Mock drafts and draft talk
Some mock drafts are up...
Jim Callis's mock has Shelby Miller falling to the Rangers at #14, as does Andy Seiler's mock (which goes three rounds deep)...
John Sickels, meanwhile, will be doing his community-driven live mock draft at Minor League Ball beginning at noon today...it goes five rounds...
Miller seems the obvious pick if he's there, but there's talk he may be gone by then...of interest is that both Seiler and Callis have the Royals taking USC shortstop Grant Green at #12, and Callis suggests if he doesn't go there, he could slide all the way to the Yankees.
Green is a Boras client who was ranked as the #3 prospect in the draft in BA's November rankings, but has seen his stock slip...he's got a good mix of tools, but there's questions about his strike zone judgment and whether he'll stay at shortstop, or have to move to second or third. The Rangers are, of course, set at the infield on the major league level for years to come, and have several infield prospects in the upper levels of the minors, but if you believe that you don't draft for need, Green could be an intriguing option at #14 if Miller is gone.
Keith Law's latest post at the ESPN Draft Blog notes that the Rangers have been heavily scouting Tanner Scheppers at St. Paul, where he's pitching in an independent league, and Callis has Scheppers going at #15 to Cleveland. The issue with Scheppers is his health -- he slid last year because of a stress fracture -- but as a 22 year old who was considered a likely top ten pick before his injury, he could move quickly and provide terrific value at #14 if he can stay on the mound.
UPDATE -- Kevin Goldstein offers his top 50 draft prospects.
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Green
I was listening to the BA podcast a couple of weeks ago and they had real questions about his bat. Even with the upside I would rather see the Rangers draft a pitcher than a guy like Green.
It's less about questions about his ability to hit as much as it is questions about his abiliy to hit for power.
There’s some consensus that he’ll hit for good average, but his approach hasn’t been that great, and his power hasn’t been that great, both naturally and as a result of the aforementioned approach. The huge problem with him is his defense, as most think he’ll have to move off short, as he’s both mistake-prone and lacking in the range department, though not all the time. Some teams think they can take the few flash in the pan moments and make that happen consistently. But yeah, he’s not Tulo or Longoria, like some people thought before the season.
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damn
if the rangers get the players that andy has in his mock, i would be extremely happy….
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
I'm scared that if we take Green, it could be
Drew Meyer all over again….
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me too!!!!
Besides the obvious talents like Teixeira and Smoak. Anytime we take guys that are Green or Tate, I think of Meyer and JMJ.
Sentence structure fail.
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Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 6, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
if miller is gone
id rather take my chances on scheppers or borchering
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
Would you still like Borchering if our scouts felt he couldn't stick at 3rd?
I worry about how his bat’ll play in LF, which is where I’m worried he’ll end up.
I dunno, though. He might be able to stick there. It’s the ~1.5mm dollar question.
If I felt he was gonna have to move I think I’d rather see a guy who projects as a plus defender in the OF like Tim Wheeler. The ceiling with the bat might be a little lower, but I think if Borchering has to move to the OF (or 1b) then the speed/good glove in the OF of Wheeler might cause me to prefer him.
The 40 Trumps All!!!
Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.
by thedirkatron on Jun 6, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I've read in a couple places that Borchering's defense has really improved this year.
And he has the pure tools to become a good defender, but probably not a plus one. But the fact that I read it in at least 2, maybe 3, places makes me think his improvement was legit. I can’t say the same for Matt Davidson.
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yeah, i read about that
i’d still take him as a 1B.
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
When
possible, I’d always take the higher ceiling player. Borchering has the ability to become a top 3 3B. I’ll take that in a draft that’s defined by low ceiling guys.
"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon
Borchering
If one of the arms being touted isnt there (miller, leake, etc) then i’m all for borchering.
"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg
Scheppers
Scheppers is pitching tonight at the Saints game (unless the Rain wipes it out). Two Rangers scouts will be on hand to watch him pitch. They were also on hand to watch him pitch in late May.
We are expecing a third to half the teams to be represented here this evening to watch him pitch.
"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"
I need ESPNU.
It’s just not worth it for a few Super Regional games every year.
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I have 100 different ESPNs but I don' think I have that one.
by Black Francis on Jun 6, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions
Dish network
…but it’s through Grande Communications so it’s weird.
by Black Francis on Jun 6, 2009 11:35 AM CDT up reply actions
too bad its not in hd
i’ve become an HD snob
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Alex White @ 14
Andy, would Alex White at #14 for the Rangers be a good pick? I know you have no way to know who will be available, but right now if the Rangers got White at #14 what would you think about the pick?
I'd be happy.
But I’ve become in the minority with that. I’d be thrilled. With a little mechanical cleanup, he could be a borderline #1/2 starter. He’s got the pieces, if his command is cleaned up through a few mechanical changes, to be a frontline starter. People forget that from time-to-time with him. I’ve been mystified as to why teams would want a Kyle Gibson over White.
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Miller does nothing for me.
I’m praying that one of Scheppers or Leake falls to the Rangers.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
I don't think Leake is a Bannister type.
The CJ hate is getting old.
"We love Wash.....As a team, we want Wash as the head of that team." Hamilton
"The NFL made me undergo a psychiatric evaluation......Please. It was an accident. If I wanted to post a picture of my penis I wouldn't have been all hunched over."- Chris Cooley.
wow
so, im going back through JD’s drafts, and i was looking at the Beavan/Main draft … what a sick draft that was, and imagine if we signed Gast, Pomeranz, and Raunado. Makes me a bit sad…
But, atleast it means we got some pretty good draft minds making these picks…lovin’ that…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
You can have Gast.
But Pomeranz, Ranaudo, and Kevin Keyes would be nice.
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And Andy Wilkins.
Arkansas Razorback. Dillon Baird, who we picked in the 48th round that year (2007), will be a top 10 rounder this year out of Arizona.
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Yeah but the scouts
can be faulted for not correctly gauging their signability IMO.
Could be they were right on that too
And the Rangers just tried risking it to see if they could make the signing anyways.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Goldstein on Ackley @ #2
2. Dustin Ackley, OF, North Carolina
The Good: He has the best combination of tools and skills among the position players, with above-average power and speed, along with amazing hands that easily project him as a .300 hitter in the big leagues.
The Bad: His throwing arm is poor; he’s unproven in center field; he struggles against lefties with good breaking balls.
In A Perfect World He Becomes: An All-Star center fielder with less power than Grady Sizemore but a better batting average, but there is some chance that he’ll be forced to move to left field.
This really isn’t a good draft for position players, is it?
Go Rice Owls!
That's really pessimistic.
And his arm is poor due to surgery that he’s still recovering from.
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Rangers' first Sickels mock draft pick;
Chad James, LHP, Yukon HS, Oklahoma
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Over at MiLB
They are saying that Gibson has a stress fracture in his forearm per BA and KG. That doesn’t sound good.
He's out of the first day altogether.
And he won’t make any money going back to school. He’s screwed. He can thank his coach.
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He can thank his coach.
And I wrote about that today on my blog. Overwork of college pitchers, and Gibson was featured.
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Rangers' second Sickels mock draft pick:
Jared Mitchell, OF, LSU
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Rangers' third pick (2nd round) in Sickels' mock draft:
Zack Von Rosenberg, RHP, Zachary HS, Louisiana
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lol
sickels got upset after the 1st pick. waaay under the 15…
"if my kid said 'uhh' that much, i would say, Hey! ... stop saying 'uhh' that much..." - dennis miller
Can you blame him?
You are doing a mock draft, and the person who volunteers for the team picking first doesn’t show?
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 6, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions
That goldengreek guy
is going to give Sickles an aneurysm
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Rangers' fourth and final pick (3rd round) in Sickels' mock draft:
Billy Bullock, RHP, Florida
Rumors of him possibly slipping into the late first round.
My picks: Chad James, Jared Mitchell, Zack Von Rosenberg, Billy Bullock.
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