Sunday morning Rangers things

by Adam J. Morris on Jun 7, 2009 10:32 AM CDT Comment 28 comments

Evan Grant writes that last night's game provides a contrast between where Derek Holland is now, and what the Rangers hope he becomes. Jon Lester consistently threw strikes and got ahead of hitters, while locating his pitches well, whereas Holland struggled to throw first pitch strikes.

Jeff Wilson's game story has some quotes from Holland indicating that he wasn't focused and didn't go after hitters, but Michael Young had praise for Holland and says he wants the Rangers to keep him in the rotation.

Frankie Francisco felt better yesterday, and it sounds like he'll be available today, although he may not be available on back-to-back games for a little while going forward. Matt Harrison, meanwhile, reported no problems after his rehab start yesterday.

The Boston Herald has a story about Boston's interest in Omar Vizquel, and Vizquel's interest in playing for Boston.

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I am probably reading too much into this but.....

“His line isn’t going to look as good as he threw,” Young said. “I’d love to see us keep running him out there. I’m not big on pumping up rookies, but I love this kid. He competes, he wants to be good and he wants to take his game to the next level.”

Does anyone else have a problem with the acknowledged leader of the team having this type of attitude towards rookies?

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by DaheelzCM on Jun 7, 2009 10:43 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

No.

Why would it matter if he talks up rookies to the media?

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 7, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Ok

If it’s just in the media then that’s cool. I took it to mean he didn’t do it at all.

LoneStarBall....You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.

by DaheelzCM on Jun 7, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why should he "pump up rookies"?

Doesn’t that kind of take away from the other people on teams and put more pressure on kids?

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 7, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Nope

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jun 7, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I thought

veterans mostly hazed rookies, and position players didn’t talk to pitchers or vice versa.

"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on Jun 7, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Notes from Josh Lewin, who was on Elf's show this morning:

MY literally ran to the mound to congratulate/console Holland when he knew he was being pulled from the game.

Elvis, while sitting around with the guys watching Stepbrothers (again), during the Catalina Wine Mixer scene, quietly said (paraphrasing a bit here) – ‘That song was originally sung by Andrea Bocelli, who is blind.’ Josh says he is an incognito renaissance man, and is very, very bright.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jun 7, 2009 11:01 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Bocelli

Not meaning to disparage Elvis’ taste or musical knowledge, but Bocelli is pure pop culture, not Renaissance stuff. Knowing Bocelli is blind hardly qualifies one to sip Chianti with the Medicis, Josh.

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by t ball on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

it's still a lot more than I knew at 20

I didn’t figure out about Bocelli being blind until I turned 21

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 7, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm jaded on this

because I’m probably the only guy here who coaches singers and has conducted opera. This will sound cold, but if Bocelli wasn’t a blind teddy bear no one would care about his singing. He’s just not that good. And knowing who he is could just mean you have a mom that watches Oprah.

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by t ball on Jun 7, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

x

He’s just not that good

I disagree, and I’m no fan.

by brettgardner on Jun 7, 2009 2:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I'm reacting

to people who think of him as an opera singer. His technique is poor, freshman voice major in college level, I’m completely serious. Obviously he has other skills and the total package is good from that standpoint, but purely on technique, he would have a hard time passing a junior recital as a voice major. He’s a nice pop singer, no more.

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by t ball on Jun 7, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I just love Con te Partiro

that song’s so awesome…and he’s got a few more that are really good, to me. But yeah I’m no connoisseur of opera.

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 7, 2009 11:52 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Minor typo

“but Michael Young had praise for Young and says he wants the Rangers to keep him in the rotation” of course is praise for Holland.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jun 7, 2009 11:04 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Im calling it now

Vizquel for Buchholzs

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by NYTXFAN on Jun 7, 2009 11:29 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Make it happen but it's going to take more

I’d say Vizquel, Hank, Max and and lower level pitching prospect….

by j-couch on Jun 7, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm

by oc on Jun 7, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Double hmmmm

"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Jun 7, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

i dunno

if thats gonna do it. two rentals, a slumping catcher who prolly won’t catch, and a lower level pitcher who could be hit or miss for a top prospect in baseball… its not like boston hates buch.

"Anyone that isn't pro-choice never met you" ~Brian Thomas on Seth...

by ivysafety39 on Jun 7, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

they did at one point

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Hmmm...

maybe if that pitching prospect was Main.

If Big Papi and Lugo continue to struggle, the Rangers seem to have the pieces they need to match up in a deal. They also would like a young catcher to take over for the Captain when he’s done.

Let’s say Blalock, Vizquel, TT, and Main for Buchholz and a bullpen arm. Would the BoSox do that? Maybe not, but it shouldn’t be too far off either.

"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates

by slc ranger on Jun 7, 2009 12:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

I definitely

want at least two prospects in return if we’re going to be trading away a critical piece of a contending team

Go Rice Owls!

by JBImaknee on Jun 7, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

But not any washed-up AAAA players, right?

I mean, he has to suck if Boston doesn’t want to call him up after years in the minors.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jun 7, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Why wouldn't Boston do it?

A ML shortstop for a minor league pitcher. Even the blind can see this is a no brainer.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 7, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

Boston

gets a future hall of famer for magic beans. How can they not do it.

"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com

by DJCahill on Jun 7, 2009 12:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

If Young wants Holland to stay in the rotation,

who does he think should vacate a spot?

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by t ball on Jun 7, 2009 12:28 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs

Padilla

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 7, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs

MY saying he would like to see

Holland stay in the rotation does give JD the opportunity to do just that and not have the team “whine” about the move later. I think Padilla has a new home before the ASB.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 7, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs