Monday morning Rangers things
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 8, 2009 9:15 AM CDT
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PrintCan't really complain about a 3-3 road trip to Fenway and Yankee Stadium, I don't think.
Vicente Padilla's first start since being placed on waivers was very solid, although he says that there wasn't any special desire to prove the Rangers wrong or anything like that.
Evan Grant thinks Padilla staying and Matt Harrison coming off the d.l. could spell the end of Kris Benson's time with the Rangers, as Derek Holland will be heading back to the bullpen.
Harrison is meeting with Mike Maddux today to see if he will be activated for the start on Thursday, or if he'll make another rehab start. Frankie Francisco, meanwhile, wasn't available yesterday, but is hoping that another day or two of rest will make him good to go.
Kevin Sherrington writes that people expect the Rangers to collapse, but they just keep winning, even with Chris Davis not hitting, Josh Hamilton hurting, one of their starters going unclaimed on waivers, their closer missing time with injury, and their primary setup man having arrived as a waiver claim earlier this season.
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Grrr
Am I the only one who is really annoyed with this BS of SBN auto-linking to their worthless player pages? It kinda gets the actual links on the page a little confused, IMO.
I guess I’ll just have to learn not to click on players names, but damn if it’s not annoying.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
It would be nice
if they had a stat page or something for the players.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
No splits or anything that I'm used to seeing.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
you're not the only one
very, very annoying.
A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.
man 750
thats a huge fine!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
may keep him from getting the extra cupholders in his lambo this year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Thats a few cases
of rum.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
How does MLB justify
banning Burnett for 6 games and giving Padellia a nothing fine? Clearly, Padilla started it all.
The "line" appears to be
throwing at the head. Padilla hit Teixeira in the butt. Burnett threw at Nelson Cruz’ head.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Retaliation is the issue too
When you start something, you get in less trouble than the guy who decided to escalate the matter and retaliate.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
see 90% of personal fouls in the NFL
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
I think you're underrating them
They’re not for you or me so much as a more casual fan who might be coming here and want some basic info on Chris Davis. There are also articles right there that talk about the player. This would be useful for any of us if we wandered over to another team blog looking for info on a recent call up or other player we weren’t too familiar with. If SBN wants to be a successful business they can’t just cater to people who already know everything about these players.
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I thought that's what the tags and related stories where for.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
Just another way
I don’t pay attention to tags much myself.
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If that's the case, then...
make the links a different color. When I check them out, I think, “Oh, Adam’s linking to a story about [player name] or some other news item.”
If they were green or purple or whatever, then it would be easy for our core community to ignore them, and also easy for newer people to identify them for useful information. Two birds with one stone.
I can't stand them.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
By the way
My best friend is a Yankees fan, and I saw her this weekend. When I mentioned Elvis Andrus, she said, “I hate that guy.” I replied with, “Why? Because he’s better than your shortstop at half his age?”
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 8, 2009 9:30 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
*about half his age
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 8, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions
I was at a bar between a yankee and Cub fan
They were giving my crap about the rangers, and i stole a line from here and said:
Elvis eats honey nut Theriots for breakfast, then uses Jeter’s gold gloves as paper weights
Bartender bought me a jager bomb
"Fight ’em ’til hell freezes over, then fight ’em on the ice!" – Dutch Meyer
by CowboyHornedFrogs on Jun 8, 2009 1:08 PM CDT up reply actions
Good
Evan Grant thinks Padilla staying and Matt Harrison coming off the d.l. could spell the end of Kris Benson’s time with the Rangers, as Derek Holland will be heading back to the bullpen.
That whole sentence works for me
Go Rice Owls!
I dunno man
I don’t think being in the bullpen is doing anything but allowing Dutch to rely on his fastball and allow Wash to misuse him.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:41 AM CDT up reply actions
well, the heartier Hurrah was directed at the Benson
part of the quote. Slightly agree about Holland but think he’s going to be ok. I just think he’s a tough kid and will get better no matter where they use him.
I don't think you're giving Holland enough credit
He’s a smart guy. By now, he’s got to realize his fastball alone won’t dominate Major Leauge hitters for a whole game and that he needs to still work on his change-up and slider.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Papi's scowl...
watching him try to steal 2nd base almost had me mess myself laughing so hard…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Mathis the other day - where's Dirkatron?
so it was one outing. But Mathis, to me, looked really good the other day. 94 mph, I didn’t know he could hit that…and just looked a lot better than Mendoza ever has.
Am I the only one thinking this?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
Mendoza's had his own glimmers of hope-causing stuff too.
Not that I’m a Mendoza advocate, but I still think he has better stuff than Mathis. Does he know what to do with it is the question.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions
You know, I used to want to be a bulldozer driver.
That was my lifes goal when I was like 5.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Heh.
Yeah. I was just saying, whenever somebody calls Luis ’Dozer, I kinda think about being 5. Which is kinda cool.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions
I really wish
he would succeed, just so I could see all the kick-ass GDT graphics saying “Bring the in Dozer” and “Call in the Mandozer”… you know, with Bulldozer pictures and all.
But I’ve officially given up all hope for him (which bodes well, at one time I had officially given up all hope on Nelson Cruz).
Does Ed Coffin like Mendoza?
Because maybe that’s all we need to do, is get Ed behind him. Between Cruz and MY’s resurgence the power of the Coff is not to be doubted.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Don't dislike him
But he needs to mature quite a bit. The American League is not Monterrey, and isn’t the PCL. When Luis learns not to go into shock that somebody hits his best stuff, or calls his fave slider a ball, he’ll be pretty good. Maybe this will happen, maybe not. He’s one of those “oughta” cases, that may never reach “did”.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 8, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions
Agree, those would be some awesome graphics
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Yes, less dozer, more bulldozers
Anyone who disapproves of bulldozer talk is no friend of mine. My life and business ambitions are influenced in no small part by an unabiding love for heavy equipment and a desire to own lots of it.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
what business are you in?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
Just graduated law school, studying for the bar right now
But along with practicing law, I’ve got some entrepreneurial aspirations like owning a landfill and a few other things that I’m exploring. And having some ranch country that needs brush to be cleared via dozer.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Only if he's better at that than he is at throwing strikes in The Show
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Oh he'll be fine at it...
on your ranch-on-the-side. It’s when you have a true working ranch, and you seriously need the brush cleared for grass… when money’s on the line and the stakes are high?
All the sudden those trees are just kicking his ass. He’s out there sweating away, but no progress.
by bhudson on Jun 8, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Well done, good sir
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Maybe there's some kind of
’dozer fantasy camp you can go to in the summer.
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When Roy O got his big contract from the Astros a couple of years ago
There was a provision that the Astros would buy him a bulldozer. That was pretty much the coolest MLB contract clause I had ever heard. I became a Roy O fan forever.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
like the bull riding classes they offer...
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
Clearing brush by riding a bull
that’s something only that Dos Equis guy could do.
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And by "Dos Equis guy" you mean "Elvis Andrus"
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I think Elvis
just turns whatever beverage is at hand into whatever he feels like drinking.
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Kind of like he turns whatever ball is in the hole
Into whatever kind of a jump-throw he feels like making?>
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
Oddly enough, the Dos guy is
Jewish.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I'm in the environmental business
Send me an email if you’d like to discuss some of these things.
tod_trice at yahoo
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
any HVAC ties?
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
Cool, will do
I’ll send you one later today.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
awesome
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 9:59 AM CDT up reply actions
me too
when I found out you could make like $150k in Afghanistan or Iraq driving those things
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 9:58 AM CDT up reply actions
if this is the case
i clearly need to make a career change
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:13 AM CDT up reply actions
It's tax free too
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Yeah, better stuff is only half the battle (if that much)
Juan Dominguez had some great stuff, once upon a time.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Yeah, I could go a long time
with seeing Mendoza again.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Impressed that Padzilla kept his cool yesterday,
Especially since it was the most obvious case of getting squeezed with the strike zone that i’ve seen all year.
absolutely terrible
and Youk leaning in to the pitch so the media frenzy could start all over again.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Why is it that we've see this inconsistancy in the strike zone so often this year?
I’ve never seen anything like it.
When I see a solar eclipse I think "oh no, is the moon eating the sun?"
I think AJM's theory a while back was spot on
Before, our pitching was so bad that we never noticed and it didn’t matter all that much. But now that our pitching and defense keeps us in games, we notice the problems.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I mainly notice it when we're playing the Spankees
and the Blow Sox. It bums me out that umps fall victim to that mystique thing. I don’t think there’s a conspiracy, it think it’s just human nature.
what a douche
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:00 AM CDT up reply actions
yeah...
And frustrating to see Matsuzaka get the low strikes. I don’t mind tight strike zones, but I despise different strike zones for opposing pitchers.
I think there are certain players that the umps like to bait, I felt that way with Milton Bradley, and I think Padz gets some of the same treatment.
that was HORRIBLE
CJ got squeezed, too…5 pitches, 3 easy strikes, EASY…and he calls 4 balls
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions
My hope when i see butchery like that is that the umps get
reprimanded, or at least evaluated somehow, but I don’t know how the umps are graded. They also missed the ball down the line to Bay, (think Blalock hit it.)
yay for the new systems they are installingq
to make sure the umps dont suck anymore lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions
link?
unless I have proof, I refuse to believe that this league will ever have true accountability for the umpires.
Grieve: The Yanks have struggled so far. - Lewin: Yeah, cry me a bag of money.
Dykstra has all the money!
ElectricOkra.com
few links
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/04/01/sports/baseball/01umpires.html
http://www.tradingmarkets.com/.site/news/Stock%20News/2257668/
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions
Whining about the strike zone
Please stop. It all balances out in the end, no one team gets squeezed more than all the others.
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I will not. Did you see the game yesterday? Just saying I'm impressed
with the way Padilla handled it
Yeah, Padilla did a good job of not melting down
but I think t ball is right, it pretty much evens out.
I still wish they’d transition to an automated system.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
But it would be the end of baseball as we know it!!!
The automated umpires where created by Bud Selig.
They evolved.
They rebelled.
There are many copies.
And they have a plan.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
Can we make them all
6s?
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
I would think there'd be more three's.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
Yes, he did handle it well
I’m just ranting here, not at you personally. There have been a LOT of posts lately complaining about the strike zone. But the umps suck for both teams in the long run and it just sounds whiny to complain about it.
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But Chris Davis?!?!?!?!?!?
The only reason he K’s so much is the huge strike zone people give him!
Go Rice Owls!
I know it sounds like sour grapes to whine about the strikezone all the time....
…but yesterday was probably the worst that I have ever seen it, and I think most of it has to do with Padilla.
…and I do not think that teams like the Royals and Rangers will have their calls “even out” against teams like the yankees and redsox.
by death of the cool on Jun 8, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions
No, I don't either
There’s a difference between inconsistent strike zones and CJ walking a guy on five pitches with four of them clearly inside the strike zone.
We’re not talking about borderline pitches here, we’re talking about strikes right across the plate.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
It might all balance out in the end, though there is no way to really know that
We’re supposed to watch as our pitcher gets squeezed into giving up walks that could lose us the game and just say, “Meh, I’m sure it will eventually balance out.” Does that sound right? Its not whining if you have something legitimate to complain about.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
It's still whining.
And I generally assume that if an umpire has a small strike zone, he has a small zone for both clubs. Only fan bias makes us believe that the ump is out to get us.
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No
Check out the GDTs. There were people complaining when Padilla was getting squeezed and then Dice-K was getting that exact call.
Also, there were other blatantly missed calls by the umpire that went for both teams, but the low strike thing went against Padilla all day. Also, there were the missed calls on the Vizquel play at home and the Blalock ball down the foul line. Those were tough calls to make but just further show the lack of quality in a lot of Major League umpires. These are plays that could change games and clearly went against the Rangers.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Its whining
if both sides are getting the same zone. The couple time I’ve looked at charts of the game, it was roughly even.
I just folks around Dallas are conditioned by the Mavericks to always whine at the officials.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Both sides weren't getting the same zone
Padilla wasn’t getting the low strike called for him at all in some innings.while Dice K was. Maybe overall, the number of missed calls were the same, but it wasn’t the same zone and Padilla was clearly getting squeezed on at least a 2 of his walks yesterday (can’t remember if it was more).
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Holland; Padilla; team winning in spite of itself
I’d like to see Holland go to the bullpen for a few more weeks and work on pitching with a plan and mixing up his pitches a bit more. He’s going to be very good, maybe as soon as this summer, easy to forget how young he and Harrison are.
Padilla wasn’t trying to prove anything. Right.
It is kind of amazing how well the team is doing in spite of some of the expected key contributors not really hitting their strides yet. Actually that’s putting it kindly with some. Defense, a hot streak of good pitching last month, and the bats of Young, Cruz, and at times, Kinsler have carried the club. Lately CJ, Darren, and Eddie have been Money. I’m a little worried about Frankie…Does anyone here not expect a trade for a reliever sometime in the next month?
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I think the club has shied away from accquiring releif help because of the price involved
Whether it’s money or prospects they don’t seem willing to spend it on what has a tendency to be a short-term commodity. And I can appreciate the frugalness, but if we really wanna go for it this year, trading for a late-inning arm and a high OBP bat to replace Hank would really be nice if it’s done right.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
by LSJ on Jun 8, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions
Plus
Newberg has touched on the fact that whatever we want to acquire via trade, the asking price from the Rangers is probably going to be higher, prospect-wise, than most any other team simply because we have so much more to offer.
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Newberg has touched on the fact that whatever we want to acquire via trade, the asking price from the Rangers is probably going to be higher, prospect-wise, than most any other team simply because we have so much more to offer.
I don’t really agree with this.
I mean, might someone ask for more? Maybe.
But are they going to take a lesser deal from another team than they would from Texas? I doubt it.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 8, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree with Adam
Teams are well aware that TX 15th prospect might be as good as another team’s 5th. They can ask for more but they’re not going to turn down a player they like just because he comes from TX.
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Yes and No
It’s easy to imagine one of those situations where a team is more willing to hold out on making a deal with Texas because if it thinks Texas is desperate and the system is deeper. This may ultimately result in a deal not going through.
If you’re a GM trying to make a deal with, say, Houston who has little depth by giving up a reliever. Houston offers you someone like Bud Norris. Well, you aren’t exactly going to hold out for Jason Castro, who is there only decent high-end prospect. But with Texas, it may make sense to “hold out” for Beavan instead of Boscon and hope Texas gets desperate. Not because you’d rather have Bud Norris over Boscon. But because there is the possibility you can extract more.
Along these same lines, I think teams will always “demand more” from Texas if they are giving Texas pitching, because the presumption of desperation is there (even if it isn’t real).
Go Rice Owls!
Ultimately
if JD sticks to his guns and calls their bluffs, it won’t matter. But it does add another level to the negotiating.
Go Rice Owls!
JD has been good about sticking to his guns on trade offers the last few years
So if anyone can pull it off, I think he’s the man.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Part of it
Is I doubt teams are willing to part with middle relief help this early. Trading your bullpen is a sign that you’re throwing in the towel, and we’re still a bit early for GMs to concede the season. Wait until July and I think we might be able to acquire a middle relief arm for a reasonable price.
I agree with you, I don’t want to see us mortgage a decade-long dynasty just to go all-in this year, but if we could get one more 7th/8th inning guy that would make this bullpen borderline dominant.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Daniels is looking for relief help
Daniels said a bullpen upgrade remains his short-term focus on the trade market. But he added, “We’re open to improving the club any way we can.”
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/9657734/Rangers-await-injury-reports-on-star-OF,-closer
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it hurt seeing Ramon Ramirez pitch so well yesterday. That was
a great move by the BlowSox to get him for the price of Coco Crisp.
Crisp is a useful player though.
it’s not like they gave up crap
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
Yeah. At the time i was wishing that we had traded
Byrd or Murphy for him, but maybe that wouldn’t have been such a good idea now with Hamilton out. The Sox might be regretting it too if Ellsbury is out for a while.
elllsbury
man, what a player
would you guess that his career ops+ is 92? lol
man, what a STUD! lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
not to say he doesnt have value, but
hes not the second coming of the r henderson
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:16 AM CDT up reply actions
And he might be the frattiest looking guy in baseball
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
he looks like julianna marguiles
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Then I'd have to do him....
But I wouldn’t like it….
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
by bking on Jun 8, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions 2 recs
Don't ruin Julianna Marguiles for me.
"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."
Yes. He's overrated because of things like the catch he made yesterday,
and because he plays for the Red Sox. I think he’s hitting over his head this year.
Yet still
better than Mayberry, or Golson too for that matter.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
well yea
but a lot of red sox fans i know act like the guy is a star
hes living off his playoffs 2+ years ago
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions
Tacoby Bellsbury
Kind of what I expect Borbon to be.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
Where did that name come from?
As in Teacoby Bellsbury? Because I have been calling him that for years, it seems.
IIRC
During the run for their last WS win, there was a promotion that promised free tacos at Taco Bell if he stole a base. There’s an article here.
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 8, 2009 10:55 AM CDT up reply actions
I think it was a free taco if anybody stole a base during the WS
And he ended up being the one to do it, thus providing America with free tacos.
And it’s really frikkin’ funny to me how you can just fit it right into his name.
There’s no crying in baseball but pedicures are fine! --- BigGuns
That's pretty much what I meant
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 8, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions
I bet we see a trade for a front line reliever
at some point. I wouldn’t at all be surprised to see the Sox come hard after Vizquel – their pen is LOADED and they have more pitching in the minors on the way
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions
There seemed to be a "meh" response to a possible Delcarmen trade over the winter
But I would LOVE to have that guy in the bullpen right now. Delcarmen, Ceej, O’Day, and Eddie in the 7th/8th plus backing up Two Frank whenever he needs to take a night off would be a beastly, lights-out bullpen.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
yes.
this bullpen went from horrible to pretty good so far…it would be nice to take the next step. Add Holland into that mix for now, as it seems we’re keeping Milly, Vinny, B-Mac, Harrison and Feldman as our starting 5 for the foreseeable future. THAT is a nice bullpen, and if we add Feliz towards the end of the year…wow.
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions
Delcarmen...
would love to have him added but if the Rangers can’t swing that trade, what about Kiko Calero from the Marlins?
We had him at one point.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
How fast does Kiko throw?
I’m in no way one of those guys who thinks flamethrowers are the answer, but with Eddie and Jennings rounding out the 7th/8th inning already, it seems like we’d be best off adding a guy who mows ’em down with the heat.
I have no idea if either team would even be interested in making a deal, but I have fixated on Heath Bell as my “dream” addition to this bullpen. Mid-90s fastball, lots of strikeouts, track record of success as a set-up man, ability to close games.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Bullpen Help
Rather than pay for a bullpen arm (given the up and down nature of bullpen guys), why don’t we just wait for Feliz? A pen anchored by Holland, Feliz, CJ, O’Day and Frankie would by pretty solid for the stretch run.
by Jack Nicholson 1974 on Jun 8, 2009 10:22 AM CDT up reply actions
Because
if you have a good chance to make the playoffs you go for it. I’d like to see the team acquire a very good righty bullpen arm rather than take their chances with Feliz. It kind of depends on their lead at the trade deadline. If the team has a comfortable lead at the deadline, say, 6 or 7 games, I might be more inclined to roll the dice with Feliz given how well they’ve played against the Angels so far this year.
If they sweep the Angels before the all star break, you can take more chances. Of course, any bullpen arm is a bit risky, so even a trade for an established guy has it’s risks I suppose.
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work on pitching with a plan
That is tough to do when brought into a game with men in scoring position. Wash needs to start bringing Holland into games to start off an inning. Let him pitch 2-3 innings every 3-4 days.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
That's funny about Maddux being out
to see his daughter graduate…. when Hawkins came out to the mound on Sunday, I thought it was Maddux and that he had shaved the Zappa-stache, which i thought was ill-advised seeing as the Rangers were winning.
I got in the game 2/3 of the way through and I couldn't figure out why Hawkins was in the dugout
Makes sense now.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
first place mother effin Texas Rangers?
by texasraider on Jun 8, 2009 9:54 AM CDT reply actions 3 recs
someone needs to find Rodney
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
Busy, got docs in this weekend.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
So, uh, anybody notice
that Michael Young is hitting .336?
Ranger 3B are second in the AL (only behind Tampa) in OPS at .922.
Face Haters need to suck it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 10:01 AM CDT reply actions 1 recs
and has what, 80 hits now???
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
it's amazing what a little health can do
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 10:04 AM CDT up reply actions
if only that made up for his defense at 3b
lol i keed i keed
he has suprised me this year…i didnt think he would be this good — as long as hes not in the 3 hole im fairly happy lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:17 AM CDT up reply actions
Face
along with Nelson Cruz are team MVP’s thus far.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Wrong
Kinsler and Cruz.
Young hasn’t been as good offensively as those two, and he’s been much worse defensively.
(Waiting for the inevitable “he kept this thing from dying in April” rant)
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 8, 2009 10:25 AM CDT up reply actions
Adam
Have you seen Kinsler’s road stats?
Batting Average – .182 (Young hitting .300)
OBP – .244 (Young .336) – kind of a big deal when you realize Kinsler is lead-off man
OPS – .661 (Young .882)
Try again.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
defense doesn't count for anything these days.
(Wife) "So what do you want to watch on the T.V.? UFC or porn?"
(Husband) "Hmm... well, porn, I guess."
And while we're talking about how Young kept this thing from dying in April
The Texas Rangers are 29-16 since MYoung went to the plate v. Kyle Farnsworth in the bottom of the 9th on April 19th.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
This thing is 30-18 since Hammy stole a base aginst Hendrickson
on April 15th.
So what?
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 8, 2009 10:43 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
Rodney
Congrats on a post that didn’t include anything about your stint in the Air Force.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
i havent noticed many posts of his that do talk about
him being in the military…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
I've been here a while
And had no idea whatsoever that Rodney was in the Air Force.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Josey has an axe to grind
With certain people on here.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Partly right
Josey likes to pull out old taunts when he has no come back in the argument at hand.
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So Adam,
do you include road stats when trying to figure out team MVP’s?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I'm still trying to figure out what you said on the podcast
about the improved pitching being much more about the improved defense instead of Nolan Ryan having any kind of influence yet you cited that the 3B defense on this team was terrible.
Seemed more than a little contradictory and like you more interested in discrediting a couple of people associated with the Rangers that you obviously don’t like.
Kinsler’s .244 road obp as a leadoff hitter is much more damaging to this team than Young’s defense this year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
if you look at the stats of the pitchers
you see that they really havent been that much better than last year, and that the defense has been MUCH better than last year
and yes, the 3b defense has been god aweful this year.
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions
So
If I understand you correctly, the only thing that matters to you in evaluating a team MVP is road OBP?
The MVPs through today are Kinsler and Cruz.
I try to take everything into consideration, FPants
A .244 obp is unacceptable.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
x
about the improved pitching being much more about the improved defense instead of Nolan Ryan having any kind of influence yet you cited that the 3B defense on this team was terrible.
Seemed more than a little contradictory and like you more interested in discrediting a couple of people associated with the Rangers that you obviously don’t like.
No, it isn’t contradictory, and I think your second paragraph is more about projecting than interpreting what I’m saying.
The defense-independent stats for the pitching staff this season is pretty similar to the staff last year.
The Rangers’ team defense as a whole has been much better than last year — 2B, SS, CF, and 1B, in particular.
Young has been crappy defensively this year, but the third base defense last year was also crappy.
Your suggestion that it is contradictory makes as much sense as saying that, well, Team X’s offense is better than last year, but the #3 hitter is hitting like crap, so therefore that can’t be right and is a contradiction.
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 8, 2009 12:42 PM CDT up reply actions
Also
You are making one of these two logically fallacies.
Composition (Because the parts have a property, the whole is said to have that property)
Division (Because the whole has a property, the parts are said to have that property)
by Adam J. Morris on Jun 8, 2009 12:49 PM CDT up reply actions
Ah Philosophy of Logical Reasoning.
I already miss that class.
Rock Flag & Eagle Radio: Thursdays 10 PM - 1 AM on FM 88.7 The Choice
"Computers can’t measure the size of a man’s heart."
- Hawk Harrelson, MLB Guru/Analyst
And I'm already happy I never have to take a class like that
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Have you seen Young's stats with RISP?
Batting average – .149 (Kinsler .368)
OBP – .229 (Kinsler .418)
OPS – .170? (Kinsler .681)
You try again….
Granted, the sample size is smaller but you can make a point either way and back it up with stats.
If you want some slack, bring your own rope.
by rangerfaninva on Jun 8, 2009 1:13 PM CDT up reply actions
Don't know if i agree with the MVP thing
but I think they should make MY the team captain. It would be a nice honor for him and it would formalize what’s the case anyway.
What, just so they can trade him two days later???
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
he doesnt deserve the captain
after his bitchy little girl act this offseason
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions
knockoutking
Face is the unquestioned leader of this team and a big reason it’s sitting in first place in early June.
You need to get past him treating Donuts like dogshit on his cleats last January.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
You need to get past
the idea that you know what Michael Young is thinking. You don’t. Young has played an important part in the team’s success this year. You need to get past the idea that somehow people here, who follow the team at least as closely as you do, are unaware of that.
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No Elvis is a big reason
This team is sitting in first place in early June. He gets to balls Face could only dream of getting too. Not to mention Elvis is hitting better than what we all thought he would. I like FFace but if he were still at ss this team might be over .500 but not where it’s at right now. JD was right to move FFace and FFace knows it.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Elvis has played a very big part in this team
playing well but he’s not the MVP.
The Andrus decision didn’t belong to Donuts and apparently rested with Nolan (per RG).
If this decision came from Donuts I think it he would have made sure it was leaked to one of his Usual Suspects.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Hilarious.
I’m amazed at your detailed knowledge of the inner workings of the Rangers front office. I love how you use words like “apparently” to give a veneer of truth to something that’s really just your spin to prove your bias.
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tball
I know people in here don’t like RG because he also gives Donuts the MYoung treatment but I can’t remember a time where he has knowingly lied.
He may have an opinion that’s off-base. Yes, he was wrong about the Herschel Walker trade but so was Tom Landry.
He said last month that (bringing up Elvis and shifting Young to 3B) “It wasn’t out there but Nolan wanted this move last year.”
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
and how is moving a kid who has ZERO AA at bats
to the majors, at age what 18ish going to be putting either the team or the player in a position to do well?
thats pretty close to david clyde bullshit there…
thank god he andrus didnt play at SS last year
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions
I did not say anything about RG
but he has exactly the same motive as you in spinning this so that it looks like Daniels had nothing to do with it. Daniels has been pursuing up the middle defense guys as long as he’s been GM.
You like to denigrate Daniels for pissing off Young by telling him he needed to move to 3B. But then you want to claim it was Ryan’s idea. So you’re not only shooting the messenger, you’re unrealistically claiming that a move of that magnituded would not have been talked to death in the front office, Daniels included. And once again conveniently forgetting that Ryan endorses Daniels and they get along well.
Welcome to Josey’s Fantasy Island. Smiles, everyone, smiles.
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tball
I don’t know what was the best way to tell Young this was going to happen and JD has said he wishes it could have been handled differently.
JD had so little credibility within the clubhouse and probably didn’t realize to what extent he was the fart in the room.
Upon further review, Nolan should have been the person who talked to Young and left JD out of it given how the players felt about him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
You are the only one
who thinks Daniels has no credibility in the clubhouse. I have not seen one writer, player, or reporter make that assertion anywhere. You are the only one. Wake up and smell the bias, joker.
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Credibility in the clubhouse
Jesus, you’re still relying on Kevin Mench’s statement? The guy’s so dumb he doesn’t know what size shoes to wear! Just because you say something over and over doesn’t make it true.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
I stand corrected.
One player who can’t even keep his job in Japan and has an axe to grind thinks Daniels has no credibility.
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And let's not forget...
…that when Mench made those comments he was not a part of the Rangers clubhouse. No player has ever said JD has no credibility in the clubhouse.
Any by golly if they had, you know Galloway would have reported it
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
would you have supported NR moving FOTF to 3b last year
and elvis to SS even though he had all of 0 AB at AA or above? because evidently he wanted to do it according to a story
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions
I didn't support the NR move of Andrus into the line-up
this year so hell no, I wouldn’t have supported it last year.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
So, the "fact" that NR wanted it last year is useless info...
Isn’t it possible that JD wanted it this year, once he had reason to believe Andrus might be ready, and that NR agreed?
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
bking
This is a rabbit hole argument and we don’t know all the machinations behind the decision.
Apparently Nolan wanted this to happen last year and was talked out of it for a variety of reasons but it happened this year.
We also know, per Tom Hicks, things don’t go down with this organization unless Nolan approves which is probably the biggest reason why the dumbassery of the Ranger FO came to a sudden screeching halt in February 2008.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Yes, there was only dumbassery prior to February 2008
Nothing good had happened in the pre-Nolan tenure of JD. JD’s tenure was a bleeping disaster prior to then, with a cipher on the positive side of the ledger and a sideways 8 on the negative side of the ledger. That guy sucks.
Sincerely,
Carlos Lee, Nelson Cruz, Neftali Feliz, Jarrod Saltalamacchia, Matt Harrison, Beau Jones, Maximilliano Ramirez, David Murphy, Kason Gabbard, Engel Beltre, Michael Main, Blake Beavan, Neil Ramirez, Tommy Hunter, and Julio Borbon
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Cruz
Isn’t JD just keeping him on the roster so he can justify that dumb-ass trade he made for Carlos Lee a couple years back?
I’m pretty sure that’s what Josey said.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Pretty sure he is. Certainly not for that 150 OPS+.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I'm on board with Cruz now
but if JD felt so strong about him, why did he cut him and then not bring him up until late August?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
He sucked and then he was injured.
Pretty simple, really. No, wait, you’re right, the fact that 29 teams could have had him for $20,000 is just a coincidence. Daniels is stupid.
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Immediately after the Lee trade went down
I heard a comment, I think from Gammons, that the real prize of the trade was not Carlos Lee. Rather, the young Rangers GM Jon Daniels was after this Nelson Cruz, a Triple-A guy with the potential to be an All-Star slugger.
Now, Cruz certainly took his own sweet time in reaching that potential. You ask why JD cut him – well, Cruz’s lack of options and the roster decisions at the end of spring training sort of left JD with no choice. He had to take the chance Cruz could slide through waivers and then reinvent himself at Oklahoma. You ask why JD didn’t bring him up until August – in that Cruz had been a notorious tease for two years and that he was out of options, doesn’t it make sense that JD would be careful in purchasing his contract, making sure that this time Cruz was for real and it wasn’t just deja vu.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Whoaaa
You state that we don’t know the machinations of this decision. However, minutes ago – literally minutes – you said:
The Andrus decision didn’t belong to Donuts and apparently rested with Nolan (per RG).
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
Machinations of the decision...
was it initially NR’s idea last year and was he then talked out of it?
was it Donuts pushing this and was it then approved by Nolan?
That’s what I’m saying when I mention the machinations of the decision.
Some things might be his idea and other things might be from Donuts but Nolan Ryan is the ultimate decision-maker.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
There are more than two people
in on this kind of discussion. A move of that magnitude, and definitely an overall philosophy of improving the defense, is likely discussed by the entire front office many, many times, with different people present at different times. I think you are accurate in saying that Ryan probably gives a nod to the biggest decisions, but I doubt he’s dotting every I and crossing every T. He simply doesn’t have time for all that.
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That might be what you're saying at 12:45
But that’s not what you said at 11:52. You already said that bringing up Andrus wasn’t JD’s decision and that it was Nolan’s. Then you say you have no idea who made the decision, a fact we all know. Finally, you imply that Nolan makes all personnel decisions. How do you know that?
You’re taking three different stances in the same argument, which is kind of psychotic.
Do you just contradict yourself as much as possible with the hope that one argument will turn out right?
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
WyoRanger
For clarity -
Nolan is the ultimate decision-maker.
Who gets credit for various ideas? That’s the mystery but who ultimately makes the decision is very clear.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
OK, so by that logic
When Wash fills out a lineup card that has everyone scratching their heads, that’s Nolan. Picking up O’Day was Nolan. Signing Benson was Nolan. Last year’s record was because of Nolan as is this year’s.
I disagree. People have roles and jobs. Wash does in game management, JD’s in charge of personnel and Nolan’s in charge of the business side. Does that mean the three don’t talk to each other about various matters? Of course. But that doesn’t mean that Nolan “decided” to bring up Elvis nor has Nolan decided to not send CD down.
Remember Red, hope is a good thing. Maybe the best of things. And no good thing ever dies.
WyoRanger
We have agreeance that game management belongs to Wash.
Personnel? That’s on Nolan. If Donuts comes up with a trade, we’ve been told by the owner of the team that it has to be run by Nolan before it gets approved.
There weren’t too many people (me included) in here that was on board with Andruw Jones being a Ranger but AJM made it very clear in March this was Nolan’s baby (along with Wash & Rudy).
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Personnel is on Nolan alone?
Weren’t the reports saying that Nolan wanted Wash gone last year but JD said he wanted to keep him? To me, that seems like a good bit of teamwork between the two since if Nolan was the clear decider on personnel, then why would he listen to JD?
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
"who ultimately makes the decision is very clear."
In your mind but in reality it is a bit different.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
When Donuts goes to the Winter Meetings
without NR, I’ll start to believe he’s being allowed to make a final decision.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
clearly
i mean, didnt you know that~!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
so NR can make mistakes?
who knew!
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
michael young
is a leader of the rangers like tony romo is the leader of the cowboys
they are leader in name only — and while FOTF may be a quiet leader, hes not one that has been very vocal other than with what, the CJ wilson “douchebag” comment (which, for what its worth i think its pretty damn true)
i would def say that kinsler is way more of a leader of the team than young…and his actions in the offseason show that hes anything but a leader. basically he said fuck the team, i like being the SS and if you dont want me there trade me — great leadership. way to show those young players how to do it
michael young is a player that i lost a lot of respect for when he got so upset about moving to another position, and the fact that the move worked out almost perfectly for the rangers so far shouldnt be overlooked (werent you the one that was mad the rangers demanded he move positions instead of asking him politely to change?)
elvis may not be the MVP right now, but he is the posterboy for the rangers “changes” this year.
the fact of the matter is that the rangers (and anyone who looked any futher than skin deep at his defense) realized that young is a VERY overrated SS but has the tools that could and probably will transfer to 3B very well. if your looking to get your best players on the field, then whats wrong with the change they made? the black hole that was 3b last year is now plugged with a solid player (defense will come around i think), SS is now in better shape than last year…so how is it a bad thing for the rangers now or in the future?
i would agree with you 100% about him being a leader had he not demanded a trade and threw a hissy fit about moving to 3B…but that is bush league….so if the rangers trade feliz for say, chase utley (obv not gonna happen) and kinsler has to move to the OF, is it ok for him to bitch and moan about it and demand a trade?
what is any different than his situation and sori’s? other than the fact that he realized sooner than later he better move…both complained, and sori got BLASTED for not wanting to move, but you are willing to defend FOTF in almost the same situation?
come on — yes, FOTF has been a plus on offense.he also has a LONGLONGLONG way to go on defense, think of him as the reverse chris davis…if you want him to be benched for his horrible offense, then it shuold be the same for FOTF’s horrible defense — because as bad as davis has been with the bat this year, thast almost equally how bad young has been with the glove (difference is that FOTF has been one of the 5 worst defensive players in BASEBALL while davis is one of the 5 worst 1B offensive players in baseball)
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
knockoutking
It doesn’t really matter how you feel about Young – it’s how his teammates feel about him.
He’s THE leader of the team.
Period.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Replace "Young" with "Wash"
and that comment kinds bounces right back at you, doesn’t it??
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
shockingly, there is no response to this post
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
how do you think his teammates feel
about a guy who doesnt want to change positions for the GOOD OF THE TEAM and wants to be traded because of his ego about playing SS?
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions
Given Young's track record with the organization
and JD’s track record with the organization plus the fact that Young is one of the more universally respected figures throughout MLB, I don’t think Young’s teammates had a problem with him back in January.
Factor in how Young has not pouted once spring training began, personally kept this thing from dying in April and is having one of his better years at the plate while learning one of the more difficult positions in the game, I’d say Young still has a lot of street cred in the room and throughout MLB.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Young
So, if he personally kept this thing from dying in April, what the hell was Hicks paying the other 24 players for?
Seems to me like we could have had a one-man roster, and saved some cash by sending those other guys down to AAA until they decided to contribute as much as Face.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
JD's track record
Since, by my very rough count somewhere around 18 of the current players were signed, traded for, or drafted by Jon Daniels, I’m pretty sure the vast majority of the clubhouse doesn’t have a problem with him.
Go Rice Owls!
I can't imagine Young would either
Seeing as how JD and Hicks gave the man 80 million dollers
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
so basically
throw out the fact that he demanded a trade because his ego couldnt handle being moved to 3b?
i sure as hell would have a problem with it if i was in the clubhouse
re: MY’s street cred in the room and throughout baseball — i bet JD has some of that too lol
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions
If I do recall, "Doug's" sources are
from the Washington National FO.
Everybody seems smart to them.
I also don’t take anything Jamey says in regards to Donuts (or Tom Hicks) with an ounce of seriousness.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Ironic
I also don’t take anything Jamey says in regards to Donuts (or Tom Hicks) with an ounce of seriousness.
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I don't believe there is a bigger cheerleader for Donuts
arond than Jamey.
I learn all I can about the Great Game from a blend of information and Jamey has some good takes but you have to realize his motivations when he writes.
I’d rather read about what Jamey thinks about some perceived spare in Bakersfield than how he feels about Donuts.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Hmmm
“I learn all I can about the Great Game from a blend of information and Jamey has some good takes but you have to realize his motivations when he writes.”
You really don’t have an irony detector, do you?
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Meaning?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
You and Randy Galloway.
He seems to be your only/primary source on a lot of the “Nolan Ryan is saving this franchise by himself” type statements. I’ve never heard this from any beat writer, and frankly those are the guys who have the true inside on the team.
You know what literary critic people say? If one person has a crazy idea, it doesn’t have a lot of merit, and you need further backup. When Randy Galloway is your only source, you need some other external confirmation.
So
jwiscarson,
You believe that it was all coincidental that the Ranger FO dumbassery ended in February ’08 (it was alive and well that off-season see Broussard, Jennings/ Galarraga)?
Nolan also said he would sit back for a year an observe before implementing change and all of the sudden the team is 33-23 and yet that’s another coincidence.
Got it.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Actually
There was plenty of non-dumbassery that took place prior to February 2008. The most prominent names are listed in a post of mine farther up this subthread.
But I don’t expect you to admit that JD did some good on his own before Nolan came to town.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Covered in the above comment...
Before Nolan signed on, we had a plan in place to rebuild with talent on the farm system. Plans like this take time to implement.
I do believe that Nolan has a positive effect on this team, and that he’s a very smart businessman. His presence gives the team a lot of credibility with the public, but you act like he is judge, jury, and executioner based on the sentiments of one columnist.
You also dodged my point regarding other people corroborating Galloway’s perspective. Do you have a response here?
I don't know of anybody in the DFW media
that believes NR has been a negative addition.
Do you?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
That isn't what I suggested, Josey.
I said that you need corroboration that Nolan is behind the moves that Randy Galloway said he is.
I’m still waiting.
I don;t know of any other sources
that corroborate what Galloway said per Nolan making moves.
I also don’t know of anybody who NR trusts more in the media than Galloway.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I don't understand this.
Why would he trust Galloway more than Evan Grant, Jeff Wilson, Richard Durrett, etc.? Galloway isn’t at every game, and doesn’t have a personal relationship with these guys, whereas the others are all beat writers who give the team their due on a daily basis.
I’m also curious as to how you know he trusts only Galloway.
jwiscarson
RG gets Nolan on his radio show all the time plus he seems to be the one who gets the first interview on the big columns (when Hicks is selling team or when Ryan talked Young into playing 3B).
I don’t know but I have to guess.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Nolan talks to Chuck Morgan
too, so maybe Morgan is his favorite? He also appeared pretty chummy with Evan Grant on a video interview recently, so maybe he likes Grant?
You are awesome at justifying your bias, just awesome.
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Chuck Morgan?
He’s not in the media.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Wow
you directly replied to the topic of the post, good job!
You are correct about Morgan, but my point is that Ryan appears on all kinds of radio, tv, internet video, etc. but somehow you’ve selected Galloway as his favorite once again proving your mind reading powers.
Congrats on having ESP and knowing all the thoughts of Nolan Ryan!
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There must be only one explanation
For Nolan’s appearances on Galloway’s show: that he trusts Galloway more than anyone else in the D-FW sports media.
JW, did you ever think that there could be other factors in play as well? Such as the fact that, for better or worse, Galloway is one of the more recognizable names in the media and has one of the more famous local sports radio shows, so that appearing on his show is an efficient way to speak to a sizeable contingent of Rangers fans?
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Aggie
That’s one explantion why but NR wouldn’t go on the show or cooperate as much as he does for his columns unless he trusted him.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Because he's the top non-owner
guy from the organization and it’s part of his job to talk to the media. He talks to all of the local media, a lot, not just Galloway.
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yep
he’s been on the ticket 3 or 4 times in the past few weeks.
"He will not coddle them. Nolan Ryan doesn’t coddle." - Jeff Passan
The worst thing about Nolan Ryan signing
Was knowing 100%, for a fact, that Josey would come here when the team was winning and say it was all Nolan and that JD did nothing
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
-The Outlaw
Meaning
The part where you said “you have to realize his motivations when he writes” could just as easily be applied to you where Daniels is concerned.
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
I will give JD credit for good moves.
Trading for VP was a steal.
I have never, ever read anything negative from Jamey in regards to both JD & Hicks although those two twits are two of the biggest reasons this thing has staggered for the last several years.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I'll fix your post
I have never, ever read anything negative enough for my tastes from Jamey in regards to both JD & Hicks, etc.
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Well
Your source that JD isn’t respected is Kevin Mench.
How’s that any more credible? Other than it supports your point of view?
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
Don't expect him to respond
He hasn’t responded to my post on Cruz
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Who was it that had the come to Jesus meeting
with Kevin Millwood about getting his fat ass in better condition?
Millwood was a fat fuck in 2007 and pitched ineffectively.
How come JD didn’t talk to him about his conditioning?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I'm not trying to get into this all Nolan or all JD crap,
but can’t you kind of understand why Nolan might have a little more credibility with talking to a pitcher about pitching than JD? This wasn’t one of those mandates that nothing happens in the organization without NR’s approval. This was a HOF pitcher trying to get through to a talented, but out-of-shape pitcher.
How many players
on the current first-place 25-man roster were not acquired by Daniels? (Checking Scott Lucas’ database…) Francisco, Young, Blalock, Kinsler, Feldman…Boggs
So, nearly 80% of the first place roster was acquired on Daniels’ watch.
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do you understand
that the whole “x player came into the year in the best shape of their careers/learned a new pitch/gained 15 pounds of muscle/lost 15 pounds of fat” rarely is something that translates into something that is “good” during the year
do you think that NR also had a come to jesus talk with cruz before last year?
maybe he should have had a come to jesus meeting with hamiltion about not getting injured too…
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 12:26 PM CDT up reply actions
You are as wrong on all of this as you were
on the 73-89 prediction for the Rangers record this year. Only smart thing you have ever done on this board is to refuse to bet me that the rangers would be better than 78 wins.
by Michael Cave on Jun 8, 2009 12:31 PM CDT up reply actions
But yet...
You take EVERYTHING Galloway says about JD with plenty of seriousness.
You’re free to say Jamey is a cheerleader for JD, but if you do you have to admit Galloway has more than just a small axe to grind on the same subject.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Galloway typically does throw Donuts under the bus
but he actually wrote a complimentary column on the Tex Trade when the Yankees were in town.
I have never seen Jamey write anything that could be construed as criticism of Donuts or Hicks.
Wasn’t it 10 days ago or so (whenever Hicks announced the team was for sale) that Jamey wrote a very glowing assessment of Tom Hicks and his ownership of the team?
Nevermind that just last month an unbiased source like CNNSI ranked Hicks as the second worst owner in MLB.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
who in their right mind
can complain about the teix trade right now?
it gave us 3 current starters (salty/andrus/harrison) + feliz + a guy that could be a servicable bullpen arm down the road or be worth nothing
its a win-win deal if you look at it as just salty/andrus/harrison
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions
Well by golly then!
After literally everyone in America has lauded the trade, many calling it the best trade in a few years, the last decade, etc., and after Baseball Prospectus praised it as a truly legendary franchise-altering trade, Galloway decides to hop on the bandwagon and write a “complimentary column.”
Now that he’s done that, he’s clearly objective!
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I think SDO trading all those
bags of shit to Texas for CYoung & AG currently trumps the Tex Trade.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
You're the only one who thinks that
Last time I checked, no one anywhere is praising San Diego for the improvements generated by that trade.
San Diego won that trade, but it’s not exactly franchise-altering.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
San Diego went to the playoffs in 2006
and took another step forward in terms of wins/losses in 2007 (won 89 games). It took a miracle finish by the Rox to keep them out of the Wild Card.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
There's a difference between a good trade
And a franchise-altering one.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
Actually
AG is a franchise altering player, he’s almost in the same class as Pujols. SD is so bad, he’s a drop in the Pacific Ocean. However, he keeps the team with Peavy on the edge or respectibilty. The main problem with SD is the 40 million payroll, and the bad management.
Don't disagree with AG's quality or SD's problems
But that doesn’t make it a franchise-altering trade. A franchise altering trade changes the course of a franchise’s direction in one fell swoop.
The Teixeira trade did just that: the Rangers went from a bad farm system with a good first baseman to a great farm system with five prospects, four of whom were BA 100 guys and potentially big league starters, one of them a top five pitching prospect and potential ace.
The AG trade is akin to the Bagwell/Larry Andersen trade: it helped one team more than the other, but it didn’t change either franchise’s course of direction.
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
are you kidding me?
chris young is league average at best anywhere other than SD
adrian gonzalez is good, but i guarantee you in a heartbeat they would trade him for salty/andrus/harrison
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
AG for Salty/Andrus/Harrison
I’d be surprised if San Diego makes that deal. They’d consider it for a few seconds, but I don’t think it is as foregone a conclusion as you think. To get AGon, you’d need the 2009 versions Salty, Elvis, Feliz and Harrison. Which the Braves would never have given up for Tex.
Adrian Gonzalez is FAR AND AWAY the best player in that deal. Anyone who calls it the “Chris Young” deal is not in touch with reality. You could make an argument right now that Adrian Gonzalez is one of the top three or four most valuable players in baseball right now.
Go Rice Owls!
Yeah, especially when you look
at his home and away splits. He suffers badly from Petco.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
why would you be suprised?
they have huge holes at SS and C
they have kyle blanks at 1b
i think they def think about it (it comes down to how much value AG has to them from a marketing viewpoint imho)
i think they would take the 2008 versions of all of the players involved — they would most def do the same deal in a heartbeat (the teix deal) for the same reasons we did
they are not going anywhere this year, they have no farm system to speak of and may move peavy and AG at the deadline
and new management
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Gonzalez
Is among guys like Pujols in value. I’m pretty sure the Teixeira package isn’t sufficient to get him from the Padres.
The Padres may consider trading Gonzalez to fill some holes, but I’m thinking they’be calling Baltimore for Wieters and Matusz before they’re talking to the Rangers about a catcher for whom it has yet to click, a lefty pitcher with a limited ceiling (as much as I like him), a high ceiling, may or may not develop righty, and a defensive whiz, low power SS.
Go Rice Owls!
just as a fwiw
adrian gonzalez:
2006: 14.3$
2007: 13.4
2008: 15.4
2009: 13.8
teixeira:
2006: 11.5
2007: 15.6
2008: 30.4
2009: 9.9
pujols:
2006: 28.4
2007: 31.4
2008: 40.0
2009: 12.8
leaders:
2009: ibanez @ 15.4, longoria @ 14.4, gonzalez @
2008: pujols @ 40.0, utley @ 36.3, chipper @ 33.4 (gonzalez not in top 35)
2007: arod @ 39.2, magglio ordonez @ 36.6, wright @ 34.6 (gonzalez not in top 35)
2006: pujols @ 28.4, sizemore @ 28.7, howard @ 25.9 (gonzalez not in top 35)
strictly by vaue in 2009, gonzalez is equal to ryan zimmerman (so far), and slightly above nelson cruz
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Too many assumptions
Based on one immediate reaction. Unless you are a clubhouse attendant you don’t know what transpires there. MY is distinct because he generally never overreacts, so when he does, it’s “news”. He is far, far from just a figurative leader.
"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -
"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce
by Ed Coffin on Jun 8, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions
I agree somewhat
but not entirely. Young’s actions were childish, but he manned up and did what was right in the end. And we still don’t know for sure how the whole thing ended up being fought in the newspapers.
Leader does not mean “best player.” It basically means the guy who is going to go out and face the world and represent the team to the public after successes and after disappointments. Young, being the senior veteran on this club, having been around longer than anyone else, has that role. Especially with the national media, where he is generally hailed as being the best Ranger.
This may be the case that because most of us are so familiar with the Rangers and know all of their warts and flaws that we like to think of Kinsler and Hamilton as the keys to the club, and thus in our minds they’re the “leaders”. But with the interaction to the media, it seems to be Young. And what actually goes on in that clubhouse we have no idea.
Go Rice Owls!
First Place Mother Effin' Texas Rangers!!!
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 8, 2009 10:08 AM CDT reply actions 13 recs
The Jolly Green'd Marshmellow Giant
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
Heh, perhaps I have expired?
Or I just escaped from one of those multi-colored bags…
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
You might be retarded.
“The Jolly Green’d Marshmellow Giant”. Seriously?
by Finnerty.Fan on Jun 8, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions
Is it Irony Day around here?
First Josey with this one regarding Adam and Michael Young:
“Seemed more than a little contradictory and like you more interested in discrediting a couple of people associated with the Rangers that you obviously don’t like.”
And now this?
"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky
wooo
go rangers
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions
OBTW, Hammy getting his 2nd opinion in Philly today.
I expect surgery and a 60 day DL move very soon, unfortunately.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
I agree
But I think this team can overcome this. Not to mention if he comes back for the stretch run and he is fresh.
2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009
Considering Hamilton wasn't exactly doing anything special offensively, I'm sure they will.
If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339
Yeah but
he was playing very well in Center this year. I know this may sound weird but I think this team will miss his D more than his offense.
by Michael Cave on Jun 8, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions
Observations
1. Would it not be great to have MLB disclose their umpire grades?
2. How cool is it that Andrus is a much better hitter than we thought and even a better defender than we expected?
3. The Angels bullpen will be the Achilles heel of that team.
4. Murphy’s resurgence since his disastrous opening is totally remarkable.
5. Ian’s defense is amazingly better this year.
6. Totally impressed with the Mathis performance a couple of days ago.
II Cor. 4:17-18
Replies
1. Yes, it would be awesome.
2. Way cool. I expected Andrus to hit like this — in about 2011.
3. The Angels have more than just a heel as a weakness.
4. Murphy seems pretty locked in right now, hard hit balls yesterday. As long as he’s used correctly he’s a great asset.
5. Kinsler seems to be proving Adam’s contention that he could be a good 2B defensively.
6. Math added to my optimism.
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Fuck the M's
There are rumblings that left-handed hitting outfielder Guillermo Pimentel, who almost seemed destined to land with the Texas Rangers, might now be talking to the Seattle Mariners. It’s believed Pimentel will get a signing bonus in the $2 million range.
Go Rangers...don't suck...
BASTAGES
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
I can't help but wonder if the Rangers overplayed their hand
with the Pimentel shenanigans. While they are certainly entitled to trying to manipulate the system within the rules given Ynoa last year, bringing attention to yourself will certainly invite eyes.
If they want Pimentel, they should bid for him along with everyone else, and bid more than them. Closeting him and hoping they can low-ball him is not a good approach.
Go Rice Owls!
its the approach that has been used there forever
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
by knockoutking on Jun 8, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions
First thought...financials.
Ownership change-related?
"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks
by hightowersmith on Jun 8, 2009 11:12 AM CDT up reply actions
I was hoping Chris Davis was coming around
and I saw at least one game, but his last 7 day split is still only .261/.261/.391 OPS .652
Hopefully he gets it in gear this week.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
Unfortunately
that represents improvement. The previous 7 days: .136/.174/.409.
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Hopefully next week
his OBP is over .300 anyway.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
well
the extra contact is nice. I think that is the first step. Maybe he’ll start taking walks once he gets confident of the patience. The power will probably be last to comeback
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
Yeah
the contact is an improvement. His BA is probably going to end up being around that 26o-270 range anyway. I can’t imagine he’s ever going to have a particularly high BA. I figure lots of strikeouts, a mediocre BA and mediocre at walks, and lots of power.
"He (Padilla) shouldve gone back to Venezuela and watched on his Direct TV waiting to find out who his new team would be!!. ." - crops.mlblogs.com
If he ends up with a .260 or .270 BA that would mean he goes on an absolute tear
And the Rangers probably win the West going away
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
Great take from Sturm on his trip to Fenway yesterday
http://insidecorner.dmagazine.com/index.php/2009/06/08/fieldtrip-to-fenway/#more-6815
It’s safe…no talk of JD and ferns.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
I have very little to do at work today
and I think Josey is a hilarious diversion.
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Just hear
everything Josey types coming from Foghorn Leghorn.
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If that doesn't work..
I generally use Statler and Waldorf…
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
Ooh, these are both good
the muppets guys and Edward G. Robinson.
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I just wish
there was a way to ignore all the subthreads Josey posts in. I am already blocking Josey but scrolling past the endless arguments is getting really old, especially if I’m sitting in the thread for a while and people KEEP REPLYING.
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
Not sure what the problem is, lisa
The Rangers are winning and we’re just kicking around who should get the credit.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
She won't see this
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 8, 2009 12:46 PM CDT up reply actions
you saw it, micah
and girls talk so it’s safe to say she’ll know what I wrote.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
Actually, I think it's safe to say
she thinks the dumbassery ended the day she blocked your posts.
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by t ball on Jun 8, 2009 1:12 PM CDT up reply actions 1 recs
funny
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
You really DO think Ptolemy was right, don't you???
you at the forum center, with everything revolving around you.
Some days it’s annoying as hell, but some days it IS just priceless.
The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano
I won't tell her unless she asks
Which she won’t
-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)
by The Best Micah on Jun 8, 2009 3:18 PM CDT up reply actions
no offense
but if it bothers you that much just ignore the AM, GDT or post game threads…
its not that big of a deal……
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
Or pretty much the entire comments section altogether :D
It only really bugs when I’m sitting in a thread for a while (like the GDT) – and then only because people keep replying, so hitting “z” brings me right back back to the same subthread – over, and over, and over again :P
"You got a guy coming up there who can’t hit water if he fell out of a boat." - Tom Grieve on Richie Sexson, 5.8.2008
"I’ve been a Rangers fan all my life and I can tell you there’s been plenty of fucking crying in baseball…" - WhipSmart, 6.3.08
"When it comes to Jeff Mathis, the story ends with us putting one in his earhole." - AJM, 7.7.08
heh
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WASH EXTENDED!!!
Fuck all you haterz.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
Excellent, excellent news
"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel
interesting
as long as its not a long term extention, im ok with it haha
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
and its just for 2010
Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."
His option was picked up.
My post was bit misleading.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
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