’ing part time…and Hank plays even less. I am sure they are trying to move him, but no one will take him right now.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock will give all of you the finger today
as he’s 7-8 career vs Gaudin.
Does Zach Phillips have to choke a bitch to get to Frisco?
by sprite on Jun 28, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
The bestestes things I read this morning from EG:
Millwood, who pitched Friday night, was fourth in the league in ERA (2.64) after his six-inning, two-run outing on Friday. He was tied for sixth in wins (eight) and was the league leader in innings pitched.
Speaking of Millwood, he’s had the most dominant June of any Rangers pitcher in the Rangers Ballpark Era. Millwood, whose next start is Wednesday, July 1 against Los Angeles, compiled a 1.30 ERA for his five June starts. The previous record was Rick Helling at 2.56 in June 1998.
The Rangers have not lost a ninth inning lead this year, going 32-0 when holding a lead after eight. The Rangers lead the AL in save percentage (80.8) and have the fewest blown saves (five). They are second to Cincinnati (82.6 percent save conversions, four blown saves) in the majors in both categories.
Josh Hamilton ran the bases and slid hard – hard enough to tear a hole in his pants – during an afternoon workout. It’s still looking like Hamilton could begin a rehab assignment around the middle of the week and be in position to return when the Rangers go to Anaheim on July 6.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting bullpen stats
They have really improved since mid-April. Of course, geting rid of Rupe and Benson could only improve matters.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
32-0 is pretty stunning,
given that FX2 has been hurt almost half the season thus far, and everyone spazzes out when CJ pitches. That number tells me all I need to know, and the whiney CJ haters need to STFU.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
Josey Wales / Rodney agreeance.
CJ Haters need to suck on it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are there any remaining CJ haters at this point?
I haven’t seen anyone ranting and raving about CJ sucking in quite a while.
I think most everyone has jumped on board or is at least enjoying Good CJ.
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by WestTxAg06 on Jun 28, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just not that worried about this team yet
They’ve beat up on their division all season and the bats are looking to finally wake up. Josh Hamilton is about to be back and the Davis/Salty duo looks to start hitting now. Plus Kinsler is looking good again. The biggest thing I’m starting to worry about is Young at 3B. Man, he looked like crap there yesterday and I still can’t get over that easy grounder he let go right by him because he wouldn’t get in front of the ball.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 11:08 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Team OBP down .318
It’s time to worry or at least change up what their doing – if you wanna finish above .500.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, these guys are idiots
We need to change something right this second, you know right as the offense has started showing signs of life.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, it does look
like the June Swoon is almost gone. Hopefully the pitching and defense can hold while the hitting returns.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not worried about the pitching/defense staying strong as much as I'm worried about them being healthy
Harrison needs to get healthy on the DL this time around.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the June Swoon is almost gone
Because it’s almost July :)
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 28, 2009 1:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hank's OBP of .293 ranks 73rd among 78 AL qualifiers (Chris Davis was last at .270).
At least one is young and still learning…
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 11:12 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hank is smack in the middle of his prime.
Also, Hank took his obp from .270 to .301 in late May and then Wash started the heavy platoon.
Hank had something like 14 starts in the month of June.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"
by Josey Wales on Jun 28, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smack in the middle of his prime?
Good lord…
by N41D on Jun 28, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Started the heavy platoon?
Its called interleague play
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 28, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Clearly, Davis should have never played a single game during interleague play
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OT: Shamwow guy gets the last laugh
Billy Mays found dead.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jun 28, 2009 11:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
New blog tagline: "We All Miss The Shamwow Guy"?
He really didn’t time this very good, did he?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw him on Conan just this week
plugging this new show he’s on. Woops.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jun 28, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Billy Mays wasn't
the Shamwow guy. He was the competition with the bad beard.
The Shamwow guy is still alive, and hopefully planning his next hooker encounter.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you talkin bout the slap chopper guy....
vince.
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by ivysafety39 on Jun 28, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's missing part of his tongue from an incident with a whore, you know.
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 28, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Amazing
First Ed McMahon then Farrah Fawcett then the King of Pop now Billy Mays. What a week.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup Billy Mays ...50 yrs. old too
just like MJ and appeared to be healthy unlike MJ.
"You're going to love my nuts"
Vince from slap chop
by BigGuns on Jun 28, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Starting a new trifecta
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to be interested in hearing the coroner's report on this one.
Mays was involved in an airline mishap the day before. The plane blew a front tire and made a rather rough landing. Mays claimed he was alright but took a pretty good shot to the head from objects falling from the overhead.
by Redcaps on Jun 28, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh yikes that may be it..
like that skiing accident involving Liam Neeson’s wife.
"You're going to love my nuts"
Vince from slap chop
by BigGuns on Jun 28, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He also wasn't wearing his seatblet, as he was told to,
according to the press release the FAA already put out.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 12:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My goodness...
is JJT a beating. Who keeps telling this guy he should write another article about the Rangers? Isn’t it clear by now that he knows nothing about baseball?
I agree with LeBreton. Trading for Johnson solves nothing for this team.
Why the hell did Salty just keep putting down the old #1 in the second inning. I was yelling at the TV for something other than a fastball and I know I wasn’t the only one. When does it become an issue of the pitcher not only throwing fastballs, but that being all the catcher or pitching coach is calling? I’m assuming Holland isn’t calling his own game out there, and Salty was probably getting his signs from the bench. I know it’s probably not the popular thing to criticize Maddux aroung here, but my hell. Throw something besides a fastball. 5 straight hits on 9 pitches(?) in that second inning isn’t cool. He did a good job of mixing up his pitches later on in the game too.
I really wonder if it’s Holland that doesn’t have confidence in his offspeed stuff right now or if it’s Wash and Maddux that don’t have confidence in his offspeed stuff. Holland doesn’t seem like a kid who lacks confidence.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 28, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering
if they should pair Holland with Teagarden for a bit.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm all for Teagarden getting more playing time.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 28, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
People in the GDT were saying that Holland was shaking off Salty
Also, both catchers call their own games.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll have to go back...
and watch it again. I don’t remember seeing Holland shaking off Salty, but that’s possible.
Plus, if both catchers call their own games and Holland kept shaking off Salty then it’s Maddux’s job (or even Salty’s) to go out there and have a talk with him after the 2nd or 3rd hit in a row. Something should have been done sooner than it was. The first offspeed pitch of the game was a CB to start off Gwynn in his 2nd AB. That was after 5 straight hits on FB’s and the game was already 3-0.
Like I said, I don’t think Holland lacks confidence in his stuff. Perhaps it’s just over-confidence in his fastball. In which case he needs to be reminded that big league hitters who go up sitting on a fatsball will hit it hard most of the time. This isn’t AA, you can’t just blow the fastball by every hitter.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 28, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He shook off Salty many times.
And I also advocated Salty going out there and chewing his ass, but was told he would not do that to show up Dutch. All that said, I agree that Maddox should have paid a mound visit.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"but was told he would not do that to show up Dutch."
Holland has been shaking off the catch since he arrived in Arlington. Maybe that is what needs to be done to put the rookie in his place.
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by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well it's not like Saltalamacchia is...
…really a veteran or anything.
by Black Francis on Jun 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't blame Salty or Maddux too much
Holland shakes off the catcher quite a bit. He needs to start throwing whatever the catcher puts down.
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by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holland and Maddux have said that Holland is going to throw the fastball until opponents hit it.
Worked well in the first. Seemed like once the Padres batters started hitting it in the second, Holland and Saltalamacchia were slow to adjust. Might’ve been because Holland misplaced a couple pitches and they thought he could recover; might’ve been because they thought the first couple hits were flukes or unlucky hits off well-placed fastballs; might’ve been because they knew Holland was having trouble commanding his secondary stuff; might’ve been brainlock.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
his gameplan was obvious after the first inning
I think they wanted to go through the order once with primarily FBs and then start to mix in off speed pitches. Problem is that Holland got too much of the plate with his FB in the second inning and the Padres were ready for it.
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by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought this was standard practice
Use your FB, usually a starter’s best pitch, to get through the lineup the first time.
Then throw them everything under the sink for the rest of the way.
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- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think it varies from
team to team and pitcher to pitcher. You can’t be predictable in the MLs.
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by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I swear
I need to see that changeup that BA ranked #1 in the system last year. He threw like 2 or 3 the entire game last night, even though everybody knew the Dad’s were all sitting on the fastball. If he threw some changeups, he might have gotten like 20 swing and misses (instead of the 10 that he did get)
by Telegraph on Jun 28, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.
I haven’t seen anything that’s really explained his apparent unwillingness to throw it (last night or prior to it) ~ but apparently Holland was struggling with his off-speed stuff yesterday, so maybe that’s it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 2:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Since when has JJT ever shown a proficiency for writing about any topic other than the Cowboys?
Still amazed that when Belo had their big layoff several years ago, he got to keep his job while Kevin Blackistone lost his. I didn’t agree Blackistone on much of anything. But he’s 100 times the writer JJT is.
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by Brandon Bibb on Jun 28, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's shown proficiency writing about the Cowboys?
JJT just sucks overall. He’s worthless.
by Arson55 on Jun 28, 2009 3:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think they offered
some fairly nice severance packages and Blackistone elected to take it as he had only a few years with the Morning News.
by Jea103 on Jun 28, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Kevin also had something else lined up already
by the time decission day came down. Made perfect sense for him.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
New DH please.
LeBreton… Too many leaks, not enough thumbs. So what.
Put a plug in the biggest leak. Put your thumbs in as many others as you can.
Trade for Nick Johnson to plug the biggest leak. Feliz to the bullpen is one thumb. Hope for other internal thumbs to plug the holes.
In reality, the least costly move is to see if anyone will bite on Blalock, then after the ASB kick him off and bring up Smoak so long as Smoak hasn’t suddenly gone ice cold. If we’re lucky the Rangers can add Sheets.
But, if the get Johnson, they will have to worry a little less about being lucky.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 28, 2009 11:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree with
shopping Blalock hard when Smoak is ready, and if you can’t find a buyer, just cutting him loose. Blalock is barely a 1 dimensional player.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock for Sanchez
who says no? Keep in mind Sanchez was just demoted to the bullpen in ’Frisco
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jun 28, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants say no
No question about that.
if they want to part with Sanchez, they can get something better than Blalock.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jun 28, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blalock/Vallejo for Sanchez?
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doubt it...
maybe if the Rangers ate Blalock’s salary.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 28, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think I would do that deal though
I think the Giants would have to think about that trade.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why go after Sanchez?
He’s overvalued due to his age, left-handedness and velocity, but has no control whatsoever. His BB/9 is in the 6’s this year.
by LiamP on Jun 28, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you expect to get
for Blalock? Something good?
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 28, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where'd you get that from?
You offer Blalock for Sanchez and the Giants laugh at you. You add more to the deal and eventually you’re overpaying for a guy who’s never been able to find the strike zone.
Sanchez’s stuff is fucking seducing as hell but he’s actually managed to diminish his control this year.
by LiamP on Jun 28, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is only 26
I would still take my chance with him with Maddox here.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
id take my chances
on a 26 year old with his stuff
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This isn't a question of whether or not you want him or not.
Of course you’d like to have a guy like Sanchez. It’s about how much you’d need to offer to get him. They just moved him to the pen, but it’s pretty likely that they still value him highly.
The Giants probably have little to no interest in Blalock. He’s an FA after this year and the Giants aren’t deluded enough to think they’re contenders. If they do, I doubt even Sabean’s retarded enough to go after Blalock as any type of solution.
What grouping of prospects would you give up?
by LiamP on Jun 28, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He showed a lot of promise to end last year
and this is Blalock we’re talking about.
I’m a white boy who doesn’t think a black man is good enough to manage my baseball team.-Lonestarjon
by AirJordan on Jun 28, 2009 12:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
giants
say no — even with sanchez low value right now
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Giants say no
He still has talent
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay
The Washington Nationals trade Texas Johnson, and agree to pay his remaining salary for the season (which is a precondition of any deal right now).
What do you think the Rangers have to part with?
And then what do you do with Blalock and Jones? Platoon them at 1B and send Davis down? Release Blalock and make Jones a bench player?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And then what...
do you do when Johnson makes his usual trip to the DL?
The guy can’t stay healty, he doesn’t plug any leaks. I don’t understand all the Nick Johnson love around here.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a case of the other guy's Johnson, and all that...
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Johnson hasn't been able to DH in 6 years.
Counting the 2002 season with the Yanks during which he primarily played 1B.
You could’ve said the same thing about Milton Bradley and he turned out to be totally fucking worth it, even with his semi-frequent injuries.
by LiamP on Jun 28, 2009 12:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
All Bradley cost was money.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True, but I don't think Johnson's price is as high as people think it is.
It’s definitely not Feliz or Holland like the guy below thinks. DeRosa is perceived to be more valuable than Johnson (due to his ability to play a billion different positions, thought not particularly well at any of them) and Feliz/Holland are on an entirely different stratosphere than Perez.
by LiamP on Jun 28, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well I was being a bit facetious below
because I am surprised at what Cleveland got for DeRosa.
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by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Whether Johnson would cost Feliz or Holland (or Perez) is a moot point;
I can’t imagine the Rangers would ever agree to a deal like that.
I’m just not sure that I’d want the Rangers to pay what it would cost the club, given the potential risk and return. I never had such doubts about the Bradley deal, which is simply not a good comp.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, agree to disagree here.
I’m just not sure that I’d want the Rangers to pay what it would cost the club, given the potential risk and return.
I’d be fine with it if it was a Kiker/Poveda level prospect and filler.
by LiamP on Jun 28, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
After seeing what Cleveland just got for DeRosa
Washington would want Feliz or Holland
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by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
dero
differences is that he can play multiple positions and has been pretty damn healthy
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cut Blalock.
Jones can spell a guy. Yes. Make him a bench player.
I’m not sure what it would take.
A couple of bookend deals to get a range of possibilities might be the Carlos Lee trade a few years back and the recent DeRosa trade.
So, Nationals give Rangers Nick Johnson and a young upside guy — Paul Demney — and cover Johnson’s salary.
Rangers offer includes players from the following pools:
Max Ramirez, Tommy Hunter (a near ML guy with moderate upside)
Engel Beltre, Greg Golson (toolsy OF)
Vallejo, Arias, Lemon (MIF)
I think that package is much better than the DeRosa deal, not quite what the Carlos Lee deal was (unless they choose MaxRam over Hunter).
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 28, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well
Hunter and Ramirez are vastly different in terms of value.
Ditto Beltre and Golson
Ditto vallejo, Arias and Lemon.
Hunter + Golson + Arias gets you nothing.
Ramirez + Beltre + Vallejo is a strong package.
I wouldn’t give up that much for Johnson, and I don’t know that Washington would kick in someone like Demney to get that deal done.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know what Hunter's value is to them.
They have a recent history of trying to build the rotation from within. He might have a little more value than it might appear.
Alot of their recent trades have involved near ML-ready guys. Under that thinking, Ramirez + Hunter + Vallejo seems like a package they might like.
That’s giving up a lot. I still think Ramirez has at least one .300/.400/.600 season in him at some point in his ML career. If he hadn’t had a wrist injury and had stunted preparation due to WBC, I think it’s very likely I’d argue for Ramirez to be the DH and to cut Blalock. That’s not the case, so his value is best used this year to get Johnson, if the Nationals like Ramirez.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 28, 2009 1:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rangers offer includes players from the following pools:
Max Ramirez, Tommy Hunter (a near ML guy with moderate upside)
Engel Beltre, Greg Golson (toolsy OF)
Vallejo, Arias, Lemon (MIF)
Hilarious how all the prospect-lovers around here think Johnson can be had with this grab-bag of blah
by oc on Jun 28, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice quote work there
While the worst package isn’t close, if you think Max+Beltre+Vallejo for Nick Johnson is “laughable”…… thats insane. He WILL be traded, and noone will give a package that makes that look laughable.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 1:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Surprise!.. I disagree
I don’t think that Ramirez/Beltre/Vallejo will get you Johnson now, and I certainly don’t think it will get you him later when there are other teams bidding for his services
There are teams that can trump that offer wizard… One superior ‘ready’ player is more attractive to them right now than that current trio
by oc on Jun 28, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shit
That right there is why ill be pissed if the rangers trade for johnson
that is way too much for us to give up
i almost hope we make that deal just so i can tell people in a few years how fucking stupid they are
we make fun of atlanta all the time and now some of the same jackasses want us to give up some big time prospects to get a 3 month rental
good lord
by Horns130 on Jun 28, 2009 8:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson
I don’t have a good feel at all for what it would take to get him.
If you could get him for a reasonable price, I would try to just give Blalock to the Giants (and I think would probably give you a bucket of balls for him since its only half a year of his salary), then you could take on Johnson’s salary without increasing the payroll.
I’d then DH Johnson to try to keep him healthy, and keep Davis at 1B for a while longer. If I’m still in the race in August and Davis still isn’t hitting, then look swap him out with Smoak.
But that all depends on what it takes to get Johnson….
by Darrell McKown on Jun 28, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This whole Blalock vs Davis vs lefties....
Reminds me of the line in “Gone in 60 secs” where Nicolas Cage is asked, “Where do you want it, in the head or in the chest?”
by Redcaps on Jun 28, 2009 12:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why the night game on a Sunday?
Any reasons?
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by PM Productions on Jun 28, 2009 12:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
because it is hot in arlington in the summer
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 28, 2009 12:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This
Because of the Texas weather, the Rangers get an exemption from the ESPN monopoly on the Sunday night window.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
by WestTxAg06 on Jun 28, 2009 12:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I feel like I've read something about this recently.
It’s almost as if there’s already a whole exchange about it in this thread.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks scoop!
j/k…scroll up
"If you want to pitch numbers, go pitch at Petco. It’s as simple as that. Come here if you want to win." - Mike Maddux
by Panorama on Jun 28, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad...
didn’t see it posted already.
Sorry
by cmkelly29 on Jun 28, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No worries. Just bustin' your balls a bit.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
by Snark on Jun 28, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if i post an OT thread for the soccer game anyone interested?
also grosse pointe blank is on TV now
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:46 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
havent ever actually watched it end to end
ive seen all of it a couple of times, but never all at one time
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's really funny
…and ridiculously violent at times.
by Black Francis on Jun 28, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its an awesome movie
one of cusak’s best
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 28, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would agree
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He does too
I read somewhere that he rates it very highly among the films he’s done. He may have even put it second behind only High Fidelity, although it seems like there was another in between them.
by Black Francis on Jun 28, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bing, Bing, Bing! Popcorn!
great, great movie
What's the rumpus?
by Hypo-Luxa on Jun 28, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do it
First time the US has been in a FIFA tournament final
by Slick-ish24 on Jun 28, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Question:
Who is this team’s DH next year?
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 28, 2009 12:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Max or CD
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 28, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Smoak and CD platoon
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 28, 2009 1:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tommy Hanson pitching on TBS.
The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...
by Kinslerhomer on Jun 28, 2009 1:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
btw
Kiker is pitching for Frisco tonight on CH. 21, 6:00pm.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 1:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sweeeet.
"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem
by Chase Irwin on Jun 28, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bollucks!
Hall of Fame pitcher Nolan Ryan was on the same pitching staff with Danny Darwin during the 1986 through 1988 seasons. Both were described by Milo Hamilton as "tall, tough Texans." It was a source of debate amongst Astros players and fans over who would win in a fight, Ryan or Darwin. Though Astros pitcher Bob Knepper attempted to set up a fight between the two during spring training in 1988, manager Hal Lanier stopped it before it could commence. Many experts, including Astros shortstop Rafael Ramirez, felt that Darwin would win because he "looked like someone no man would want to mess with."
by gossamer on Jun 28, 2009 1:32 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
GO D-BACKS!!!!!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 3:27 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
2-0, good
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 3:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sherzer is dealing today.
Come on boys, pad that lead :p
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
freakin diamondbacks
allowing 4 for 50 gary matthews jr. to get a 3 rbi double. 3b looked like MY over there.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
lol now he steals home
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just noticed that....F.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's why I hate the Angels so much
No matter how crappy they are, they always manage to get that timely hit.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Some of my friends wonder how I can hate the Angels more than the Mariners.
That is why. Bunch of aging hitters coupled with timely hits and solid pitching. Boring to watch, not fun to cheer for, not really even likable. Couple that with an SB blogger like the Rev, who isn’t clever in the least bit, and you have the Angels.
In short, Fuck the Angels.
"Look out, Itchy! He’s Irish!"
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by Maximilian on Jun 28, 2009 4:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
my god reynolds sucks defensively
He made some bad plays vs us and just now he straight up missed a throw to first that was right at the middle of his chest. it was sad.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 4:26 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
What did you expect?
It’s the D-Backs!!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
4 fucking errors already by the D-Backs.
Pathetic.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Angels Baseball.
"Look out, Itchy! He’s Irish!"
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by Maximilian on Jun 28, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sad thing is that Hunter is on the bench!!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 4:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 errors in 4 chances
that really is pathetic.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well so much for thinking we'd get any help today!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 4:31 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Prospectus Q&A Rudy Jaramillo
For members only, could be a good read.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not a member....
can you copy and paste?
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's kinda illegal,
and I don’t have a membership currently.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then how did you read it?
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 4:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He said "could" be a good read
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 28, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kind of like speeding up to make the yellow light
You know you shouldn’t but you do it any way.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 28, 2009 4:45 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
THE COMEBACK IS ON!
9-8 Angles, bottom 6th.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 5:10 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Hoping Scioscia leaves Jepsen in!!
It won’t happen, but still, it would be nice.
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 5:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Zavada in for the D-Backs.
Future closer, badass.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was he a recent call up?
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 5:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bulger in for Jepsen
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lineup:
2B Ian Kinsler
LF David Murphy
3B Michael Young
RF Andruw Jones
DH Hank Blalock
CF Marlon Byrd
C Jarrod Saltalamacchia
1B Chris Davis
SS Elvis Andrus
Poor Salty…12 innings caught, arrive in Arlington at 6am, then catch 3 straight days in 100+ degree heat. Sucks to be him, TeaBag must be really sick.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 5:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I just hope that last night was just a by-product of thursday night
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's my hope too
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 28, 2009 5:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cruz sitting again tonight.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 28, 2009 5:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eh, he needs a break.
Oh yeah, fuck Jon Rauch…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 28, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Add Tony Pena to that!!!
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 6:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
C'mon D'Backs!
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by baseballismyboyfriend on Jun 28, 2009 5:45 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Keepin' the Faith
In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT
by awillis111 on Jun 28, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
Ron Washington says that his secondary stuff was better in San Francisco, and because he could throw his secondary pitches for strikes, the Giants couldn’t sit on his fastball, like the Padres did.
Ron and I finally agree on something.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball."
-Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 28, 2009 11:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
chris david
You say the Rangers have got nothing so far from Chris Davis. But I read an article by a sportswriter at electro-mech, a baseball scorebard maker, that says he has hit over 19 HRs so far this season. I woulldnt’ say that’s nothing.
- Bud
by bud59 on Jun 29, 2009 11:48 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
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