Hamilton to have surgery
by RA Dickey on Jun 8, 2009 4:06 PM CDT
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Per Jamey, Josh is going to have surgery to repair his abdominal tear and is expected to miss 4 to 6 weeks. I guess I'd rather have him just do it and ensure that he'll be OK in 6 weeks, rather than hope it fixes itself with rest. However, watching Byrd and Murphy out there everyday is going to get old really quick. Let's hope Davis can pick it up.
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Better to get it done now...
and be back for the stretch run than continue to wait it out and have it bite you in the butt later…
Good news, IMO…
by N41D on Jun 8, 2009 4:09 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Agreed...wonder if they'll stick him in RF upon his return and stick Cruz in left...
Can Murphy play CF and rotate with Byrd?
II Cor. 4:17-18
by TedFord on Jun 8, 2009 4:12 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think they will most likely move Hamilton over to LF
And leave Cruz in right. He has learned that position and is one of the best defensive outfielders in the league. I would hate to move him over to LF and that negatively affect his defensive performance. Not saying that is for sure would, but not sure Id risk it. Plus I think Hamilton is suited more for left anyway, mainly for his speed.
Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!
by thad728 on Jun 8, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I still don't understand...
why the Rangers would move two OFers rather than just moving Josh to LF. As you say Nellie has been great in RF and Josh’s speed would be great in LF. Just put Hamilton in LF and leave Cruz alone.
It will be interesting to see if the Byrd/Murphy combo struggles how long JD/Nolan will stick with them ‘til they bring up Borbon. Especially if Borbon keeps hitting like he has recently. 6 weeks isn’t as bad as I thought it would be, but that is still long enough to consider bringing up Borbon now imo.
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by slc ranger on Jun 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm sure Murph can
but I don’t know that they want him to. I’d rather see Boggs in CF with Byrd than Murph
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Murphy really has no place on this team if Hamilton isn't in CF
For the time being, I’d guess we’ll see Byrd everyday in CF with Boggs/Murphy in LF and Jones/Blalock at DH.
by cstorm15 on Jun 8, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
how long till Borbon is up?
"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16
by tricer on Jun 8, 2009 4:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I know this sounds ignorant
but I’m excited to see Boggs get some more at bats and time in the field. Gotta look at some sort of bright side…
"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"
by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 4:17 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I think it will tell us
a lot about Boggs. Murphy is getting hot. Cruz just continues to perform. Byrd is doing his usual solid job. I am not that concerned.
by Michael Cave on Jun 8, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Repost of what I gathered from JD's presser:
He said it wasn’t technically a hernia.
Usually a "mesh" is inserted to patch/repair the tear. This is evidently much smaller, and can simply be sutured. It sounds as if this is a laproscopic procedure, as opposed to cut and dig around.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jun 8, 2009 4:18 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
could be less than 5 weeks recovery?
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by Walter Sobchak on Jun 8, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
JD said 4-6.
So that’s good. Also, the Dr. he saw in Philly is kind of a pioneer in the less invasive surgery, and also treated McNabb, and some other high-profile guys.
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"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jun 8, 2009 4:23 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sports Hernia surgery explained...
Lifted from sportshernia.org:
Today, the procedure can be performed using minimally invasive (laparscopic) surgery. Laparoscopy uses three ¼-inch incisions to allow insertion of instruments used to visulize muscle damage and perform the repair. To reinforce the repair and make it stronger, a synthetic mesh-like material is used.
Expected athletic recovery in 4 weeks.
by HelloWinColumn on Jun 8, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Without Hamilton...
We have been playing well, however we are going to need at least a few of these for our offense to keep up:
1.A Marlon Byrd month long hot streak like in the past.
2.Chris Davis to play up to his potential.
3.David Murphy to catch fire
4.Nellie and Young to continue their ways
5.Andruw Jones to play a more regular OF
by death of the cool on Jun 8, 2009 4:24 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Andruw
could also use a hot streak. He’s had some patient at bats, but fairly meh outcomes lately.
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by DJCahill on Jun 8, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
we probably only need one of those
maybe 2
"I just want to comment on how it’s become like a common thing in the [MLB] for guys to fall in love with [the Rangers’s] sloppy seconds." (thanks cstorm)
by ab03 on Jun 8, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
As long as the pitching and defense doesn't collapse,we'll be good
by Too Legit To quit on Jun 8, 2009 4:29 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad but not a disaster
Aat least we will have him back for the stretch run. The injury I’ve always been afraid of was some knee thing knocking him out for the year.
And the hernia thing had the chance of being as difficult to recover from as kinslers. This at least sounds like we can count on him to be back at least fairly close to the 6 weeks.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 8, 2009 4:30 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
six weeks puts him at the all star break
If it lasts that long, why not just wait to bring him back the first day after the all star break? You won’t have to worry about him getting hurt or into a slump from the HR derby or the exhibition game.
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by DerekSTheRed on Jun 8, 2009 4:33 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Didn’t notice until this hit my RSS feed, but
RA Dickey reports “Hamilton to have surgery”
I once had an awkward moment, just to see how it feels.
by Escher on Jun 8, 2009 4:48 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
R.A. said that
watching Byrd and Murphy out there everyday is going to get old really quick. "
What is he doing watching Ranger games in the Twins bullpen?
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 8, 2009 4:51 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hamilton will be the bat
that JD “trades” for after the ASB. I wouldn’t be surprised if he comes back as the DH.
Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 8, 2009 4:49 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Can you imagine what the reaction here would have been like
If we got this news just before opening day?
by Telegraph on Jun 8, 2009 4:50 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah I am gonna dread watching a guy who has hit .333/.402/.493 against RHP since his 0-22 start
How can you ever win with guys doing that on your team
/sarcasm
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 8, 2009 4:51 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
McCarthy to DL with stress fracture
It was only a matter of time
by j-r-d on Jun 8, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
link
http://rangersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/06/brandon-mccarthy-has-stress-fracture-in-1.html
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 8, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
at least Holland can get into a groove in the rotation
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by DJCahill on Jun 8, 2009 4:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks like
Holland will be staying in the rotation. Given BMac’s history he probably won’t be back untiol Sept.
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Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY
by RangerMad on Jun 8, 2009 5:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
source?
Please be lying.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 8, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Great... now we get to listen to more "his body is rejecting pitching in The Show" crap.
by Inkara1 on Jun 8, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yep, and it may be true
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 8, 2009 5:02 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yep, we knew it was gonna happen, hope he can come back sooner than later
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 8, 2009 5:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll take the blame for this one
I laughed at a lot of Angels, A’s, and Mariners injuries over the past few months. Now this happens.
By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.
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-The Outlaw
by Gdawg on Jun 8, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh...
shit, and just when he was starting to make a believer out of me.
"The only good is knowledge and the only evil is ignorance."-Socrates
by slc ranger on Jun 8, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ben an Skin touched on this possibility...
but what do you think of trading for a center fielder instead of bringing up borbon in the middle of what has turned into a competitive season? I’m not sure what a player like Curtis Granderson or Grady Sizemore would cost us, but would it be worth it to package borbon, byrd so they have a center fielder for the rest of the season, a catcher, and one or two minor league pitchers to get a star center fielder for the next several years. Then our outfield would be set with Cruz and Hamilton in the corners and the new stud in center, and Murphy/Boggs as the 4th and 5th guys.
It would all depend on how much the other team would demand and I’m guessing it would be costly in prospects…but if this move could give us a prototypical leadoff hitter (moving kinsler down to hit either 2 or 3 while josh is out), and plus defense in center field, then doesn’t it seem worth it? Now if JD could find a way for the team to throw in a solid bullpen arm that this team needs, without giving up holland, feliz, or perez in the deal, I think it would set us up perfectly for this season’s race, without mortgaging the future.
by rangerjake on Jun 8, 2009 4:58 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Sizemore ain't going nowhere, IMO.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
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by Rodney on Jun 8, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
pretty much the bottom would fall out of the Indians fan base if they traded Sizemore
my sig is better than yours
by hinduplaya on Jun 8, 2009 6:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Trading for a CF
I had that same thought, but was struggling with who the trading partner would be.
by Darrell McKown on Jun 8, 2009 7:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fuck me to tears.
"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008
by Rodney on Jun 8, 2009 5:04 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
But atlest now we get to keep Benson
Benson probably pulled a Tanya Harding on McCarthy so he wouldn’t get released
by laxtonto on Jun 8, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man no kidding!
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 8, 2009 5:26 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eeesh...
Is any woman I can think of a better poster child for the word “skank” than her??
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by bking on Jun 9, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody wanna discuss what being a starter is doing to McCarthy's body?
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 5:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
There's no point in discussing things with you.
When you’re wrong, you run and hide.
by cstorm15 on Jun 8, 2009 5:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I don't run away when I'm wrong
and that’s what really bothers people.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You're full of shit
Here’s a post where I linked to four different subjects that you ran away from after I called you out. When given an opportunity to respond, you chose to (a) respond to my posts while (b) pretending you didn’t read my posts or care what I had to say.
Are you sure you want to sit there and say you don’t run away when you’re wrong? Maybe you just want to log off for a few days and try again…
by cstorm15 on Jun 8, 2009 5:39 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't run away, period
That’s what bothers people. It’s not so much what you say but how you say it, as well as your total inflexibility.
by Black Francis on Jun 8, 2009 5:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't answer every question posted to me
but it’s never because I’m afraid to admit I was wrong.
Sometimes I don’t see questions thrown my way and other questions are really useless and not worth the time.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 5:55 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I meant was...
…I think the general consensus that people are tired of you (because of the inflexibility, how you come across, etc.).
“GTFO this internet”, I believe is what the community has been trying to say for a long time.
by Black Francis on Jun 8, 2009 6:01 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Why the required inflexibility
when you’re right?
Example – Brandon McCarthy
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about
the Nolan Ryan/JD dynamic and Daniels in particular. You know what “arguments” you get into better than I do.
Take it from someone who has no special place in his heart for ANY baseball executive of any team. Daniels has done some good here. Ryan’s done some good here. Even back when it was Hart and Fuson I still thought it was ridiculous how some people would give Fuson the credit for anything good that happened and Hart would be blamed for anything bad.
These decisions are made by committee. There’s not one GM or President in baseball who calls all the shots. It’s not a top down thing and probably hasn’t been in years and years.
by Black Francis on Jun 8, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Do you even believe yourself when you say that?
I suppose “not worth the time” means that posts rebutting your arguments can interrupt your otherwise nonsensical rants…
Still, this whole “I swear I didn’t read any of your posts even though I previously replied to them” lie is low, even for you…
by cstorm15 on Jun 8, 2009 6:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
cstorm
Sorry, if you don’t believe me but I don’t respond to everything thrown my way.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 6:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
IIRC
McCarthy was better with CWS as a reliever… they couldn’t have possibly had a better medical crystal ball than the Rangers?
I wish Eric Hurley wasn’t out for the year.
Rivalries aside, RIP Nick Adenhart 04/09/2009.
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i dont know if you can say the same thing abotu RW" - knockoutking
by hillcrest on Jun 8, 2009 5:08 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
We could have used both Hurley and Benoit this year
Doesn’t help that Hunter started on Saturday too, so he’s out.
Welcome back Mendoza…
by cstorm15 on Jun 8, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Especially
Benoit. Losing him was big. The pen would look totally different with him in it.
I don’t think Hurley will ever amount to anything. Hope I’m wrong about that.
by Black Francis on Jun 8, 2009 5:42 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How do you figure
he had a lower ERA as a starter..
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 8, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Go look at the numbers again and tell me if he was better as a starter or reliever
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 8, 2009 5:21 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was healthier as a reliever.
Big Steve,
I was right on this one.
"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."
by Josey Wales on Jun 8, 2009 5:27 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cookies and milk for you
"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"
by lost in space on Jun 8, 2009 5:28 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't the question or statement made
That I replied to.
It sucks for BMac because he looked to have turned a corner recently. Im not gonna blame his injury on his increased pitch counts but I do believe they had some impact.
Ultimately I think this will lead to him being non-tendered and we will watch him pitch well for some other team for the next several years and idiots like you will come on here and spew how JD let another one get away.
Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.
by bigsteve on Jun 8, 2009 5:30 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
He wasn't injured as a starter in chicago.....
all pitchers get injured. i doubt there is much evidence of staying healthy as a reliever.
the preceding post was a great success.
by DSheppard on Jun 8, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
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