Vizquel talks about playing for the BoSox
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 7, 2009 10:11 AM CDT
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In a Boston Herald story from this morning, Omar Vizquel talks about the possibility of playing for the Red Sox:
It seems every time the Red Sox need a shortstop, my name gets brought up. Now, I don’t think I’m in a good position to leave. We’re winning here, we have a good thing going. I don’t know if Texas would really let me go. We’ll see. Maybe later in the season? Who knows. I don’t want to close any doors.
Vizquel said that he wished that the Red Sox had contacted him over the offseason, stating:
It would have been great. The Red Sox are a veteran team. All I’d have to do here is make the plays at short. I don’t think they’d worry about me hitting too much.
However, the author states that the Red Sox have indeed contacted the Rangers about a possible trade, but the Rangers were not interested. Also, the author also stated that Vizquel had nothing bad to say about the Rangers.
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If we could get a solid bullpen arm for him
Done and done.
by SaltyGoesYard on Jun 7, 2009 10:26 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If we trade him, do we call up Arias to be the utility infielder?
by Inkara1 on Jun 7, 2009 12:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Either Arias or Duran
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 7, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
or Jose Vallejo
who would be much preferable to those other 2.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 7, 2009 1:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
But of the three it would pain me the most to see Vallejo sitting on the bench 6 days a week
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 7, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you keep talking about not wanting rookies to be on the ML bench
I think you have a decent point, but you take it too far.
The Rangers are surprisinly legit contenders, if there are moves that they can make to improve the last man in the bullpen, or the utility guy, those type upgrades might make a difference of 1-2 wins. When you are trying to win the division, you make those upgrades every single time. You owe it to the fans and especially the players and manager to have your best 25 players on the big league roster during a pennant race.
Being with the big league players and coaches and experiencing the grind of a big league pennant race isn’t going to hinder the development of young players, in fact it might be the best thing for them.
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 7, 2009 1:36 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 7, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
can vallejo play ss?
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 7, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
According to MJH
he can play 2B/SS/3B.
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by FirebatM3 on Jun 7, 2009 6:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tell me something
If Vizquel is traded do you think Arias gets the same amount of playing time Omar is getting? I don’t. I think if Omar gets traded Elvis becomes our everyday SS who may get one or two days off a month. Kinsler and Young don’t get/take days off so your utility man would be for pinch running and very very spot starts. I fail to see how Vallejo is an improvement over Arias in such a short sample period. Over an extended period of time yeah Vallejo is the better player. But when you are talking about maybe 20 ABs a month I just don’t think it is in the organization or the players(Vallejo in this case) best interest to have them sit the bench.
I hate seeing young guys with potential riding the bench. Especially when they could be getting playing time in AAA. SO what if they have nothing left to prove down there and they are destroying the league. If I can’t promise them enough playing time I don’t want them in the majors. It has to be a major upgrade for me to replace the incumbent for a rookie or young player. And Vallejo over Arias or Mathis over Benson isn’t enough of an upgrade to warrant having a young player sit the bench that much
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 7, 2009 9:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
None of the potential
young guys would get as much playing time as Omar, but if the return is Buckholtz, I’m completely okay with that. Andrus played every day for pretty much every team he’s ever been on. Arias sitting on the bench wouldn’t bother me. They could also find a AAA shortstop from someone to ride the pine in Arlington.
Vizquel doesn’t have long and if the Rangers can maximize his value along with those other pieces for a legit young starting pitcher I really don’t care what it does to the backup SS and starting DH.
What’s not to like about this rotation?
Millwood
Buckholtz
Feldman
Padilla
MCarthy/Harrison
Whichever of the last one is healthy and least able to handle the bullpen. You release Padilla in the winter and trade McCarthy putting both Harrison and Holland in the rotation next season. That’s a darn good rotation.
by Hull Fan on Jun 7, 2009 10:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Vizquel is not gonna bring back Bucholz
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 7, 2009 10:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding.
I thought we had addressed that fact in the Jeff Wilson mailbag thread.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2009 10:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who said Vizquel
is the centerpiece?
Blalock filling their massive hole at DH, Teagarden starting his apprenticeship for their future catching situation, then Vizquel filling their SS problem along with a legit pitching prospect.
Heck they can name the pitcher as long as it’s not Feliz, Perez, or Holland. I just thought Main was a good start. Poveda or Gomez or whomever, even Font who I don’t want to move to help even it out.
by Hull Fan on Jun 7, 2009 10:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well then you won't get a deal done
Heck they can name the pitcher as long as it’s not Feliz, Perez, or Holland.
They would want one of those guys or no deal. That deal you are proposing wouldn’t even get them to pick up the phone.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
by Dirk Diggler on Jun 7, 2009 11:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That'll never work
Teagarden and Blalock have both sucked this year. So has Main. You’re not getting a guy who’s been rated as a top three prospect in baseball for a half a year of of a 40-something shortstop and a DH who’s only been worth a half a win this year, along with a young catcher and a hype-driven prospect who are both having shitty seasons.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you want an analogy
That’s like grabbing a couple rusty power tools from your garage, the bike you got for Christmas that you hardly ever ride, throwing in a nice pair of silver candlesticks and telling your neighbor you’ll trade him the lot for his ride-along lawnmower with the adjustable blades and the GPS system in case you get lost mowing the yard.
The candlesticks might be worth something someday, but your neighbor is going to laugh his ass off.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but..
we all know the lawnmower lacks the power it had when it was first assembled and brought up in Sears.
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by Maximilian on Jun 7, 2009 11:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're still not getting it for a bunch of garage-sale junk though.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2009 11:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hah I was just messing around, man.
Vizquel is not worth Buccholz ever.
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by Maximilian on Jun 7, 2009 11:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope.
Maybe that package could fetch you a shiny new reliever or something like that though. Bard?
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2009 11:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bard seems like an interesting arm to take a look at.
I wonder what it’d take to get Hagadone from them? Perhaps the injury concern/comeback might cheapen the price a bit. I read he is still pretty highly regarded in Red Sox inner circles.
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by Maximilian on Jun 8, 2009 12:30 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
im sorry
i dont think main/vizeuql/blalock/tegarden would get him
not in a million years
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 7, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hate players saying stuff like this.
I'm just goofin' new boot goofin'
by iorange555 on Jun 7, 2009 2:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
normally i would agree
but you cant help but respect vizquel. He’s getting to the end of his career and you can’t blame him for wanting to play more
by texasrangerfan on Jun 7, 2009 7:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh I would so do this trade
Vizqeul, Blalock, TT, and Main for Buckholtz.
by Hull Fan on Jun 7, 2009 4:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Boston
likely would not. They don’t need Blalock, may very likely think of Teagarden as a backup, and see Main struggling in High A.
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by Conjunction on Jun 7, 2009 5:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on...
they are going to need a SS if Lugo keeps playing like he has. Blalock is a huge upgrade over what Ortiz is giving them so far. TT, even if he is a backup, would give them the good young catching prospect they are looking for. Main may be struggling so far, but look what he did last year.
For the people that keep shooting down any trade proposal for Buchholz. he’s not Babe Ruth. If the BoSox had a chance to upgrade 2 spots in their lineup, get a young backup catcher and a good young pitching prospect for just Buchholz they would be crazy not do it. Buchholz is not Halladay or Greinke…at least he hasn’t shown he is yet.
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by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2009 5:47 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
that trade looks so good
i can’t really find the hole in it. Maybe that we are giving up blalock? it seems weird but I feel like it has been nice to have an extra slugger (even if he is a really streaky slugger) given that the offense hasn’t been great to start the season. Not like we can just rely on max.
but yeah, I would still do the trade
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 7, 2009 6:14 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would still want...
a good arm for the ’pen if the Rangers were to offer those four for Buchholz. Although Main is doing a very good job of worrying everyone right now. If it was just for Buchholz then I would either replace TT with MaxRam or downgrade the pitching prospect from Main to a little lower prospect.
But the deal would mkae a lot of sense for both teams. I’d be interested to see what the BoSox fan who occasionally posts here (OCD SS?) thinks of it.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2009 6:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lowrie
Isn’t Lowrie supposed to be coming off the DL soon?
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 7, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 Weeks
This article says three weeks till he most likely comes back to Boston; about one week until minor league rehab starts.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 7, 2009 6:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
They can live with Lugo and Green for that long can't they?
by oc on Jun 7, 2009 7:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would think so...
but MLBTR had some stuff on the Red Sox talking to the A’s (Orlando Cabrerra) and Pirates (Jack Wilson). According to the article, they would rather not take Wilson because he costs more, and they might need some money for another DH. They are probably just doing their due diligence for a worst case scenario.
by Excel Hearts Choi on Jun 7, 2009 7:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
why do they need a SS?
they have this guy named lowrie thats pretty solid and starting his minor league rehab in abt a week lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 7, 2009 11:16 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not a chance Boston would do that.
by Jamey Newberg on Jun 7, 2009 10:45 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
but its 3 major leaguers
for one magic bean!
If only Josey was GM for the Red Sox.
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by DJCahill on Jun 8, 2009 6:21 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Forget about Bucholz
never gonna happen.
And Vizquel (or Blalock) alone is not going to get you Bard, Bowden, or Masterson. If you want a more realistic deal for a reliever, you could try looking at Ramon Ramirez or Delcarmen for Blalock and/or Vizquel.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Jun 7, 2009 11:43 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
random, but i thnk if delcarmen for nick johnson was on th e board
they would have already taken it
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 7, 2009 11:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you're Boston and you've got plenty of relief depth, yup.
I’d rather pry Josh Willingham away from the Nats though.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by lonestarJon on Jun 7, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
meh
they shuold just roll with an OF of willingham, dukes and dunn and let johnson play until they can trade him for something, the move dunn to 1b and call it a day
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:19 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunn in RF
Scary.
"Yeah, like I had a chance there" - Lancaster batter, after striking out against Derek Holland
by chrisR on Jun 9, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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