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Rangers pick Tanner Scheppers with their supplemental pick

Wow, top 10 talent at 44, gotta like that. More to come...

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So Dirk was right...

but just the wrong pick.

Serenity now, insanity later.

-Lloyd Braun

by Kevin McBrayer on Jun 9, 2009 8:31 PM CDT reply actions  

The word was that we were on him. Scouts galore at his latest starts.

I just had no idea we could get him at 44.

Kudos to Johnny Donuts.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 9, 2009 8:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Indeed

The Rangers were indeed in attendance. Along with a dozen other teams. The AL West was well represented.

"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"

by Heebs on Jun 9, 2009 9:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

But...

Pittsburgh passed on him last year.

And 43 teams passed on him this year.

And McCarthy has talent and a shoulder injury.

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 10:55 PM CDT up reply actions  

McCarthy

lacks a 96 mph, running fastball.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 9, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

True.

And I can buy the high ceiling argument with a #44 pick.

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

That's not much of a reason

14 teams passed on Jered Weaver, who was the top player in his draft. 24 teams (or whatever it was) passed on Rick Porcello and Joba Chamberlain. Sometimes these types pan out and sometimes they don’t. But when they do you get a star.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 9, 2009 11:01 PM CDT up reply actions  

Talent

I don’t disagree with that. Talent is certainly fun to consider, but injuries bug me.

Players with injuries make me cringe too much. For me, watching McCarthy pitch is like watching a toddler jumping rope holding steak knives. Something bad is about to happen sorta feeling. So, that’s were I stand.

 

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 11:08 PM CDT up reply actions  

Here is another way I look at it

Carroll said on Twitter that teams were scared to death that the Angels were going to snag Scheppers with one of their late first round picks. How do AL and ALW teams feel about Texas getting him in the second round? I’ll tell you how, their division rivals have a sick feeling in their gut.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 9, 2009 11:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

See!

This is the sort of comforting “Inside Baseball” I pay you for!

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 11:13 PM CDT up reply actions  

43 teams passed on him?

I have a hard time believing the Fort Worth Cats passed on him without some sort of under the table agreement

Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon

by rchawk12 on Jun 9, 2009 11:42 PM CDT up reply actions  

Good point.

43 slot passes? 43 skips? 43 bottles of bear on the wall?

by 3Bagger on Jun 10, 2009 7:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Type-OOOOOOOOs

I think I have the 7am shakes from Draft Day Happy Face.

by 3Bagger on Jun 10, 2009 8:24 AM CDT up reply actions  

Unbelievable...

Rangeressary

"the poets have been mysteriously silent on the subject of cheese." - G.K. Chesterton

by rangeressary on Jun 9, 2009 8:45 PM CDT reply actions  

Is he demanding a bunch of money too?

Or was it the shoulder that dropped him this far?

by rothe on Jun 9, 2009 8:51 PM CDT reply actions  

I'm on such a huge high right now.

Purke and Scheppers.

Wow.

Just, wow.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 9, 2009 8:52 PM CDT reply actions  

And now

Tommy Mendonca out of Fresno State with our 2nd round selection.

Serenity now, insanity later.

-Lloyd Braun

by Kevin McBrayer on Jun 9, 2009 9:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reminds me a lot of the Tommy Hunter selection.

Some real expensive guys in front of him, then go ahead and take a safe college guy who you know’ll sign quickly and for slot.

Fine with me.

If we sign Scheppers and Purke and Pimentel we might actually end up keeping that #1 overall farm system trophy another year.

What an awesome first two picks.

I literally screamed when I heard Scheppers’ name.

Awesome.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 9, 2009 9:09 PM CDT up reply actions  

The philosophy does sort of make sense to me

Go for it near the top of the draft with guys that have a chance to be stars, then go a little safer later on when the difference between guys is likely to be a lot less in terms of potential and value.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 10, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Awesome picks.

Now they just have to pitch up to the hype!

by oc on Jun 9, 2009 11:38 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh,

“People call me nuts, but I saw Strasburg pitch again for the second time and there’s no doubt: Tanner is the best [pitcher] in the country,” Batesole said. “With all due respect to Strasburg, I’d pick Tanner.”

haha, well, cool

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 9, 2009 9:07 PM CDT reply actions  

who is that?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
Scout to KG: On Sandoval: "Man, that fat [expletive]-er can hit."

by knockoutking on Jun 9, 2009 10:07 PM CDT up reply actions  

his coach

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 9, 2009 10:10 PM CDT up reply actions  

bias much?

still awesome to hear though

baseBALLIN!

by kevzta on Jun 9, 2009 10:31 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

“But my Mom says I’m cool…”

-Milhouse

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 9, 2009 10:40 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

What a setup

but I’m going to just leave that alone.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 10, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

Dorthy Mantooth is a SAINT!!!

A Cowboy fan from Dallas residing in enemy terretory since 1990..

by Jtiner09 on Jun 10, 2009 7:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

Law's pre-draft rankings

4 Tanner Scheppers RHP St. Paul Saints —

by Agreen07 on Jun 9, 2009 9:19 PM CDT reply actions  

Signability aside...

tremendous draft so far.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jun 9, 2009 9:25 PM CDT reply actions  

Awesome

This be akin to inking Javier Baredem for your lead, and then Daniel Day-Lewis calls to volunteer for the supporting role…

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 9, 2009 9:43 PM CDT reply actions  

Bah. I know how he spells it

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 9, 2009 9:44 PM CDT up reply actions  

And then Clint Eastwood declines to direct it!!!

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 9, 2009 9:46 PM CDT up reply actions  

Michael Bay

Clearly the way to go.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 9, 2009 9:51 PM CDT up reply actions  

Heh.

Yah. True dat.

Cuz “ham-fisted” and “Michael Bay” are 2 ships that nary have crossed in the night.

I like your use of cloying, though. That is a witheringly descriptive disparager that seems tailor-made for amateur film snobs like ourselves. Hope you don’t mind if I poach that, Tressa, when I’m big-braining some cinema rubes around the water cooler.

It’s funny, I work w/ a team of 8 in an office of much larger, and everybody in the team is pretty good friends, etc., and there is one guy who is known as the Anti-recommender. He’s bright, a great guy, articulate too, which makes the situation all the more befuddling and comical. You wouldn’t believe how many times he’s gotten a rasberry review on his “big big recommendations.” Now we just politely pretend to listen.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jun 9, 2009 10:28 PM CDT up reply actions  

I don't think Micheal Bay is self aware enough to overdirect a movie.

He’s pretty terrible, though.

He and his spiritual protege McG are the epitome of the all-flash no-substance, glossy music video-esque film culture that needs to go away and never ever come back again.

Plus he keeps trying to make Shia Labuff happen, which is actually a worse crime against humanity than the fact that MDB won an Oscar- there, I said it.

Shia Labuff is terrible and needs to die in an apartment fire, fucking pronto.

No good can come from him being alive.

Oh, and steal away. “Imitation is the sincerest form of...” and “If you can’t beat ’em…” and all that jazz.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 9, 2009 10:39 PM CDT up reply actions  

McG

ruined what could have been a good movie in Terminator Salvation. All flash no substance, the characters in their movies are the explosions and the people are special effects.

Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon

by rchawk12 on Jun 9, 2009 11:47 PM CDT up reply actions  

I still liked Terminator.

Do I like Terminators? Absolutely. Do I want to see Batman fight the killer robots? Yes. Not a very good movie, but I enjoyed it.

by FuturePants on Jun 10, 2009 9:00 AM CDT up reply actions  

Top 10 Talent...

With an injury history. Just to be fair. So, he comes with riskssss.

I’m not trying to be a dick or anything. But, since someone will link-up this page in 2012, I want to go on record as saying, I was 100% for Shelby Miller. And we skipped over him. I think it was a mistake. He’s a man beast at 18, what will he be at 25? Purke is Left-Handed, and that’s helpful. I hope for the best. But, Miller was my #1 and it did not happen.

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 10:06 PM CDT reply actions  

But

what does that have to do with Scheppers?

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 9, 2009 10:12 PM CDT up reply actions  

Reply

My first part, Is (Scheppers) Top 10 Talent? I don’t think so. Injury histories do matter to me.

The last part: I should have stated: OT.

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 10:16 PM CDT up reply actions  

Injury history is why he didn't get picked until 44

If he had no injury problems at all, do you think he would have been a top 10 pick?

by Telegraph on Jun 9, 2009 10:21 PM CDT up reply actions  

he'd have been a top 5 pick, no?

a college guy who throws 96+ is not gonna last long

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 9, 2009 10:22 PM CDT up reply actions  

The pick has tons of intrigue. So, I like it in some respects.

But, I believe in the theory that says some people just simply GET HURT. Emmitt Smith was not one of those. Nolan Ryan was not one of those. Jamie Moyer. Randy Johnson.

So, I don’t believe in picking people who demonstrate a propensity to get hurt.

That said, he is an intriguing talent. And the Draft overall has been fun.

by 3Bagger on Jun 9, 2009 10:29 PM CDT up reply actions  

you forgot about brandon mccarthy

not one of… wait its late I can’t remember, has he ever been injured?

Charter member of the Dutch bandwagon

by rchawk12 on Jun 9, 2009 11:50 PM CDT up reply actions  

Scheppers

started pitching in college didn’t he? If it wasn’t for the slagging his arm took at the hands of the Fresno State staff, he’d be one of the lowest mileage arms in the draft in years.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 10, 2009 12:17 AM CDT up reply actions  

Well said.

As a non-pitcher for most of his college career, his arm was not conditioned to withstand the workload he was given.

by NoNameOnCard on Jun 10, 2009 12:21 AM CDT up reply actions  

Jim: With Scheppers, when I was making my nonstop phone calls for first-round projections, I could see that coming. I think teams are leery of a shoulder injury. Not sure what he’s asking for financially, but I think it was more a healthy concern, not that there’s something horribly wrong right now, but just the history of being hurt. How about the Rangers getting Purke at 14 and Scheppers at 44? If those guys stay healthy and reach their ceilings, and you package them in a rotation with Holland and Feliz. Wow.

John: Jim real quick, first-round winners: My winners are Colorado, Texas and I’ll also say Minnesota and Cleveland, popping the Twins and Indians for getting White and Gibson so late in the first round.

by octoberty on Jun 9, 2009 10:26 PM CDT reply actions  

Just for what it's worth

The talk surrounding Scheppers reminds me a lot of what was being said about Joba Chamberlain in his draft.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 9, 2009 10:42 PM CDT reply actions  

hey

that would be awesome

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 9, 2009 11:15 PM CDT up reply actions  

OBTW

I LOVE YOU MILTON BRADLEY

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 PM CDT reply actions  

BAH

y!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Go Rangers...don't suck...

by Kinslerhomer on Jun 9, 2009 11:41 PM CDT up reply actions  

haha

me too

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jun 10, 2009 12:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

This does kind of make up for having to put up with Hank Blalock.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Part I of my All-Star ballot missive

by LSJ on Jun 10, 2009 12:15 AM CDT up reply actions  

Now this kid's got to sign, right?

I mean, he COULD decide not to and go back to St. Paul, but that isn’t very likely…he can’t hold us hostage as much as Purke can, right? He’s as good as ours? If so, I guess I don’t get why he slipped so far…just injury issues?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jun 9, 2009 11:47 PM CDT reply actions  

Scheppers isn't likely to come back to St. Paul

And of interesting note Harrington pitched for the Saints as well. The Saints already have a full roster and had to move on from Sheppers quickly (he was released directly after his last start in game 1 of a doubleheader to make room for an additional bullpen arm).

Scheppers was a good fit for the Saints but he wasn’t really showcasing much other than power pitching. He threw mostly fastballs. The Saints radar gun, like everyone else, game him some extra umph on the fastball. Most of the radars indicated he was touching 98 but sitting mostly around 95 in his last start. It sounds like he’ll need some work on his other pitches in the minors (as do allpitchers not named Stephen Strassburg).

"It takes a big dog to weigh 1000 pounds"

by Heebs on Jun 10, 2009 12:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

Hopkins said in the conference call tonight

that they really liked the way he’s been spinning his breaking ball, just for what that’s worth.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 10, 2009 12:36 AM CDT up reply actions  

when I saw him

in Sioux City, he threw maybe 5 or 6 non fastballs.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 10, 2009 12:40 AM CDT up reply actions  

Just passing it along

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 10, 2009 12:42 AM CDT up reply actions  

I know

and I saw him early on (it was his 2nd start), but just so you know, I didn’t see him throw many breaking stuff.

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 10, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

Harrington got his money.

Insurance policy.

Kid got terrible advice and followed it. I hesitate to call him an idiot for something that happened when he was 18 or 19, especially given the horrible advice he was given by his agents (espeicially Tanzer, who should be deported), but certainly it was a horrible decision in retrospect.

At least he was smart enough to take out a policy on his arm.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 10, 2009 6:08 AM CDT up reply actions  

Yeah

I think he has a much higher likelihood of signing. I’d frankly be pretty surprised if he doesn’t sign, assuming nothing further surfaces that refutes their belief about his health.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 10, 2009 12:26 AM CDT up reply actions  

I don't know id anyone's posted this before

But as far as Purke goes, TR Sullivan has a quote up from Purke saying he wants to sign (and an obligatory Nolan Ryan tie in). We’ll see.

Alls I know is getting Scheppers makes me feel a lot better about whatever signability risk Purke might be.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Part I of my All-Star ballot missive

by LSJ on Jun 10, 2009 12:37 AM CDT up reply actions  

purke has a nolan connection FWIW IIRC

his “agency” is a company owned by nolan’s partner with the express and corpus, im pretty sure

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 10, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

For what it's worth

Purke also said that he wasn’t leaning either way as far as turning pro or attending TCU. He did make a big deal of Nolan, though, said that it is really special to say that Nolan is your boss. Also said that he was glad to stay in Texas was

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jun 10, 2009 12:41 AM CDT up reply actions  

Interesting.

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Part I of my All-Star ballot missive

by LSJ on Jun 10, 2009 12:44 AM CDT up reply actions  

i like how this sounds
“I don’t think it will be difficult. It might take some time but I want to play baseball and I want to play for the Texas Rangers. I think the negotiations will end up being pretty easy.”

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jun 10, 2009 12:46 AM CDT up reply actions  

Translated ...

I’m gonna sign but I’ll have to wait until mid-August or Bud will take Jonny’s donuts away.

by shroomer on Jun 10, 2009 12:47 AM CDT up reply actions  

Fix'd

I’m gonna sign but I’ll have to wait until mid-August or Bud will take Jonny’s donuts Guillermo Pimentel away

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 10, 2009 12:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

It depends on who you talk to

either way, we’re one of the top teams involved

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 10, 2009 1:02 AM CDT up reply actions  

One more thing...

As previously observed, Tyler Matzek seems like a douche.

Remember to retire Fin's number, Mark.

by jonthefon on Jun 10, 2009 6:42 AM CDT reply actions  

I'm sure this has been mentioned, but it's still really cool:

From Jim Callis talking about the draft as related to the top 100 prospect list:

San Diego State righthander Stephen Strasburg is already the favorite to rank No. 1 on next year’s Top 100. Assuming they sign, there are two more college players (North Carolina first baseman Dustin Ackley, Missouri righthander Kyle Gibson*), two independent league righthanders (Aaron Crow and Tanner Scheppers) and five high schoolers (outfielder Donavan Tate, lefthanders Tyler Matzek and Matthew Purke and righthanders Jacob Turner and Zack Wheeler) who are all but locks to make the list.

So, yah. Two guys added yesterday who are all but locks to make the top 100 list.

Awe.

Some.

-* This is from June 1st, so Gibson is probably no longer a lock with the forearm fracture.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 10, 2009 7:04 AM CDT reply actions  

Damn

*if baseball pants are bloated for over 4 hours please call your doctor

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 10, 2009 8:07 AM CDT up reply actions  

Seriously.

I woke up this morning with an overwhelming sense of contentment.

Going upside with our first pick was great, but hearing them call out Tanner Schepper’s name with our suppy pick was pure ecstacy.

The big league team looks like they’re headed for an extended funk and I’m still on a baseball high right now that ain’t going away anytime soon.

The 40 Trumps All!!!

Chris Davis will be fine. Relax.

by thedirkatron on Jun 10, 2009 8:14 AM CDT up reply actions  

No doubt.

I was absolutely stunned when I heard Schepper’s name called over my 105.3FM last night. Wows!

2 of the Top 10 talents in the draft with the 14th & 44th pick???

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by Rodney on Jun 10, 2009 8:31 AM CDT up reply actions  

and after reading the THT article

on Medusa’s defense I’m relatively sanguine about him. And little Bobby Erlin is a good pick, I think. I don’t get the fixation with pitchers being tall.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jun 10, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions  

x

If you can't watch Holland and see that he's going to be awesome, you probably shouldn’t be watching baseball. - Section 339

Part I of my All-Star ballot missive

by LSJ on Jun 10, 2009 8:50 AM CDT up reply actions  

BA's Top 100

That is pretty cool.

Especially considering we had #14 and #44 to work with…

by 3Bagger on Jun 10, 2009 7:09 AM CDT reply actions  

Scheppers BA article from Feb 08

details his transition from SS to pitcher under the tutelage of former Met first rounder Bobby Jones.

Pretty good article.

"He's old school in that he give up his groin like that. It hurt me when he do that" -- Worsh on Chris Davis' stretch at first base to end the game vs. the Angels on 5/16

by tricer on Jun 10, 2009 8:51 AM CDT reply actions  

Anyone recall

what Scheppers was offered last year by the Pirates?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jun 10, 2009 10:39 AM CDT reply actions  

about 1 mill

"Hustle doesn't cost a dime and it looks good." - Pete Rose as Channeled by Marcus Lemon

by FirebatM3 on Jun 10, 2009 5:00 PM CDT up reply actions  

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