An Off-Topic Mavs question
And I'm going to make it after the jump, so all of you who say "why are we talking about (NBA/NFL/anything other than baseball) on a baseball blog???" can ignore it...
Last year, there was discussion on LSB about how the Mavs could have bought a late first round pick for $3 million, but the consensus from a lot of folks here was that that was too much and they were better off not spending the money.
This year, the Mavs have a late first rounder. If another team is willing to offer them $3 million for that pick, shouldn't the Mavs take the money and trade away the pick, under that same logic?
If not, why not?
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the Mavericks should sell the pick, take the money and just Bribe David Stern with it, as he is the one who dictates the winners and losers.
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winners and losers
Well he didn’t get the Lakers vs Cavs finals he wanted. Unless you believe in the LeBron/Knicks conspiracy.
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according to D.A. Tron, deep, deep down, David Stern really wanted a clean cut untattooed center like Howard in the finals and King James just had to wait his turn until he was out of Cleveland and in a real media market.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
i think they should trade it away
if they can’t land Lawson.
I’d rather see Cuban use his money in trades.
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Lawson may very well be available to the Mavs
word is he’s short, out of shape and injury prone
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by TomLovesHideki on Jun 3, 2009 1:33 PM CDT up reply actions
you
can’t add more than 3 million in cash to any individual trade, so even if the mavs made several trades with cash considerations included they would not exactly be breaking the bank
i think Cuban has an idea of what he wants to spend in a given season
and i think he would conscientiously use that money saved from selling the draft pick (not to mention the salary he would save by not paying the 1st round pick) towards trades (both in terms of acquiring salary and in terms of putting cash into deals to facilitate their completion).
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If someone like Lawson or Jeff Teague is available, then keep the pick
There’s quite a few intriguing names in this draft that I wouldn’t mind taking a shot on. Either way, the offseason will rest on how Cuban can move the contracts of Stackhouse and/or Damp. Stacks is quite appealing to many teams.
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Stack got old fast.
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by inactive lsb user on Jun 3, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions
Indeed he did.
Funny how he led the league in scoring one year.
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The questions is does that $3Million add back to the salary cap?
Or are we still in the same position as we are know? Mavs are very tight when it comes to budget for they are over the cap already and Cuban is paying quite a bit in the luxury cap. Does the $3M help us in that area?? If not, then i dont think the money is used to get a FA other than just put in Cubans pocket. So i say no, draft a decent player, sign him for cheap and then see what you get.
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idiot, if we still have all the other contracts then no it wont take money off the cap, it will just give Cuban money to pay the luxury cap bill so he can afford to go over it a lil more if the right trade came along, but I say do it if your going to have another shit pick like we have had for the last 4 years and save some money
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 1:44 PM CDT up reply actions
no
Orlando got Courtney Lee with the 22nd pick last draft, so there is value in the early twenties. Besides the 3 mil we would get would only pad Cuban’s wallet, it is not like that money lowers our cap number.
that $3M could be included in a trade though
to help facilitate a deal
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do you trust Donnie
to not pick a euro stiff? or some other piece of trash that we will cut 5 weeks down the road
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions
hey
he always will have one pretty damn big feather in his cap from picking some euro stiff…
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As a Spurs fan, I see one fundamental problem with the Mavs keeping this late first round pick, or trading it for that matter. Is their front office good enough to make a smart pick there or spend the money wisely elsewhere? I’m not sure Nellie can get the job done for you guys. Of course the Spurs FO did not have a good year…so maybe I have no room to talk.
Cuban owns the Mavs not Hicks
I would have a problem with Cuban selling draft picks when he has the money and the team needs to get younger. I have no problem with Cuban spending his money to acquire good young players. I especially would like them to buy a top 5 draft pick like they did with Deven Harris. Maybe they can get Rubio the Spanish PG.
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I'd really like to get Rubio,
but isn’t he expected to go 2-3? Be hard to move that high.
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we arent getting rubio
even if we somehow moved into the top 5 and he screamed at the world to not draft him he’d still probably get taken before us
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I have always believed that
teams/owners really dont take enough advantage of the draft picks for sale phenomenon. Hell, buy a late first rounder, draft a foreign guy and stash him overseas. maybe he develops into something, maybe he doesnt. I think it is worth the gamble. Also, there is always that big slider that falls into the early to mid 20s.
The Spurs built a solid core on late 1st round picks
Of course, having Tim Duncan to build around helps.
They should keep the pick, go for a rebounding, hustling Euro-type.
That's why they call them business sox
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KG: Oh yeah.
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Donnie sucks at identifying talent, so it probably wasn't worth it.
It probably is worth hoping he gets lucky, though.
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The reasoning behind trading that pick for the cash this year
would be: A) we’ve got a full lineup now and B) there isn’t a player available with that pick that has the ability to either help out now or develop into a Bynum-like starter in the future.
The problem with trading this year’s pick at 22 is that we need the help, and there are plenty of names out there (very deep draft through the end of the 1st/beginning of the 2nd rounds) that could possibly have a big impact on the team as early as next year and certainly in the future as they develop. I am personally hoping we land Ty Lawson or Terrence Williams for immediate impacts, and I’m somewhat intrigued by Omri Casspi and Jrue Holiday for a project player. Sam Young, Darren Collison and Dionte Christmas are also players I wouldn’t mind ending up with.
Last year, we could’ve moved up to take DeAndre Jordan, Mario Chalmers or Luc Richard Mbah a Moute, all of whom could’ve helped out as early as last year; or we could’ve moved up for Chris Douglas-Roberts, who I believe could’ve been a good fit, too.
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Move Up?
Why not spend $3M to buy a late 1st round pick, then package it with #22 and move up to say #15 if there is a player there that you like be it Lawson, Evans, Teague, whoever?
Because there's a solid chance you can get one of those
at 22.
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by 3k on Jun 3, 2009 3:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Right....
But I meant for a specific player, I was just throwing names out there. What if Cuban/Donnie love Evans, and he falls to 14 or 15 but they’re positive he won’t get to #22?
take Lawson or Williams instead
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by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
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There is talk that Donnie doesn't see anything he likes at #22
which bugs me as much as them not thinking it was worth picking anyone late in the first last year, for a roster with like seven good players.

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