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Wednesday a.m. Ranger things

Ah, a win.  What a nice change of pace.  Texas has a chance to get back within a half game of first tonight.

Jeff Wilson notes that the Rangers have a history of pounding yesterday's starter, Joe Saunders, at TBIA...he now has an 11.67 ERA in Texas.

Ian Kinsler's lead over Dustin Pedroia in the All Star balloting is down to just a few thousand votes, but Josh Hamilton's lead is safe.  Tommy Hunter is staying in the rotation now and will go again on Friday.

Kevin Sherrington says that the offense, even after last night's explosion, still isn't good.

And just a few days after Randy Galloway wrote a column talking to Nolan Ryan about the offensive problems and absolving Rudy Jaramillo of any blame, Jennifer Floyd Engel does the same.

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even though Kinsler doesn't deserve the start (Aaron Hill does)

I hope he gets it to make up for last year when he got screwed by Red Sox Nation.

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 1, 2009 8:55 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

jh

why does ppl vote for him he hasn’t played in a month

by kaiserbillwolf on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

because fan voting sucks

and people just look at the names available and remember the circus tent he put up at the home run derby last year

by texasraider on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The all-star game is an exhibition for the fans

it’s a joke, and it’s not a real game with real consequences. The fans can vote for whoever the hell they want to.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

All-star game

But there is a consequence now, since the game decides world series home field advantage thanks to bud selig.
Not a huge thing, but there is something riding on it for teams with a hope of going.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes, that stupid idea needs to die.

Home field advantage in the playoffs, including the WS should be decided by one thing, the W-L record of the teams.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because of the press he's received from his battles with addiction.

And the big splash he made in last year’s home run derby.

by Redcaps on Jul 1, 2009 9:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ask AJM

he’s one of those weird people that votes based on past performance and not current

by Mike E on Jul 1, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i somewhat understand it

and im sorry, but the “average fan” — the guy who goes to 2-3 games a year and watches highlights on ESPN, the people who make or break a team financially, would rather see josh hamilton in the all star game than ben zobrist

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a shame

because Zobrist is one of the real exciting stories this year.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

zobrist should be at the ASG

dont get me wrong

but the “joe fan” isnt going to know who zobrist is…hes going to know who jeter is — and to be pissed when zobrist replaces jeter in the lineup

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does "Joe Fan" even watch the game past the first inning?

Or the Home Run Derby?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

home run derby, yes

past first inning — probably, yes…i bet he watc hes until jeter and co are out and the zobrist’s are in

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I meant, "past the Home Run Derby."

And I’d be interested to see hourly ratings for the game itself… I’m guessing Jeter doesn’t draw a lot of television viewers to the All-Star Game. In fact, I think the ASG holds more interest for LSB-type fans who want something to bitch and moan about than for anyone else…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

really?

why dont you think jeter does (if you ask for one position player on the yankees out of 100 people in the united states, i bet 75+% would say either jeter or arod)?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because I don't think the name recognition of the AL starting shortstop

equates to eyeballs on screens for the ASG.

If accurate, this list of ratings since 1967 is interesting. I’d love to know when the ratings were measured, though, and if there’s a drop-off soon after the Derby and/or the first inning or two of the game.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

i would disagree

but thats me — agree to disagree?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sure. It's really not a big deal to me.

Not a deal of any size, honestly.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Umm

The Home Run Derby takes place the day before the All Star Game, so there is no “drop off” between the derby and the game.

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. Right.

Shows how much I pay attention to the ASG…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I often turn the tv

completely off between the two events.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:10 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That doesn't make it right though.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

why?

back in the day guys played 9 innings

i would sure as hell rather see a guy play 6 or 7 innings than go out there and play 2 innings and 1 AB — would make it more interesting

OT: anyone else read about ichiro’s big pre all star game speeches? lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's billed as a showcase of the best players in each league

After the break, and heck, as guys’ careers progress, the “all-star” label gets used as a qualifier for talent instead of performance. But if you’re getting guys who are underperforming voted in just because Joe Schmo wants to see him in the all-star game, it makes what the event is billed as a sham.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so guys who are underperforming this year, but historically have been good, shouldnt be voted in

but guys who are overperforming this year, compared to their careers, should be in

WHAT?

so guys like bartlett (who has never had over a 99 ops+ in his career) or scutaro (who has never had an ops+ over 90 once in his career) are more deserving than someone else who has p[layed at a high level all his career?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If said solid player is underperforming this year, yes.

Guys who are having all-star caliber seasons should get rewarded. Guys who aren’t shouldn’t. I think it should be that simple.

Heck, it might even be a good thing for fans to see some lesser-known players and realize there’s more to baseball than the stars the announcers gush about.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so you think the all star game should look something like this for the AL:

c: vic martinez, mauer
1b: youkilis, miguel cabrera
2b: kinsler, hill
ss: zoberist, scutaro
3b: inge, longoria
OF: ichiro, crawford, hunter, cruz, granderzon, franklin gutierrez

pitchers:
greinke, halladay, verlander, feliz, edwin jackson, cliff lee

andrew bailey, jp howell, joe nathan, justin masterson, david aardsma, mike wuertz

(btw thats actually not a bad team - but i bet the overwhelming majority of people watching it couldnt tell you who jp howell, bailey, aardsma, wuertz, edwin jackson, guettierez, cruz, hill, scutaro, cabrera, inge played for)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares if the people don't know who they are

How are casual fans supposed to know these players if you ignore them when they are doing well?

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

casual fans

dont give two shits about ben zobrist or aaron hill (sadly)

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The average fan would know who they played for

The average fan would look at the hat they are wearing

by Mark from OC on Jul 1, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

if you gave them a list

no, they wouldnt

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fortunately, they play the ASG on TV,

not on a list.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

obviously

because a hat has a C or a P or a T on it, there can only be one team in baseabll from that city, right?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 1:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its like I've said before

There’s a reason there is a new AS game each year. This isn’t a future HOF game. That would be cool to see, but the All Star game is about the players who are playing the best during the voting period.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It has always been a sham

that go romanticized to the point of being elevated to something that it is not. But it has always been they “players” that you want to see, not the best ones.

Godwin's Law Version 2.0 (Rangers Edition)
"As a Ranger discussion grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Danks, Volquez, or Young approaches one."

by LBBRangerFan on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

didn’t see the game, just looked at the box score…Elvus with 4 SBs?? Nice.

Also, Pujols is projected to hit 62 at this point…that would be pretty cool if he was able to do that…

usa

by Longhorn on Jul 1, 2009 8:57 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Id be happy to give him the mantle of HR champ if he did that

every other guy who’s hit over 61 was pretty much definitively on steroids when they did it

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was looking at his B-R page the other night

He was sitting at 207 OPS+ for the year, which is on pace for his best year yet. That’s saying something, considering his career 172 OPS+.

Hard to believe, but the guy may be one of the more underappreciated players in the game right now. Look at his top ten comps, 7 of the all-time greats and one sure first-ballot HOFer (Griffey) in the top ten. Pujols always gets overlooked for sexier, more exciting flavors of the month because he just puts up his numbers in boring machine-like fashion, but the guy is on his way to becoming one of the truly great all-time baseball players.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know if he's under appreciated..

He’s getting the ESPN love now, with the commercials and segments on BBTN where they look at every single on of his AB’s. Well deserved though.

by Maximilian on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boring

what the hell about Pujolly is boring? I find him the most entertaining/best player in the league and I’m pretty sure that 90% of people agree with that assessment. The thing is, there is nothing to discuss he’s the best and there is no one else on his level to even compare to him.

by bushe on Jul 1, 2009 12:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly, he's boring

No controversy, no flashy plays on defense since he’s a 1B, and everyone knows he’s the best out there.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 12:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 1, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols just continues to amaze me.

He’s pretty clearly the best hitter in baseball, and what’s even more amazing is that pitchers are pitching around him, and he’s still got 30 HRs.

His 8.833 ABs/HR is the lowest since Bonds in 2004, and if you look at the list, you could make the argument that he’s having the best clean HR-hitting season ever (considering the only people with better single-season AB/HR rate are Bonds and McGwire).

The sad thing is, he’s all StL has. Pujols has an OPS+ of 213; the next best StL hitter, Colby Rasmus, has an OPS+ of 99.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just sick

Like I said above, I really think the guy might be underrated.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 1, 2009 9:32 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

also consider that pitchers

have been pitching around him all season. They got DeRosa to try to cut down on that.

by jcAustin on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, to be pitched around regularly and still have 30 homers at this point is ridiculous

Just imagine what the guy could do hitting in the heart of a really good lineup.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well..........

…….I love Albert. He’s a freaking baseball god. But I wouldn’t call him underrated. Maybe a year or two ago you could have said that. The media used to want us to believe David Wright and Ryan Howard were on Albert’s level. They aren’t. But now ESPN and MLB Network fixate on him daily (as they should).

As a life-long Cardinals fan, the idea of having the best player in the galaxy on my favorite team is mind blowing. I grew up with Jack Clark or George Hendrick as our big guns. And they were fine players, but it is an honor and a pleasure to follow what Albert has done since April of 2001.

It sure will be painful when he’s playing elsewhere in 2012, but it’s part of the business.

by Hard8 on Jul 1, 2009 10:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree he's not underrated.

No one talks about him without saying he’s the best hitter/player in baseball now, I don’t see how you can call that underrated.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Underhyped, maybe.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think Hank Aaron and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar are underrated.

In the sense, yes they’re household names, but are never in the equation when discussing greatest ever. And they should be. It’s usually Ruth, Mays, Bonds or Jordan, Chamberlain, Bird, Magic.

Pujols is underrated in that way. He’s acknowledged and known, but damn, he’s really a cut above kind of quietly. There’s more hype to personalities such as Manny.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No active player

should be talked about in the same breath as Ruth and Mays. He still has years to go. He will be talked about like that, but he’s in the middle of his career right now, it’s a tad early for it, IMHO.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree.

Don’t know how to really ‘word’ it. It’s kinda like Carlton is never discussed w/ Koufax and Ryan. It’s like you need a certain mystique, or in some cases, controversy. A certain part of your game that stands out.

Pujols is like Aaron and Jabbar to me in that way. Just year in and year out like the changing of the seasons. Maybe if he hits 60 this year in a supposed post-PED era, it will propel him. I’m guilty of it, I kind of overlook him. It’s Pujols, I expect the numbers, but I’ve started paying closer attention and it’s just astounding.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jul 1, 2009 11:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree with you

about the Aaron and Jabbar part. He will be much better known than Blyleven, but maybe relatively unhyped like Ernie Banks, Carlton, etc.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The only reason Carlton isn't mentioned much..

was that he NEVER talked to the press. Hell hath no fury like a reporter dissed.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

True, but imagine

if Carlton had pitched for a winning team all those years instead of a loser. He’d be called a strong silent type or something and hailed as a champion. Koufax won championships, Ryan threw a bunch of no hitters and has a folksy twang. Life isn’t fair, that’s for sure.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

In 1981 a reporter(don't know who) said,

“The two best pitchers in the National League don’t speak English: Fernando Valenzuela and Steve Carlton.”

27 wins for a 59 win team in 1972. Remarkable.

"I saw your act, just didn't make it for me. Just a lot of fluff."

by scoop16 on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That and Gibson's 68 are the best pitching seasons I've ever seen in my lifetime...

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Carlton '72 was awesome. That Philly

was really, really bad.

Don’t forget Guidry ’78.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"That Philly team..."

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a great quote.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

no, i really do not think he is or ever was on roids

He was always a big dude, plus, I know this doesnt mean a whole lot in todays sports world, I actually believe in his character as a human being somewhat… that might not mean anything to anyone else, but i tend to believe that he truely has kept his career clean

"The House That Ruth Built, 85 years old, goes out as The House That Hamilton Knocked Down"

by blalock84 on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thing is...

He’s always been really good and there haven’t been any big performance jumps in seasons where he should be declining.

by Inkara1 on Jul 1, 2009 1:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Elvis' Consistancy

Yeah Elvis has been great this season. He works the count and is a terror on the basepath. I think he sould lead off and drop Kinsler to 5th where he has the ability to drive in more runs.

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 6:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I said this last night

JD’s trade with Atlanta will turn out to be our Walker trade.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never heard that before

:)

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let's win 89 games (what the Rangers won in '04) before we

proclaim any kind of victory about being better off without Teixeira.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 12:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're literally the only person in America

Who won’t yet agree that the franchise is better off for the Teixeira trade.

Hell, you worship at the altar of sabermetrics and recently Baseball Prospectus called it one of the greatest franchise-changing trades of all time.

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 1, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Teixeira?

This team is much better without him. We have Andrus, Salty, Harrison, and …. hmmm… Max Ramirez I think… am I missing someone. Anyway it’s not even close. Much better trade for the Rangers and rediculous to think otherwise.

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 6:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think there might have been some other A ball scrub thrown in there

Felix Perez? Napoli Fellipe? Neftali Ferris? The name escapes me. He might have been a pitcher?

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 1, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

They moved Perez to utility.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 6:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right

I think Feliz was in there and he’s in Frisco throwing 100 mph

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 7:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

There is a lot of fail in this post

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 7:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right, since

if they hadn’t made that trade, they’d obviously still have Teixeira.

Arlington, TX: home of The Blue Blur

by Brett Perryman on Jul 2, 2009 1:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

in retrospect

dallas cowboys gave up several players one player with several personalities in that trade

i’m sure i could have made that funny somehow i’m just too lazy right now

by sam in so cal on Jul 1, 2009 12:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The Cowboys made the playoffs two years after the Walker

trade and then won three out of four Super Bowls.

Of course Jimmy Johnson didn’t trade away the football equivalents to Adrian Gonzales, Chris Young or John Danks so that helped.

Ooooooooooh, did you hear that?

The hair on the neck of every Lewinsky within LSB standing on edge.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So two years after the Teixeira trade

We are 5 games over .500, in a playoff race, and have a farm system full of young talent in a sport that takes guys 4+ years generally to make it to the majors.

Id say thats a pretty good anaolgy

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 1, 2009 1:22 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bigsteve - I'm on board.

Let’s go win 90 games in The Show so we can officially and definitively say we’re better off without Mark Teixeira.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:38 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

can u ever just STFU?

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 1:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so if the rangers win 85 games this year

and make it to the WS, but lose its clearly still a failure because we did not win 89-90 games like we did w/ teix

got it!

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It takes 89 wins to get a "season score" of 50...

didn’t ya know???

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 1:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

knockoutking

Making the WS trumps 89 games.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let’s go win 90 games in The Show so we can officially and definitively say we’re better off without Mark Teixeira.
Making the WS trumps 89 games.

so which one is it?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 2:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see those

as mutually exclusive.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:25 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

making the playoffs

trumps 2004 no matter the win total.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Making the playoffs trumps the win total

but how many teams since the advent of the Wild Card have won fewer than 89 games and made the playoffs?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 4:20 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who cares?

The number is low, but doesn’t affect my point or my opinion in any way. I didn’t say anything about the odds of such an occurence. Off the top of my head I can only think of St. Louis’ 83 wins when they won the WS. Not likely, but it would be pretty damned exciting, no?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 4:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah...

This isn’t the first season that the Rangers have been too reliant on the home run ball. Rudy is just not the end all and be all to me like he seems to be with just about everyone else.

by bflood36 on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yep

The low OBP/High SLG attack mean that every now and then the team will explode and score a ton of runs, but will lack night to night consistency.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

at the end of the year

fans will look at the runs scored and say"the offense and Rudy are great!". What they won’t see are all the 1,2 and 3 run games that are pumped up by the occasional 12, 10 or 9 run game.
this past 100 games or so is a microcosm of Rudy’s tenure.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 9:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, right now

the offense is on pace for 788 Runs. Thats not too impressive.

Last years offense scored 901.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, 2007 offense scored what, 816, our lowest total since '97?

Of course that offense did have Sideshow Sammy draining the life out of it.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy doesn't make out the line-up which is the biggest problem this thing has.

Sammy Sosa had 315 plate appearances v. RH pitching although his OPS was below .700 against those pitchers AND he was usually hitting clean-up or 5th.

THAT is the biggest problem with this thing.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is Andruw doing?

He is only here because of Rudy.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andruw

has the 4th highest OPS on the team, which isn’t bad for a bench bat that plays infrequently.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please DJ

you are insulting me. Go checkout his game logs, that whistling sound you hear is is BA, OPB and SLG falling off a cliff.

logs

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 9:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you like bigsteve?

do some games not count?

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

When you where one of the worst players in baseball last year, and you're hitting .191 since May 8th

I think it’s safe to say that what you did in your first 14 games as opposed to your last 27 means very little.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

What matters

is what you do all season. All hits help win games. All wins help you make the playoffs, whethere they are in April or September.

A lot of BigSteves around here.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He scored a run last night.

But does that make me an AJ believer? Not necessarily.

by FuturePants on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't see how that excuses sucking balls for 27 games.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

you can find 27 games that almost everyone has sucked balls in this year.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, but where any of those guys one of the worst players in baseball last year?

Andruw’s numbers point to a washed up hitter who had a fluky hot start and has since slid back into his suck from last year.

I just don’t see why he’s here. He can’t play the field well anymore, he hasn’t hit lefties, and for the last two months he hasn’t hit at all. He’s the Eddie Guardado of the bench.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Considering how much suck there has been

he isn’t close to one of the 5 biggest problems. He isn’t even the worst player at the DH position. His OPS was almost 40 points higher in June than Blalock’s, and it would likely be higher if he had consistent playing time.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think DH

is one of the top problems with this team. Hopefully Josh is the DH when he returns and AJ is sent packing.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 10:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally...

I can’ t really understand an argument for kicking out Jones over Blalock.

Blalock has been flat-ass miserable.
Jones has had a bad June.

If you DFA one, just DFA both of’em, go with Hambone at DH and find a new backup player for 1B / OF.

Blalock is no better than Jones, and atleast Jones has shown patience with being a bench player and isn’t bitching about his play-time.

by Trickman on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

They’re both a collective bag of suck right now. Don’t know if I’d DFA them now, but I can’t think of a reason to keep one over the other.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Most likely

if you have a replacement, you boot blalock, and consign Jones to riding pine.

I just don’t see a scenario where you have 2 good replacements though.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think you need 2 replacments

Right now, Blalock and Jones are mostly in a platoon role. If the team has Hamilton coming back as the DH 90% of the time, then you have your replacement there. Trade Blalock to dump his contract, cut Jones, and you’re left with an extra roster spot to play around with.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Extra roster spot to play around with

is easier said than done. Someone has to sit, and not play much. Do you want to bring up a prospect and have them not play? Do you want to trade for someone and have them not play?

I like your idea of bringing up Hamilton and booting Blalock, but I’d be fine with leaving Jones on the bench in case of injuries and not giving him ABs.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Hamilton is the Dh

Jones has no roles on this team. Might as well bring up Boggs.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Boggs can repeat

his last callup and not play for months at a time?

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 10:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Boggs

can get no at bats the rest of the year?

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 10:30 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH is not the problem on this team

Not even close.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah it is

The offense is a mess and the spot ion the lineup that is dedicated to the all offense guys haven’t shown up in the past month.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

DH for the rangers

is 4 runs above average for the league.

1B and C on the other hand are 10 runs below average each.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Talking about the last month

When Blalock and Jones decided to stop hitting.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

You mean

when basicly the whole team decided to stop hitting.

If you think its a DH only problem, then you aren’t paying much attention.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not saying its a DH only problem

I’m responding to Josey’s statement about the DH not even being close to the problem

The DH has been a big problem for us. Every other player on the field, except for Young, can at least say they did something for this team on defense even if they weren’t hitting this past month. The DH on the other hand has done absolutely nothing to help this team this past month and that has been a big problem.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Directly no..

But one of the assumptions built into keeping/playing young guys is that there are guys to do the “heavy lifting” when the young guys struggle.

If this team has a DH and and OF hitting like it should. and like it was expected to, then Davis wouldn’t be such a problem. IOW, DH needs to be an offensive strength on this team, not a middling one.

Plug a 2008 Hamilton, and a supposedly “finally arrived” Cruz in the order and this team’s offense is good enough the way the pitching and defense are going.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 10:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything having to do with offense

is a problem right now.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 10:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have a DH he plays 3b and when we find our Beltre

MY will be a DH

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 11:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't have a problem bringing some minor league veteran up

They’re not going to complain about not playing as long as they are in the Majors. Huffman seems to be the popular name around. Can’t say I’d mind him coming up to be the 25th man. At least the guy shows patience in the minors and he is supposed to be good at 1B which is the main thing I’d want out of him.

Also, Esteban German has been hitting well and has some ML experience too. Again, not exactly a prospect you’re worried about getting ABs too, but can act as the 25th man on the bench. Maybe we can get lucky with him and get something close to his 2006 production.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy with Steve German

or Huffman. Either would be perfect as 25th man.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So basically your argument for keeping him around

Is he didn’t suck as badly as Blalock did in June? You just posted the numbers below, his June OPS is 4th lowest among the full-time or semi-full time players.

He doesn’t need more playing time, he needs less.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So

Lineup construction is the reason the players aren’t hitting?

Most of the guys who contributed to last year’s 901-run offense are back this season- the only significant departure is Bradley, and the only significant addition is Andrus.

Same manager as last year, and they didn’t have trouble scoring runs then. I really don’t see how this is Wash’s fault.

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by RCCook on Jul 1, 2009 9:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bradley for Andrus

is a pretty massive downgrade. By end of year, Andrus is probably struggling around a 700 OPS. Luckily his glove offsets a lot of his lack of offense.

I expected the team to be in the low 800s for runs scored primarily because of that downgrade.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OPS FOR A GUY LIKE ANDRUS IS A BULLSHIT STAT

every1 throws out OPS as some indication of wiry leadoff hitter kinda guys abilities and its fuckin stupid

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YOUR MAMA'S STUPID

I figured I should type my header in all caps too.

OPS is a much better stat for estimating the run potential of a player than OBP.

Losing 300 points or so of OPS from Bradley to Andrus has predictably led to a sizeable decrease in runs.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe it would be more meaningful...

if they added stolen bases to the total bases used to calculate SLG. After all, a single and a steal if basically as useful as a double, right.

Maybe “net steals” would be a better number to use, as I think you need to account for the times they reach base and then get themselves wiped off the basepaths.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OPS undervalues OBP.

OBP is more valuable than SLG.

It is possible (and occurs frequently enough in MLB) for a .700 OPS to produce more WAR/RAR than a .800 OPS.

OPS is a simple, quick number for comparisons, it is not an end-all, be-all number.

A more appropriate OPS would be one where OPS = x*OBP + SLG, where x > 1, and even then, you do not add in the extra runs provided due to baserunning ability.

Has someone considered calculating OPS by including steals in OBP and SLG? (CS = out instead of hit, SB = +1 TB) — might be a nice way to re-value players somewhat.

by Trickman on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Total Average

At Baseball-reference.com, under Advanced Batting there is a stat called Total Average (TotA) which is defined as:

(Total Bases + HBP + BB + SB - CS) / (AB - H + CS + GiDP)

There is also Secondary Average (SecA) which is defined as:

(Total Bases - H + BB + SB - CS) / AB

Both of these take SB and CS into account.

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 1, 2009 12:41 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

EQA

also has a stolen base component.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 12:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Also

FanGraphs’ version of wOBA, which has emerged as perhaps the preeminent offensive stat (primarily because it’s linear-weights based and pretty transparent), has a SB/CS component.

by Joey Matschulat on Jul 1, 2009 4:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

I hadn’t seen that mentioned in any of the formulations of wOBA.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Never mind ~ just found it in an article at THT.

Thanks.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 4:29 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think that's the one that I was thinking of

I didn’t think it was either of the two I mentioned above.

Its nice having all these saber-savvy guys around.

Thanks, Joey.

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 1, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We have a groundswell...

that makes two of us who have considered it, although our formulae are slightly different.

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

WAR/RAR isn't especially useful here because they include fielding.

wOBA is probably a better measure of offensive production.

I think you’re somewhat overestimating the frequency with which a .700 OPS guy is more valuable offensively than an .800 OPS guy, but one example is Ellsbury, who has a .347 wOBA despite his .752 OPS. That’s not too far off Konerko and his .352 wOBA/.828 OPS, or even Kendry Morales and his .359/.866.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 12:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I should specify: RAR per FanGraphs.

RAR per BP is only offense, but then, as DJCahill points out, EqA is probably the way to go on that site.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 12:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Line-up construction and the lack of players that get on base

is why this thing has been so unproductive.

You can’t live with a 1B in the AL who has an OBP that hovers around .250.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The whole team has sucked balls.

Any order you put that in, they’re still sucking balls and nothing would have been different.

by Trickman on Jul 1, 2009 10:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed

If that’s all they’re going to get out of that position, either make Blaylock the first baseman or bring up Smoak.

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 6:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who is Blaylock?

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 8:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

\ 00.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 1, 2009 3:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

that would be me wiping the pepsi off my keyboard

ignore.

the preceding post was a great success.

by DSheppard on Jul 1, 2009 3:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

"this pat 10 games"

not enough coffee yet

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and also that when they make the playoffs

they will hit about like they did in June. It will be ugly (but quick at least).

by Goyogringo on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm baffled

how Hamilton is a lock.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:02 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Purely from his HR Derby Show last year

The fans love to see some Dingers

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Two words:

Fan voting.

Van voting blows. So does player voting, really. Voting for the ASG is kind of stupid, period. It’s billed as the collection of the best players in the league at each position, so that’s what it should be.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't have a problem with fan voting.

The All-Star game exists purely to excite fans, it’s for marketing and not a serious competition. The fans, who pay the salaries of everyone in baseball, should be allowed to watch the players they like. If you want to complain about things not based on merit, complain about the BBWAA awards.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 10:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Captivating the Nation

Hamilton entralled the entire baseball nation with his home run derby performance last year. What’s more he did it in New York so he’s getting a lot of that vote over there in the east coast. It makes sense but it’s unfortunate for those who are actually having a good year. At the end of the day it’s who the fans want to see so what the heck.

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 6:12 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Does anybody really blame Rudy?

He was here when they scored 901 runs.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:03 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

I don’t think he teaches them to sit back and take pitches. He wants them to go out there and swing at the first pitch. You can see what happens when they take pitches just look at last night.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

last night had much more to do with the pitcher they were going against than their approach.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Go back and look at what the Angels did to SF and how they took pitches

Then look at our hacktastic ways against SF. Does Rudy deserve all the blame? No, but he does deserve some of it. Just to throw a blanket statement out saying he deserves none is stupid.

Look what the Angels did with the Dodgers making them work and we just hacked away.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Are you going to blame Rudy for the problems KDavis is having?

Kris Davis has no business being in The Show right now.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok Josey

If you are going to blame RW and JD for everything that goes on you have to throw in Nolan and Rudy too. You just can’t absolve the people you like and blame everything on the ones you hate.

Your problem is you want your cake and eat it to. If it doesn’t fit what you want you make a square peg fit into a round hole.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 9:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

boomer

My interpretation of Nolan’s responsibilities -

Hicks holds the checkbook and sets the budget.

Nolan brought back Donuts & Wash and made the decision to extend Wash.

Nolan hired the pitching & bench coaches.

Donuts runs all trade ideas by Nolan, especially if the other team is asking for young pitching. We don’t get killed in trades any more nor do we give up prized young arms.

Nolan revamped everything having to do with the pitching staff (other than personnel). Nolan brought in new coaches and espoused a philosophy of working deeper into games plus put a huge emphasis on conditioning throughout the organization.

Donuts picks the staff. He is responsible for O’Day & Grilli AND Kris Benson.

Every day players & roster composition – this goes to Donuts with few exceptions – not sure who is responsible for AJones and Donuts says Andrus making this year’s team was an “organizational decision.”

Minor league players that are called up such as Boggs or Borbon falls under the umbrella of roster composition and that call is made by Donuts.

How is your view different?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This Donuts bit has gotten tiresome

He’s the GM of a major league baseball team, You may or may not like him and his moves but at least have the respect to use the mans name.

Maybe I’ll start referring to Nolan as GrandpaBeef or maybe Aged Beef

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 9:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Naw, it's Donuts

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rec'd.

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I call him...

Uncle Josey.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lonestarJon

You’ve just been glossed with the name of “Nehi”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 9:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

POW!

POWPOW!

"I love winning." - rockin_rangers, on May 16, 2009

by ghtd36 on Jul 1, 2009 10:07 AM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

The really funny part is...

I now have a spectacular replacement text for my troll blocker.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nah...

If galloway is referred to as Grandpa Urine than Josey is Uncle Urine

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

I agree

I’m pretty much with you on the Rangers Josey. That’s why I think we have problems long term and the “dynasty” that begins in 2010 might be just a little bit delayed. We have three very weak people in key leadership positions in this team – Wash, JD, and Hicks. Anybody that has worked in an organization knows that it’s very very difficult to overcome weak leadership. Having Nolan around is the only saving grace and IMO he gets the credit for the improved pitching. But long term we need changes. It’s not just the trades that are highly visible to us fans, but it’s the hundreds of smaller decisions that we are unaware of.

This team is years away from being a winner as theses prospects will need two or three years in the majors to develop – Holland is a good example. I think he will be a winner but I think it’s two years down the road. This whole #1 farm system is just JD’s smoke and mirrors. What do you think the A’s, Mariners, and Angels will be doing to improve in the next couple of years – hint, it won’t be sitting in awe of our Baseball America rating.

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how does granpa beef get credit?

he is the team president, the team president is not a pitching instructor.

And jd’s “smoke and mirrors” have given this team tons of trading ammo if they choose to use it, and have given this team an awesome defender at ss who is handling the jump to the majors extremely well.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nolan gets credit because...

He brought the philopsphy to work the pitchers harder, get them in better shape and go deeper in games. I think that has worked. He brought in a better pitching coach and I think that has helped too. The pitching is better and has made a difference.

Having trading ammo and prospects is good but does not guarantee a major league winner. The A’s and Angels also have strong farms. Plus, the Angeles and Mariners will spend which Hicks won’t do. How much better would this team be with Torii Hunter in center and Hammy at a corner OF spot.

I love Andrus and think the Tex trade was JD’s high water mark. I think ultimately it will yield a star (Andrus) and a solid catcher in Salty. The others I’m unsure about. Don’t forget, however, we gave up a legitimate major league superstar in Tex to get them, it’s not like they were for free.

Foolish consistency is the hobgobblin of little minds - Emerson

by RangerEddie on Jul 1, 2009 11:29 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hamilton

would not be here if Hunter had signed. If they had Hunter they would not have traded for Hamilton, so maybe you should say Hunter in CF and Volquez in the rotation. And Hunter didn’t sign because Hicks wouldn’t spend money, he signed because the Angels gave him a huge contract, more than he is worth over that time span, in my opinion. The Rangers made a fair offer, as much or more than I wanted them to spend on him.

You seem to be forgetting that Ryan has endorsed Daniels, Washington, Rudy, etc. If he publicly supports them and the work they’ve been doing, then he cannot be absolved from blame when things go wrong. They all share the blame and the credit.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why???

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 11:43 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

the angels farm system sucks

FWIW

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Wanker

One of Britain’s greatest contributions to the English language.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 1, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 12:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

clearly

JD paid off BA, BP and pretty much every other person who writes about scouting to say the rangers system and prospects are good

i mean, anyone who sees feliz knows hes lucky to top 80 on a good night, they juice the radar guns

and the andrus guy? its really omar vizqel. they made him get plastic surgery — chris davis last year? that was actually hamilton hitting in two of the lineup spots — he switched in and out of jerseys in the clubhouse

also if i could guess about the a’s, mariners and angels — they will be promoting guys like josh fields (pitcher), will smith, chris carter and henry rodriguez to their major league teams…ya know, since those guys are in their minor league system

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 11:53 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

neither does HanKK BlalocKK.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 9:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Nor does Blalock.

I’d rather have Abreu right now for slightly less money.

by Redcaps on Jul 1, 2009 9:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think Rudy focuses that much on the philosophical aspects with the players

From everything I’ve read, his approach mostly consists of mechanics and video comparisons of what they were doing when they were succesful vs. the suck.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jul 1, 2009 9:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy

There was a really nice interview with him in BP recently. You pretty much summed up what he said.
Mechanics, and video comparisons. He also said hitting is mostly mental.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

..and their mentality is "home run or nothing"

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 9:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you have a link for that?

I’d like to read that, although if it is subscription only I’m ass out.

I'm Matt mutha-effing Bush, bitches, and mutha-eff East County.

"I'm as passionate and knowlegeable as any fan out there." Josey Wales

by Brian Thomas on Jul 1, 2009 9:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was subscription

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 9:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

so was Milton

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 9:11 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And Ramon Vazquez

Who, as horrible as he was defensively, was really patient as well.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:12 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And had a career year

while here, like Milton did.

We need to accept that a lot of what happened with the offense last year was luck and good timing of career years. The same is true now, bad luck and a team wide slump. There is no magic cure for this, as disappointing as that is to accept. Firing Rudy woudn’t change a damn thing, and actually would probably cause more problems than it would solve. Would you want to be the next hitting coach after Rudy leaves? Good luck getting the ears of the players.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 10:56 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good point.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 11:25 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't forget

Ian’s career year

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How is good ole' Ramon doing this year?

I haven’t heard much about him, didn’t he sign a 3 yr deal?

"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Jul 1, 2009 4:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup

With the Pirates.

And no one cares about the Pirates, so no one knows how he’s doing.

by Trickman on Jul 1, 2009 4:26 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I guess that's the best way to put it.

Sorry Ramon!

"BIg whoop, wanna fight about it?"

by lost in space on Jul 1, 2009 4:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

The only year in his entire tenure where they worked the count, went oppo, relied on stringing hits together-NOT A COINCIDENCE he was out most of the season.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 9:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok-I honestly thought it was longer.

My point is, though, that this is no different than the Rangers offense we have seen for years-boom or bust, gusher or dry hole. If Conner was held accountable and fired(and should have been), why are Rudy’s feet not held to the fire?

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 10:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Do you know, definitively, the reason(s) the Rangers fired Connor as pitching coach?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He sucked?

League high ERA? Most runs allowed? Do you need more?

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 10:46 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So what you're saying is, you don't know.

Do you know what his relationship was like with the pitching staff? The front office? Other elements of the organization? Do you know if he was blamed, at all, for pitchers’ injuries? Unsuccessful changes in mechanics? Under-performance? Were pitchers’ tuning him out, or complaining about him? How much of the performance last year was chalked up to injuries and lack of talent?

I don’t think the Rangers commented on any of this, and the fact that they re-hired Connor seems to indicate something about how absolutely incompetent (or not) they thought he was. I also don’t know any of the respective facts about Jaramillo, which would probably go a long way toward indicating why he’s still the hitting coach for the club.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well he did something to get fired didn't he?

Injuries happen but Millwood and Padilla are veterans that should have listened to him. Not to mention the young arms that came up with injuries that had never had any type of arm injuries before in the minors. You are right I don’t know and neither do you or Josey or anyone else. The only thing we do know is he got fired and the staff sucked last year.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 10:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This was my point:
You are right I don’t know and neither do you or Josey or anyone else. The only thing we do know is he got fired and the staff sucked last year.

Accordingly, we can’t answer this question:

If Conner was held accountable and fired (and should have been), why are Rudy’s feet not held to the fire?

We don’t know for what Connor was held accountable and fired, and so it’s very hard to use his case as a basis for criticizing the Rangers’ handling of Jaramillo.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:06 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy's feet should be put to the fire IMO

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Only reason they are not right now

Is because he is widely regarded as the best hitting coach in baseball. IMO

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's a pretty good reason.

Whether it’s true or not is something else again.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:13 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yay we agree!

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not so sure we do,

but I’m willing to fake it.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Woo Hoo

Fake it till you make it! lol

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 11:22 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why do people keep saying that?

You think his being out for part of the season was some magical thing despite him being with the team and working with some of those hitters for years as well as working with them for the majority of the time from Februrary/March through the end of the season.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because people love

simple answers to complicated questions, and the need to have someone to blame is very, very strong at times like this.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 10:57 AM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Exactly.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I honestly don't blame Rudy

Even he said he wouldn’t throw strikes to this team if he was the opposing pitcher. I think impatient hitters like Davis, Blalock and the 2009 version of Byrd are more to blame than anything…

by jcir454 on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

This.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:23 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ranger DH's in 2009 -

17 HR/39 RBI .803 OPS (rank 6th in AL)

Ranger 1B in 2009 -

16 HR/36 RBI .685 OPS (rank 13 in AL)*

  • the 12th ranked (Baltimore) AL 1B has an OPS of .747

Kris Davis is killing this offense and this team’s chances of winning.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

water is wet

Greatest Inventions Ever? 1. TiVO, 2. Boobs, 3. Baseball

by willamos2 on Jul 1, 2009 10:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sky is blue

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 10:41 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

oiajapoitq

First< CD has consistently been around .685 for the year. Hank and AJ’s ops has been dropping since the first series vs Cleveland. Second, CD bats 7-8. The Ranger’s DH bats 3-5. CD is not killing this offense or thier chances to win.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yes he is,

he’s just not killing it all by himself.

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by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Davis is hurting the offense, but...

I think it was to be expected that the 7-9 guys wouldn’t be a huge help. I still think, even though the DH spot isn’t doing horrible, that it should be doing more to carry the offense than it is. And is has been doing less carrying as the season has progressed. At least, as you mention, Davis has been stopping the bleeding a bit.

After all, the ONLY value the DH provides is offfense, right?

The Texas Rangers have been synonymous with explosive firepower ever since they emptied 130 rounds into Bonnie Parker and Clyde Barrow in 1934. - Alyssa Milano

by bking on Jul 1, 2009 11:48 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comic relief.

Maybe that’s just for the Rangers, though.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hank the Hotfooter?

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Heh.

I’ve found his performance at the plate less than hilarious, but his hacking does have a certain slapstick element to it, doesn’t it?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:58 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ranger Mad, Per Blalock

Bullshit.

He was starting to catch fire towards the end of May and then became a part of a heavy platoon system so we could, you know , watch KKKKKKKKKKKKris Davis continue to shit in his diaper every night (except when they face somebody like Haren).

Blalock has not responded well to the platoon system but he’s probably trying to hit 5 run HR’s with each ab so he can get back in the every day line-up.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

as dean wormer told flounder

fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life. i just wish Hank would take that to heart

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 12:39 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hank

drives a car with words “EAT ME” painted on the side.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 12:48 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

with a slice of pie angled perfectly so it looks like he's eating it at all times, and a cold beer right next to it?

yeah i think i saw him around town one day.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 1:49 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bullshit back to you Josey

Yes, he was swinging the bat well at the end of May and the first 2 games of June. But that was only a stretch of 8 games. Hank can whine about not being a FT starter all he wants. The fact that he cannot hit LHP is why AJ is even here.

As for CD, I am all for sending him down for two weeks and letting Hank play 1B fulltime. It might get both of them going.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 12:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hank had a .900+ OPS v leftys last year

so I’m not sure “that’s why AJ is here.”

Hank hasn’t done himself any favors by not hitting well in the platoon system unveiled in June and he may not be the definitive answer…but given how Davis shits his pants every single night and has been doing so since spring training began, why not see if Blalock responds to playing every day with AJ DHing?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:46 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

SSS

Blalock only had 83 AB against lefties last year

He’s got a career line of .229 / .281 / .370 / .652 in 905 ABs. I’ll go with the larger sample size, thank you.

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josey

You know, for someone who’s so quick to accuse everyone else of fellating Jon Daniels, you sure do spend a lot of time with your tongue around Hank Blalock’s shaft.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He appears to be

testing out his gag refllex.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 1:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm usually on the other end of those

and don’t have the insight on particulars like you do, Cahill.

You’ve ventured outside your box of boredom to make an actual offering where humor was involved. Get back in before you start crying.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

fail

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 2:04 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I still don't remember you, jslick

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Disappointing season from the Hammer and I would stfu

if this offense wasn’t reminscient of the ’72 Rangers.

The current plan is not working.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, it's not

But the solution isn’t to make Blalock a full-time player again.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how was the 2007 offense?

That is what the 2009 offense resembles.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Every season

from Hank is disappointing for the last several years running, either through performance and/or injury. According to your standards he’s at least as much of a vagina as McCarthy.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No, tball

they’re different.

Hank has shown that he can play every day in the past.

Ichabod McCarthy has never shown the ability to take the ball every 5 days as a starter in The Show. His body rejected the very notion he could do it.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok,

whatever. Both are wildly disappointing players to me.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And KKKKKris Davis is hitting something like

.148 v leftys this year.

The kid has a bright future, it’s just not going to happen this year.

He’s drowning in front of us and worse, he’s costing us games.

Did I mention he’s currently rocking a 1 for 14 in the midst of one of the most important series of the year?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock is 2 for his last 17

Yeah, that’s much better.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Josey

While Davis is sucking, which he is mightily, at least he is doing so out of the 8 spot in the order and not the 3,4,or 5 spot like Blalock has been.

I agree with you that Davis needs to go down and we should probably roll with hank at 1B for a little while. However that move alone won’t fix this ailing offense which is something you simply can’t admit.

But along with playing Hank everyday he should not hit higher than 7th against lefties until he starts showing he can hit them like he did last year as opposed to the rest of his career.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 1, 2009 2:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

bigsteve, I'm totally on board with getting Hanks ass out of the 3 hole.

He doesn’t make out the line-up so it’s not his fault.

I think he was hitting 6th on Friday night when he went off on SDO.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kinsler may not be a worldbeater at the plate lately, but it sure would suck if Pedroia beat him out.

Kinz still leads all starting AL 2B’s with a .378 wOBA, and is behind only Polanco and Kendrick in UZR/150, and they’ve done nothing at the plate this year. His overall #’s are buoyed by his April of course, but overall he still deserves the starting spot.

Pedroia hit .222/.282/.287 for June and his wOBA is down to the “meh” territory at .341. He’s also almost 3 runs behind Kinsler in UZR/150.

Most telling is their WAR’s: Kinsler’s 3.2 still lead’s AL 2B’s (well, unless you really count Ben Zobrist as a 2B), and while Pedrioa is still third behind Kinz and Aaron hill, his has dripped to 1.8.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:04 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Pedroia

Is the poster child for undeserving.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 9:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a baseball writers wet dream

Short like David Eckstein, shaves as often as Darin Erstad, but is actually reasonably good at baseball.

His numbers may have been meritful as well last year, but I’m convinced that’s why he got the MVP.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's a fucking smurf. End of story.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 9:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Malignant dwarf

Labeled long ago.

"He uses statistics as a drunken man uses lamp-posts... for support rather than illumination." - Andrew Lang (1844-1912) also -

"Telephone, n. An invention of the devil which abrogates some of the advantages of making a disagreeable person keep his distance."
~Ambrose Bierce

by Ed Coffin on Jul 1, 2009 12:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about

a malignant tumor on a smurf?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

he had a good arguement for the mvp last year

i would have voted for sizemore, but he was pretty good himself

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 9:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If I had a vote for MVP last season, I would have pulled an EG

Simply because I hate the idea of a guy like Pedroia winning the MVP.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He cant hit the high inside fastball!!

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 10:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

do you know any other MVPS who cant hit that pitch?

no pedroia, only one

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:36 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Offense for June

Thank God June is over. Hopefully the bats turn around with the new month

NAME BA/ OBP/ SLG OPS
David Murphy 0.296/ 0.360/ 0.531 0.890
Ian Kinsler 0.245/ 0.311/ 0.462 0.773
Michael Young 0.267/ 0.342/ 0.419 0.761
Marlon Byrd 0.256/ 0.303/ 0.444 0.747
Nelson Cruz 0.193/ 0.268/ 0.409 0.677
Chris Davis 0.220/ 0.273/ 0.402 0.675
Andruw Jones 0.170/ 0.224/ 0.415 0.639
Elvis Andrus 0.238/ 0.342/ 0.270 0.612
Hank Blalock 0.179/ 0.254/ 0.339 0.593
J. Saltalamacchia 0.239/ 0.270/ 0.310 0.580
Matt Harrison 0.000/ 0.500/ 0.000 0.500
Omar Vizquel 0.211/ 0.286/ 0.211 0.496
T. Teagarden 0.136/ 0.136/ 0.273 0.409
Brandon Boggs 0.059/ 0.111/ 0.118 0.229
Julio Borbon 0.000/ 0.000/ 0.000 0.000

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 9:25 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Murphy really sticks out

no idea why we still don’t hit him 1st or 2nd more often

he is THE only guy that consistently works pitchers

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's not completely true.

Sure, Murphy leads the team with 4.17 p/pa but guess who’s second at 4.03 p/pa? None other than Chris Davis.

by Redcaps on Jul 1, 2009 11:14 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

there is a difference between working the count

and working your way to a strikeout

chris davis simplly sees that many pitches because he swings and misses an inordinate amount of time

by dustinvandeman on Jul 1, 2009 11:18 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes this is correct

"You're going to love my nuts"

Vince from slap chop

by BigGuns on Jul 1, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not really

He’s been working counts a lot better than most of the guys on the team. Unfortunately, he still hasn’t been able to make solid contact consistently.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

funny thing

I’ve noticed that, and almost made a mention…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If only

they’d play Blalock every day, you know he’s an every day player. Any month David Murphy leads your offense is not a good month. He’s a nice player, but no way should he be leading a team’s lineup.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Blalock's only playing poorly because that dumbass Wash put him in a strict platoon

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

But his OPS is so much

higher lower than the guy who was supposed to drown, and was too young to be called up…

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Andrus OPS is actually ~75 points lower than Blalock's.

All SLG, though. Andrus has a 45-point advantage in OBP…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:16 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

1B and C

is really where the offense has been failing this year. Both positions are around 10 runs below average.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yup.

And, go figure: the average age of the players manning those two positions this season is right around 24.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

According to

Thad Levine’s magic numbers, you can’t use that excuse much longer for Salty. He’s pretty close to the 750 AB limit where you reach your norms. Davis is around 2 months away.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Since I don't put much credence in Levine's "magic numbers,"

I don’t much consider them in evaluating Saltalamacchia’s potential.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:39 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally,

I see no reason to think he is suddenly going to have a revelation and become Mike Piazza Jr. Maybe slightly better than league average, but there isn’t much reason to believe in the hype on him as a big time bat.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gee, let's hold Satalamacchia up to the best-hitting catcher in history.

I don’t think it’s Piazza-or-bust.

All I’m saying is: he’s young, he’s been concentrating on learning how to use the tools of ignorance, and Rangers fans could stand to be patient with him in terms of his development…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Except

We’ve seen lots of catcher concentrate on their defense and lose their bats. The players who does both well is exceedingly rare. I think the Rangers are willing to have less offense at catcher, preferring a strong defensive guy there. Salty will probably hit a little better than he is right now over the course of his career, but not by much if he keeps the defensive work as a focus.

I don’t mind the trade off at catcher. 1B is a much bigger problem. Luckily, 1B has a solid solution quickly on the way if Davis can’t get his shit together.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Saltalamacchia may well improve at the plate

once he’s more comfortable behind it. It’s simply too soon to tell how his focus on defense might affect his offense over the longer haul.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:54 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

The one thing about Salty that continues to keep me from giving up on him

is that he hits the ball extremely hard when he puts them in play. The gratuitous prelim Hit f/x data from April showed that he had the second highest average speed for balls coming off the bat on the team (Nelson is #1), and is among top 15 hitters in the league. He also has the highest line drive % on the entire team. You hit the ball hard, and you hit them as line drive – that’s a pretty good combination.

The problem continues to be that he can’t put enough balls in play. Last season, he lead the entire league in the percentage of foul balls (percentage of all swings taken when contact was made and the ball hit foul), and his foul ball % is again among the highest in the league this year. That stat alone doesn’t say anything about the hitter (last year, the top 10 hitter in foul ball % had people like Andruw Jones and Miguel Montero, but also Carlos Pena, Jack Cust, and Brad Hawpe).

He has also shown the ability to work counts and take walks, but got more aggressive this year without positive results so far. He strikes out a lot and will continue to do so, but he has shown that he possess above average qualities in all other areas of hitting – just not at the same time. Of course, this is also what makes him frustrating to watch sometimes. He doesn’t look lost like Chris Davis, but the results hasn’t been much better. At least now, his improved defense will allow the team to give him time.

by Telegraph on Jul 1, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Satalamacchia's approach at the plate is terrible right now.

He’s walking less than half as often as he did last year, and striking out exactly as frequently ~ swinging at too many damn pitches outside of the zone.

Fortunately, none of that is a fundamental flaw that can’t be addressed. He’s 24, and he’s been concentrating on his defense. It’s simply too soon to talk about giving up on him.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think

adjusting your sights downward from how he was originally sold when we acquired him from the Braves is giving up on him. When we got him from the Braves, there was talk that his Bat played well enough that you could stick him at 1B.

I don’t think its unfair to say thats pretty unlikely.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 3:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree; I was responding to:
The one thing about Salty that continues to keep me from giving up on him…

That seems a bit extreme.

No, Saltalamacchia’s bat isn’t living up to its billing. Yes, that’s worrisome ~ but given his focus on defense this season, and his relative youth, I don’t think it’s unfair to suggest that folks should be patient with his development.

And as I remember it, the idea of moving him to first was predicated on his defensive problems behind the plate ~ and criticized exactly because he didn’t hit enough for the position. And the improvement of his catching skills seems to have put to rest the concerns that he might need to switch positions…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree 100%

when Salty came over in the trade he was billed as an offensive catcher whos bat would make up for his defensive shortcomings. His rookie year split between ATL and TEX showed that. he hit and hit for power. Then last year his power went away. Whether it was the inconsistent playing time or what it was nowhere to be found. And his defense was bad. About the only positive out of Salty last year was his ability to draw a walk which even that had its drawbacks. As Telegraph pointed out above he hit an extremely high number of foul balls. That coupled with watching him take so many good pitches for strikes seemingly in order to get deep in counts was bothersome.

This year we have seen a different Salty. Not necessarily a better Salty but a different Salty. he is still hitting alot of foul balls but he is also attacking pitches that last year he was watching go right down the pipe. He is also swinging at more out of the strike zone which is not good. His batting average has remained the same and probably where its always gonna be (the .250 range). But his power numbers have increased (3 more HR so far and a .013 increase in slugging) while his walks and OBP have decreased significantly.

I believe once Salty finds the happy medium between last year and this year he will be just what we envisioned when we traded for him but with vastly improved defense. My hope is that by the end of next year he has maintained this increase in slugging and possibly increased it furthur to around .380-.390. And he gets his OBP back up to around the .330-.340 range. If he does that with his improved defense we will have no worries at the catcher position for a long time.

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 1, 2009 2:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the above numbers...huh?

Andrus 0.612
Hack 0.593

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 11:42 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know what you're looking at,

but it’s not OPS for 2009.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:44 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh. You're just looking at June.

Got it.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets get Kinsler in!

I dont wanna see that d-bag Pedroia starting again this year…

'Howard makes me fear the NKoreans less... If they shot anything at us, he’d be there to block it." - Aquaman56

"Also Ian’s season is following the same pattern as Ricky Martins Career. Both needed another hit, bad." - SaltyGoesYard

by hinduplaya on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

I’ve got 24 more to go…

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 1, 2009 11:00 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rotation plans

Why do they keep pushing back Holland’s start? I thought he was going to pitch on Friday.

Tommy Hunter’s next start for the Rangers will come Friday against Tampa Bay. Vicente Padilla will start Saturday and either Scott Feldman or Derek Holland on Sunday.

Kevin Millwood will start Monday’s series opener at Los Angeles, and either Feldman or Holland will follow Tuesday. Hunter is slated to start July 8 in Anaheim.

If Derek goes on Sunday he won’t be able to start on Tuesday.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 9:27 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who knows

Worried about his innings totals maybe? All’s I know is it seems like Dutch’s schedule gets jacked around more than a baseball writer thinking about Dustin Pedroia.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 9:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think its to try and manage his innings some

And with the off-day and decision to stick with Hunter over skipping the 5th spot in the rotation, Holland can get an extra day of rest while Hunter goes on schedule. Giving him an extra day of rest won’t hurt him at least.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe they are working with him on the side to scrub off

some of the suck.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

stadium hotel question

Making my first trip to the ballpark this summer. What is the best hotel option that is walking-distance from the stadium? Any recommendation is very much appreciated. Thanks!

by Swamp Fox on Jul 1, 2009 9:47 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

used to be the marriott then the W i believe

i LOVED that pool (HUGE) when i was a kid — one of my fav places in the world to go back in the day

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
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"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:38 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yes the Sheraton is really close...

"You're going to love my nuts"

Vince from slap chop

by BigGuns on Jul 1, 2009 11:03 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

less than $200 a night btw..

"You're going to love my nuts"

Vince from slap chop

by BigGuns on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Thanks for the suggestions

Sheraton Arlington was booked, so we’re going with the Crown Plaza Suites instead. Only 2 miles away, but they claim to have a shuttle to/from the stadium anyway.

by Swamp Fox on Jul 1, 2009 7:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Rudy

is the bestest hitting coach ever. The holy grail of hitting coaches. Amazes me that he’s not held accountable at all.

I'd love for part of the "new look" to be a return to the red uniforms of the 1990s. - Ian Kinsler

by ortonius on Jul 1, 2009 10:15 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

How would you account for Rudy?

Rub his nose in it a little? Doesn’t it sound retarded?

He’s not getting fired.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 11:47 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Burn his feet to a blackened crisp.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:50 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the odds are growing

that he won’ tbe back next year

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 11:57 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Said who?

He’s under contract, IIRC.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 12:00 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is the last year i think

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 12:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

last year of his contract

Team is mostly playing well under RW. Ron is under contract for next year and I can see his “power” growing with the FO. Add in this year’s inconsistent offense and last year’s high obp offense (a style that is not Rudy’s MO.) and Wash might be able to make a strong case to bring in his guy and style of offense.

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 12:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can't believe this shit goes on every day...

Sometimes I come on LSB and feel like I’m in a crowd of people who are incredibly bored, and a little dim.

One guess what I’m talking about.

Every. Fucking. Day.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 1, 2009 10:20 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

You can stop coming here

I doubt you’d be missed.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 10:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Welcome to the internet.

Get on base or die, Salty.

"I don’t think we ever envisioned that anyone could shut this offense down to one hit" - Ron Washington

Hello Win Column

by lonestarJon on Jul 1, 2009 10:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

We just got a Bill James up and in!

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 10:26 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right when I see a josey post...

I usually roll past it and anything replying to it…..because it is a broken record.

by death of the cool on Jul 1, 2009 10:34 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

death of the cool - Don't fool yourself

Everything I write is put under a microscope by the vast majority of LSB hoping to find a loophole where they can trip me up or try to prove me wrong.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 10:37 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and you ask for it and get everything you deserve

you arent the same guy i used to back up before JD got here. Remember the Sori ain 40/40 war? we were side by side against the idiots. now, you run out the same broken record, and you logic has been toiletized. what the hell happend. its like you spew dumbassness and ask for retarded comebacks all day every day.

i dunno what changed, but you used to be a good conversation contributor and i havent seen ya offer shit in years. its like the pop artist who puts out the same shitty album every year. you were better than that back in the day

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 12:01 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

"Jayslick"

Sorry, don’t remember you.

If you wanna get on my radar, write with a little more flair or bring something to the table that demonstrates a modicum of Great Game knowledge

OR

send me a pm like Rodney did wanting to meet me after he got his widdle baseball feelings hurt.

As the great Doyle King would say “Now, that’s funny!!”

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:55 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

your a dumbass josey

it was 100+ pages on NMLR if you dont remember that but so vividly recall the ’72 season offensively, well, that selective memory which fits right in with your modus operandi.

i stay out of your sites these days, b/c you arent worth it. you dont add to conversations and those arguing with you take away from their own credibility in doing so.

my point wasnt even for you to remember the whole debate or me, my point was at one point you used to be able to put out a reasonable argument on good and varying topics ranger related, and blow the doors off of the idiots. i know, i was one of the 2 you being the other that kicked their ass in that argument. I havent seen that from your end in years. dont worry, i quit bothering to critically analyze and debate many of the morons there and here as well since then as it wasnt worth the time. The biggest difference is you dont hide in the shadows and pop in to make a point like i try so miserably to do. you just spit out the same shit, front and center every day of every month of every year going on 4 years now. its nuts. and i mean literally nuts.

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No wonder I don't remember you, jslick.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 2:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

im sure it was a totally different guy then

youre way bigger of a dick and have way fewer rational thoughts than that guy a few years ago on NMLR boards, so it prob wasnt even you

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 2:56 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

what are you talking about?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 10:45 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I assume

HTS means the daily destructive clutter JW fish-hooks so many seemingly sane people into helping him produce.

by shroomer on Jul 1, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bingo.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 1, 2009 1:37 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

thx

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't think they're especially dim, HTS.

Naive?

Oh yeah.

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

OT: "Moneyball" back in development.

Soderbergh’s out.

(Sorry if this had been posted elsewhere, but didn’t turn up in a search.)

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 10:35 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Why?

Why does anyone care about making this book into a movie?

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have no idea

how you make that a good movie.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wouldn't be hard to make it a good movie for fans of the book

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I can see a small budget documentary

but a $50 million major motion picture? No way you get the money back.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 11:08 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

or fans of Brad Pitt

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 1, 2009 11:40 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't know ~ but it had been mentioned on LSB before,

and I figured it was worth linking the NYT article for those who might be interested.

“Back in development” isn’t a good thing, by the way ~ doesn’t look as if the movie’s likely to get made at this point.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:02 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh, I understood the reason for posting it

my diatribe is directed at Hollywood. To make that an interesting movie you’d have to make the story up, and I’m not interested in even more misconceptions about the book being fomented.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 11:07 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree,

but I do think it’d be entertaining to see how they’d adapt it for the big screen, in a car-wreck sort of way…

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:19 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do enjoy walking out of terrible movies halfway through,

but only as long as I didn’t pay for my ticket.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:59 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rec

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 11:01 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JFE

It’s like I said once- she doesn’t have an idea that Randy Galloway didn’t think of first.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 1, 2009 11:09 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree but...

I think Randy gets his ideas from the ghost of Seattle Slew.

2009 Texas Rangers: Why The Hell Not Us?--ghtd36 on May 13, 2009

by boomer1 on Jul 1, 2009 11:10 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

it makes me want Rudy to be gone that much more

when he is endorsed by those 2

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 1, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

when i read the AM stuff

i was like, damn, i thought that bitch was dead.

no such luck

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

am JFE

she was out on maternity leave IIRC.

I soloed in the Mile High Club!

by horsedooty on Jul 1, 2009 12:35 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Somebody decided to procreate with her?!?!?!

"wORLD sEIRES HERE WE COMER!!!!!!!!!"by bigsteve on May 29, 2009 10:21 PM PDT
"Elvis Andrus has just performed a miracle." -Eric Nadel

by WestTxAg06 on Jul 1, 2009 1:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Turkey Baster

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 1:40 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And even the Turkey

had to get drunk first.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Snap.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 5:06 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I Just finished voting for the 50th time for Kinsler over Pedroia

As much as Kins has struggled i cannot stand to see Pedroia beating him again, lets get out the online vote, 2 days left, most of us have more than one email account, so voting more than 25 times is easy, i used IE and Firefox browsers to avoid the cookies, plus you get free rangers tickets (for $2.00, so almost free) Lets all vote him in.

Larry Parrish Was Da Man!

by TRFAN on Jul 1, 2009 11:05 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

A Boston freind of mine told me yesterday

that unknown to most, you can vote 25 times per e-mail address PER DAY! Not believing him I (already having voted 25 times weeks ago) tried again using the same address and low and behold……IT WORKED. Hmmm.

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

by 525DP on Jul 1, 2009 11:21 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm not sure that you can't just make up an e-mail address on the spot and use that

Not sure if it counts, but you don’t get any error messages or anything like that if you use one that you made up on the spot

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently

you can do that too. What a joke!

ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒE

by 525DP on Jul 1, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huge joke

So when you can’t beat them, join them :D .

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Just tried it on the email address that I already used 25 times and it worked.
This system really is a joke.

"I'm against picketing, but I don't know how to show it." - Mitch Hedberg

by rentz on Jul 1, 2009 12:59 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

How do you claim your tickets after you have done all your voting?

"Thats all we got? One goddamned hit?" - Harry Doyle
"You cant say god damn on the radio."- Colorman
"Ehhh, who cares...nobody's listening!"- Harry Doyle

by awillis111 on Jul 1, 2009 12:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its after the AS game

You get an e-mail about it

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 12:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

If you can remember your email address(es)

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 12:19 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just voted 100 times....

in under 30 minutes (took about 6-8 minutes per email address)

So if I commit to doing this while watching the game….

3 hours = 600 votes just for myself.

We should all commit to at least 100 during the game…just so that punk ass bitch pedroia won’t start the All-star game….

LETS BURN THIS MOTHER FUCKER TO THE GROUND!!!!!!

by death of the cool on Jul 1, 2009 12:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stopped at 75

That should help

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 6:57 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

I remember last season, I voted a good few times during games.

By 2028, Mark Teixeira will be in the HOF.

"I am one of the biggest Texas Ranger fans out there but I'm also one of the smartest. Deal with it."
-The Outlaw

by Gdawg on Jul 1, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So Engel and Galloway absolve Rudy of blame

since they have such a vast knowledge of baseball, I’m going to go out on a limb and say it’s a safe bet that Rudy IS to blame. When you get Galloway AND Engel’s endorsement, there is definitely something wrong.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 1, 2009 11:23 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Nice!
BenBadler Santa will be delivering expensive presents tomorrow to the #Rangers, #Yankees, #Red Sox, #Mariners, #Cardinals and #Mets

link

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 1, 2009 11:49 AM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Who dammit!!!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Profar

BENZEMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

by LiamP on Jul 1, 2009 12:30 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone else though?

High level, I mean.

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 12:45 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Mariners are on there,

which is something of a bad news

by Telegraph on Jul 1, 2009 2:50 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't speak Tweet

what does this mean?

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Latin American signing opens.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 11:52 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

rangers, yanks, red sox, mariners and cardinals and mets will be signing guys

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 11:55 AM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

ahhh thank you

"Hang-Dai, Wu...Hang-Fu$&ing-Dai"

by Walter Sobchak on Jul 1, 2009 12:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I know everyone hates Twitter

But I will be tweeting during tonight’s RedHawks/I-Cubs game. So if you’re on there and want to receive updates, follow me. I’m “mkc2317.” Some of you already do follow me, so if you want to relay my tweets in the GDT, feel free.

Hope Millwood and the bats can beat the Halos tonight!

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 1, 2009 1:09 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

Hah, I thought you might be road tripping to see Josh.

Have fun!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 1:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Des Moines isn't exactly a roadtrip

Only about 40 minutes from my driveway to the ballpark. I had already planned to go anyway. Taking dad as a belated Father’s Day gift. He’s pretty excited at the chance to see Josh play.

-- Micah
Baseball Is My Boyfriend
I'm an Andrus-caliber catch. :-)

by baseballismyboyfriend on Jul 1, 2009 1:24 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

did you decide what you are wearing?

Will it be the Josh jersey, RedHawk jersey or the dog sweater?

"You're going to love my nuts"

Vince from slap chop

by BigGuns on Jul 1, 2009 1:27 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I haven't exactly memorized the map of Iowa...

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 1:28 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's very cool

for your dad.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:21 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

Just no.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 1:41 PM CDT up reply actions   2 recs

Why would we want you8r tweets in the GDT

Isn’t it a MINOR LEAGUE GAME you are going to?

We have a minors thread already open for today. I think thats where they should go

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 1, 2009 1:54 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh

I really don’t get excited about rehab performances. Thats just me though

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"You're going to love my nuts"

Vince from slap chop

by BigGuns on Jul 1, 2009 4:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 5:13 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Duran was claimed by Houston!

Elvis has "shook up" Arlington!!

by thad728 on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

buh-bye

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Really?

They claimed a guy who’s on the DL following an appendectomy?

Man, are the Astros hard up for players.

"I dont care to debate with a troll." - Sharky

by RCCook on Jul 1, 2009 2:01 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Houston

Do we need to say more?

Elvis Andrus - 2009 AL Rookie of the Year
Mitch Moreland - 2009 Rangers Minor League POY

by RangerMad on Jul 1, 2009 2:11 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Just coming to post that.

Thought they’d get away with that waive, really too bad.

"[Font} doesn't turn 19 until the end of May and his heater can already hit 99 on the gun. That's baseball porn." - Jason Parks

by hightowersmith on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ehh

not a big loss really. It was a good move by JD to try and manipulate the system to keep him but im not gonna lose any sleep over losing german Duran out of our organization.

But I thought he was waived like a week ago and teams only had 2 business days to claim him

Bryan Smith (12:17:17 PM PT): Justin Smoak and Josh Hamilton. The AL West might just have found their Bash Brothers, v. 2.0.

by bigsteve on Jul 1, 2009 2:05 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah,

doing it over a weekend isn’t probably the best move if you want to keep him.

All in all though, I just don’t see him as anything but a cheap starting 2B at best, and more likely, a bench player.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

Duran is ok, but I think Lemon and Vallejo are better, so this is no big deal really.

A baseball game is simply a nervous breakdown divided into nine innings.

by NothinG on Jul 1, 2009 2:14 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

and Arias is better

The 2009 Texas Rangers offense: sigh...

by Kinslerhomer on Jul 1, 2009 2:17 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've got a new nickname for Chris Davis

Chris Kringle.

Follow me here…
Chris “Swing and Miss” Davis → Chris “Miss” Davis → Christmas Davis → Chris Kringle.

by NorCalRangersFan on Jul 1, 2009 2:03 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At this point

Chris Davis is synonymous with giving away at bats anyway, so I think you can just say Chris Davis.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 2:23 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

my nickname for him is Christ! Davis

as in “Christ! Davis struck out again?”

mormons stole me and held me against my will with Oklahoma beer and 12+ hour work days.

by Jayslick on Jul 1, 2009 2:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

how about just "Special K"?

we're from Texas
CJ says "Relax"

by eclou on Jul 1, 2009 2:42 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

heres an idea

call him chris davis

…whats the deal with EVERY PLAYER EVERYWHERE needing a nickname?

Scout: He was a first-round pick right? Got a huge bonus?
KG: Oh yeah.
Scout: Well, he spent a lot of it on milkshakes.
-
"Call up Joaquin Arias? He had a legit spring training and seems to have cooled off a little bit in OKC but still a DH option. " -- kch tx

by knockoutking on Jul 1, 2009 2:47 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Davis is a nickname

as in, “Dammit, Salty just Chris Davis’d”

by Telegraph on Jul 1, 2009 2:51 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I like KKKKKKKKKKKris Davis

just because so many folks hate it.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 3:02 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Note the handle.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 5:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's medicinal dammit!

"Back on the scene, with a gangsta lean" RW
"you gonna lose your horse. seriously." FX2
Yes we can! November 04, 2008

by Rodney on Jul 1, 2009 5:18 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sammy Sosa's Rangers

Sammy Sosa, 2007: .252/.311/.468, 102 OPS+
Texas Rangers, 2009: .256/.317/.455, 100 OPS+

by Joey Matschulat on Jul 1, 2009 4:06 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

At least Sammy could hit lefties

you couldn’t even use the Rangers as a platoon.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 4:15 PM CDT up reply actions   1 recs

Sammy is an every day player!

/Hank Blalock.

G G G E-flat_______ F F F D__________....

by t ball on Jul 1, 2009 4:32 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear.

"We're One Nation Under a Groove"
- Ayjayem

by Chase Irwin on Jul 1, 2009 5:16 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Right: does this seems ridiculous to anyone else?

Borbon unlikely to play this week, according to Evan Grant:

Julio Borbon Not In Lineup Today, Probably Not Friday; Don’t Even Ask About The Weekend

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 5:30 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm not surprised in the least

one of the reasons I wasn’t particularly pumped to see him called up.

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 5:33 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

So why the hell was Borbon in the line-up on Monday night?

"Dying ain't hard. It's living that's hard."

" I don’t feel like arguing with laxtonto about it for the same reason I wouldn’t argue with him if he said the earth was flat. He’s a person who is happy with his head up his ass so why should I make him sad?"

by Josey Wales on Jul 1, 2009 5:34 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't get it.

He’s the hottest bat with Oklahoma City, Washington tells the press, so they’re planning to keep him on the bench until Hamilton gets back, at which point ~ what, exactly? Why bring the guy up at all?

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 5:36 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because Wash

is loyal to his vets, and pissing them off to get a rook some at bats, when he is most likely to suck it up for a couple hundred at bats, is probably not a winning strategy for Wash.

Why do people expect to see him used much different from Boggs?

"I saw a soldier try to dig a foxhole with his bare hands. He didn't notice that he'd torn off all his fingernails. I got him out of there quickly; not for his sake, but for ours. Fear is poison in combat...destructive, contagious." - Band of Brothers

by DJCahill on Jul 1, 2009 5:43 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boggs isn't forecasted to be a future everyday player, for one.

If Washington was going to refuse to play Borbon to keep Byrd (and maybe Murphy) happy, yet the front office decided to call Borbon up anyhow ~ well, that makes me wonder if there’s not a serious problem with the way in which this team’s management staff is strategerizing and communicating.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 5:52 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

And that was a terribly written post.

Apologies.

Your 2009 Texas Rangers: Can't take a fucking to save their lives.

by Snark on Jul 1, 2009 5:53 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's an idiot.

Because Wash took leave of his senses / had a brain fart / was threatened by Borbon’s family. Who knows. Why he would start Borbon at DH over Blaylock and Jones is idiotic.

Lewis - http://texasrangersbb.blogspot.com/

by Lewis on Jul 1, 2009 6:15 PM CDT up reply actions   0 recs

JD on the Ticket right now.

Definiton of insanity-doing the same thing and expecting different results
"Introducing your 2009 Texas Rangers-Built for Insanity!"

by randyd on Jul 1, 2009 5:58 PM CDT reply actions   0 recs

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