Wednesday morning Rangers stuff
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 9:17 AM CDT
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Vicente Padilla is like Forrest Gump's box of chocolates. You never know what you're going to get.
One day, you get a dominant one-hit performance. Another day, you get something like yesterday's game.
The big story, of course, isn't the 12-3 loss or Padilla's bad outing or Derek Holland struggling, but that Padilla hit Mark Teixeira twice. I don't think there's much question that it was intentional, and I'm baffled as to why so many Rangers fans seem to think that hitting an opposing player -- two times -- is so awesome, particularly when the justification seems to be that he's a douche. Based on what a certain lefty reliever says, if that's your criteria for a player deserving to be hit, then we'd have a dozen HBPs per game.
And it also strikes me that there's a certain double-standard when it comes to, say, Mark Teixeira and Alex Rodriguez...the attitude seems to be that they suck and should be booed and reviled because they are douches and whined their way out of town. Of course, in Teixeira's situation, in particular, the Rangers are a hell of a lot better now than they would have been if he were still here, and ARod is now in his 6th season as a Yankee, so I'd think that a lot of that would be water under the bridge.
Meanwhile, Rafael Palmeiro and Juan Gonzalez suck, in part, because they vetoed trades that would have sent them out of Texas. So if you want to be traded from the Rangers, you suck, and if you don't want to be traded from the Rangers, you suck.
Personally, if you want to be pissed off at someone, it makes more sense to be angry at Carlos Lee, who dogged it late in his stint with the Rangers, or Milton Bradley, who admitted not playing last season when he could have because he didn't have a long-term deal, or Vicente Padilla, who has had some questionable injury issues and has a history of putting his teammates in the line of fire by throwing at guys.
But then, I also don't get the huge hatred for the Yankees (or BoSox, for that matter) that so many fans seem to have. I have a lot more animosity towards the M's and Angels than I do the Yankees. Maybe if the Yankees weren't working on a decade without a World Series win I'd feel differently, I guess.
Anyway...Evan Grant's game story is about Padilla throwing at Teixeira, which prompted Teixeira to aggressively take out Elvis Andrus and A.J. Burnett to throw at Nelson Cruz later in the game. The game was actually tied when Padilla hit Teixeira the second time, and hitting him to load the bases helped open the flood gates, with the Yankees being up 9-3 at the end of that inning.
Jeff Wilson says that Padilla's command was off yesterday, and quotes Padilla as denying that he threw at Teixeira.
And in other lousy news, Josh Hamilton has a sports hernia, and will apparently be out a couple of months.
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Cheering for other guys to get hit is stupid
no matter how annoying they are (and yes, Tex is annoying). Who all was giddy that Padilla hit him twice?
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 9:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not me...
…I saw it simply as two more baserunners allowed by Padilla.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 9:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Padilla/Tex...
There is no doubt in my mind that the 2nd HBP was intentional, but the first one? Why is everyone so convinced that Padilla did that on purpose? And, as for Tex’s slide… I think he goes in had to break up at DP regardless of the HBP.
by Topgun22 on Jun 3, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Keyboard fail...
….I think he goes in hard to break up that DP regardless…..
by Topgun22 on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think your wrong
Tex doen’t go hard like that unless he gets hit
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He would be an idiot not to
even if he wasn’t hit by a pitch.
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's silly to think
that he didn’t have the HBP on his mind when sliding into 2B.
Get outta here.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 12:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It may have been on his mind
but the base runners job is to break up the double play. That’s fundamental baseball.
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, duh.
But you can bet your ass that Teix was making extra sure that he was sliding in a fundamentally sound way.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
So if he hadn't been HBP
you don’t think he would have been “extra” sure to break up the dp? Probably would have jogged over to second and and politely asked Elvis to let ARod reach first base safely, huh?
by Anonymous New Guy on Jun 3, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand why people are making a big deal out of Tex breaking up a DP.
It’s baseball, it’s normal, it’s acceptable, we sucked last night. What’s the big deal? That he possibly tried a little harder to break it up since he was beaned? Who cares if he did?
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 1:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snooze.
Watch the play again.
I don’t care one way or the other, btw. It’s all a comedy for me. These little tit for tat exchanges just makes the Great Game more entertaining, imo.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wasn't giddy
But seeing Teix pissing and moaning reminded me why I disliked him. I’ve got the guy on my fantasy team so I don’t dislike his play, but he just rubs me the wrong way.
The Girl and I were watching the game in the bar so no sound. When Teix got hit the second time she mentioned how she’s always thought he was a douche and she doesn’t even know any of the backstory on him. She just doesn’t like him. And she’s a Red Sox fan and mentioned that she doesn’t even hate Jeter.
Sometimes people just rub you the wrong way both in sports and real life. Maybe it’s irrational but when so many people around this site think Teix is a douche maybe there’s something to it. His mannerisms, the way he acts, etc. For me it has nothing to do with his play, the trade, comments he made, or any of that. I just think he seems like he’s a dick.
If I remember correctly AJM described Teix as a guy at a frat party that confronts you because he thinks you’re looking at his girlfriend and threatens to punch you.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jun 3, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
FWIW I know people that grew up with him....
and they think he’s always been an ass.
by bdavison94 on Jun 3, 2009 12:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Baltimore
The entire city thinks he’s an ass, and they’re right.
Not sure where to put this, but I heard somewhere that Padilla and Teixeiria didn’t like each other much when they were both with Texas, but again, not many do like Teixeiria so who knows.
by BoogPowell on Jun 3, 2009 4:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree entirely about Tex
I never, ever, liked him as a Ranger; I counted down the days until he was traded. I’ve never had so much antipathy towards a Ranger in my life. I didn’t like certain players before (e.g., Darren Oliver), but that was because they were bad/disappointing. Teixeira was good, even great at times. But I hated him nonetheless. Something about the way he acts on the field gets under my skin. He’s just not someone I enjoy watching play baseball.
That JD extracted 4 very good players for him makes me giddy, and is probably the main reason why I irrationally like Matt Harrison so much.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admit to laughing at it when it hit him in the ass
but it wasn’t smart if it was intentional…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok listen to what Teix said
They keep replaying his interview today on Sportscenter and he says Everytime I face him he seems to throw pitches near my head.
Yet we all saw it hit him in the butt. Is this Teix’s way of admitting to the world that his head is up his butt?
by Mark from OC on Jun 3, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well
“But then, I also don’t get the huge hatred for the Yankees (or BoSox, for that matter) that so many fans seem to have. I have a lot more animosity towards the M’s and Angels than I do the Yankees. Maybe if the Yankees weren’t working on a decade without a World Series win I’d feel differently, I guess.”
Go to a Yankees game in Rangers gear and then tell me if you still believe that.
by Agreen07 on Jun 3, 2009 9:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean
I’ve been to Fenway and NY in Rangers gear. Yankees fans are ass holes, bottom line.
by Agreen07 on Jun 3, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed.
My wife and I went to Boston in Rangers gear and left by the 6th inning due to the ill-natured fans.
by Trickman on Jun 3, 2009 11:17 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wore Rangers gear to Fenway 2 years ago...
No heckling at all.
Had a pretty good time despite the Rangers losing.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why I hate the Yankees more
I read this board all the time…probably too often…but never post. I’d like to throw an answer out to this one.
Perhaps I hate the Yankees more than any other team is because my favorite team…my diehard….stomach ache…shouts of joy team…has been to the playoffs 3 times. All three times…the Rangers have lost to this team.
I was at the first game in 96…heartbreak to lose that game. I don’t hate them because they outspend everyone…that doesn’t help their cause in my heart…but I hate them because they broke my heart three times. The only three times I’ve had a chance to watch my team play in October.
by Doc Mabee on Jun 3, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Didn't we win the first game in 1996?
by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We won in Yankee Stadium
Lost first game in Arlington, I think that’s what he meant.
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Correct...first game in Arlington.
Left field…row 6. Sea of Red…oh the glory days
by Doc Mabee on Jun 3, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the historical analysis of this series from 1961
W L %
Senators 74 121 .3795
Rangers 167 230 .4207
Total 241 351 .4071
The only years this franchis has had a winning record against the Yankees were 1966, 1987:1993(Valentine Years), 1996, 2003, and 2008.
So, this would tend to cause some frustration with losing to this team, time and again. Maybe, when and if this team hits the Playoffs, it should be Valentine Time once again, particually if we have to play the Yankess. Fortunately, the Rangers don’t have to play the Yankess 18 times a year anymore like they did in their Washington days. I bet Hicks wouldn’t mind their playing 18 times a year though, for all the Yankee items he can sell at TBIA, and sell-out crowds.
by SanDiegoKev on Jun 3, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to a Rangers game in Yankees Stadium with a Rangers hat on
sat in the bleachers no less.
Their fans are infinitely less annoying/obnoxious than Angels fans. And Yankees fans actually understand baseball.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Were you the guy in the Rangers hat sitting near me
You prob weren’t getting crap cause you were only wearing a hat, I got tons of crap all game long for wearing a Michael Young jersey.
by Agreen07 on Jun 3, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
should have had a custom MY jersey
with his # on th eback and FOTF on the name plate
come to think of it i may just do that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I will be at Yankee Stadium tomorrow
in my Rangers hat and Holland jersey-shirt (if it arrives today).
I’ll report back.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sit in the bleachers
that’s where the good stuff goes down.
by Agreen07 on Jun 3, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
there last night
I was in the Grandstand last night with my Rangers hat on. Some Yankee fans were heckling a lot and being jerks. (They hated that I just ignored them.) They’re my least favorite fans in baseball.
by PubliusNemo on Jun 3, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How were the seats otherwise?
What section?
by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We did that...
A few years ago my wife and I went to NY to see the sights and a Ranger/Yankee came in the big apple. We even rode the subway to the park in our Ranger T shirts and caps. Everyone was very nice, chatted us up. Everyone was nice at the park too as we cheered for our losing Rangers.
Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson
by RangerEddie on Jun 3, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Been to both places
Been to Fenway in Rangers gear many times and old Yankee stadium once. I honestly found Boston fans to be slight dicks but nothing too bad. When some guys started chanting “lets go Rangers” even though the Rangers weren’t playing I found it kind of funny. If anything, the Red Sox fans that go to tRBiA are mouthier than the ones at Fenway. Also, I found some Rangers fans at tRBiA to be more rude than Yankees fans at Yankee Stadium.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
by WyoRanger on Jun 3, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I went to a game out there 2 years ago
to see Unit dominate the Rangers. I didn’t have any Rangers gear with me.
However, there was this poor soul that wore a Mets cap…and the whole section – I’m talking at least 500 people – surrounded him with fists pumped and doing some cuss-laden cheer at him. It was awesome. I love the Yankees fans.
I hate the Yankees because of Steinbrenner and his giant pocket. It’s jealousy. Plain and simple. If I was a Yanks fan, I’d be in love with him. He gives his team a legitimate chance to win it all each and every year. And I hate that.
Back in the day, I’d have been a HUGE Mantle fan. Babe, too. And plenty of others. And I don’t hate Jeter, or Matsui, or Posada…I cheer against them each and every time, though. I do hate Teix now. And A-Rod. And I love to see CC dominated although he’s gotten it together. I basically wish ill (statistical) will towards all Yankees. But damnit am I jealous and do I wish I had that team’s history and winning to cheer for…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It isn't jealousy for me
I would never trade being a Rangers fan for being a Yankees fan.
by Agreen07 on Jun 3, 2009 5:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Teixeira needs to be angry to make that kind of play...
…then someone needs to teach him some things about “playing the game the right way”. He should always make that takeout slide, at least if a game is still in doubt. I thought it was the play of the game myself. Good, clean, hard baseball.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 9:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
He touched the bad with his arm, went in correctly, stayed down long enough to not completely flip andrus, and just jogged off the field afterwards. I do like the presence of Andrus though to probably know something like that was coming and stay in there
by Michael Cave on Jun 3, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Both EA and MT...
…played that perfectly. Just wish Elvis had still been able to turn the DP.
A fun play to watch.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton
There are a couple of issues here. First, I think this season raises some serious red flags regarding a long term deal for him in Texas. The Rangers will still control him for several seasons after this and I think it makes a lot of sense to just let him play out his contract rather than commit to a long term deal if there are serious doubts about his health. Further, it makes me wonder if the team might need to find a hitter now.
by pblack on Jun 3, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
i hadn't considered it before now
so i din’t have a name in mind, but we could really use a left handed stick that could put fear into someone. I don’t think anyone is too scared of Crush at this point.
by Clownballoon on Jun 3, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
My thoughts exactly...
…let’s not get too hasty about an extension. Let this thing play itself out a little.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only reason to extend Hammy, healthy or un, is feelgoodiness
He’s too old for there to be that much value in buying out a FA yr or two. We already control him through his age 31 season.
With his injury history and the recidivism possility I’d say it is a bad gamble to ink him to an extension.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2009 12:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who would be available?
Would you go after Matt Holliday right now? I dont think Beane would trade him to the Rangers w/o the Rangers giving up a few of their top prospects such as Feliz and/or Smoak. looking at other teams out of the race you have:
Nationals: Adam Dunn maybe? He would be a DH so then you would have Blalock on the bench or at first. I think the cost would be pretty high as well. Feliz, Main, or Perez would have to be the centerpiece to any trade.
Rockies: Todd Helton? I dont know if they would trade their FF however it would be a smart move to unload him. I just dont know how much it would take. They would probably ask for Smoak as a quick replacement. I wouldnt do it. Maybe a package centered around Main and a younger arm like font or boscan
Arizona: Nothing that would interest the Rangers.
Padres: Brian Giles? No thanks. Adrian Gonzalez? Dont think they would deal him and if they did you are looking at Feliz AND Smoak to start.
Astros: Lance Berkman? Not hitting that well this year but his OPS+ is at 118. The astros probably want to start the convo with Smoak
Pirates: Adam LaRoche? Not a huge bat but effective. Dont know what they would really want but I dont think the Rangers would have to part with Feliz, Smoak, Ramirez, Holland, or Main.
Indians: Hafner? Injured and the same problem exists with him as it does with Dunn. Maybe could get him for a cheap relatively speaking though.
Orioles: Luke Scott/Aubrey Huff? Maybe however they are both DH types and the Orioles will seemingly overvalue them.
by Michael Cave on Jun 3, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nick Johnson
I mentioned it the other day and someone fanposted on it yesterday. But he’s a very good hitter who’ll probably be pretty cheap (wouldn’t need to trade a blue chip for him)
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sorry, forgot him..
He wouldnt be a bad addition. I just hope the Rangers would DH him. His UZR is -3.8 while Blalock’s is actually .3. Johnson would be a nice 6th hole hitter in this lineup. The only thing I would worry about when asking for any of these first base types is that they would ask for Smoak. What do you think it would take for Johnson? Im thinking the Nationals would ask for Ramirez and a lower arm like Main, Beavan or perhaps Boscan. Too much? Too litte?
by Michael Cave on Jun 3, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Johnson would hopefully be 3 hitter while Hambone is out.
The guy’s an OBP machine.
And, yah.
DH all the way.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
id love to get him
but in my opinion, Davis would have to be demoted, Hank get most starts at 1b, and AJ getting alot more time in LF, taking Byrd’s previous role over as the majority holder in a LF platoon while also getting starts at DH some times. Jones’ bat is needed more than ever now that Hammy is out
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Blalock is a platoon right now, no matter what.
And I think Jones should be playing everyday at either 1b, LF or DH.
And doesn’t Byrd become the everyday CF’er now that Hambone is out for so long?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yes, thats why AJ would take his spot in LF
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, okay.
I misinterpreted what you were saying.
In my defense that was one hell of a run-on sentence there.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't want to see much of Jones at 1B.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he'd take to it quick enough.
He’s got good hand eye coordination and the physical ability to make all the plays he’d need to make.
He won’t be Chris Davis around the bag, but neither will Hankles.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i want to see about zero
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jun 3, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess it depends on how many teams out there will be seeking a 1b/DH
But MaxRam + Boscan or NeRa may get it done. And I think I would do that if you could get the deal done. Johnson will likely be a type B FA (guess he could work up to type A, but not too likely).
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wouldn't trade Boscan for him straight up.
But, yah.
I think the price on him could be reasonable.
Though the comp picks might be a bit of a non-issue, seeing as how I’d hesitate to offer him arb when he’d likely accept it and stick us with a rather large bill.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you trade main for johnson
straight up?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
boscan?
kiker + melo?
moscoso + kiker?
moscoso + melo?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I really don't think...
the Rangers need Johnson.
If they are going to deal prospects like that I’d rather they include another prospect or 2 and go get a starting pitcher.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im in the same boat as you
for the most part
getting another 1b/dh type doesnt help ta all right now
now if they traded main + ??? for say adam dunn and made him a full time OF i wouldnt have a huge problem with that
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh...
I would have a huge problem with seeing Dunn in the OF every night. That guys defense is very bad. Besides, I want to see a OF of Hamilton/Borbon/Cruz next year.
I think the Rangers should keep going with what they have been doing and develop the system. If a top of the rotation pitcher is available for the right price then I’m ok with that. Otherwise stay the course.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the question is
are people willing to go with an OF of those 3 guys, splitting dunn/hamilton btwn DH and then you have the whole issue of 1b to deal with…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not really...
worried about 1B. Not only do I think CD is going to turn it around, but Smoak is comin’ a lot faster than I thought he would.
Dunn is a nice LH bat and a great OBP guy, but I wouldn’t trade for him just to DH which is all I think he’s good for.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the 1b Deal i meant was
smoak/davis btw
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Any Johnson deal
would be a “win in 2009” deal. You’d have to think trading for Johnson will more or less solidify this team’s division chances, especially if the team is up by 5+ games at the ASB.
I think long term Smoak is your 1b, and Davis, if he bounces back, will give you a DH (or the other way around, wouldn’t want to hurt anyone’s feelings). But THIS YEAR, Johnson would help. Heck, I’d trade for Johnson and then trade Blalock for peanuts if Davis started coming around.
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather...
keep the prospect(s) that it would take to get Johnson and roll with what we already have. If Davis continues to struggle then put Blalock there ’til Smoak is ready.
I just don’t see Johnson as that big of an upgrade over what the Rangers already have.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
over blalock?
uhh yes, every day and twice on sundays
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd rather see
Johnson than Dunn. Jones in the OF seems better than Dunn. Plus Johnson’s contract expires this year and doesn’t clog up the team in future years.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 3, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you trade main for johnson
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
nope.
but Dunn probably costs even more than Johnson.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 3, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think the Rangers need Johnson?
I guess opinions on this will vary based on what you think Davis will do, but if Davis doesn’t pull out of this funk this season, 1b will be by far the least productive position in the Rangers lineup. If you add Johnson, it would probably become one of the top 3 most potent positions offensively.
How well do you think this team is going to do if Hamilton is out for a long time and Davis doesn’t return to form?
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
would you trade
main + maxram + say pimental/gomez for johnson/dunn?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that is too much
First, Johnson and Dunn are different guys altogether. While both are probably best suited for DH, Dunn is a> a better hitter, and b> tied up longer than just this year. If you get Dunn, you’re basically giving up on Davis. In fact, in a Dunn trade, I’d center it around Davis + mid-tier pitcher. I don’t think I’d do that though.
If the rumors that the Nats were thinking of trading Johnson for Manny Declarman are true, or even in the ballpark, you’re way overpaying for him with that deal. I think MaxRam and a B pitcher, like Boscan or Moscoso
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hmm
interesting
i think he ends up getting traded one way or aanother fwiw
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
really?
thats way too much. Id say Maxram + Pimentel would do it by themselves
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
for BOTH guys?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, Im not saying that he isnt gonna be out 2 months, because that seems like its a definitely possibility
but to say that he is gonna be out 2 months is a misnomer, everything that has been said about this says either 2-3 weeks or 2 months, just depends on how it is in 2 weeks. So its a definite overstatement a cliff jumping mentality to just say he’s gonna be out til sept/august and give up on all hope that he’s gonna be back soon
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but whats wrong with thinking hes gonna be out 2 months?
that way were pleasantly suprised if he comes back early! :)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"If you add Johnson, it would probably become one of the top 3 most potent positions offensively."
Yep.
At least until his fragile little vag sprouts an ouchie, which, if past history is any indicator, is a likelihood of about 97%.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
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by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2009 12:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, No, No and YES in a heart beat.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ha, how awesome would that be, Laird for Johnson. Id take that
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you and me both
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, not to create a firestorm, but...
…Barry Bonds is out there somewhere not playing for anybody and maybe not in any kind of BB condition, but…really big bat…not that I would want him as a Ranger, but then again…really big bat…
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by pro82 on Jun 3, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would be fantastic from a baseball standpoint.
Unfortunately, even with all the other names coming out, everyone still paints him the poster boy of PED usage. It would be too much of a circus. I have little doubt the guy could still OPS around a 1.000.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 10:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes a hell of a hitter
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really think it is something to look into
If he really wants to play, this would be his last chance if the Rangers gave him the opportunity. It is pretty clear that no other team is interested. Sit him down and tell him that his attitude won’t last very long here and if he gets out of hand, show him the door like sidney ponson. The Rangers did a similar thing to Sosa at the beginning of spring training two years ago and he seemed like he was able to put his me first attitude to the side for one last chance to play.
by trgordon723 on Jun 3, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i would be ok if they signed him
and basically said, were giving you an X week/game/AB audition, if you do good we may keep you, if not we wont
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:15 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the problem with Bonds
What if he comes in and hits a mediocre but not awful .240/.360/.470 with some home runs. After a month you decide that you may as well go with Davis (who you put in AAA to give Bonds a place in the lineup and has now started hitting), since he can give you that same level of production and help for the future as well.
Bonds isn’t the type of guy to go quietly. He isn’t the type of guy to say “yeah, thanks for the opportunity, maybe it is time to go”. He’ll be out in front saying the Rangers screwed him, that the Rangers had a deal and backed out. Blah, blah, blah. He’s a giant can of worms that no smart team trying to actually deal with a playoff race needs to open
Go Rice Owls!
by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
so tell the press
right off the bat that he has an X game/AB/week chance to audition for a position and if the org doesnt think he was better then their internal options they would cut him
whats he going to bitch/moan about then?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tough titties.
One thing I appreciate about this years Rangers versus the Rangers of a few years ago, they were able to cut Cat and were able to tell Andruw if he signed he’d be a bench player.
Fundamentally, it doesn’t matter if Bonds goes kicking and screaming. Everyone knows he is a pariah, and a pariah kicking and screaming isn’t that big of a deal.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
by DJCahill on Jun 3, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take that chance.
But I’ve always been a Bonds fan.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd take him in a second.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if you're serious about the prices for all of these guys
that’s a big NO.
I’d go after a Nick Johnson type, or hell, why not sign the devil himself…Barry Bonds?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i really despise the yankees fans more than anything
And my hatred of the yankees has more to do with wanting those clowns to be miserable. The ones I know personally (I grew up in New York) have an outrageous sense of entitlement and act as those the rest of baseball is their personal farm system for them to poach at the trade deadline or whatever.
by Clownballoon on Jun 3, 2009 9:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
Last All Star game when Hamilton was wooing the large NY crowd one of the ESPN dorks (can’t remember who) said something like “the fans here are chanting his name because they know someday he will probably be a yankee player” so you are right about the yankee fans and their feeling of entitlement the rangers are looked on by them as a 4A team (the same way they look at most of the other teams, other than the Redsox, Dodgers, Cards, etc.) so it’s not so much that i dis-like the yankee players, it’s their stinkin fans i can’t stand.
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by TRFAN on Jun 3, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pretty sure that was John Kruk
and damned if he didn’t say the SAME DAMNED THING during a BBTN episode earlier this season.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jun 3, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last week at RBiA...
…I saw at least two “Hamilton 32” Yankee t-shirts in the homerun porch seats.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, you have got to be kidding
Seriously? I am SO GLAD I missed that while I was there.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jun 3, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow
i would laugh so hard if i saw that
ya know, come to think of it it would be pretty epic if mo rivera gave a big fuck you to the yankees and played a year in boston…john smoltz style lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Precisely
Growing up a Rangers fan since Vandergriff first got them to Arlington, I know how crappy it felt when the Yankees were in town and more of their fans than our own were in the stands. And it was all about the entitlement with the Yankees, from the owner down through the organization and on to the fans. “We’re the Yankees . . . we’re SUPPOSED to be good.” The resultant psychology is, as a kid, you’re made to feel inferior because you root for the “wrong” team. It’s a very natural reaction to learn to hate that which makes you feel like a second-class citizen. And it carried over to the players who didn’t want to play for your team, but jumped at the chance to put on the pinstripes. You wanted them to be your heroes, but instead they scorned your team (and by extension, you and your loyalty), and you saw them as traitors. Maybe as an adult, you come to understand the business realities of sports, but that loathing never completely goes away.
by TSRThomas on Jun 3, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Last night was embarassing.
And the second HBP to Teix was simply wrong and didn’t need to happen. Way to go, Padz.
Let’s just hope that last night will be a catalyst for the Rangers to get their heads out of their asses and win a few of these road games.
Glad to see Chris Davis making contact with the ball now. I’d rather him fly out to center than strikeout. I’ve never heard of a sacrifice K.
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 3, 2009 9:34 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, what?
First of all, Gonzalez and Palmeiro don’t play baseball. How can they be booed, even if someone wanted to? That’s a silly comparison.
Second, A Rod is still booed in Seattle. Maybe it’s time you accept the fact that A Rod is going to be booed forever. Get over it.
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
"Get Over It"
Sounds like great advice for angry Seattle and Texas fans.
by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 9:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why is he boo'ed in seattle
i just dont get the ppl who boo him for getting the big contract in the first place
its dumb, dumb, dumb.
so if they got offered 2.2 million a year after making 43,000 a year would they bitch (btw arod went from 4.3 mil to 22 million) and moan about it? would they turn it dowon on the principle of the thing? no.
fuck seattle.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i just dont like him
don’t really care what contract he got or that he wanted to be traded i just dont like him.
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by rentz on Jun 3, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hes a liar and a cheater
If you had someone like that in your office, you would hate him too
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 3, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
they havent liked him since long before any of that came out
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was just stating why i dont like him now
but you could kind of tell with how smug he has been over the last few years that something was going on
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ahh
meh on the “something was going on” — who had any reson to believe he did steroids before now?
where were the (legit) rumors?
…come on
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im just going on what I saw on his face
im not a big follower of numbers, to me, he just represents all that I used to hate about baseball
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like what
a guy who jumps at the chance to make 252 million?
who plays well on defense and offesnse?
who tries (too hard) to say the right things all the time?
what was there to hate about him before his 24 kids/wanting to get traded, etc?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:23 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im just refering to the last few years
prior to him jumping ship and sitting in steinbenners lap, i didnt mind, he has just become one the icons i choose to hate. Of course, there is probably a big list. I just wish I could have seen it back in the day, when it was a pastime, when it was a lot more pure, this years Rangers are more of a pure team to me, not a team you try to make up on 2K8 so that you can go 162-0
by future_longhorn_dad on Jun 3, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is exactly right.
Guys shouldn’t get booed for taking a contract that benefits themselves and their families, esp not by fans of teams who wouldn’t match the money. (Booing for other reasons is fine, of course.) Tex gets booed in Baltimore for taking the Yankee deal that gave him another year and $40 million more over the 8 year term. There is not a fan in stands at Camden Park who wouldn’t have done the same thing in the same situation.
by prov2002 on Jun 3, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I think part of why Tex gets booed in Baltimore is that he made a HUGE deal out of saying repeatedly in the media that he wanted to play for his “home-town” team and then signed with NYY anyway.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jun 3, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm guessing he would have signed with Baltimore
if they matched the money, or came close. But maybe not. Maybe he was just ginning up interest to inflate the deal from NY, which was maybe where he always wanted to end up. However, Baltimore wasn’t even the second highest offer he had on the table, and it was sure to be hot bidding for him even without the O’s. So, I don’t know. I just think it’s hard to criticize him taking a deal so much better than the one the O’s were offering. It wasn’t just marginally better.
by prov2002 on Jun 3, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another reason why I can't stand the guy
He told SI what a dream it would be to play in Balt. while he was still here.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
First Place Mother Effin' Texas Rangers!!!
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by Rodney on Jun 3, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 11 recs
Thanks, Rodney!
She say she are the manager.
by rockin_rangers on Jun 3, 2009 9:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ahhh, yes...keeping things in perspective
we lost last night but so did the California/Anaheim/Los Angeles Angels…still 4.5 game lead…
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by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 3, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell YES!!
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by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
wooo
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I needed that.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope fans don't get too twisted about Padilla's outing last night
or at least blame him.
It was his first start after a DL stint and it happened to be against one of the better offensive teams in MLB. Nadel & Barnett talked about how he hadn’t had any more than a couple of 60 pitch bully sessions before last night.
It looked like a humid night which may or may not have taxed his conditioning and he didn’t have command.
Hopefully he’s better in Fenway.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2009 9:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
I love the way he's erratic
as long as he’s putting together a few good starts surrounding one like last night. I like the fact that he scares hitters. I just want to see more of the 1 hit Padilla in the future…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit the mascot.
What? You heard me Meat, hit the mascot!
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by Parman on Jun 3, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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by WhipSmart on Jun 3, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
There's nothing wrong with a rant every now and then
by BEW on Jun 3, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yankee hate
Why do I hate the Yankees?
1. They beat us all three times we made the playoffs
2. They’re the Yankees
As for Teixeira and A-Rod: I don’t have anything against Tex.
But A-Rod’s “24 kids” comment was an insult to his teammates (even if partially true) and I was disappointed that he made it very clear just three years into that $252 million deal that he wanted out. Plus, I never liked him much in Seattle- he always struck me as a pretty-boy prima donna- and so it was very easy to go back to disliking him after he left.
Time may forgive a lot of things, but A-Rod? I’m always gonna think he’s a bit sorry. I still haven’t forgiven Harold Baines for admitting he dogged it while he was here either.
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by RCCook on Jun 3, 2009 9:38 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Another thing about Bitch Tits
“Ok, I did steroids and repeatedly lied about it, but only when I was in Texas”
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did Pudge say he only used steroids in Texas?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, he just showed up considerably thinner one spring.
With the Tigers, I think?
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does that really bother you, Tricer?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
doesn't bother me
but it does contribute to my opinion of him.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw that remark
as an attempt by Bitch Tits to deflect a little bit of the heat and shift it to a team that he was no longer affiliated with, and at the same time an attempt to appease his current employers/teammates/fans at the same time. A truly chickenshit thing to do.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
chicken shit
but you would have manned up and admitted it, right?
i mean he has how much possibly coming to him after reaching those “milestones” 20 mil i think? would you want to jepardize it if you were him?
do i agree with it? no
do i think it was a horrible thing to do? actually…no.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't bother me in the sense that I'm a Texas supporter and I think he's throwing us under the bus or whatever.
I don’t care about that at all.
It bothers me that it’s an obvious copout and it’s just more of the same disingenuous lying bullshit he’s always heaping on the public via his contrived media interactions.
Admit what you did, pussy.
No one will care once it’s out there.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or, well, the level of caring will go way down.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His attitude seemed to be
that well, I did it, and I continually lied about it, but it’s not really that bad because I didn’t do it while on a real team, certainly not while on the hallowed Yankees, only when I was slumming with that Texas team.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 10:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, I think he tried to confine only to his Texas days cause that's all anyone could prove.
If he had a positive test from his time in a place, just try to say it was a thing you only did while in that particular place.
It must’ve seemed like a stroke of genius to him at the time.
I think if he’d had a positive test come to light from his first year in NY he’d’ve said he only expiremented with it that first year cause of the pressure to succeed in NY or whatever.
Anything you can do to confine something to a specific point in your past is good in a damage control situation.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only in Texas .. Rudy, HR's, "That Ballpark"
All part of kicking shit under the rug, like a pussy would.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 12:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
like Giambi
he’ll just sparkle a bit more then fade…
or not. or he might put up the best numbers ever for a hitter. either way…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you say Giambi and sparkle in the same sentence
and all I can see is a gold thong…
Damn you. Damn you to hell…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jun 3, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex played his ass off for the Rangers
but he happened to be here when the Rangers had a terrible owner. You really can’t blame him for wanting out of here in 2007 because that was a very, very bleak time to be a Ranger player or fan.
Per ARod – Same thing to a certain degree. He played his ass off for the Rangers as well but what ultimately happened was on the incompetent owner. The “24 kids” comment made for a good rallying cry for us but it stung like hell because it was the truth.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't blame him for wanting out,
I blame him for the way he handled it.
by jcAustin on Jun 3, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Yep
And the “24 kids” comment, while true, was a douchebag thing to say, if for no other reason than it threw his teammates under the bus along with Hicks.
I feel a lot about A-Rod like I feel about Terrell Owens- great player, enjoyed him while he was on my team, but a selfish jackass of a human being who had his best years with one of my team’s rivals, and so I’m always going to dislike the guy. I don’t wish injuries on either one, but does it bother me when they play poorly? Not in the least.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
by RCCook on Jun 3, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the fun thing is
that we will be winning a world series next year with “24 kids” and A-Rod might be missing the playoffs for a 3rd consecutive season and no world series title to show as a Yankee. That’s at least how I hope to see it…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
your very right here
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
AJM is a Teixeira lover.......
I know we’re better off without him, and that trade made our team, but that doesn’t make me dislike him less. I’m not gonna thank a guy for being a tool. But i do take back my support of hitting Teix, in that situation. It was part of the degeneration of that game and i’m pissed at Padilla for falling apart. He seems to let the team down a lot.
by jcAustin on Jun 3, 2009 9:39 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I loved the trade of Tex.
But I really dislike that douchebag. Those attitudes are not mutually exclusive.
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 9:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I need to constantly remind myself about this....
If Tex is not a complete arse and makes it clear he does not want to be a Ranger, the Rangers don’t trade him and I am denied the opportunity to see Elvis Andrus in a Rangers uniform.
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 3, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
same here
Remember when he marched into Wash’s office and told him that he was the great Mark Teixeira and he didn’t pay any attention to no stinking “take” sign? Apparently that is the way to play the game the right way according to Mr. Teix.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
throwing at peoples heads is the right way too apparently
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 3, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
throwing at people
just to throw at people is chicken shit
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Did that really happen?
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, there was a report of a heated argument in Wash's office
that was based on Teix’s distaste of the take sign Wash gave him, and Wash’s distaste of it being ignored.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hmmm... now that you mention it I do kind of remember that.
I always thought giving a veteran guy like Tex who doesn’t hack and has a great eye a mandate to take a pitch no matter what was stupid, so I don’t really disagree with him voicing his displeasure for it, so long as he was willing to accept it in the end if the coach insisted.
Cause you gotta do what the boss says in the end.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
bingo
I’m not going to thank Tex for making the team better b/c our GM got a great deal… That’s like giving Pete Best all the credit for the Beatles’ success because if he hadn’t left, they wouldn’t have had Ringo…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jun 3, 2009 12:11 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
I'll rec that...
…anytime you can put baseball and the Beatles in the same sentence and be amusing I’ll rec it.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As the biggest Beatles fan here
I’m going to have to say Salty, Feliz, Andrus, Harrison, Jones >>> Ringo.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you sure you're the biggest?
I go 6’3"/225. How big are you?
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But you are 6'5 with the fro
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2009 2:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not today...
…I’m wearing a LOT of relaxer.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 3:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
We've had a lot of Yokos througout the years.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dude, Ringo would have made a great SS
quick hands, rhythm, that nose probably could have blocked a line drive or two a year…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
by WhipSmart on Jun 3, 2009 2:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Are you taunting brett?
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And in other good news...
Nothing about Kelvim Escobar’s third and final rehab start in Class AAA on Monday has given the Angels pause. The right-hander is still expected to start Saturday in Detroit—his first major league start since the 2007 season.
Escobar yielded five runs, eight hits, two walks and a hit batter in five innings for Class AAA Salt Lake. He threw 87 pitches, only 46 strikes…he will start Saturday in Detroit, bumping unbeaten Matt Palmer (5-0) to the bullpen.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 3, 2009 9:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
if that happens, i hope Matt Palmer is the Scott Feldman of the Angels and they end up
royally screwing themselves over
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 9:43 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wash and Co. screwed Feldman,
…but now he’s back. I Hope he shuts the Spankees down tonight.
by jcAustin on Jun 3, 2009 9:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
whats a bigger joke?
matt palmer at 5-0 or the fact that FOTF won a GG last year? lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
if he's already losing control
watch him pull a Lackey in his first start. Granderson better be on the lookout heh
my sig is better than yours
by hinduplaya on Jun 3, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Little bit of misinformation there
Hamilton COULD be out 2 months… its no guarantee that he’ll have surgery
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 9:42 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
btw, I've been saying this for a while, but for no other reason than the added risk of injury
Hamilton needs to be moved off of CF. Some of y’all might not think it makes that much of a difference, but I believe that he would not have had half as many chances to injure himself playing LF or RF. The two times he’s run full speed sideways into a wall are the two times that immediately got him into injury problems, all the extra all out sprinting and diving hasnt helped. The fact that he’s already fragile and such a big guy dont help either, but throwing him out there in CF is just upping the liklihood of him getting hurt. We badly need to move him off there IMO.
The splits he had in RF vs. CF at the plate may seem to some as just a sample size issue, but Im not gonna totally ignore that too, there is just not enough upside to having him in CF vs. corner OF spot to justify all the added injury possibilities and the possibility that the added stress of playing there hurts his batting when you have a guy like Byrd who can play CF everyday just as well right now and hopefully a guy like Borbon down the line. There is no need for Hamilton to ever be our go to CF ever again, and if he continues to be run out there as our CF, I’ll be shaking my head.
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of us are with you on this. I don't completely agree with all of your logic here, but we agree enough.
And, don’t worry.
He’ll be in LF next year.
Bank on it.
Hambone/Whiskey/Cruz.
The OF of the future.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:12 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd be surprised if he plays CF again this year.
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, in the context of what Nolan said before the season started.
This assumes he misses 2 months.
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im happy with him in a corner OF
just like you said, stick cruz in one corner, hamilton in the other and let byrd/boggs (does he play CF?)/borbon play CF and murphy be your backup at the OF positions
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sorry...
but at this point, you have to both assume and plan for Hamilton being out 2 months.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm really getting tired...
of Padilla’s act. What happens if Elvis is hurt on that slide by Teix? Or how about if that pitch up and in to Nellie does hit him in the head? Then you are without one of the crucial pieces for this team right now. And why? All because Vinny likes to throw at people. The guy is a head case. He can pitch great one night and then look like shit the next. I used to defend the guy because his stuff was so good at times that he looked like he could be a top of the rotation starter. His inconsistency though, along with his attitude, have changed that for me. He’s very expendable on this team right now imo.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
This news about Hambone maybe being out months is ruining my day.
This sucks so hard.
This is exactly what we didn’t need to happen.
Bleh!
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
its a hell of a book
maybe they will be smart and not rush him back though…
(what does the book have to do with it btw?)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was curious if Tron's Hamlove was filtered thru Josh's book or not.
Reading the book changed the way I look at Hammy a lot.
Before – Lock his azz up, we hit the jackpot! Expect the world from him!
After – Wouldn’t blame the Rangers for selling high at all or
being very cautious contractually with him. Expect inconsistency from him.
by shroomer on Jun 3, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because of the drugs, or because of the injuries?
I only read the first half or so…
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 3, 2009 1:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
book or no book
An addict is an addict. His health is a risk, his addiction is a risk, the amount of time he was away from baseball is a risk. Signing him to a big contract extension would be utterly foolish.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 1:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
any chance Hammy can borrow T.O.'s "get better chamber?"
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I thought by your logic that we should not hate Carlos Lee because of the 2 draft picks we got when he left?
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 10:16 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
thats my logic
he kept us from having to stick his fat ass out there in the OF on a daily basis
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sick of everyone arguing about who everyone should hate and who they shouldn't
just hate who you want to hate and quit judging why people are wrong or right in their hate.
Hate
by texasraider on Jun 3, 2009 10:25 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
heh
player haters ball? or time haters?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
irrational sports brain
doesn’t need explanation. sometimes you just dont like a guy.
Heck not even limited to sports. ever know someone who you just couldnt stand and you really had no reason not to like them but you just didnt?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 3, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Team first....hate second.
Listen, as far as hoping people get hit or whatever, who cares. I wouldn’t mind seeing certain people get punched in the face, but the bottom line is that if it hurts your team to plunk somebody it’s stupid to do. If you want to plunk Tex when we’re up 8 runs and there’s nobody on…
by Big50 on Jun 3, 2009 10:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
That was a winnable game
and we lost. That’s what irks me. We had a man on third and one out twice early and couldn’t bring them home. The only runs scored were on a homerun. I think people’s enthusiasm reguarding Tex getting hit twice was an attempt to find something to cheer in a game that looked to be running away from the Rangers. Is it pure idiocracy to cheer Tex getting hit twice? Sure, but I’m as guilty as anyone.
Bringing Holland in was wierd. I don’t like Holland as a long man and I question the way he’s been used recently when he’s projected to start soon. Perhaps bring Jennings in and save Holland for later in the game if it’s close?
It was a strange game all around.
by ncrangerfan on Jun 3, 2009 10:31 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I didn't get that either ... missed the game but looked at the boxscore and saw Holland pitched
I thought he was supposed to start against Boston and would be held out until then
by texasraider on Jun 3, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex and A-Rod
are two of the biggest douches in the game right now and no players and team have deserved each other more.
Do I cheer for them to get hit? Of course not. Especially with runners on the corners in a tie game.
Do I get a tremendous sense of satisfaction seeing Tex get his J Crew panties in a wad when he does get hit? Hell yes.
And Grieve had a great point – if you’re going to get mad, be a man and charge the mound. Don’t sit there and cry like a little bitch.
Of course if he did charge the mound on Padilla, I have a wicked vision of his head mounted on the grill of an orange Lamborghini, careening down a Nicaraguan highway with empty rum bottles rattling around in the back seat.
Baseball announcer utters expletive on TV broadcast to describe Hideki Irabu’s ineptitude – network gets zero complaints
by TomLovesHideki on Jun 3, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 7 recs
wrecked
for references to J-crew panties and rum bottles in Padz’ orange Lambroghini.
solid post.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know
I don’s sense near the douchiness from Arod that I do from Tex
oh and do Lambo’s have backseats?
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex a bigger d-bag than ARod?
that says a lot
by ncrangerfan on Jun 3, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
and yet
That’s how I feel, too. I always thought A-Rod was a jerk, but Tex’s douchiness knows no bounds, apparently – when you think that throwing at someone’s HEAD is appropriate retaliation for getting hit in the butt….. well, hate to break it to ya, but you’re a d-bag.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jun 3, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
This.
When Tex got hit the second time (I still think the first time was unintentional), my first thought was “dammit Padz” but then when Tex started running his mouth and TAG got all angried up? THAT was classic.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
by lisa w on Jun 3, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What did TAG say?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 3, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
x
TAG was saying that when you get hit you have two options – take your base or charge the pitcher. No point in jawing at the pitcher because obviously you aren’t mad enough to do something about it. Basically calling Tex a whiny pansy.
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, and I recall that sentiment being expressed by the entire team a year or two back
An old, good maxim.
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
well that I totally agree with. TAG is usually spot on with that stuff.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 3, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that would've been a fun fight to witness...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't wait til the next time a Ranger hitter is hit and has the same reaction...
…because of course TAG will say the exact same thing… Whoops! who am I kidding? He’ll just criticize the opposing pitcher for an unnecessary HBP and praise the Ranger hitter for expressing his displeasure.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
eh?
TAG is pretty quick to criticize the Rangers
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 3, 2009 2:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess we watch different broadcasts...
…or I’m just 1MM times more cynical than you. There’s no way Grieve would say about a Ranger batter what he said about Teixeira last night. None.
I have no objection to man walking on the moon.
by Chad Crudup on Jun 3, 2009 3:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
Tom’s like that with the pitch tracker also. But it’s okay, still like the guy.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 3:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He gives the umps credit for making the right calls too
FSN also doesn’t show the pitch tracker for them to talk about on a lot of pitches that might have gone the Rangers way.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 3, 2009 4:53 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If it was a situation where a Ranger is being a douche
like Tex, I think he would say something to get it across — just maybe not in the same tone.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 3, 2009 5:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
does he actually have a n orange lamborghini?
picture lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Evan Grant said that he not only has one,
but he also buys a new one every year.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
thats *awesome*
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Stunningly hilarious.
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wanna start partying with Vinnie
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Green it!
¡Prefiero morir de pie que vivir siempre arrodillado!
I came here to split hairs. And you?
by Chase Irwin on Jun 3, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't understand the big deal with hitting Tex
, I understand if you don’t find the absolute joy l do in hitting Tex, but the guy is one of the hottest hitters in the game, the first ab 1st base was open, and in his 2nd there was an open base, its kind of like a IBB with out throwing an extra 6 pitches, and the second one should have ended in a DP, if Andrus would have jumped instead of stepping to the side (not blaming him, I wouldn’t have thought Tex was coming in hard either). you know I dont understand all the hate on Padz, its not like his shit was getting slamed, most of the balls hit hard never went above shoulder height, I think the big story of this game is the blatant mis-management of D. Holland, either leave him in the pen or make him a starter
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 10:33 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
A Little Boys Dream
A little boy wakes up at 8 am with great anticipation as he looks out his window at the beautiful morning not a cloud in the sky. He runs down stairs to the kitchen asking his mom when they are leaving. The dad smirks over his first cup of coffee of the morning. This is the little boys very first time going to see a Major League Baseball game.
All morning the little boy is giddy with anticipation going over his baseball cards mesmerized by his heroes that he watches every Saturday morning. Getting dressed in his favorite team colors putting his baseball glove on and taking it off repeatedly, if he closes his eyes and tries really hard he can almost smell the fresh cut grass, taste his very first ballpark hot dog and hear the words “Play Ball!”
As the boy and his parents get into the famil car to go to the ballpark his father turns and asks the boy if he has everything he needs ticking off hat and glove. The son replies with a resounding YES! The car starts and their off! The boy asks if they can listen to the radio because the pre-game show was on. It seemed like it was taking forever to get there they passed road after road, a shopping mall, a gas station and some more shops. It seemed endless and of course they stopped at every red light. Finally he looked up as the car slowed, he saw it! The Ballpark that he so longed to go to. The were finally in the parking lot.
Walking up towards the gate the dad hands his son his very own ticket to give to the ticket taker at the gate. The boys eyes lit up as the giddiness returned from earlier in the morning. Finally it is the boys turn in line to give his ticket to the person at the gate, he slowly hands it to the person and exclaims that this is his very first fame! As they sit down the boy hears the best words and liittle boy could ever hear the umpire shouts “Play Ball!” The little boy sat there and watched the entire game some time cheering and crying at the same time as his heroes struck out or scored a run. As the game came to an end he looked up ant the scoreboard in center field and the final score read Rangers 5 Yankees 12. As the father took the hand of his son walking down the tunnel the little boy turns around one last time to see the field, he smiles. Ti’s time to go home.
As they are walking out to the car the little boy looks up at his father and says, “Fuck the Yankees and fuck Brett Gardner!” The father smiles….
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
very nice
….it brought a tear to my throat and a lump to my eye.
by jcAustin on Jun 3, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
^^^What he said^^^
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 3, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Every child should be raised just like that
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 3, 2009 12:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Worried about Hamilton being hurt? Why?
Since he was doing almost nothing, its not like his production is going to be missed or anything.
Also you know you suck ass when people consider a 0-4 day with “good contact” as progress. I wish I had that benefit at my job.
Hate the Yankees because they are not a team, they are a corporation of purchased pieces of talent, winning a world series would just feel empty.
I love how Rangers fans are pumped about leading the division, when every team that we might face in the first series of the playoffs is BEATING THE FUCK OUT OF US.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 3, 2009 10:46 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
well we haven't had a completely healthy team
playing well together yet at the same time…save for the Cleveland series to start the year, I suppose…so that’s encouraging
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the funniest thing about it
was Teixeira yelling at Padilla. Come on Mark, whaddya gonna do? Charge the mound? Ha! Nah, you’ll have your pitcher fight your fight for you, “tough guy”.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
by SteveP on Jun 3, 2009 10:50 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT Stuff
The Rangers are now ahead of the Angels in PECOTA-adjusted playoff odds. They actually were a few days ago, but this is the first chance I’ve had to come by here and point that out. It was actually a much bigger difference until the last two games (obviously).
Also, I’m seeing a lot of Rangers hats out here. Far more than I saw last time. I probably see at least one a day. And one of my training videos included a kid wearing a Rangers hat.
by philkid3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:52 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
x
I too am noticing a million % increase in Rangers gear out there. Not only that, but when I wear a jersey or whatever out, way more people are either saying something like, “Go Rangers!” or asking me if they won that day. My mind is already BLOWN.
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't know why it bugs me,
but I don’t like when people ask me if the Rangers won. If they really cared, wouldn’t they know? It’s like elevator talk, which usually gets a minimal ‘yes/no’ answer from me. I’m a Rangers snob.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I ask people if they won.
Because I work all day in a place where I don’t have access to such information.
Sorry.
by philkid3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
I’m talking about people on the ‘streets’ of Dallas. Or even local friends of mine.
Your situation sucks, and I’d probably give too much info on the game.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
by scoop16 on Jun 3, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It does suck.
I like when they play on the west coast so I can watch Game Day on my phone.
by philkid3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:11 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I could care less.
I’m driving this GD bandwagon. Welcome aboard, everyone in the State! There’s still room!
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im ready for the mid?-season PECOTA update
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA-adjusted playoff odds -
ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ.
Keep the errors committed and walks allowed down. Make sure the starters average as close to 6 IP/ game as possible and get on base much more.
The scoreboard and standings will take care of themselves.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
didnt you use pecota as one of the things that
made your prediction “worthwhile/valid”
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes, he did.
Constantly.
But now, as it goes against his earlier statements, I guess PECOTA can simply be summarily ignored.
by FuturePants on Jun 3, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well no one takes it at 100% bestthingever!!!!!!!!1
but its def worthwile to look at
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:32 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
PECOTA can be useful in formulating some opinions
on the Great Game although they’re having a tough year with a lot of things concerning the Rangers this year.
Do you really need PECOTA to tell you what the Ranger playoff chances v. the Angels are this year?
If you do, you’re a fucking idiot.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why?
their chances are not good (historically)
that said im not smart enough to calculate our playoff odds compared to the rangers PECOTA projections and everything else included this year…
As the title says, the post-season odds report was compiled by running a Monte
Carlo simulation of the rest of the season one million times. Current wins,
losses and expected winning percentages are taken from the Adjusted
Standings Report.
Expected winning percentages (EWP) for each team starts with their W3 and L3
from the Adjusted Standings. A regression is applied to derive the EWP for the
rest of the season, which is going to be between the current winning
percentage and .500. To allow for uncertainty in the EWP, a normal
distribution centered on the EWP is randomly sampled, and that value is used
for the remainder of the season in that iteration. To simulate the normal 4%
home-field advantage, the home team gets a .020 point bonus, while the
visitors take a 0.020 penalty. The likelihood of winning each game is
determined by the log5 method.
At least, that’s how it works in the regular version. For this, PECOTA
adjusted version, the regression isn’t done to the mean (.500), but rather to
the PECOTA projection made at the beginning of the year (numbers which can be
found here).
fwiw:
PECOTA adjusted:
rangers – 42.73163
angels – 39.88192
regular odds:
rangers – 65.16771
angels – 28.79531
ELO
rangers – 59.52232
ange;s – 41.05169
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
link to odds:
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/ps_odds.php
and reports
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 2:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
after reading EG's game story
teix comes across as even more of a dbag…
i wonder if he would have blasted clements for being a head hunter? or pedro?
i doubt he would have said a damn thing
also, throwing up and in (at head/helmet) is chickenshit no matter hwo its done. if your gonna hit someone, hit them in the ribs/back/ass — dont throw at someones head
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
but then again
expecting class from teix is something we know isnt going to happen lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
exactly
he talks about playing the game the right way, but has no problem with someone getting a ball at their head?
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
by rentz on Jun 3, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
well of course thats pay back
…i wonder if this same way he feels about pedro or clements?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell yeah...
just so we could DFA his ass all over again!
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Does Tex actually think Padilla understands him?
Jawing at Padilla is like jawing at Helen Keller. The only language he speaks is vengeance.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
by willamos2 on Jun 3, 2009 11:30 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
huh?
How could anyone ever think TIVO is better than Boobs? Are you insane?
"You'll meet them again on their long journey to the middle." -Lester Bangs
by BAC on Jun 3, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 3, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
boobs are not inventions, you can't patent them
by Telegraph on Jun 3, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
did Abner Doubleday patent baseball?
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
by willamos2 on Jun 3, 2009 1:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
i can't imagine a world without TiVO
there would be bodies in the streets.
Without boobs, life would go on although it would be much less enjoyable.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
by willamos2 on Jun 3, 2009 1:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
His signature is quite possibly the best this blog has ever seen
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is it referring to boobs?
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have a feeling it's about to get pretty messy fast.
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 11:32 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I want to see this team slop it up in June, just to level things out around here
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
blasphemer
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
by NothinG on Jun 3, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am with you OC
Everybody on this team is getting a pass right now.
Daddy simply will not stand for it.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 3, 2009 12:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other than that, Mrs. Kennedy,
how did you like Dallas? This is what I though while reading Adam’s post.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 12:03 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
kneejerk wednesday is more like it
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
by Longhorn on Jun 3, 2009 12:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I fail to see how a player deserves credit (or blame) for the quality of the return when he is traded
I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.
"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales
by Brian Thomas on Jun 3, 2009 12:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Not sure I understand that argument either.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I dont understand your argument AJM
Fans are booing Tex and A-Rod because of the way they handled themselves while they were here. It doesnt matter whether or not they brought in a cache of young talent. they are good players and usually (exempt JD’s early mishaps) bring a return of good talent.
i will cont. to boo tex and a-rod because i dislike them. Tex did not leave so that he could help the rangers out. he left bc all he cares about is money
by Hot Stuff on Jun 3, 2009 12:41 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
and it's not like I would applaud Teixeira for bringing in the wealth of talent
he had NOTHING to do with it other than being a guy who obviously didn’t want to be here.
What does booing him have to do with what the Rangers got in the trade?
by texasraider on Jun 3, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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