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Either rain or a roster move tonight

Evan Grant says that if there's a game tonight, the Rangers are going to option Warner Madrigal to AAA, purchase the contract of Doug Mathis, and move Willie Eyre to the 60 day d.l.

Why?  Beats me, other than they want to get Madrigal work.  This does suggest, though, that Kris Benson is going to lose his roster spot when Matt Harrison comes back, with Mathis replacing him as the long man.  As has been mentioned before, if the Rangers aren't going to use Benson in a situation like last night's game -- and instead would go with Derek Holland, who is supposed to be starting just four days later, and who is a lefty facing a team that kills lefties -- then there's really not much reason for him to be on the team.

The other possibility is that Benson is going to make Saturday's start now, since Holland was used yesterday, and they presumably don't want to start him on three days' rest.  In that situation, Mathis replaces Benson as the long man, although Benson could still get the ax when Harrison returns.

In the meantime, there's rain in New York, and some question about whether or not the game tonight will even be played.  I imagine the Rangers would like a rainout, since it means they can skip Holland's spot in the rotation altogether on Saturday, and not worry about starting him on short rest or Benson at all.  Presumably, the game would be made up in August, and you'd hope that Josh Hamilton would be back in the lineup by then, and possibly someone like Roy Oswalt in the rotation...

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If the game is PPD tonight, and they play 2 tomorrow.. How would that affect my tickets for tomorrow’s game?

by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 3:57 PM CDT reply actions  

Wouldn't

As AJM mentions, the makeup game would probably be in August. Even if there was a double header tomorrow, they’re always day-night doubleheaders so they can clear everyone out from the first game.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 3, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

Madrigal

I just think Susan Boyle when I see him now.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

I don't get it

What’s the connection? Just the striking good looks of the two?

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 4:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

ding, ding,ding, ding

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

My sister

had like 30 of those things growing up.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

Oh, August... I see.

Didn’t realize we were headed back there.

by cmkelly29 on Jun 3, 2009 3:58 PM CDT reply actions  

This series

The Yanks series has set up very poorly but I think the Rangers will be catching the Sox at the right time. They will face Penny, Lester and Matsuzaka, all of whom have been struggling and the Sox offense is likewise struggling at the moment. Escaping New York with 2 games instead of 3 and getting some rest for the pen would be very useful.

by pblack on Jun 3, 2009 4:00 PM CDT reply actions  

Really?

I watched most of Dice-Ks game last night, and while he nibbled too much he still only gave up one run. Lester just had 12 Ks in 6 IP.

Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.

by WyoRanger on Jun 3, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Mathis

How many options does he have? Can they just option him when Harrison come back?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 4:04 PM CDT reply actions  

Doesn't matter, you only use one option per year

regardless of the number of times that you actually go up and down between the leagues.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jun 3, 2009 4:05 PM CDT up reply actions  

right

but he hasn’t been optioned this year since he hasn’t been on the 40.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

sorry

misread your question and was thinking Mad Dog instead of Mathis.

Nevermind

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jun 3, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

They can option him

However, they are putting him on the 40 man roster, which I doubt they’d do if they didn’t plan on him being here a while.

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 3, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

I guess this means

our OKC Redhawk fans get to see some more of Josh Rupe suckitude.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

True

But also it gives them flexibility. If he comes up and is strictly used as a long man/mop up guy like benson then if he is only going to get 4 appearances a month he could be sent down for someone who pitches higher leverage situations. Right now we really only have two guys in the pen with options that are actually likely to get sent down (Madrigal and Holland, although Holland is not very likely). Adding another guy with options just gives us more maneuvering room if minor injuries occur

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 3, 2009 6:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roy-O

Any ideas about what it would take to pry him from the Astros?

"Was this really necsarry?" - cowpoke/hurler hurley

by trza on Jun 3, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions  

Too much.

I’d much rather go the Cain route if that is out there.

Jeff Zimmerman for President.

by AirJordan on Jun 3, 2009 4:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

I'm excited that Adam is on the Oswalt bandwagon now

I’ve always liked Roy. I’d like to see him in a Rangers uniform.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 4:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The thing about him is

You’re going to be getting a good pitcher at an ace price. Don’t think it’s worth it.

Jeff Zimmerman for President.

by AirJordan on Jun 3, 2009 4:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

F Roy Os

every1 knows he’d cost a fortune and to think he’s the guy he was when the Stros were good is silly.

Its the “never watches the NL” crowd. come on people!

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 3, 2009 4:49 PM CDT up reply actions  

Your updates really suck ass today, AJM.

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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jun 3, 2009 4:11 PM CDT reply actions  

That's not a nice thing to say....

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

If Benson starts Saturday

I’m going to have to start drinking real early in the morning.

by Clownballoon on Jun 3, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions  

You can probably

hook up with Vicente if you like Rum.

"Guillermo Moscoso despite his stunning game yesterday, is not a legit prospect. He is simply too old, too skinny, too weak, and lacks the fastball to make it at the professional level. ." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on Jun 3, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Just be prepared

to dodge the empty bottles.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 4:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Only if you are hammered

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions  

Who said anything

about Blalock?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 4:25 PM CDT up reply actions  

I see what you did there...

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:27 PM CDT up reply actions  

Rain starting here in NYC.

I’m about to head out to the game, but it’s not looking very likely to happen.

by Texas_Dawg on Jun 3, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions  

Have fun

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions  

rain

So how does rain effect the roster moves?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 4:34 PM CDT reply actions  

They can be made

at least one day later.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 3, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions  

!!!!

WHAT! I would hope the rangers aren’t sitting in the clubhouse hoping for a rain out. I hope they’re ready to go out and kick some ass.

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jun 3, 2009 4:35 PM CDT reply actions  

The players probably do

The braintrust may think differently.

Gotta say, I’m surprised that the Hamilton news has been pretty much overshadowed.

by BoogPowell on Jun 3, 2009 4:36 PM CDT up reply actions  

Roy Oswalt is a pipedream

AMJ, you’re turning into Newberg when he was obsessed over Grienke. There’s no way the ’Stros will trade him to Texas for anything less than Feliz, Smoak, and another low/high-A arm like Boscan.

That's why they call them business sox

by egriffey on Jun 3, 2009 4:38 PM CDT reply actions  

I think Grienke

Could have been had last year for the right price.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

I doubt it would take Feliz AND Smoak

More likely Feliz or Holland ++, which is more than I’d be willing to pay for Oswalt.

by LiamP on Jun 3, 2009 4:40 PM CDT up reply actions  

Thanks for the link I forgot to put it in

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

Pedro, Milly, & Glavine, and no Padz backstabbin'?

Millwood, Glavine, & Milly, then pass the martini?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jun 3, 2009 4:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Glavine just got released by the Braves

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jun 3, 2009 4:41 PM CDT reply actions  

Probably true

But its just odd for he just threw a scoreless 6 innings in a rehab start last night. Per the article, he was headed to Atl to prepare for a Sunday start.

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 3, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we're the only team that wants him

I’m sure he’d come here

I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'

by iorange555 on Jun 3, 2009 4:52 PM CDT up reply actions  

if we're the only team that wants him

Tom Glavine will retire.

I’m more confident in my chances of getting called by JD for an assistant GM spot than Tom Glavine ever wearing a Rangers uniform.

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 3, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions  

probably salary related

per Cots

1 year/$1M (2009)
re-signed by Atlanta as a free agent 2/19/09
$3.5M in roster bonuses: $1M for making active roster, $1.25M each for 30, 60 days on active roster
large portion on bonuses earned may be deferred for up to 5 years

And Atlanta’s attendance is down ~5K/gm this year.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 4:56 PM CDT up reply actions  

No good cheap ass owner---

Oh wait, that is reserved for Ranger bashing…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jun 3, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions  

If we were to sign Glavine

I would imagine it would be for fairly cheap. It is only getting a MAX of 4.5M (if he meets all incentives) for the entire year so i can imagine we could sign him for pretty cheap. maybe a max of $2M with some solid incentives!

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jun 3, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions  

Was he released from a ML or MiL contract?

If a ML contract, wouldn’t the Rangers pickup the rest?

In 1991, I was 8 and thought Kirby Puckett would come beat up the monster in the closet if I prayed hard enough.
by GhettoBear04 on May 17, 2009 5:26 PM CDT

by awillis111 on Jun 3, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

If its a rainout I wonder if we will see more hijinx like last year in NY during a rainout

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 3, 2009 6:10 PM CDT reply actions  

Wash said in

the pregame interview that they needed a fresh arm in the bullpen so they sent Madrigal down and brought up Mathis. I call BS.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 6:12 PM CDT reply actions  

Maybe if he had let his mop up man pitch more than one inning last night in a blowout he wouldn't need fresh arms

Madrigal and Eddie had no business pitching in last nights game. Benson should have gone three innings and we would have two fully fresh arms tonight

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 3, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

Concur

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions  

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