Rangers offense slumping at a historic level
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 29, 2009 10:30 AM CDT
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PrintGoing into last night's game, the Rangers' team OPS for the month of June was 668. I think it is safe to say it dropped a few points last night.
The last time the Ranger offense was this bad in a calendar month was September/October, 1992. That team had Nolan Ryan, Kevin Brown, and Jose Guzman in the rotation, Kenny Rogers, Terry Matthews, Floyd Bannister, and Todd Burns in the bullpen, Dickie Thon at shortstop, Brian Downing at DH, and and people named Russ McGinnis, Doug Davis (the catcher, not the pitcher) and Ray Stephens (the baseball player, not the singer) getting ABs.
This is absurd.
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I thought it was horrible
when the offense came out of the chute at 704 in March April.
Its just disgusting how many sub 300 OBP guys this team has in June.
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Time to make some changes.
I like Cahill’s idea of putting Hank on waivers.
Release AJ.
Bring up Borbon and play him in center field and have him leadoff 5 days per week, spelling him with Byrd. Bring up MaxRam or Smoak and make sure they are in the lineup somewhere at least 5 days per week.
That may not fix the problems, but it can’t really make them any worse.
Oh, and under no circumstances make any trades for short term solutions … especially for guys named Josh Willingham.
I hate bringing up MaxRam
maybe when he stops sucking at AAA he will be worth calling up. He hasn’t hit squat at AAA, either last year or this year. I have no desire to call up anyone who isn’t on fire in the minors.
I’d keep AJ, and have him ride the pine most of the time.
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i think if you call him up you have to give him ABs and i just dont see where those ABs are going to come from
UNLESS they dump andruw and give maxram his DH at bats and maybe murphy/byrd his OF ABs
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by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions
I'd rather
dump Blalock and give Max his ABs. AJ doesn’t whine as much about not being played.
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Yep, and if Max hits, if would be a good avenue
to be able to trade him for value
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Honestly, I'd rather keep him around
and hope CD can hit enough to raise his value, then flip CD.
While CD was a 300/350/600 guy in the minors, and Maxram was more of a 300/400/500 guy, I’d rather have the OBP. I also think that Smoak will do a good job at 1B.
CDs style is going to be more boom and bust, and I don’t think longterm he is going to be the guy to hang on to.
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I'd rather have CD, but I wouldn't be against this
if Max could actually show me enough to warrant him hitting in the DH spot at the ML level.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
None of those guys are ready.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions
Yep
the problem with getting help from the farm is there aren’t any guys looking like you can plug them in and expect an upgrade.
Sadly, riding it out may be the only option.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Smoak is definitely an upgrade over Davis
At this point, no one has named a negative of calling up Smoak. Something needs to be done – there is no reason to stand pat.
by Mark from OC on Jun 29, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions
Smoak negative
can’t hit LHP. At least not yet.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
And Davis is a sure strikeout at least once a game.
It won’t hurt the team to make the change. Something needs to be done. I say it is worth a try.
by Mark from OC on Jun 29, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Davis can't hit righties or lefties consistently
so Smoak may be an upgrade. I have no idea, but I am not against trying.
smoak is not an upgrade
before last night davis had started to look like he was getting out the slump. He hit to hard line drives, one carried into the cf’s glove the other the cf had to make a dive to catch it… and defensively i wouldn’t trust smoak at first more than davis.
this is continuous knee-jerkism caused by a team wide slump… ride it out hammy is gonna be back in less than a week.
CD is also
7-for-16 (.438) as a number 8 hitter in the last 15 days.
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by Walter Sobchak on Jun 29, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Would this be the same Chris Davis...
that every was crucifying Wash for batting so low in the lineup last year? You know, the one who was being ‘broken in gently’ by Wash, even though he was clearly ready to handle anything.
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I didn't say he couldn't hit right now
I said he can’t hit consistently. He is in the middle of a good stretch right now, but he has easily been the most disappointing player on the team this year. He still is not hitting fastballs and as soon as he starts seeing them again, I think he goes back into his slump. I hope he has pulled out of it, but the fact he is hitting hanging changeups the last few games does nothing to instill confidence in me.
If Blalock got claimed
I’d probably call up Steve German and make him DH. Unfortunately, I can’t imagine a team in baseball being dumb enough to claim Blalock.
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On what basis?
Borbon is getting on base at a good clip in AAA. If the concern is patience, he can work on that in Arlington just as easily as he can in Oklahoma. He hits well enough to be in Arlington.
Smoak is pretty well owning AA and is proving himself to be a patient hitter that draws a ton of walks. I seriously doubt he would be overwhelmed by big league pitching at this point.
I can understand the argument that MaxRam isn’t ready, but the other two don’t really have any glaring shortcomings that indicate they’ll be flops in Arlington.
Smoak just doesn't have enough PAs to make me feel comfortable about bringing him up now
Borbon hasn’t been able to hit for any type of power this year and that is a pretty major shortcoming.
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Right now
this team needs good OBP guys more than power guys.
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Right now, this team needs good hitters
which includes OBP and power.
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Borbon isn't a power hitter
Hes hit two HRs this week however. But his weapon is his speed. Whether he hits doubles or singles and then steals second base its the same thing really. He puts the ball in play and would probably be a nice shot in the arm to this lineup
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I understand your points.
We don’t need Borbon to hit for power. We need him to get on base and steal bases. He’s doing that very well. If he’s ever going to hit for any power, it will develop wherever he’s playing.
Smoak is going to be a very good ML player. I doubt there is anybody that doesn’t believe he’ll be on the big club roster in 2010. His fundamentals are good enough that I think they can afford to give him a shot to work out the rookie kinks this summer. And he’s a guy that works counts, draws walks, strikes out rarely, and can drive the baseball.
This offense needs high OBP guys in the worst possible way. It really can’t hurt to give them a shot.
I have been pleasantly surprised by Borbon's eye this year
24 walks so far. 366 obp is pretty respectable. But I disagree w/ your assertion that he can work on his eye just as well here as in AAA. He really needed to fine tune his approach, and he’s on the path to doing so, but I’d give him at least another 6 weeks. What would be an acceptable MLB OPS in your mind for him? B/c he looks like he’d be hovering around 7 if called up now. If your argument is for it helping his long term development, then I can see that, but if it is primarily to help the club right now, I don’t think he’d be a net positive.
Smoak, as mentioned above, is currently a platoon hitter w/ only a scintilla of pro ABs. Again, more time.
My homeboy Max is just getting well and in need of 200 healthy, successful ABs.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions
Agree wholeheartedly
Borbon is having an encouraging season, but no reason to hurry him up to the ML level just yet. I think a .700 OPS is a reasonable expectation even if he’s given another two months in the minors.
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The biggest reason I agree with Borbon called up
is to keep Josh out of CF when he returns. But additionally, because we’re sliding so fast now, and can’t wait any longer, he’s already on the 40 man, can bring game-changing speed (even more-so than Andrus) on the basepaths, will get Kinsler out of the leadoff spot and into a more traditional run producing spot, and he can provide stellar defensive range. Plus, he’ll get better practice for the ML by hitting against ML pitchers than he will in AAA. I don’t think he’s got as much preparation as he could, but I think it’s time.
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by Walter Sobchak on Jun 29, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
For me, the question is the goal of calling Borbon up.
Expect him to help the team as a lead-off guy? I’m very skeptical.
Expect him to get some good developmental experience? That could happen, but why make the move now?
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Keeping Hamilton out of CF
That is not a good enough reason to call up Borbon right now.
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"game-changing speed"
This isn’t football.
No such animal exists in baseball, at least since Rickey “I’m so badass I talk about myself in 3rd person” henderson retired. And even his “game-changing speed” was only that b/c of a 400 OBP.
And if you want to keep Josh out of center, play Byrd there.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions
What else could Borbon prove in six more weeks at AAA?
This is what I don’t get. What will bringing him up now do to cripple his development?
I think a low OPS from Borbon would be fine, so long as his OBP is around .350. If he puts up those numbers, he’s both helping the club now and he’s helping his own development for 2010.
I can see your argument on Smoak, but again, how much more time does he need? What is going to happen over the next few weeks or months to magically transform him into a ML hitter at the minor levels? The question is whether he will be significantly overmatched by ML pitching. I don’t think he would be. He’ll have growing pains for certain, but every new ML player does.
A .350 OBP from Borbon, from the get-go?
I think that’s expecting an awful lot. I don’t think it would “cripple his development” to bring him up now, but if the question is helping the 2009 team…
And Borbon’s .380 SLG suggests he could use some more time at AAA, doesn’t it?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Not really.
He’s not a slugging hitter. He’s an OBP guy with speed.
I'm not looking for him to turn into a slugger with fence-clearing power.
But without showing more ability to get XBH ~ even if it’s just doubles and triples ~ Borbon’s going to have a hard time posting the sort of OBP you’re talking about. Hell, he’d probably struggle to post a .350 OBP right away even if he does start racking up more XBH.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Obviously, it doesn't affect OBP directly.
But his ability to get XBH does change the way in which pitchers have to approach him ~ and that should lead to an easier time getting on base, which…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Stop reading my mind
Get out of my head, you!
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
If he shows more power, he'll be pitched to more carefully, which hopefully adds to his walk total
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Meh.
The kid hits for a high average. If they throw him more strikes because he’s not going to hit more doubles and triples, I don’t see why that would lower his OBP. By your logic, he’ll have better pitches to hit which should lead to more singles and more stolen bases.
These aren't more pitches down the middle
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He doesn't walk much anyhow, and if he can't hurt a pitcher
with extra bases, MLB pitchers are going to be able to throw the pitches they want to throw.
And his BA is .300 at AAA right now ~ what are you expecting him to do in the majors?
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Well now your backstepping on your original argument. They are either going to pitch him hard or they are not because they aren’t scared of him. If he has more XBH and they throw him more balls, then your hope is that he walks more. But you’re saying that because he doesn’t get many XBH, they’ll throw him more strikes. The guy doesn’t strike out much. He obviously makes very good contact. So if they throw him more strikes, he should be able to make more contact, and every ball a batter makes contact with has a chance to lead to a hit—especially if the guy has great speed.
But I guess since they’re really going to be throwing him more super secret awesome unhittable strikes instead of regular strikes, then that blows my argument out of the water.
I expect Borbon to be a .300 or better hitter in the bigs. Probably not right away, but over the course of his career I’m comfortable with that prediction.
You're being ridiculous.
Not all strikes are equal. There are pitcher’s pitches. You know this.
If all you’ve got left in the bag is scarecrowing about “super-secret awesome unhittable strikes,” then we’re done here.
And we’ve never been talking about anything “over the course of [Borbon’s] career,” so…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Nobody’s scarecrowing (whatever the hell that means). A pitch is either a strike or it isn’t. If pitchers could throw unhittable strikes every pitch, they would. Nobody has that talent. So assuming that Borbon will be thrown more and better strikes because he doesn’t get more doubles or triples seems unrealistic.
Does the guy make good contact? Does he strike out rarely? I think you have to answer yes to both those questions if you’re being intellectually honest. You’ll see a drop-off in productivity when he gets to the majors since he, like every other rookie, will have growing pains. Would you rather him go through that now or in 2010? Liam’s reference to Ellsbury is very instructive. They are remarkably similar players.
If Borbon helps this year, that’s great (and I am not as convinced as you are that he can’t), but ultimately the goal is win in 2010, and letting him finish his development with a half season in the bigs would seem to make some sense when thinking about the long term.
I agree with the argument for 2010.
And I certainly agree about Borbon’s contact and K rates. I’ve never said differently.
I don’t agree that MLB pitchers won’t be able to game-plan Borbon if he doesn’t show the ability to get XBH, and “scarecrowing” is my shorthand for setting up straw-man arguments like “If pitchers could throw unhittable strikes every pitch, they would.” Nobody’s argued they could, but you seem quite attached to the idea.
And as I said below, I think Ellsbury’s an interesting comp.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Heh.
Well, now that I’ve convinced JD, let’s hope I’m right and the kid’s ready.
And if he breaks in like Ellsbury did, he’ll definitely help the team this season.
Yup.
I hope you’re right, too (and will certainly say so if you are).
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Oh, and:
Could you pass on JD’s number or email address?
You’ve obviously been working him over on the Borbon angle, and I’ve got a couple ideas for trades I want to float by him…
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Sure. But I'd have to clear them first.
Don’t want to lose my cred with brass.
Pitchers comfortable throwing strikes...
Pitchers nibble at batters that they’re afraid of — they try to get the borderline strikes (difficult to hit solidly) or to get the batter to chase
Pitchers go after batters that they’re not afraid of — throwing more strikes, more regularly.
In order to regularly throw more strikes, they can’t be aiming at the very edges, but rather somewhat in from the edges.
That directly implies pitches that are closer to the middle of the zone than those pitches thrown to a batter they are scared of.
Now, the backup argument to that is that these pitchers would also be more comfortable throwing different pitches (not just fastballs) in the zone with less fear of a mistake being taken out of the park, or even doubled on — which could lead to Borbon having issue with contact on higher-quality breaking pitches.
I tend to think his AVG would go up with his OBP coming down in this scenario due to fewer walks and more contact, but I could see the other end where his K rate goes up due to issues with breaking pitches in the zone.
I was thinking more along the lines
of your next-to-last paragraph, but I wouldn’t call it a “backup argument.”
I’d expect to see pitchers comfortable throwing their preferred pitches (and sequences) in the zone against Borbon unless/until he forces them not to.
I don’t expect him to strike out a ton more, but I’m not as optimistic as other folks about his OBP…
Again, I hope I’m wrong.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Check out Jacoby Ellsbury's career numbers
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
I can see Borbon
heading that general direction.
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Well until MY gets through with him
and gives him his “Walks are for Suckers” speech. Remember, the team doesn’t need patience, just more energy.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
heh
Michael “walks are for suckers” Young.
I like that one better than Franchise Face.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions
Dammit Cahill.
Just when I start to get the warm fuzzy vibes from you, you have to go and take a shot at my boy.
Whatever you do—if you have any soul or sense of common decency— please don’t bring up his defense.
Well, I've eaten recently
so that pretty much rules out any defense comments unless I want to lose my lunch.
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Most guys see a 10 to 15% dropoff in their offensive numbers when first called up.
I think expecting a .350 obp is EXTREMELY optimistic, especially givven the fact that he doesn’t have the power to make big league pitchers tentative.
What would be the minimum OBP you’d find acceptable?
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions
I don’t know that I would set a minimum. If you bring a kid up, telling them “if you can’t do at least x,y.z, you’re out of here” is probably not the best way to instill confidence. Bring him up and see how he does. If his numbers after a month are really horrendous, you send him back down. If they are less than you’d like to see, you stick with him and let him work it out.
And even if he sees a 10% decline in his OBP, he’ll still be one of the highest OBP guys on the team—with the added bonus that he can run well and play great defense.
and he's more important on base than other guys
Brian may not agree that he’s got game changing speed, but that’s exactly what you have when you can nab 50+ steals in a year. a single becomes a very good chance that he ends up on 2nd or 3rd, which takes a sacrifice or two or another single to score. and you’re making the pitcher work to keep you on 1st, creating chances for errors, etc.
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by Walter Sobchak on Jun 29, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
Byrd as a baseline
Byrd has a .310 OBP — far below career norms, but also hacking at the plate far above career norms.
I think Borbon could go .320 OBP and provide better D than Byrd, and better speed on the paths.
In the same vein though, Borbon should bat 8th (not leadup), and everyone should shift down a spot with Blalock (5), Salty/Davis (6), Davis/Salty (7) leading up to Borbon/Andrus/Kinsler. With the frequency that Borbon would start innings, he’d be the 2nd leadoff batter and Kinsler would be 3 in that order.
Additionally, OBP > SLG. It is possible for a .700 OPS to provide more to a team than a .800 OPS given a significantly higher OBP for the .700 batter than for the .800 batter (see Blalock, Hank for an example).
I agree with all that
OBP is definitely >> SLG. And I think 320 is about what you could reasonably expect from JB right now.
i’m also inclined to believe Byrd picks it up some sooner rather than later. I just think the net gain Borbon would add to the current offense is negligible, and likely would not be as beneficial to his long term development as spending a little more time in AAA.
What effect do you think a callup right now would have on his development?
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
OBP > SLG, but usually the ratio stipulated is 3:1, SLG:OBP.
So would a guy hitting .270/.320/.380 really be worth more than a guy hitting .276/.310/.430?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Offensively?
No.
Total package? I think yes.
I’d consider Byrd about average in CF.
I’d expect Borbon to put up +5-8 runs in CF over the rest of the season, which I think would overcome the comparable offense.
If you consider the possible upgrade in defense in LF, then it could be an even larger boost.
I was only posting about offense.
I completely agree about Borbon, Byrd, and defense.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Exactly
Borbon is never gonna be a high OPS guy because his SLG will never be that high. If he gives us a .350 OBP then a OPS around 700 is to be expected.
And I am fine with his walk totals as long as he maintains his ridiculously low K numbers. As I have said many times before I don’t mind guys swinging early in the count if its at a good pitch to swing at. Borbon seems to be able to do that and put it into play and use his speed to his advantage.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
I haven't seen Borbon in person
But he doesn’t strike me as a guy who just hacks away. His “lack of power” seems to allow him to get more pitches to hit as pitchers aren’t afraid of him hitting the long ball on them. Who knows why that lack of power is there. Maybe his swing isn’t conducive to alot of high fly balls and line drives. But whatever he does he has found a way to get on base at a very good rate in the minors thus far and i don’t think there is any reason to expect that to not translate to the majors.
I don’t know the stats on this but I would guess guys with Borbons profile have alot easier transition to the majors than power hitters because ML pitchers are able to keep the ball out of power hitters zones alot more than slap hitters zones. And if ML pitchers want to try and get Borbon to chase he strikes me as the type of guy who will wait and draw the walk if thats what the pitcher wants to give him.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
So because he hasn't struck out much in the past, he'll continue
to not strike out much ~ but he’ll start drawing walks at a decent clip, even though he never has?
As LiamP pointed out, Ellsbury’s an interesting comp, though his minor-league numbers are generally better than Borbon’s.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
I think
Its like Ichiro. He doesn’t walk much but he also doesn’t strike out much. Granted i only really see Ichiro when the Rangers play the Ms but we always pitch very carefully to Ichiro even though he isn’t a major threat to take us deep. Based on Borbons increased walks this year and in FIL where he was basically told to work on that aspect if teams start pitching him like that he will start drawing more walks. Its not gonna happen overnight but in a few years yes I think he could have decent walk numbers to go along with a pretty high average
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Suzuki's lifetime SLG is .434
and, again, we were talking about this year, not Borbon’s entire career (or so I thought).
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Not sure what the solution is but,
It sure would appease me if we got the most interesting man in the world to be the new hitting coach and oust Rudy.“I may not always swing for the fences, but when I do, I go gap to gap”. I just don’t understand all the Rudy love. Maybe someone can enlighten me, I just don’t get it.
He can also...
Speak French…..in German.
by death of the cool on Jun 29, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions
You just wanted to have a post with a Dickie Thon reference
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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Who doesn't look for valid reasons to interject Dickie Thon references into their day?
I like to think that, at least for someone my age, I remember quite a bit about the early 90’s Rangers and some of the more obscure members of those rosters. However, I have no memory of Russ McGinnis and Ray Stephens.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
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An endangered species, it would seem.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
Ray Stevens
I think it’s safe to say this team is hitting like the singer, not the ball player.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
used to live real close to him (property butted up to his property)
lets just say that ole Ray (and friends) liked to have a little bit to drink and go hunting
…guy lived probably 3-4 miles away from us and there were times that you thought WW III was going on at 2 AM in the morning
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Did you ever hear
Anyone yelling, “Don’t look, Ethel?”
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
lol
nope
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
property butted
you probably aren’t kidding when you’re talking about the guy who sang “the Streak”.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
3rd place mother effen Texas Rangers???
Probably by Wednesday unfortunately. I love Josh and will love when he is back in the lineup, but he isn’t going to single handedly fix that 8 other guys basically have horrible approaches at the plate every single night.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
amazing.....
and what might I ask is so wonderful about JHam’s approach at the plate this year? He should be lumped into the same group as the “8 other guys”.
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jun 29, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
His approach has been terrible also, but he seemed to be more patient
before he hit the DL. Plus, at least on some level opposing pitchers are going to have a little more respect for him than Blalock/Jones hitting 3rd.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
yeah
it’s more about his presence in the lineup. a pitcher has to be careful with Hamilton, and Hamilton was hitting the ball hard ever since he went to he old batting style. “GOOD ONE THERE, RUDY JERKOFF”
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I'm hoping Hamilton can be the spark this offense needs
He’s the only guy good enough who could do it for this lineup now.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
You never know.
Baseball is a weird sport when it comes to the mental aspects of the game. Some things give players confidence while others seem to take it away. They’ve hit much better with Hambone in the lineup than they have when he’s not in the lineup. We’ll just have to see.
The M's offense is just as bad as ours
And unlike ours, it’s not just because it’s mired in a deep slump.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
Blame the GM
Why is everyone afraid of putting the blame where it should go. That would be on the head of good old JD, the worst GM in baseball. He hired a manager that couldnt get a job managing any other team in baseball. I know everyone brags about the farm system, but where is it when you need help, its always 3 or 4 years away. Thats how JD fleeces everyone on the Rangers, JD is nothing but a con man. Most true fans know we need 3 changes to get this right, a new owner, a new GM, and most of all a new manager.
LOL
Where were you when the Rangers were in first?
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
trolling somewhere else?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Probably so John
He just discovered LSB and thought what the hell. Post and run.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
of course lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions
Snore.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
lol
JD = the worst GM in baseball and yet you state, “and most of all a new manager”. Shouldn’t we fire Donuts 1st and then let the new GM hire a mgr?
Adam Lambert is indeed a rock god,so suck it.
by red shoe ranger on Jun 29, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions
but NOLAN was a RW man!
so do we need a new president too?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions
Anyone else find it hilariously ironic
That this guy has named his UID after Mark Teixeira?
by JimBonnick84 on Jun 29, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions
I think he means username
Or user ID.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
This is hilarious
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
He really should go back to the DMN blog.
I am sure Habib misses him dearly. In fact, I think they might be closer than some guys…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
sadly
i’m sure there is still a good amount of people out there that think this is because the pitching is failing.
And over half of them probably work for ESPN or the MLB network.
Get on base or die, Salty.
"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington
These numbers are kinda telling...
BABIP
March/April- .306
May- .313
June- .261
LD%
March/April- 19.6%
May- 19.9%
June- 18.2%
Last 3 years
2008 .329 BABIP and a 22.1% LD%
2007 .309 BABIP and a 19.1% LD%
2006 .314 BABIP and a 20.0% LD%
It seems not to be a direct byproduct of Hamilton being out but more a huge team wide slump. The team’s LD% is fairly close to their historic rate and yet their BABIP is EXTREMELY low for the month of June. Thankfully their has not been a team that has held a BABIP under .281 for a season since fangraphs started doing BABIP data. It is highly unlikely the .261 for June will continue. Even if the BABIP trends up to around .290, that would be a significant upgrade to what we are seeing right now.
Stay the course, be patient…
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
I've been saying that for a while now.
But it’s getting harder to do by the day.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
off my calculations
Team K/AB:
March/April: 22.2%
May: 21.9%
Jun: 22.2%
That is some consistency right there.
Go Rice Owls!
yeah josh is going to come back and best case scenario draws a few walks
so FOTF can GIDP…:(
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions
How?
It’s hard for Young to GIDP if he’s already on base or out, seeing as how he bats infront of Josh.
yeah good point sorry
was typing more out of frustration…hows this?
Josh draws a walk…
[insert ranger play here] strikes out, or grounds into a DP on 2 pitches…
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
That's much more accurate.
Also, don’t forget the infield pop-ups.
And
July
2008 .340 BABIP and 25.25 LD%
2007 .295 BABIP and 19.1 LD%
2006 .310 BABIP and 20.4 LD%
Aug
2008 .314 BABIP and 22.5 LD%
2007 .333 BABIP and 20.2 LD%
2006 .307 BABIP and 18.45 LD%
Sept
2008 .361 BABIP and 23.1 LD%
2007 .330 BABIP and 20.4 LD%
2006 .306 BABIP and 22.1 LD%
It is not like the 2nd half of the season the last few years doesn’t give the team a major offensive boost. Give it time… I was probably too conservative hoping for a .290 BABIP looking at the last three years of data.
JD’s like, "you want some fucking pitching? Here’s all the pitching you can stand. Now choke on it, bitches!"- RCCook
This is more infuriating because this division is very winnable right now.
The Angels will add some parts next year. It will probably be harder to win this thing next year.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
next year, the A's will be better
as their young pitchers will have a year under their belts.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
They'll be tougher
but where is their offense going to come from?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Carter, Cardenas, Weeks
They’ll be young and promising on offense too.
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
heh
billy beane/a’s : 2b :: jim bowden/nationals : OF
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Cardenas can play third.
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Cardenas is the closest
And he’s currently trying to adjust to AAA. There’s also going to be an adjustment period for all 3 of those guys with the possibility that at least one doesn’t make it. With their complete lack of offensive talent on the Major League team, I just don’t see their offense being that good anytime in the near future. Say what you want about the Rangers offense now, but the talent at least is there.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
you also need to assume that some key players on this team just arent going to perform as well next year.
it seems like this happens every year, IE murphy and davis this year, byrd the year before.
the pitching might just tank next year who knows?
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Besides Millwood, which key players on this team do you think will perform worse next year?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
its not that i think anyone will
its just that you have to take into consideration that its a possibility. A few years ago we thought Benoit was going to be a great bullpen arm because he had such a great year, and although he is hurt, he isn’t really helping us out at all right now. Its just too often in baseball to see someone have a great year followed by a shitty one.
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions
My point is, there aren't many key Rangers having great years.
Regression works both ways.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
anyone else think sotting ian yesterday might have been a good idea?
give him a day off before the big angels series? maybe even mike (altho we might have been no-hit). they are our best 2 bats and we need them to wake the offense up, now they are playing like shit going into a 3 gamer with the flippin angels. i dunno…
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:01 PM CDT reply actions
he's not going to start hitting on the bench
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
I'm all for sotting Ian..
I think this team could use a bender to clear their collective heads. Maybe hookers as well.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
maybe?
this team needs an army of slumpbusters…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
I agree
Ignore his ~ 17 years of having top 5 offenses every year, and instead, let’s concentrate on the low BABIP and high K-rates while dealing with an incredibly young lineup. Fuck the fact that a very-similar roster had an almost record-setting offensive season end 9 months ago… Look at June, Fire Rudy!
I'm with you...for now
but when do we start to question what he’s doing? If the offense looks like this for the rest of the season, do we still use his track record as an excuse? At what point would his past be negated?
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions
Here's the thing though
How many of the team’s hitters on the roster right now have had success under Rudy?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
If I was running the team here are my moves....
Bring up Borbon, DFA Andruw Jones.
Bring up Feliz, send down Mathis
After a few weeks, if things continue to go bad for Davis, and Smoak shows he can handle it: Send davis down and let Smoak play 1B everyday with the DH rotating through the OF combinations of Hamilton, Cruz, Murphy, and Byrd.
lineup vs rightys
1. Borbon CF
2. Young 3B
3. Kinsler 2B
4. Hamilton LF
5. Cruz RF
6. Smoak DH
7. Davis 1B
8. Salty C
9. Andrus SS
vs. leftys
1. Andrus 2B
2. Young 3B
3. Kinsler 2B
4. Hamilton DH
5. Cruz LF
6. Smoak 1B
7. Byrd RF
8. Teagarden C
9. Borbon CF
by death of the cool on Jun 29, 2009 12:21 PM CDT reply actions
sorry forgot to add...
DFA Blalock, and bring Smoak up.
by death of the cool on Jun 29, 2009 12:22 PM CDT up reply actions
Anything that allows me to stop watching Hank Blalock is a good thing
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
I like the two 2B approach vs. lefties
It will definitely sure up the right side defense.
trade????
so who do we trade for pitcher or hitter i believe a move will be made via trade??? would like to see on for sure.
if we want to be a great team in the next few years we are going to have to get another A quality pitcher somehow...
via trade, or farm system doesnt matter…
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions
The first move I'd like to see is you DFA'd
"Look out, Itchy! He’s Irish!"
Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Monday 10 PM - 1 AM and Tuesday-Thursday 9 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice, or online @ ktcu.net!
But who would you replace him with..
…on the 40(0) ?
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
He's the Kris Benson of LSB
Who cares who replaces him as long as he’s gone.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
Peavy Oswalt:
What a great name for a pitcher. He’d probably be damn good, too.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
oswalt?
peavy?
no thanks
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:37 PM CDT up reply actions
ok
i think its offcial, we need the assholes header
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions
Angriest Fans of a Recently 2nd Place Team.
I thought it be all warm and shitty, but it just tasted like normal beer. It was still cold.
That's obvious.
Please go away, now.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Everyone is bitchy when the team is slumping this bad.
Thing is, you gotta do your homework before you throw out ideas. Heard Hicks is kinda having problems right now, and he isn’t increasing the budget any? Watched baseball long enough to realize teams/hitters go through slumps?
Also, the pitching isn’t a problem right now.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Also, Peavy is on the DL for a little while longer, eh?
You post out of sheer and utter ignorance, without having any idea of what you’re talking about or what sort of forum you’re interjecting your moronic opinion into, and then you start dropping f-bombs at folks and generally acting like a complete and total goat-fucker, and you wonder why people don’t want you posting here.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
No offense
I just think that it wouldn’t be hard for you to ignore dumb posters who are just getting into the Rangers-blog scene instead of getting really upset for whatever reason dumb posts anger you
I'm not upset or angry ~ it's just LSB.
And I was actually trying to get him to come back to us a bit (see: “Peavy Oswalt,” “See, this is the problem”), before he launched into his little rants.
I’m not sure why you’re taking this so seriously ~ or, say, calling me an asshole. But that seems like your issue to work through.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
A lot of people don't know how or don't have the time
And want to involve themselves in baseball discussions, he’s just saying you don’t have to be an ass-hole about it (referring to other users here who- for some reason- get off on replying to dumb comments made by passers-by)
He could at least use some semblance...
of grammar/English.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2009 3:50 PM CDT up reply actions
The reply button
it’s your friend
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions
No one is his friend.
"Look out, Itchy! He’s Irish!"
Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Monday 10 PM - 1 AM and Tuesday-Thursday 9 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice, or online @ ktcu.net!
The reply button is everyone's friend
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
The reply button hates my guts.
I’m working through it.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Did you try sweet talking it?
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
I did, but it just responded by making fun of my hair.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Wow
I didn’t know the reply button was so shallow
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions
Superficial little thing. Very testy.
Really hurt my feelings, too.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Your hair is kind of...,meh
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw
To be honest, I could use a haircut.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Learn to use the reply feature
you douchebag
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
by DJCahill on Jun 29, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
i think we should trade for pujols and see if he can pitch for us...
ya know, cause now our offense is bad so it only seems right…
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:44 PM CDT reply actions
This thread
Reading this thread has caused me to question both the sanity and IQ level of Rangers fans. We don’t need to trade or DFA anyone at the moment. Doing that is not going to fix anything. All it will do is divide the clubhouse and anger the players. They don’t need a wakeup call saying if you don’t perform we will release you. They don’t need the management to trade several prospects for a guy we will have for half a season. This was supposed to be a rebuilding year. It was always wait till 2010. Why destroy your chances for having an excellent team in 2010 by trading someone ( blalock or AJ would work at the trade deadline because they are likely not resigning). If we release Hank we have to eat his salary, not a smart idea.
Stop Kneejerking. We are 1.5 games out and can easily be in 1st or .5 games out after this series. It isn’t even the allstar break stop acting like its freaking september
Very true.
I think too many are fatalistic when it comes to the Rangers, and think that now that they have fallen 1.5 back the season is lost.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
That, and I think many here
are just venting, and offering proposals that are more cathartic than serious.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
As the only intellectual on the board ...
please explain what wasting ABs on Hank Blalock or AJ has to do with rebuilding and reloading for 2010. Also, what return would you expect for either of those guys at the trade deadline? Finally, since the plan was to put Hank on waivers (which is not the same as releasing him), what does his salary have to do with the argument one way or the other?
Call up Joaquin Arias?
He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. Scott Thorman maybe?
No
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
Honestly,
you’d think we had the worst DH position in baseball instead of the 6th best by wOBA and 5th best by OPS.
"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers
LOL
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
This site is like 50% retarded these days.
BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Arias
at DH
HAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHHAHAHAHAAH
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:54 PM CDT up reply actions
new signature
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
who is gonna be a free agent next year?
arent brandon webb and john lackey gonna be free agents?
by mikeyoungfuturehof on Jun 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT reply actions
webb
labrum problems
lackey is going to be a FA i believe
look on cot’s baseball contracts (they have a list i believe) — an incredible site if you havent seen it before!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx
by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn’t touch lackey with a 10ft pole. Unless we get a new owner with deep pocketbooks don’t expect a big name pitcher to come to us… we get the out of their prime hitters who want to pad stats for a big payday
Straight line alert...
So, you’re saying you wouldn’t touch Lackey’s labrum with a 10 ft pole??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
zzzzz
well I am sorry,i now realize that to post here you must be a gm and i am not that… i was just looking for some interesting trade dialogue… i apologize for imposing on the throne of you immortal baseball fans…but seriously i apologize if i offened anyone…
You don't have to be a GM.
But it does help, as Rodney said, to do your homework. Peavy, for example, is out a long while ~ the Rangers aren’t going to be trading for a guy on the DL.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Didn't I see that there's some speculation he's done for the year?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I haven't seen that, but could be...?
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
dont be sorry
everyone is frustrated today.. if you would have come in here a month and a half ago people would be wanting to buy you drinks and lap dances just for the hell of it
Were you here six weeks ago?
Obviously not, because there was plenty of frustration then too. Maybe not THIS much, but LSB is not a place known for rational posts or patience. Hang around a little longer and you’ll figure that out.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:03 PM CDT up reply actions
i was reading this site 6 weeks ago, i wasnt posting. Ya there was frustration at certain players, but for most of may things were looking good. what i meant by that comment was that since things were going well people were less likely to jump down someone elses throat just for having a difference of opinion… unless your name was Josey Wales
So true
in 2011, when we have a 666 win % and a stable roster that isn’t worth arguing over, maybe we can all be friends
Lol
What drugs do you have that make you think that?
We’ll want to DFA Feliz because he only struck out 10 batters and allowed 2 runs in a complete game win when he should have struck out 18 and allowed 0 in a perfect game.
We will always bitch and moan.
Use the goddamn reply button and the death threats will stop.
Until then, die.
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Then go here...
http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors?eref=sihp
Lots and lots of crazy baseball trade ideas. Granted, most of it is too retarded to actually happen, but if it’s just trade ideas/rosterbation that you’re looking for, it should be fine.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
I lost a 50 cent can of soda last week when they lost a series to the Giants
But you don’t see me cluttering up an otherwise informative thread with nonsense.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:10 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Zing!
PS-Where do you get 50 cent soda nowadays?
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2009 3:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Actually
Yes, a lot of people care about the reply button.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:06 PM CDT up reply actions
Is this what it looks like...
..when you just type but don’t read?
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2009 3:57 PM CDT up reply actions
Flagged
You’re just being obtuse now.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 29, 2009 1:09 PM CDT up reply actions
Also flagged
i apologize for standing up for him for even a second based on principle… what a fucktard
Un realated thought from the all of the above, but
does anyone else think that they should have built a retractable roof stadium in Arlington rather than the one we have, as nice as it is it would be more for Southern California where the weather is not Africa Hot as it is here, i am not saying that’s the only reason this team does badly in June to August but i think that it must be a part of it, especially during the very hot summer years (not every year is as hot as this one will be) cities where the weather is a large factor (one way or another) like Houston, AZ, Seattle, Toronto, etc. were smart enough (or maybe i should say not cheap asses) to build those stadiums. also this team after many years of having great offenses has dumped or traded off so many first rate or at least good players over the last several years that now even in the minors we have no one left, you can’t loose players like Teix, Sosa, Matthews Jr, Adrian Gonzalez, Bradley, etc. and expect to keep the offense at those levels (not saying that Sosa GMJ or MB are great now, but when they played here they were not as bad as what we have now)
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
The Ballpark is only 15 years old
Its not getting replaced anytime soon. The only way a new stadium gets built is if another franchise moves to Dallas
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
i would like to see them play the MLB allstar game at jerryworld lol
is that bad?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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by knockoutking on Jun 29, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Honestly
I wouldn’t rule it out although that jumbotron is waaaaaaay too low for baseball
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Is it adjustable?
Can they raise it up higher to avoid that problem?
by Mark from OC on Jun 29, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
I don't think so
I think its permanently in place
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
A no-offense-intended helpful hint, speaking only for myself:
I’m much more likely to read your posts if you use the “Return” key a bit more frequently.
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
I was not making a reply, i was making a new post
but no offense taken snark
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
Not the "Reply" button ~ the "Return" key.
As in, multiple paragraphs in your post. Makes it easier on the eyes…
Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.
Sorry, my mistake
I start typing and forget about English 101, but you are correct it does make things easier on the eyes with several paragraphs
Larry Parrish Was Da Man!
My first thought while reading
This is maybe the longest single sentence I have ever seen, with four changes of topic or subtopic all nested into it. No quibble, just hard to read or understand.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 29, 2009 3:48 PM CDT up reply actions
I know who to blame.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
by ghtd36 on Jun 29, 2009 1:44 PM CDT reply actions 6 recs
righteous
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions
hah
“Guy on the internet”
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 29, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Adam
I’d like to thank you for the post title- specifically, the use of “a historic,” rather than that stupid-ass “an historic” that drives me up the damn wall every time I hear someone say it. The “h” isn’t silent, people! :)
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Like when New yorkers pronounce humor as yoomer
Ughsville.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 29, 2009 2:53 PM CDT up reply actions
Just for clarification...
…for someone moving to Houston. Do Houstonites call it Uston or is it just people from somewhere else? I always that the H was pronounced, but I heard a couple people drop the H this past weekend….very strange.
by GhettoBear04 on Jun 29, 2009 4:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I grew up in Houston
Most people say the H, but there are some who say U-ston and claim that that is the proper pronunciation.
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 29, 2009 4:11 PM CDT up reply actions
Ditto Humble
“umble” when you least expect it.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 30, 2009 12:11 AM CDT up reply actions
Actually, in Texas ...
we pronounce it “Shit Hole”.
EG with some comments
from JD explaining the move
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
