The 6-3 "Other People's Trades" Minors Thread
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 6:39 PM CDT
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Three pretty good prospects going tonight for the Rangers.
At 7, Kasey Kiker takes on the Tulsa Drillers, who he faced his last time out - when he lasted 3 2/3 due to high pitch counts. He will face a Tulsa lineup that's one of the worst in the Texas league.
At about 10 minutes later, Guillermo Moscoso takes on a veteran Memphis squad who is quite a tough matchup. I look forward to seeing how Julio Borbon perform for this team as well.
At 9:05, LSB mascot Blake Beavan will take on an ice-cold Visalia Raw Hide team.
Discussion: The Nate McLouth trade
Wow. Did anyone see this coming? The Pirates trade Nate McLouth to the Braves for Gorkys Hernandez (one of the best defensive CFs in the minors last year), Jeff Locke (a lefty with good stuff), and extraneous starter Charlie Morton. This opens up a spot in the Pirates OF for Andrew McCutchen, but I can't help but think that the Pirates did not get optimal value for a player coming off of a very good season, and was still cheap. How does this deal compare with some of the other deals made in the last few years? Is there a more boom or bust OF alignment than Jose Tabata, Gorkys Hernandez and Andrew McCutchen?
Will this officially signal an early start to the trading season? Will it drive a team like the Mets to make a move to keep up?
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IM lazy, but how many years does Mclouth have til he reaches FA
this makes sense for the braves, they needed this help especially after demoting Schafer. The amount years McLouth has til he reaches FA would be the determining factor on whether or not that deal makes sense for the Pirates
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 7:01 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He just signed
a 3 year, 15 million dollar deal to buy out his arbitration years. So really, really cheap for 3 years.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 7:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
McClouth
Isn’t he one of the worst defensive CF in the majors? Will Atlanta play him in a corner?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 7:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
In the long term
they have Schafer in CF, but in the short term, I think, he’s in CF.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 7:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was terrible last year.
So far this year statistically he’s been just a little below par.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 3, 2009 10:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
KK
ran into more problems in the third. 3 walks.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 7:55 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
KK broke through the 3 2/3 barrier
4 IP, 1 H, 1 R, 3 BB, 2 K
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 8:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Moscoso
passed the test
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 9:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like JD did good on the Laird deal
when is Melo due to pitch in DSL or extended?
by laxtonto on Jun 3, 2009 9:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What do you mean?
Assuming he’s in extended, he’s there now.
My money is on AZL for Melo this summer.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 3, 2009 9:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I couldn't find him on either DSL roster
and haven’t heard anything on him in extended.
by laxtonto on Jun 3, 2009 10:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah
I’m not sure, but I have to think he’s in extended.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 3, 2009 10:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between Moscos and Mello
I am fairly happy with the return. Especially with Lumpy putting up a .229 BA and .655 OPS.
I am surprised we haven’t heard more about how good of a deal that was for Texas. JD gets no love, again…
by laxtonto on Jun 3, 2009 10:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's more of a product
that no one hates themselves enough to spend two seconds thinking about Gerald Laird in order to realize that’s a good trade.
by Hull Fan on Jun 4, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on the Moscoso
bandwagon since the trade. T-ball, Z, too…
by Goyogringo on Jun 4, 2009 2:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've been on since I saw that jerry curl
by tyd3311 on Jun 4, 2009 7:13 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's in AZL extended
where he will likely stay for short season
by Goyogringo on Jun 4, 2009 2:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrew Laughter
allowing inherited runners to score like a mofo.
2-2
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 9:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
yea, tough for Kiker, i bet if Laughter had to bat against kiker he get one in the ear hole
not the best of outings for KK, but still should have been better off
"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"
by blalock84 on Jun 3, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not sure Laughter makes it to the end of the year
hes’ following up a crappy second half of 08 with a crappy spring. There are a lot of HighA guys who deserve to be in AA right now…
by Goyogringo on Jun 4, 2009 2:58 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I for one
welcome our slap-hitting overlords
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 9:49 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 1:37 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Esmil Rogers
has a good fastball. He didn’t throw a single offspeed pitch until the fourth inning, and he couldn’t locate his curveball that BA regards as plus all night. He threw a couple below 92 late in the game, but was 92-94 (more 94s than anything else) with two 97s.
Meanwhile, Kiker was 86-88 tonight, touched 90 just once, but was successful with it, had a pretty good curve and a useable change (even though it was only about 5-6 mph slower than the form of FB that he was throwing tonight).
by Brett Perryman on Jun 3, 2009 9:47 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Welcome to the TX pen in 2010?
I’ll take the extra 2-4mph of velo I think…
by Goyogringo on Jun 4, 2009 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I’m of that frame of mind too.
Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur
by Brett Perryman on Jun 4, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Blake Beavan 2nd
Batter 1: Devon White
Pitch 1: LD to RF, Single (FB)
Batter 2:Eric Walker
Pitch 1: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: Foul (FB)
Pitch 3: Foul (FB)
Pitch 4: Foul (FB)
Pitch 5: Foul (CHG)
Pitch 6: Foul (FB)
Pitch 7: Foul (FB)
Pitch 8: Ball (SLD)
Pitch 9: Ball (SLD)
Pitch10: FB to Butler (FB)
Batter 3: David Cooper
Pitch 1: Ball (FB)
Pitch 2: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 4: Called Strike (FB)
Batter 4: Eli Rummler
Pitch 1: Called Strike (SLD)
Pitch 2: Ball (SLD)
Pitch 3: Dbl inside the RF line (FB)
Batter 5: Ali Linton
Pitch 1: Ball (FB)
Pitch 2: Swinging Strike (FB) – “Good 4 seamer”
Pitch 3: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 4: Swinging STrike (FB)
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 9:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Devon White is back in A+?
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 3, 2009 9:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that's why
he’s late on fastballs.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 3, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beltre
apparently has crazy bat speed.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 9:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I mean like
turning a 93 mph FB at his head into a triple down the line good.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 9:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beavan 3
Batter 1:
Pitch 1: Ball (FB)
Pitch 2: GB to Jonathan Greene
Batter 2: Kyle Greene
Pitch 1: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: Swinging Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: Foul (SLD)
Pitch 4: Ball (FB)
Pitch 5: Ball (FB) – “Just slow” Beavan goes Beavan on the HP Ump
Pitch 6: Foul (FB)
Pitch 7: Swinging Strike (FB) – High FB
Batter 3: Colin Cowgill
Pitch 1: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: GB Double Down the Line (SLD)
Batter 4:
Pitch 1: Called Strike (SLD)
Pitch 2: GB to Beavan
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:04 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Couple of things about Blake
one, he seems to be going to that High fastball as a strikeout pitch more this year.
Two, apparently, he has two breaking pitches, a “get me over” type, and a pretty good bite one that he uses as a strikeout pitch.
Three, he, like the rest of the Bakersfield rotation, is barely using their changeups
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:05 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting
Why aren’t they using their changeups?
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by lonestarJon on Jun 3, 2009 10:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have no clue
but it’s not just Beavan, but Main and Gomez does not use theirs as well
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beavan 4
Batter 1: Ryan White
Pitch 1: Single
Batter 2: Erik Walker
Pitch 1: Swinging Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: Foul (FB)
Pitch 4: Ball (SLD)
Pitch 5: Foul (FB)
Pitch 6: Called Strike (SLD)
Batter 3: David Cooper
Pitch 1: GB to Green
Batter 4: Eli Rummler
Pitch 1: GB to Greene
God, that’s some sexy, GB%
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:16 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
OT: Braves calling up Hanson
He’s starting Saturday against the Brewers.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 10:34 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
awesome!!! i just siigned him the other day in my fantasy league
i knew theyd call him up sooner or later, 3 days later, its sooner
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 3, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beavan 5
Batter 1: Olivier Linton
Pitch 1: Swinging Strike (SLD)
Pitch 2: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: HBP
Batter 2: Taylor Harbin
Pitch 1: Swinging Strike (SLD)
Pitch 2: FB to Timmy Smith
Batter 3: Kyle Green
Pitch 1: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: Swinging Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: Swinging Strike (FB)
Batter 4: Cowgill
Pitch 1: Ball (FB)
-Ollie Linton Steals 2nd)
Pitch 2: 1B Error by Davis Stoneburner
Batter 5: Conrad Schmidt
Pitch 1: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: Swinging Strike (SLD)
Pitch 3: RBI GB single to RF
Batter 6: Ryan
Pitch 1: Foul (FB)
Pitch 2: Foul (FB)
Pitch 3: GB to Stoneburner
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:35 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Davis Stoneburner
is a fucking butcher.
Free Jacob Kaase.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why is Edwin Garcia not being used
After playing one game, haven’t seen him in a game since.
by gamerabcd on Jun 3, 2009 10:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Today has seen
McCutchen, Hanson and now Beckham called up. Talk about the beginning to wipe out the top of the BA top 50.
by laxtonto on Jun 3, 2009 10:40 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Beavan 6
Batter 1: Eric Walker
Pitch 1: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 2: GB to Beavan
Batter 2: David Cooper
Pitch 1: Foul (FB)
Pitch 2: Ball
Pitch 3: Called Strike
Pitch 4: Ball (SLD)
Pitch 5: GB to Green
Batter 3: Eli Rummler
Pitch 1: Ball (SLD)
Pitch 2: Called Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: Foul (FB)
Pitch 4: IF Single off the Glove of Beavan
Batter 4:
Pitch 1: Ball
Pitch 2: Swinging Strike (FB)
Pitch 3: Foul (FB)
Pitch 4: F to Engel Beltre (FB)
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:52 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
After charting pitches for the last few days
Doesn’t Beavan use his offspeed pitches alot more than any other pitcher in Baks? Main has a plus plus curve, yet seems to not use it much but living off the high heat.
by gamerabcd on Jun 3, 2009 10:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
it’s because he throws it for strikes with great consistency.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 10:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Or is it a case where he locates the fastball so well
The coaches might be having the other guys concentrate on fastball command.
by gamerabcd on Jun 3, 2009 11:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
He just locates his pitches better in general, but that 2ndary breaking ball that he throws in for a strike is a very good pitch that he commands so well.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:05 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Falcon in
C-Wun done.
Good line overall,
6 IP, 7 H, 1R, 1BB, 6K.
Best Bakersfield pitching prospect.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:07 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty solid day for starters on the farm
Moscoso and Beavan were impressive and Kiker, well he was pretty good I guess. Perryman’s reports of 86-88 on the FB aren’t too encouraging though.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's always been inconsistent
velocity wise, because he’s inconsistent mechanics wise.
I really think, at some point, we should starting thinking about Kik to the pen.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he ends up there
But there really isn’t much benefit to making that transition until he reaches ML, is there?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could expedite the process of getting him to the majors.
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. But I'd much rather give him every chance to figure it out as a starter, no matter how remote the chances of that happening are.
I just don’t think getting him here a half a year or maybe even a full year sooner via switching him to the ’pen now is a smart long term decision.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beavan
best pitching prospect on the farm between OKC and Hickory?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I like some of the bullpen pitchers
but, yeah, I’d probably say yes right now, with a small Kiker cavat.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yuppers.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 1:40 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Gotta like Perez’s chances of being a TORP moreso than Beavan’s. Main will come around, also.
Wonderboy, what is the secret of your power? Wonderboy, won't you take me far away from the mucky-muck now. -- Tenacious D
by rooster on Jun 4, 2009 7:06 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Between Hickory and OKC.
Meaning Bakersfield and Frisco.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 7:59 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
considering Poveda and Moscoso
are now up in OKC, their is not much competition for best prospect between OKC and Hickory.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 4, 2009 8:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But Main
is in Bakersfield and no way would anyone rank Beavan ahead of him two months ago.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 4, 2009 10:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
right now
At what point does performance (Beavan) start to outweigh potential (Main)?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 4, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe not, but it was pretty darn close according to some people... like me.
I’m actually still mad at myself for buying into the FIL hype and putting Main over Beavan in December.
At the end of the season I had Beavan over Main and let all those drool-worthy reports that filtered in change my little mind.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Everyone was influenced by that, but most already liked Main better
influenced, partly, I think, by Beavan’s douche act after he was drafted and his drop in velocity. I still think Main has the higher ceiling, but this stretch has to worry you about his ability to remain consistent enough to reach it.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 4, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And I should add
that if Beavan can get his velocity back up to 93-94 regularly we might have to rethink the relative ceilings of the two a bit since his secondary stuff seems to be coming along well and his K/BB keeps looking splendid.
G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....
by t ball on Jun 4, 2009 1:56 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Okay...
do the Braves need another starter by chance?
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 11:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Firebat
You are much more into the minor leaguers than I. Who are currently the top 5 untouchables in the Rangers’ system?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 11:15 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't think
we have 5.
Fuck, I’m not sure if we have 3.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Even Perez
I think Justin Smoak would be more likely on the “untouchable” list than Perez.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The reason I dont list Smoak is because of Chris Davis.
I’m not for trading him, though.
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Justin Smoak
is a different type of player than almost anyone else we have.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Feliz isn't untouchable for me.
Perez/Smoak I’d think.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
by sprite on Jun 3, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why?
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
by sprite on Jun 3, 2009 11:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
21 year old in AAA who can touch 100 mph.
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And a pretty damn good
breaking ball.
Really, the difference between him and Justin Verlander is just a little bit more of FB command
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Doesnt Verlander have 2 plus plus pitches
I think his slider is not in that category, the fastball is, but not the rest.
by gamerabcd on Jun 3, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just messing with ya
was gonna duke it out with you for shits and giggles but I don’t have it in me.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
by sprite on Jun 3, 2009 11:25 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Smoak, Feliz, and Perez are all elite A/A- prospects. Not sure about “untouchable”, but pretty close IMO.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep...
those 3 are as close to untouchable as it gets in my eyes too.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 3, 2009 11:54 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
the reason I am asking is
Could we give Houston quantity over quality to get Oswalt? The Rangers protect 5 players in their system and let Houston pick 4 players, one from each level.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
Roy Oswalt is broken. I would not trade for him.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me neither.
wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by lonestarJon on Jun 3, 2009 11:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
i said it earlier, i think its the “dont watch NL” crowd that is clamoring for this and its just b/c they still think he is 2004 Roy
mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.
by Jayslick on Jun 3, 2009 11:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, nevermind. :)
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 3, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
For that matter
I don’t think ANY farm system would have 5. That’d be 5 A prospects, that’d be nuts.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we have 3 right?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean as of right now
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I think so.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wieland is probably pretty untouchable as well
given Nolan’s love.
by tyd3311 on Jun 3, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
while you are
some on here feel that way for real
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 4, 2009 7:41 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's put it another way
Top 100 prospects
Smoak, Feliz, Perez are certainties, but I’m not sure that there is a fourth top 100 guy right now.
Holland, Andrus and Teagarden from last year’s list are in the majors, and Max Ramirez is sucking. Beltre and Main almost made it, but they aren’t playing well either. The 14th pick has a decent shot to make it, but that’s all speculation at this point, obviously.
Font, Boscan and Borbon seem like the others who have some sort of a shot. I don’t think that Kiker or Beavan do, just knowing how BA does their business.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 3, 2009 11:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Boscan
I would think he’s pretty close. I’d say he has a pretty good shot.
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by FirebatM3 on Jun 3, 2009 11:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think he has a decent shot too
but his less than front end stuff, if SAL scouts they talk to still regard it as that, could be enough to keep him off, since his results are just in Low A. Still, he’s allowed 19 baserunners in 27 innings. If he stays healthy and keeps that up as a teenager in full season ball, I’m not sure how you keep him off. His performance once he gets his likely promotion to the Cal League also probably plays a big part.
by Brett Perryman on Jun 3, 2009 11:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
True. Right now I think we'd get 3.
Though I think by the end of the year at least two more will probably join them.
I’d say two of Beavan, Main, Font, Boscan, Beltre, Borbon, Max, Kiker, Kirkman, Cankles, and 14th Pick Guy, depending on who steps up.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 1:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3. Perez, Feliz and Smoak.
Though no one is truly untouchable.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 1:42 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep.
I bet I could touch any of those guys if I walked right up to ’em.
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by lonestarJon on Jun 4, 2009 1:45 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As in, I'd trade all three of those guys for Albert Pujols right now.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 1:47 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know.
I was shooting for a “that’s what she said” moment.
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by lonestarJon on Jun 4, 2009 1:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
And seriously... I'm not sure I'd trade all three of them for Pujols.
I mean Pujols is great, don’t get me wrong. He’s probably the best 1B in baseball.
But considering Smoak projects to be a pretty good 1B himself, I think I’d rather have him and two insanely talented pitchers than one uber-insanely talented 1B. Now, Timmy Lincecum or Grady Sizemore? Different story.
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by lonestarJon on Jun 4, 2009 1:50 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pujols is the best player in baseball, hands down.
If there’s anyone I’d trade those three for, it’d be Pujols.
I’m not sure people realize just how insanely good he is.
I’m glad that’s not an option, though. Cause trading those three would break my little Dirkaheart.
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by thedirkatron on Jun 4, 2009 2:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hear he's a machine.
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by Maximilian on Jun 4, 2009 2:26 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not a machine
he’s just Albert.
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by FirebatM3 on Jun 4, 2009 3:00 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which stands for
Awesome Long-Ball Expediting RoboT.
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by lonestarJon on Jun 4, 2009 8:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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