Halladay.....
by tklawless on Jul 14, 2009 11:12 AM CDT
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Supposedly the Angels are the 5/2 favorite to land Halladay......if reports are correct (Infielder Brandon Wood, a pitching prospect like Trevor Reckling or Jordan Walden.) How can the Rangers NOT be in the mix?
What is our equivilent of those guys (I'm not too familiar with them outside of Brandon Wood, and not too impressed with him, so far)......obviously the No-Trade is a big hurdle, but if he wants to win as he says, aren't the Rangers pretty well-positioned going forward to do that?
I know it's a long shot for Texas, but that offer from LA doesn't sound like much to me.
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You couldn't put some sort of indication of what this post contains in the title?
That’s pretty obnoxious.
Idle speculation is fine, of course.
But I thought maybe something had happened.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 11:14 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Davis
and Kiker would beat that offer…which leads me to believe that those reports are bogus.
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by clark on Jul 14, 2009 11:17 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm thinking Smoak instead of Davis.
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by chrisR on Jul 14, 2009 5:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No way that deal lands Halladay
Frankly, the Angels farm system is so worthless that they aren’t getting Halladay without taking on all of Vernon Wells’ contract, as well as anyone with any value from that organization.
I don’t think the Blue Jays trade Halladay if that is all they can get for him. Or, put another way, I’d be giddy if that is all they are asking, because we could get him without giving up Smoak or Feliz
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by JBImaknee on Jul 14, 2009 11:18 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Walden is injured
If I was Toronto’s GM I’d start off asking for Andrus and either Holland or Feliz and another lower prospect or two.
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by t ball on Jul 14, 2009 11:21 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
No way in hell we deal Andrus.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 11:24 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I would go all you and start punting babies if we traded Andrus along with Dutch or Feliz.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 14, 2009 11:28 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would you deal him for Halladay straight up?
Or, say, with some filler?
Andrus, Madrigal, Moreland and Engel Beltre?
I don’t think I do that.
I love, love, love Andrus and think he’s crazy valuable to this team going forward.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't really want to give up the guys it would take to get Halladay period
But even if I was, I wouldn’t ever trade Andrus for him, even straight up. Elvis is infield D’s cornerstone, and infield D is the main thing thats propping up our pitching staff this year. I mean, who do you replace him with? Arias? Move Young back there (shudder)?
Basically, even though you’d gain a TORP I think impact of the lost D on the rest of our mediocre starting staff might largely cancel out that accquisition.
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by lonestarJon on Jul 14, 2009 11:38 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would hurt a ton, but I'd do it, if we could get Halladay extended for 2 years
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2009 8:52 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Right, but if you're Ricky Ricardo
don’t you ask for him? They’ve had a world of suck at SS for a while now until this year, and I’m not sure they’ll resign Scutaro, who’s getting up there. I think Scutaro gets some nice offers given the sexiness of defense these days.
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by t ball on Jul 14, 2009 11:31 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Of course you ask for him
You probably ask for Elvis, Smoak and Feliz. And when JD stops laughing about forty minutes later (“Hey Nolan, get in here and listen to this – they actually want Elvis, Smoack AND Feliz! What do you say about that, boss??”) he rebuts with Davis, Vallejo and Boscan. Negotiations proceed from there.
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by JBImaknee on Jul 14, 2009 11:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sure, maybe. But not not in like a serious way.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 11:34 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't see why not.
Halladay is ten kinds of awesome, I’d ask the moon for him if I were to trade him away.
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by t ball on Jul 14, 2009 11:51 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because guys like Andrus don't get dealt.
They just don’t.
I don’t think I’d deal Andrus for Halladay straight up.
He’d only be doing his due diligence by inquiring on Andrus, but asking for Andrus + Holland/Feliz is ridiculous.
That’d be a ridiculous haul. Just silly. I know we got Feliz and Andrus + others for Tex in a similar situation, but both Andrus and Feliz were very different players then. Andrus is an incredibly value commodity right now.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 11:56 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Andrus doesn't get traded
unless a top, 3-4+ years of control, young established pitcher (along the lines of Lincecum) is coming back.
Needless to say, those types of pitchers don’t get traded either. So Andrus won’t get traded.
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by JBImaknee on Jul 14, 2009 12:08 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with all that
I’m just saying I’d ask if I were Ricciardi.
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by t ball on Jul 14, 2009 1:58 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, sure.
And if the Giants called I’d ask about Lincecum.
There’s asking about and then there’s asking for.
I think if he speaks with JD he’ll prolly ask about everyone, Hambone and Kinsler included. I can’t see him asking in any seriousness for a package of Andrus + Feliz/Holland. He’s not crazy.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 2:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
You have to think that he really isn't all that anxious to trade him (Halladay)
I’d wager that he is only interested in seeing if someone is willing to overpay egregiously.
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by Brian Thomas on Jul 15, 2009 8:55 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
correct me if I'm wrong
but the only reason I’d want us to trade for Halladay is if we were “one player away.” Does Halladay make this team a serious contender for the WS? I certainly don’t think so and that’s the only reason why I’d trade away our future for a year and a half of him.
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by Bezekira on Jul 14, 2009 11:40 AM CDT reply actions 0 recs
He doesn't even guarantee us a playoff spot this year
He makes us better no doubt but depending on who you give up you may not even make the playoffs with him this year. Next year is next year. he looks to make us better but alot can happen between now and then. Look at Atlanta and the Tex trade. He didn’t get them to the playoffs that first year and they weren’t going to go the next year so Atlanta was forced to trade him off and try and recoup some of what they lost to us.
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by bigsteve on Jul 14, 2009 11:46 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"trade away our future"
You have to define this term. Or you have to let Toronto define it for you.
Obviously there is a “trading away our future” that none of us would do (Smoak/Elvis + Feliz/Holland + Salty/Tea + basket of others)
And there is a “trading away our future” that I would do in a heartbeat (2 of Main/Beavan/Kiker/Ross + Davis + Vallejo/Lemon + basket of smaller others)
At some point, you have to color up your chips, turn your prospects into a real asset. Not all of Main/Beavan/Kiker/Ross/Feliz/Holland/Perez/Ramirez/Boscan/Purke/Scheppers/Wieland/many others I’m missing are going to be on the Rangers pitching staff in 4 years. Many will fail and likely some will have to be traded elsewhere. I guess holding on to all of them and being happy with what they turn out to be stars is one way of going about it. But the more realistic way is to hold onto the ones you have the most hope for and trade away the ones that you believe to be overvalued. Ideally you estimate that correctly. If Halladay can be had for 2-3 of the guys who you are less confident about long term (maybe Toronto is more confident about those particular players), then by all means, go for it.
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by JBImaknee on Jul 14, 2009 12:15 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Very well said.
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by Rodney on Jul 14, 2009 1:00 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
some people worry that teams will ask more from us because of our depth
I see it the opposite way. All JD has to do is contact the Jays and let them know he is very interested, then let all other suitors make their offers, then decide if he wants to beat the best offer or not.
JD doesn’t have to let the Jays dictate what it will take, let the other offers dictate what it will take. If the Angels want Halladay, they can offer the jewels of there system and JD can still beat that offer if he so decides.
A deep system puts JD in the driver’s seat if he plays his cards right.
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by tricer on Jul 14, 2009 1:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Beat the best offer?
I’m not sure that’s how negotiating works. He’s most likely not going to know what the best offer is. Toronto is not going to say “here’s what other teams are offering.” Other teams aren’t going to tell him what they’re offering. How would he know what the best offer consists of?
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by benmor78 on Jul 14, 2009 5:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Angels don't have much to work with
Any deal involving them is invariably going to involve guys like Napoli, Wood, Walden, Reckling, etc.
The Phillies or the Sox could offer more than the Angels without breaking a sweat.
by LiamP on Jul 14, 2009 6:01 PM CDT via mobile up reply actions 0 recs
dont hate on brandon wood
guy is going to be a good player, just needs to get out from under LAofAAAAA
hes better than any of the SS guys they are running out there now. hes going to be a (pretty much) lock to hit 20-25 HR/year, btw, the only SS to hit 23+ HR/year each of the last 3 years is one hanley ramirez.
all of that said, wood, reickling and idk who else would land halladay
wood, reickling, kendrick or sean rodriguez, arredondo, ??? — maybe would get it done if the Jays dont think they can get anything back, but i dont know if that trade makes sense from the angels standpoint as thats their (probable) top SP prospect, their longterm solution at 2b, a good 3b/ss guy and arredondo who has shown a lot of promise in the MLB pen
i just dont know if thats something that they would (could?) consider…
i dont see a package that the angels can offer UNLESS their owner agress to take wells (adding another OF to their already supercrowded OF mixture, and idk if there has ever been a more expensive OF than one of wells, torii hunter, vlad, GMJ with juan rivera as a 5th OF) — which i just dont think they will do
halladay, if traded (and its no more than 50/50 imho), would require more than that offer — if they would do something like the JBI offer above (2 of main/beavan/kiker/ross + davis + middle IF player (vallejo/lemon) + latin arm (non boscan category) i would jump all over it
say its even something like beavan, kiker or main, ross + davis + lemon + melo i dont know who would say no first to that offer…
that said, if its beavan/main, kiker, ross, davis, lemon, melo im doing that in a heartbeat.
but then again does beavan/main, kiker, ross, davis, lemon, melo beat out a kendrick, brandon wood, arredondo, reckling/walden, ???, raw arm offer?
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by knockoutking on Jul 14, 2009 12:38 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Trading for Halladay will not be worth it
If we have to give up any of Andrus/Smoak/Holland/Feliz/Perez., let alone a combination of 2 of those.
I know that Nolan/JD/Hicks will not include any of those players, but it would be make me a lot more comfortable if LSBers would stop discussing the notion as well.
We are in as good a position as you can be in baseball to begin building a dynasty. Making a huge trade just to get bumped early from the playoffs this year would be ridiculous and would contradict everything everyone said about this being the final rebuilding year, etc.
by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 2:06 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Why anyone would assume a Rangers team with Halladay at the helm would just get bumped early in the playoffs is stupid to me.
Assuming Hamilton and Kinsler are anywhere close to “right” going into the series, why would you assume that the Rangers featuring Halladay at the front of their rotation would be an automatic bump in a 5 game series?
Cause they wouldn’t by a long shot.
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by thedirkatron on Jul 14, 2009 2:09 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not automatic by any means
I didn’t say we would absolutely be bumped, but we have won only a single playoff game in history. I would love to get Halladay, but if we traded i.e. Smoak/Feliz for Halladay and we don’t get past the first round, or worst-case-scenario, he gets injured and/or we still miss the playoffs, then the trade could prove detrimental for our franchise.
The way I see it, we probably won’t resign him after the 1.5 years for 100M+. We give up ~ 6 yrs of Feliz AND Smoak for that? That would be idiotic, imho, when we are still in a great position to make the playoffs regardless, and build a ridiculously young and successful roster for cheap, giving us plenty of $ and player flexibility going into the future. Just my thoughts.
by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 2:38 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
How is this relevant?
we have won only a single playoff game in history.
What difference will 1998 make if Halladay takes the mound in a playoff game for the Rangers in 2009?
by nivarsity on Jul 14, 2009 3:33 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It won't make a difference in their performance
it will in my confidence for them
by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 4:17 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dumb
Halladay is probably the best pitcher in the AL, and definitely the best pitcher on a contending team. Having him in the Rangers rotation means that we have more than a puncher’s chance – especially in the best of 5 series.
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by FirebatM3 on Jul 14, 2009 2:13 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
More than a puncher's chance
Agreed. But Halladay, Millwood, Padilla v. CC, Burnett, Pettite/Joba would not exactly make the Rangers favorites. I would loathe to be in a position like Milwaukee where (in 1.5 yrs in this instance) it turns out that the trade was not worth it, when it did not put you over the top. I guess don’t have the confidence in Millwood and Padilla to show up when it counts like some people here do, i guess.
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by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 2:44 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
you're
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I lost my dumb a while back
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work gets in the way occasionally
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by Dirk Diggler on Jul 14, 2009 10:03 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
"a position like Milwaukee"
Actually, I’m pretty sure they’d go back and do the LaPorta for Sabathia trade all over again.
While it is easy for us uber-fans to stay committed to a team through a rebuilding effort, it isn’t that realistic a proposition for a club. They need playoff runs and playoff games to bring cash in – every additional ticket sold through September and into October is a huge marginal benefit to the club. That gives teams the type of financial flexibility that the Rangers desperately would benefit from right now.
Acquiring Sabathia put Milwaukee baseball back on the map. It gave the team national attention, and almost certainly boosted local attention and team revenues considerably. Yeah, they’d make that deal all over again. Even if LaPorta becomes a star.
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by JBImaknee on Jul 14, 2009 2:59 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
good points
use Atlanta as an example, then
by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 4:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's a best of 5.
The Royals could beat the Yankees 1/4 of the time.
The 82-win Cardinals won three short series in 2006.
Complete crapshoot, anything can happen, and having a guy like Halladay (who could pitch about 17 innings in a five-game series) is an enormous asset.
by nivarsity on Jul 14, 2009 3:37 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe I'm crazy
but I think, assuming the bats aren’t in a June Swoon type slump, that this team competes with anyone if it adds an ace and doesn’t subtract an impact starter from the roster.
It obviously depends, on whether this boom or bust offense is booming or busting.
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by DJCahill on Jul 14, 2009 2:18 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not just the offense
But whether the bullpen doesn’t regress to April-form and which Millwood and Padilla show up.
I am incredibly optimistic about the Rangers, but enough to potentially mortgage some of their future for a 32 yr old pitcher at this point.
by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 2:48 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well,
I don’t think it will ever happen, because I don’t think Roy will void his no trade to come here.
However, I think we might be able to sacrifice a high end pitching prospect and not cripple our farm. If Roy agreed to the no-trade, which I doubt he would, we would just have to make a better package than the next team.
When you have Holland/Perez/Feliz/Beavan/Kiker/Main/Wieland/Font/Boscan/Schepper/Purke you obviously have some pitching prospects you can package for a pitcher for now and next year. We can’t possibly fit them all in, and not all can be fit into the rotation.
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by DJCahill on Jul 14, 2009 3:07 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
????
This is a complete straw man argument. No one is suggesting that the Rangers should/would give up two of Andrus/Smoak/Holland/Feliz/Perez.
The beauty of this organization is that there are many valuable players that MAY be able to get the attention of the Jays. Maybe they ask for Feliz or Perez, at which point there will be some soul searching. But to dismiss the possibility out of hand is to just stick your head in the sand and be scared of making any moves for fear of them coming back to haunt you. If that is what you want to do, go be an Angels fan.
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by JBImaknee on Jul 14, 2009 2:41 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hardly dismissed the opportunity completely
I’m all for acquiring Halladay. I suggested it in the off-season for (Davis, Salty, and Beavan, to which people scoffed at). I just don’t think it should be the players I listed above.
by BuckyB on Jul 14, 2009 4:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that package won't get him
You have to give something to get something.
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by boomer1 on Jul 14, 2009 5:11 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wonder
if the fact that we’re dealing with Riccardi have an impact on negotiations. If I remember correctly, JP was not a big fan of our boy JD.
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by FirebatM3 on Jul 14, 2009 2:14 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
Did Jon reallly say that, AYFKM???
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by Rodney on Jul 14, 2009 2:19 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
haha
selective editing
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by FirebatM3 on Jul 14, 2009 2:24 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ah, gotcha.
Although we both know many here think that, I would be surpised for someone to eloquate such.
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by Rodney on Jul 14, 2009 2:31 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Halladay should not be the AL starting pitcher.
Oh wait, this thread is about something else.
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by rooster on Jul 14, 2009 2:22 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
If the Angels get Halladay
they win the World Series.
by Clueless on Jul 14, 2009 3:23 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
just like getting tex helped them win it last year
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 14, 2009 4:43 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tex isn't an Ace Pitcher
Big, big difference.
Add Halladay to the Angel staff, and they are gold.
At least, that’s how I’ll bet it.
by Clueless on Jul 14, 2009 6:22 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
halladay is an excellent player
but i don’t see how adding him guarantees them a ring.
my point is that last year before the deadline the angels had a team that many would have considered better than the team they have now. They added a premium offensive player who shored up their one real weakness, he played brilliantly, and they still got bounced early.
Adding Halladay makes them dangerous, and probably gives them the division. But it doesn’t ameliorate all their issues. They still have a shaky bullpen, they still have an offense that has outperformed and is just begging to start regressing to the mean (they lead the league in BABIP at .322), and they still have a certain Impaler who is neither capable of aping his former self nor capable of staying healthy. Far from what I would call a lock to win it all.
by Smoakin in the Boys Room on Jul 14, 2009 9:12 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points. Not a lock.
But if they get Halladay, that’s how I’m betting.
by Clueless on Jul 14, 2009 9:20 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
No one ever guarantees a ring
this isn’t basketball where one player can single-handedly change a series to being a lock.
All you can do is make the moves that give you a big increase in playoff probability or world series probability. Halladay represents that to both the Angels and the Rangers (since both are hovering between 30% and 50% playoff probability right now – there is a huge margin for improvement there)
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by JBImaknee on Jul 15, 2009 10:33 AM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
to me halladay (if he goes to the rangers or angels)
would propel that team, if healthy, into the playoofs almost no matter what
bump texas or LAAofAAAAAs 5th best starter and add halladay is a HUGE difference if he pitches like he has the last few years
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by knockoutking on Jul 15, 2009 6:35 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree.....
Halladay wins the West for either Texas or LAA…….I also think Halladay, Millwood, Padilla stack up pretty well in a short series……would TT, Crash, Kiker/Beavan do it?
by tklawless on Jul 16, 2009 3:32 PM CDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Rangers...
obviously have the pieces any team would want for a guy like Halladay.
It’s not going to happen though. The Rangers won’t take on his salary right now. Shitty.
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by slc ranger on Jul 14, 2009 5:36 PM CDT reply actions 0 recs
WTH wants Halladay? Not me!
Did you see him tonight? No thanks.
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