Rangers looking to dump Padilla
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 2:29 PM CDT
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PrintEvan Grant writes that the Rangers have put Vicente Padilla on outright waivers. I am guessing this is in the hope that some team claims him and takes on his whole salary...Grant indicates that the Rangers are in the market to try to make some moves to add to their roster, but they have to clear salary first, because of the ownership situation.
So I'm guessing that if anyone wants Padilla, or possibly Hank Blalock, for free, they can have him, and the Rangers would dump one or both of those guys so that they could try to go after someone later in the year.
It is unfortunate that we're in a situation where the Rangers can't add salary without shedding salary, given that the team's payroll is already pretty low to start with...but on the plus side, it looks like Tom Hicks won't be owning the team much longer anyway, and hopefully, whoever buys from him will have the cash flow that will allow him to maintain a more respectable payroll.
UPDATE -- As a point of clarification, the way I read this is NOT that the Rangers are releasing him...rather, it is that they are putting him on waivers in the hopes that someone will claim him. If he goes unclaimed, then the Rangers would keep him, the same way they would with all the players that get put on waivers on August 2 of each year that go unclaimed.
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Knew it was coming in some form
but wow…
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
AMF
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
that was my thought...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 2:43 PM CDT up reply actions
Hicks
A terrible, terrible owner. I have no idea how he made all of that money in the first place.
"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley
come on down to the rangers version of competing for a pennant!!!!!!!
we’re up by 4.5 games and everything must go! thats right everything!
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
Are the Rangers in on Pedro Martinez?
I’m not exactly inspired by this rotation: Millwood, McCarthy, Holland, Harrison, Feldman.
I don't think it's an amazing rotation
but it’s just fine. and bringing in a Pedro or some other starter that isn’t a sure-thing Ace or # 2 would unfortunately bump Harrison or McCarthy…which I don’t think is good for their development.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
I wouldn't be against bumping Harrison to AAA or Holland to the bullpen.
Pedro might not be what he once was, but I’m still interested.
At this point their development is not the most important thing
What is more important is can the Rangers win this year? If so, they need the best possible 1-2-3 rotation for the playoffs. Holland and Harrison are not at that level yet, so moving them out may help the team. Let them develop at AAA as long as the team has a legitimate shot at the playoffs
If I recall correctly
this is just a procedural move to find interest around the league. If a team claims him then the Rangers pull him back off waivers and make a deal with the claiming team. Same tjhing happens in August after the trade deadline.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Except...
…if there’s interest around the league, the Rangers can just call around and find out. They don’t have to put Padilla on waivers to find out if a team is interested in him.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
This really doesn't mean anything.
My understanding is that many players are put on waivers this time of year, and that it’s only a sort of advertisement to say they’re available for the right package.
They may not release him
but they can’t pull him back if anyone claims him, right? They lose him for the price of his contract if I understand things.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I think they can pull him back
I’m not positive, though.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 2:35 PM CDT up reply actions
Yes, i think so too.
That’s the way TAG described it anyway. If the Rangers are willing to let him go for just the price of his current salary though, they won’t pull him back and the claiming team will be stuck with him, at least that’s how i understand it.
I don't understand this at all.
They don’t have to run him through waivers to trade him, do they? They only have to run him through waivers if they want to release him, or if they want to trade him after the July deadline, unless they are running him through waivers now for August?
I don’t recall this happening.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
x
They don’t have to run him through waivers to trade him, do they?
Nope.
They only have to run him through waivers if they want to release him, or if they want to trade him after the July deadline, unless they are running him through waivers now for August?
They are putting him on waivers to see if someone will claim him and take his salary, I suspect.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 2:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I wonder
if maybe JD has already talked to someone (Kenny Williams? The Mets GM?) and been told, “hey, we’ll take him, but we aren’t giving you anything back”… and that deal is probably the best deal JD can get.
and if two (or more) teams have told JD "we'll take him for nothing"
now JD can leverage that into maybe getting some return for him.
I’d imagine that at least a couple teams would take him for his salary, so perhaps JD can get a decent prospect from whichever team wants him the most.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
what happened
was a team said we’d take him but you have to pay some of the salary. If they had said what you said that would be the same as claiming him now.
No
If that was true, they would trade him for a player to be named later, and then send some junk minor leaguer that the Rangers immediately released. Or they can trade him for an undisclosed cash amount. Like 2 bits.
Thats what I thought
you don’t get revocable waivers til August. As I understand things, if he is claimed, he is gone.
This is like what Manny Ramirez was put on by Boston, right?
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I'm not sure about Ramirez.
In Padilla’s case, if he’s claimed he’s gone. If he’s not, he’s still a Ranger. The question is how will this affect his attitude and/or his next start if he’s not claimed.
I’m not sure I believe that this is motivated by payroll concerns.
List all of the teams that would have interest in Padilla:
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 2:37 PM CDT up reply actions
let him go for nothing once already...
when he was better
by sam in so cal on Jun 3, 2009 3:31 PM CDT up reply actions
gotta think the price is too high for them
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
STL Cardinals
If I’m the Cardinals I claim him. Their rotation is banged up, and they have the magic pitching guru in Duncan. Cards claim him, he goes 15-1 the rest of the year and they make the World Series.
Padilla starts game 1 against the Yankees, Tex comes up third, and Padilla drills him for old times sake.
i think they might claim him
def in the conversation
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
No way.........
My Cardinals are looking to add a bat. They currently have the best ERA in MLB. Will that last? I doubt it. But the problems with the team right now are that they are getting ZERO from whomever they are playing at 3rd base. Glaus isn’t coming back.
The Cards might be in on Blalock, Beltre, Atkins, or DeRosa. But don’t hold your breath on them taking Padilla and his salary. And his baggage.
good news
brett wallace is on the horizon
oh, wait they would rather have those guys at 3b now… nevermind
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Wallace is a stud........
But they want a proven bat to add to the mix for 2009. Also, I think Wallace still needs some time to work on his defense at 3rd base.
hate to break this to you
but his defense isnt going to get any better at 3b
just like chris davis isnt going to turn into evan longoria by getting PT at AAA
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
You are probably right
But his natural position is well-manned in STL, so they have to try something. He was drafted 12 months ago, so they are trying to avoid rushing him too much.
avoid rushing him
why — he is a polished hitter, from a major college program — its not like hes john mayberry jr
they need to just call him up and let him play every day lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Holy Shit!
We have a bonafide MLB Owner posting here!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
holy crap we have another fan who been unknowingly schlepped by the owners and leagues
into allowing for the disconnect between club and fan. These people are easily identified by the following lines:
“Oh, so its your club huh, you own it?”
or
“Its a franchise, not a club”
The answer you give those blind to the scheme for ever empowerment of a league at the expense of the club and fan are to be given one response:
“Owners will come and go, Stadiums with GM’s will come and go, Coaches will come and go, Players will come and go, the one constant in any club that is successful is the fan. With us, there is no rich player, no well paid coach, no stadium funded by our tax dollar to hold us all and allow the owner to rake his profits.”
“…but youre right, other than that, it is his club”
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
We'd happily trade
Blalock for one of your spare outfielders… but the Cards are looking for a RH 3B, and should go get DeRosa like yesterday.
Atlanta
The back of their rotation stinks, and Glavine is hurt
That's why they call them business sox
and medein
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
I think Atlanta
needs OF help more than a starter right now, but who knows.
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and JJ Hoover
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Rivera and Padilla on the same team ..
yes, please. They’d tear each other to bits in the clubhouse. That’s the problem with Padilla. He’s pissed off too many players.
Signature! I don't need no stinking signature!!
I'd think that Nats
would be saving money to sign a #1 and #10 pick instead of paying a pitcher that isn’t part of their long term plan.
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of all these teams
who needs pitching more than texas?
by sam in so cal on Jun 3, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm guessing
he goes unclaimed.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
the red sox did this w/ manny a few years bac IIRC
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Hopefully someone takes him
Wouldn’t surprise me if Young or Kinsler or somebody went to JD and told him to do something about Padilla after his shit last night.
Jeff Zimmerman for President.
Did you see Kinsler and Wash
talking animatedly on the mound when Wash pulled Padilla. I wonder if Kinsler didn’t state his opinion right then and there.
i noted this in the gameday thread, but no one confirmed:
If my memory serves me right, Padilla handed the ball to Salty and started for the dugout before Wash even got to the mound. Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t it typical for the pitcher to hand the ball to the manager? Seemed disrespectful.
Ask CJ Wilson...
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
I didn't see that part
I just noticed the conversation on the mound after he left.
I avoid the gameday threads, they scare me. ;-)
I believe it is...
To the point that Oddibee made, perhaps Kinsler was pissed as well because Tex being angry about the HBP almost got his SS killed in clean but hard baseball play.
Just went back and watched
he waited for wash and handed the ball to him before walking off… nothing foul there.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on Jun 3, 2009 3:59 PM CDT up reply actions
This is all good news
shedding Padilla, possibly Hank, and Tom Hicks. It must be my birthday. Then again, who will be left to hate?
That's why they call them business sox
That's a double edges sword
Sure i understand getting rid of him but be careful what you wish for…
Jeff Zimmerman for President.
Can't believe
you’d get rid of Blalock until CD is hitting.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
unless you got a 1B or DH back in a Padilla deal?
what about a Sheffield?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 2:45 PM CDT up reply actions
uhh no thanks
not in a mlllion years
id rather run andruw out there at 1b every day
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
He's fools gold
He’s an injury waiting to happen, a defensive liability, and can’t hit lefties.
That's why they call them business sox
In limited PA's over the last 2 season..
I think he actually had a higher OPS vs. lefties than righties. Don’t hold me to that though.
It would be incredibly dumb to dump Blalock
especially with Josh out and Davis drowning.
I wonder if the Angels would pick up Padlla?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
It would be sad
In that he never reached his massive potential. The guy will never be more than a left-handed DH, and defensive replacement at 1b. He’s still great against RH, but he’s almost a sure out against tough lefties. Shed him like a snake sheds his skin.
That's why they call them business sox
Blalock has picked up nearly 30 points in OBP over
the last 10 days and is a loud 9 for his last 24.
In the first inning last night with one out and Face on 3B, he went the other way and hit a linedrive right at Jeter.
Now, more than ever, we need Hank Blalock.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
As I stated above
He’s fools gold: injury prone, defensive liability, first-pitch hacker, can’t hit lefties. He always does this. He’ll show glimpses of the player he was, and then he’ll either go cold or back to the DL. Maybe we can sell high on him for a decent reliever.
That's why they call them business sox
so basically
hes the hitting version of edwin jackson?
he is a guy that could def make the rangers regret letting him go for little or nothing in my mind — maybe he just needs a change of scenery?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
He also has a career obp of close to .340
is on pace to hit 40 bombs this year and is also in a contract year.
I don’t exactly know why so many different Rangers have much lower obp’s than in the past but given where the Rangers are right now with Hamilton & Davis, this team cannot get rid of Blalock simply because of his salary.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Wasnt that
the Barry Goldwater slogan in 1964? Yes, I’m older than dirt
by BEW on Jun 3, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions
So what could we possibly expect to get back in a trade
for Padilla if there are multiple contenders interested: a reliever and a prospect? a DH and a prospect?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Uh, probably nothing
You get someone to take the $8 million off your hands, and you can expect to get back a big bag of nothing.
Or, you can take someone else’s bad contract off their hands. B
To the Red Sox for Mike Lowell
They could start him every time they play the Yankees, let him plunk Tex in the ass then pull him for that day’s scheduled starter.
by robert_d_wilfong on Jun 3, 2009 5:49 PM CDT up reply actions
I think
if he is claimed, the Rangers will just get salary relief.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
right.
I was referring to the unlikely but possible scenario where a few teams are in on him for whatever reason
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions
Padilla doesn't seem like the type that will be
positively motivated by this news.
Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball
positively motivated to go get another DWI?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
might be a goner
If he was placed on outright waivers AND the site linked below is correct, then he might be a goner.
Outright waivers are not revocable, so a player claimed on outright waivers may not be pulled back by his original club
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Basically, he's been DFA'd
If I understand outright waivers correctly, Padilla has thrown his last pitch as a Ranger. The thing is, even if someone claims him, the Rangers still are on the hook for his salary. So that doesn’t add up… maybe he isn’t really on outright, just revocable?
When a player in the middle of a guaranteed contract is claimed on waivers, the claiming club pays $20,000 and a pro-rated portion of the league minimum salary, with the original club remaining responsible for paying the rest of the money due under the contract.
if that's true,
then this move doesn’t make any sense… unless something pretty serious happened in the clubhouse last nite that we haven’t heard about yet.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Agree
wonder if Face hurt his hand again last night?
or if Andruw hurt somebody else's face again?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions
Maybe
Padilla hopped in his Lamborghini, downed three bottles of rum, and started doing donuts in the outfield of Yankee Stadium…
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
that would make him a hero in my book...
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Being able to consume that much rum
without being in a coma would indeed be remarkable.
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Maybe he pulled a Costanza
and put on Babe Ruth’s uniform and ate a jelly donut
by BEW on Jun 3, 2009 3:46 PM CDT up reply actions
I'm sure something happened...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:06 PM CDT up reply actions
No
If he clears waivers, he stays on the team.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Right, like Manny with the Sox
but then what is the point?
If someone claims him, the Rangers still pay his salary.
If someone doesn’t claim him, you have a ticked-off Padilla in the clubhouse.
So…. why?
If someone claims him
the claiming team pays his salary.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
not what i remembered
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
No
If someone claims him, that team pays his salary.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 3:05 PM CDT up reply actions
Got a source for that?
Here is what I am going by, it may be wrong:
I think it's wrong:
This is what Wikipedia says:
do nothing and allow the claiming team to (1) assume the player’s existing contract, (2) pay the waiving team a waiver fee, and (3) place the player on its active major league roster.
That is not an outright waiver
What you’re saying is reasonable, but is not the definition of “Outright Waivers”, which is what EG’s article says.
I have a feeling he isn’t really on “Outright” waivers.
another link
This sound right.
Outright Waivers – Outright waivers are irrevocable. The player cannot be "pulled back" by his current organization, so if you are awarded the claim – his services and contract are yours. If the claim takes place in-season, the player must be placed on your 25-man roster when he reports to your Club. If it’s the off-season he must be placed on the 40-man roster immediately. The waiver claim price is $20,000. ($25,000 for a Rule 5 or draft-excluded player)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
won loss record
determines who gets the player if their are multiple claims.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Is a ticked off Padilla
any different than the current Padilla?
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maybe the back-to-back 1 hitters
were a ticked off Padilla?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:08 PM CDT up reply actions
In a fit of anger, he will throw nothing but changeups and slider for his next start
which causes to the unintended side effect of improving his breaking pitches, leading to better performances during the remainder of the season
outright waivers doesn't make sense
If EG is correct in that they want to shed Padilla’s salary before pursuing help via trade, then they would have to place him on Revocable Major League Waivers. But I am not sure they can do that in June.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
It's definitely interesting, the message being sent.
When he beaned Teixeira again last night, I kept thinking “That kind of shit just doesn’t fit with how this team is playing.”
I could see that shit coming from the 06 or 07 Rangers. Not this team though.
Especially when
Teixeira then goes hard into 2B on the DP. Padilla was putting the franchise SS at risk. Losing Andrus for the season would hurt the Rangers much more then losing Padilla.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
And then Nelson Cruz gets a fastball thrown at his head
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
Given that Tex took out Elvis
and Cruz had one thrown at his nugget.
We’re even now.
No?
I'm Ron Burgundy?
yeah, vaguely worded.
“But they don’t” = Not every player hustles to take out the SS on a double play opp.
When a player gets drilled and goes to first, the only way for them to “Payback” the pitcher is to take out the SS (or 2B). He took out the pivot man, hence he’s paid back the team that drilled him.
In my book, they’re even.
I'm Ron Burgundy?
no it wasn't...
clean? maybe… acceptable? no thanks, Ty Cobb.
"Dear dumb ass folowers of FSMism,
There have been a lot of weird things that i have seen in my life before, but this tops them all. Do you really believe that there is/was such a thing as a flying spaghetti monster? Seriously, how fucking old are you? I know there’s such a thing as freedom of speech and expression, but this kinda shit should be banned. Theres is only one God and one Holy Word. Why dont you people get that? How much sense does it make to say that decreasing numbers of pirates lead to an increase in average global temperature? Is that science or some fifth grader trying to sound smart?"
–Sincerly,
ANONYMOUS
The Church of The Flying Spaghetti Monster (http://www.venganza.org/)
Not until Burnett gets put on waivers.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
It'd be interesting for Padilla to end up with an NL club
and have to bat.
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Yep, some accountability.
It would really interesting to end up with the Mets, they probably play the Yanks later this year, correct?
Does he have more value in one league or the other?
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 3:00 PM CDT up reply actions
I just meant
the pitcher with the most hit batsmen over the last several seasons having to bat.
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And I am adding on to this topic: bat withstanding, is Padilla more valuable to a NL team than an AL team?
I know I wouldn’t want to deal him to an AL team. I wouldn’t want him to pitch against this team for the rest of the year
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Good point
I wouldn’t want to face him, though you’d have to think any ump would be pretty ready to toss him if they thought he was going after the Rangers.
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Padilla
He’d been an NL pitcher his whole career before joining the Rangers, so I don’t know that having to bat would discourage him that much.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
to him, it's just another weapon...
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
does anyone think that the rangers are a playoff caliber team with a rotation of
millwood
mccarthy
feldman
harrison
holland
+ benson?
+ doug mathis?
+ feliz?
i mean…really? thats a rotation that has almost 0 chance of all those guys finishing the year all (other than millwood) with career highs in innings pitched, so fading down the strech as well as HUGE injury possiibilities because of the players involved and the fact that they will all have huge inning pitched…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
No
But I think that’s the point of dumping Padilla’s salary- so the Rangers have the ability to get a veteran replacement.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
like who?
pedro? do you really think pedro adds that much to this team?
freddy garcia?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Ben Sheets
he’s been surprisingly silent since he visited that doctor.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
oo
goodp oint
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
yeah, but he's notoriously hopeful
and loves Oswalt. I don’t think he’ll sell until it’s painfully obvious they can’t win. They came from way back to get a wild card a couple of years ago, so to McClane it’s probably not nearly over yet.
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at what price?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
Oswalt?
Didn’t the ‘Stros pull out of a proposed Oswalt trade to (Baltimore?), when they found out that Oswalt would then be flipped to the Rangers? Seems like McClane doesn’t want Oswalt to end up here.
this did happen
dont remember deal but yea
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Oswalt has a no-trade clause
what makes you think he’ll come to the Rangers in the AL
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
add the possibility of Sheets
while not likely, it’s out there.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:12 PM CDT up reply actions
I like Padilla
but I find myself thinking sometimes (especially in games like last night) that he doesn’t really give a rat’s ass about what his actions mean for the rest of the team. He hits a guy because he’s pissed, and now everyone else has to stand around in the field longer. He takes eighteen years between pitches with runners on, and guys start to lose their focus.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
If someone claimed Padilla
then I would definitely start thinking about getting one of Cliff Lee, Roy Oswalt or Jake Peavy
NO to all three
None of them are going to be cheap and I’m not looking for just one year in October.
and Peavy won't go to the AL
unless it’s probably Boston or NY
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Why not on Cliff Lee
He’s under team control for a year and a half, he’s only 30, and outside of his initial 2 starts has been unconscious this season.
Kanye, you want to be the voice of this generation? Get in line! It goes me, Obamagirl, the Freecreditreport.com guys, then It's a tie between you-and Crocs.
-Stephen Colbert
So the question is..
If he goes unclaimed, what happens next?
I don’t think Padilla would be thrilled about it, and if the team isn’t happy with him, I’m sure that will be a very uncomfortable situation/clubhouse.
After this (and last night), I can't imagine him coming back to the club
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 3, 2009 3:04 PM CDT up reply actions
bullpen
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 3:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Does anyone think the Rangers
Are about to make a big trade? I think this is a pre cursor to a big trade. I think JD see’s an opportunity this year and he is going to take a shot.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
I hope not
Big trade would involve key prospects. We should stick with the status quo. I’d rather have multiple years of success over 1.
I see this more as the Sidney Ponson move of 2009.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
exactly
I think this situation will play out very similarly, with the difference being that Padilla isn’t as notorious as Ponson and is costing more money, so they are going to hope someone steps up and grabs him first.
I bet if no one claims him he’ll be released.
Go Rice Owls!
I would think a rebuilding team would take a look...
Pray that he pitches well for you until July, and send him off for prospects (if possible).
Could this just be the precursor
to clearing payroll needed to sign Sheets after the draft?
Get PAdilla moved, keep Harrison, McCarthy, Holland, Feldman and Millwood in the rotation for the year and let Sheets rehab under team supervision.
Sheets
was there ever any report of his latest medicals? There has been no report of him starting to throw. I don’t see Sheets as being a player this year given the lack of baseball activity.
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Ben Sheets
like the Great Pumpkin, is not coming to Texas this season.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
his surgery is the same surgery Jennings had twice
and Jennings has just now return to form in the bullpen for 1 inning at a time every 3 or 4 days.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Do you people not understand
NO one will trade for Padilla, we are willing to give him away for FREE, because we are trying to get rid of his salary, There WON’T be a Padilla trade just a release or claim, the only way there would be a trade if someone would want to dump some salary in return for taking Padilla and it doesn’t look like we are interested in that. BRING on Pedro and Sheets
???
I’ve read a dozen trade proposal’s on in this thread, Padilla for Sheffield, Padilla for random Mets or Atlanta reliever and so on and so on
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:14 PM CDT up reply actions
Jesus - read for a second
I believe we all understand that the Rangers are just shedding payroll. The question becomes – what next? Do the Rangers trade for someone and if so, who?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Sir
you read for a minute, I was talking about the people throwing around Padilla trades, why would someone give up a prospect for Padilla (which it looks like thats all we would take financially) if they can have him without giving up anything
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:19 PM CDT up reply actions
OT: did you go to the A's game on Saturday? Third-base line?
Wearing a backwards baseball cap, shades?
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 3:21 PM CDT up reply actions
no why?
fyi my tix are on the 1st base line
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:23 PM CDT up reply actions
Because I sat a row above that guy and wanted to let him know that his wife/girlfriend has a wandering eye
by oc on Jun 3, 2009 3:25 PM CDT up reply actions 3 recs
wow
kind of personal and douchey for a baseball blog, but my tix are in section 238 row 6 anytime you want to man up come see me bitch
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:27 PM CDT up reply actions
this is getting interesting...
probably a good thing I haven’t met up with anybody from here
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 5:38 PM CDT up reply actions
I could and would kill anyone here
…without even thinking about it. And if anyone has half a brain they can figure out exactly who I am and exactly where I live.
SO COME ON MOTHERFUCKERS
haha. Just kidding (for the uptight people in case it’s not obvious enough)
by Black Francis on Jun 3, 2009 5:56 PM CDT up reply actions
Do you understand
that no one here is under the impression that Padilla would bring back much, if anything, in trade? But thanks for educating us anyway.
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why the use of such explicit language?
The use of your capital letters sir is rather rude and just down right mean. No one was yelling at you. We are all just having civil baseball conversations, no need to come here and act like this! But thats what you do isnt.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
have you ever been on a board like this before
they are used for emphasis on words you want to stick out, shouldn’t you be counting numbers, or watching that site you were telling me about at your office the other day?
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:16 PM CDT up reply actions
Wonder how EG found out about this if JD's (or his staff) is not allowed to talk about who's on waivers?
Wonder if there was an planned ‘leak?’
Sometimes it pays to be exceedingly nice to JD
in moments like these.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
all teams have access to the waiver wire
could be anybody
We will know by Friday.
If another club wishes to make a claim on the player, it must do so by 1:00 pm ET on the second business day following the day waivers were officially requested.
I'm good with this
Look, I’m all about getting rid of guys who cause problems. Besides it’s not like he’s a super stud. He’s a good pitcher who makes really bad decisions and is really inconsistent. Get rid of him, get some money to play around with. Go Rangers.
This makes perfect sense
Basically, the Rangers would probably just release Padilla, but they don’t want to be on the hook for his salary. This way, they are basically putting a couch on the sidewalk with a sign saying “FREE!” to avoid having to pay for the truck to carry it to the dump.
I don’t know why you bring up money here. I think that the Rangers (Wash, Nolan, JD) must have told Padilla before yesterday not to do something needlessly violent again like hitting Teixeira (which I’m surprised he didn’t get ejected for, in retrospect, given how obvious that was). His doing it was a big F.U. to the club, and so the team is basically trying to cut ties with him.
Go Rice Owls!
It's very funny...
…because in the Lackey game, a game where he was absolutely justified in hitting someone, he was on his best behavior.
There’s got to be more to this story.
"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009
He's a mental midget?
That’s pretty much all the “more to this story” I have gathered over his career.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
This is what I've always read as well.
Padilla has incredible stuff, but he’s always had a problem getting his head in the game.
Yeah, I think with a good head on his shoulder
His ERA here would have been closer to 4, instead of the 5 that it was as a Ranger.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Agreed.
why didn’t he do this in back-to-back 1 hitters?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 5:40 PM CDT up reply actions
"needlessly violent again"
where did the again come into play what was the last needlessly violent thing he did?
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:22 PM CDT up reply actions
so why
would they tell him that before yesterdays game, he has been pretty under control this year
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:30 PM CDT up reply actions
I'd guess
He was told before this year to cut it out. And up until now he’s been behaving.
Of course, this is all hypothetical. But it makes sense to me.
Go Rice Owls!
I dont understand the problem
with being a little unbalanced out there, some of the greatest pitchers in history pitched just like Padilla
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions
i didn't think
either one was intentional.
Man, I love winning! You know? It's like better than losing!
he can refuse that assignment
and become a free agent. I think the Rangers would still have to pay him.
No
they didn’t DFA him, they just put him on ML waivers if no one claims him nothing changes
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:26 PM CDT up reply actions
he,most likely, would be released
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
Thanks for the reminder
forgot they were on now
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Goodness knows, the Ticket won't talk about it until after 4:00...
we have to find out “What’s on Mike’s Mind”
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 3, 2009 3:29 PM CDT up reply actions
I would fully expect B&S to
veer quickly into “smoking talk” any second now.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
They skipped in.
VP talk coming now.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Shocked...and I stand corrected
Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the universe. Albert Einstein
by GhostofSteveFoucault on Jun 3, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Salty didn't stand up for VP at all,
in his postgame interview, according to Hollywood, via the NY papers.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
So
What happens?
1. Padilla and his salary get claimed and he is no longer a Ranger.
2. He doesn’t get claimed, stays in the rotation, and JD trades him before Aug. 1.
3. He doesn’t get claimed and he stays in the rotation for the remainder of the year.
4. He doesn’t get claimed and the Rangers release him.
5. ???
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Padilla for Valverde
who says no?
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Oooooooooooooh good one.
I’d say Hou does. Wouldn’t mind that trade at all from the Rangers perspective and I think Valverde sucks.
Jeff Zimmerman for President.
Why would Houston do that
when they can get him for free? Maybe to help mitigate the salaries?
Go Rice Owls!
WTF???
There had better be a (2 or more) trade partners lined up already -OR- we had better hear about some bad shit behind the scenes stuff later on. You don’t dump a veteran starter in a playoff season for nothing.
And while I’m at it, who the hell has been impressed with Holland? I am about ready for him to be sent to AAA, and now he is forced into the roto…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
well they have
Kris Benson stashed away in the bullpen. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
Exactly...
he needs to be down in OKC working on his secondary pitches.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
If he is on waivers
he ain’t being traded. Anyone who wants him can have him for his salary.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
No...
Doesn’t make a difference, another team either claims him or they don’t. There is no trade to be worked out unless he clears waivers.
yeah
but if some team were to tell Texas this week “we’ll take him, but you have to absorb some of his salary or take XXX off our hands,” then the Rangers may opt for that instead of releasing him outright.
Basically, by doing this, the Rangers are saying “you can take him if you pay his remaining salary,” it’s possible someone will prefer working something else out if no one steps up now.
Go Rice Owls!
Right...
But he has to clear waivers before that can happen. A team can’t put in a waiver claim and then try to work out a trade with the Rangers, which is what I thought you were saying.
My guess is he clears.
I’m not real strong in that conviction though.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I don't think so
first team in waiver order gets him for Salary plus a transaction fee ($20K or something nominal) I think. There is no negotiating as far as I know, and the Rangers can’t pull him off the waiver wire.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
a trade would only happen if no one claims him
so obviously Texas would have to be taking on a negative to do that (Phil Nevin for Chan Ho type deal)
Go Rice Owls!
They could make that same trade
without running him through waivers.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
This way someone MIGHT
take him and pay his full salary without Texas taking on any salary back.
1> Put him on waivers to see if anyone wants to take him and his $8 million left for free (benefit to Texas = $8 million dollars)
2> Trade him in a salary dump, bring back someone’s dead weight to offset some of his cost (benefit to Texas << $8 million dollars)
Go Rice Owls!
You're right.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I wonder
if he refused a minor league rehab assignment. I’m pretty sure its within his rights to do that.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
hadn't thought about that
but it makes sense
by blueballlefty on Jun 3, 2009 3:39 PM CDT up reply actions
I think perhaps they've pegged him
as the one salary they can dump before making some other moves. Maybe they think with his inconsistency in both performance and health, they may as well just move on? I’m struggling to find a reason to just unload a guy that just pitched a couple of great games a short time ago.
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I agree this is surprising
and you would not just dump Padilla unless something we don’t know about has happened or you have a deal in place.
As for Holland, though, I disagree. He has shown flashes of wonderfulness, and his worst outings were against a Yankees club that hammers lefties. I’ll take Holland’s learning curve over Padilla’s inconsistency — unless the only reason for dumping Padilla is him hitting batters. That would be asinine.
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more moves
if they play tonight
Madrigal to OKC, Eyre to 60 dat DL, Mathis to the bullpen.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
I don't really understand this lol.
Can’t they like make him out a resume and fax it out to all the teams.
Average fastball.
Good movement.
55mph something pitch.
If a wild goat wanders in your dugout he can kill it with his pinky.
Oh and you’re going to need to pay a shitload of money for him.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 3, 2009 3:40 PM CDT reply actions 4 recs
in this job market
goat-killing skills really make you stand out from the crowd.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
Not to mention
He’s got a sweet Lamborghini, and he can drink the fuck out of a bottle of rum. How many other major-league pitchers can do that?
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Interesting
Could be motivated by last night, could be motivated by need to make payroll room, could be motivated by Hicks saying that a prospective buyer wont buy the team at its present team salary.
It is a 30/70% chance that he does/doesn’t get claimed.
We arent playing baseball tonight, weather looks bad.
This is our year.
http://www.lonestarball.com/2009/1/29/739765/the-socket-joint-rotator-c
by FormerLSBUser on Jun 3, 2009 3:44 PM CDT reply actions
ok so what I'm getting out of it ...
they want him gone. He gets claimed, great.
He goes unclaimed, they demote him to A ball and hope he refuses assignment so that they’re off the hook for the remaining $8M and he’s gone.
Yes
The Rangers on on the Hook for his remaining salary unless they can get another team to place him on their 25-man roster.
Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."
Evan Grant updated
to say that yes, Padilla is just plain gone to any team that claims him. I think it’s entirely possible he does not get claimed, but that the Rangers could make a deal to a team willing to take him on if the Rangers pay a portion of his salary with a minor prospect coming back. Or a similarly painful contract comes back, but a guy that might not clear waivers.
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Somethign doesn't smell right
Padilla’s a good pitcher, or is at the very least good enough to be in the Rangers’ rotation. If anyone doesn’t think so, they’re deluded.
Pennant contending teams are willing to put up with a lot of shit from players if they contribute. Padilla is one of two guys on the roster that is capable of throwing around 200 innings. If this were a minor discipline problem they’d bench him, relegate him to the pen for a couple weeks, or something like that.
Something very big must have happened. I can’t imagine what it would be. I didn’t see anything terrible about anything he did yesterday. He hit Teixeiria, who’s a huge fucking asshole. And he hit him in the ass, not the head or anything like that. That’s just baseball.
by BoogPowell on Jun 3, 2009 3:55 PM CDT reply actions 1 recs
Ponson was way different
Perhaps the same conflict issues but certainly not the same contract. Rangers got rid of Ponson only because they were tired of his shit. Rangers might just be trying to shed some payroll to finalize a trade.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
The only thing that makes sense based on what we know right now
is that the Rangers are just trying to shed salary and Padilla being one of the 3 big contracts on the team and the worst of the 3 right now is the guy to go.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Just throwin this out there...
…what if this is a salary dump with no other move coming/intended? If some combination of teammates/managers getting frustrated with him and the FO having to cut payroll because of the weird ownership situation instead of a trade that is bringing in more salary is the cause of this, that would be disheartening…
Yeah, Padilla is my least favorite Ranger, but I’m not very optimistic that this will mean a better Rangers product.
NOLAN LAID DOWN THE LAW!!!
Freakin talk show callers…ugh.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Nolan himself
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 6:39 PM CDT up reply actions
Considering that the Braves
just out and out released him, we should probably hope not.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 3, 2009 5:10 PM CDT up reply actions
Hitzges had an interesting thought on Padilla this morning...
He said he thought Padilla intentionally threw at Tex because he wanted out of the game. He didn’t have his stuff, A-Rod was the next batter, the situation was getting worse by the batter, and he doesn’t like Tex anyway. He figured if he drilled Tex in an obvious beaning, the ump would toss him.
I think Norm may be on to something.
II Cor. 4:17-18
I think this is just Norm trying to use up some radio time.
If Padilla wanted out of the game I think he would have just left. Easy enough to say his shoulder, arm, etc. was bothering him. I can see him hitting Tex because he was pissed but not in an effort to get taken out of the game.
EvanGrant just said on the Ticket
that he wouldnt be surprised if Padilla started on Sunday
Keepin it Classy Gentlemen
Great. If Padilla already has a strained relationship with the Rangers,
it should really be exciting after they put him on waviers. Whatever the reason for putting him on waviers, I think he is finished with the Rangers.
Neither would I
no one is going to claim him. It’s possible that someone will take him if the Rangers pay half his salary.
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Yup
If he doesnt start sunday it’s probably because they outright him in hopes he takes free agency
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Don't know why they'd do that
the Rangers would still be on the hook for all his salary. Only way to dump his salary is to trade him or get him claimed off waivers.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
if he opted for free agency i dont think they would be on the hook
right?
but if padilla is smart he wouldnt just turn his back on that kind of money
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
I don't believe
you are correct.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Think i found clarification
If a player has 5 years of major-league service, he may not be assigned to a minor-league team without his consent, regardless of whether he has already been outrighted once, even if he clears waivers. If the player withholds consent, the team must either release him or keep him on the major league roster. In either case, the player must continue to be paid under the terms of his contract. If he is released and signs with a new team, his previous team must pay the difference in salary between the two contracts if the previous contract called for a greater salary.
So if he signs with another team the rangers pay the contract difference which would likely be quite a large difference
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
No, if no one claims him (very likely)
he simply stays in the rotation unless another team expesses interest. I think this is primarily a wake up call for Padilla, not a way to get rid of him.
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Wonderful...
watch him step off the mound, turn around, and throw a FB right at Kins’ head now.
He’s a head case and can’t be happy with a team that is basically trying to give him away.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
contract year...
he may not be the most rational player out there, but if he starts really imploding (which he hasn’t yet) as a retaliation (and I know your “throw a FB right at Kins’ head now” is a joke), he stands to lose millions. I bet if he goes unclaimed he comes out throwing lights-out baseball.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 3, 2009 6:42 PM CDT up reply actions
This is total bullshit
Padilla’s better than you guys think. Some of you have a warped sense of baseball players or something.
Now if he did something egregious then I can understand this. I imagine most teams will want to know what it was before they make a claim, too. What I’m trying to say that if he doesn’t get claimed, it won’t be because of his salary or his ability to pitch.
Like someone said, he’s one of like two guys who could make it to the 200 inning mark for the Rangers. That’s something of value when you’re in contention. Guys like that don’t grow on trees. There’s something else to this.
Either that or the Rangers are stupid.
This thread is just a lot of speculation
precisely because this doesn’t seem to make any sense. We’re all just trying to make sense of it, throwing things out there. I can’t see any reason for the team to do this unless something really strange happened behind the scenes. If that’s the case it will get out soon.
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Actually
he only made it to the 200 IP mark once as a Ranger, in his first year here. As a Ranger he has an ERA of 4.96 and an ERA+ of 91.
He is a roughly average pitcher, maybe a little below average.
It’s a damn shame too, because everyone has seen he has the stuff to be one of the better pitchers in the AL, maybe a weak number 1 or a solid number 2. However, because he is such a headcase, he pitches more like a 3 or 4 starter.
I definitely understand the Rangers willingness to dump him if someone else would take the contract off our hands, but I’m pretty damn sure there isn’t anyone in baseball who will take him for his contract, because he is a nutjob. As good as he looks when his head is right, he has also thrown up quite a few 3 and 4 inning stinkers while a Ranger.
I didn’t expect to see him run through waivers this year, but I knew there wasn’t a chance in hell they would exercise his option for next year.
"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
So...
I would like a word with Large Steve who told me this team would never go with McCarthy, Harrison, or Holland in the rotation over Padilla when the Rangers are trying to win a pennant.
Apparently that’s exactly what they want to do. Of course I didn’t expect this though.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
If this move is strictly based on shedding salary then my theory stands
If this move is explained that they did this to go with those guys over Padilla in a pennant race then this front office is a bunch of fucking morons.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
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